in the modern age of twenty tens of thousands of volunteers from fifty three countries went to fight british and american backed fascists in spain the volunteers from britain in the international regather were monitored by the defacto pro franco u.k. spy agency m i five which was supposed to be neutral they were members of the communist party and at that time that was seen by much of the establishment as the main threat to be concerned about. and my five were charged with keeping tabs on anybody really that was a communist and once the spanish civil war broke out obviously they were very concerned because they were stoned simply being neutral they want they were very concerned these people might go to spain and fight for the public weapon sales from now nato nations would lead to the failure of the international brigades to win against spain's fascists and the defeat is seen by some as the precursor to tens of millions dying in world war two and the holocaust but this week catalonia is again fighting in spain backed by european powers today's democratic session of the catalan parliament has been blocked by the so-called socialist party of spain

arguably a blairite new liberal party focused on preventing catalan independence this is difficult of the burning of democracy today in spain was not lost on financial t.v. channels we're even dependents movements opposed to the neoliberal order just talk to us about the significance of this for those not accustomed to spanish politics like you south what this really means for the current debate that's right this is the crucial development of workers get and if you're a member the referendum happened and gave according to the cattle and regional administration the mandate to enact a law that would create a republic within forty eight hours however that we don't present can not do it it's got to be to parliament. so basically what we're getting here is that monday dispassion that was not going to happen so again if they were empowered to enact that they just simply can't well joining me now is the shadow defense spokesperson another independence movement the scottish national party douglas chapman has just been to catalonia and he's speaking to us from his buddies on your wall to wall

coverage ahead of his leader nicholas sturgeon speech in glasgow tomorrow thanks so much douglas recovering on the show disturbing trip with the shadow justice spokesperson joined cherie to monitor the intimidation going on in spain. well it certainly was when they were apart from seventeen nations delegation to catalonia to what this will actually happen during that the referendum process and obviously some of the scenes that it's all your viewers already picked up on were absolutely disgusting in terms of the level of violence used by the state police but obviously been under political orders from don't get it surprise you and your fellow delegates that there wasn't something sooner from the european commission or the european presidency or any other european union institution to condemn what the nine hundred about the injured noel that as you say a huge number of people who were injured and you know very upset by the experience

that they had it's quite clear that we expected the european commission to condemn the violence and you know why we realize that and recognize that spain is the member states of the e.u. the people of kashmir and also have the right of self determination and we thought that maybe naively that the affair stepped in to support their cause now some people might think it's a long shot he had to compare these things but cost of zero did have a referendum and e.u. and nato forces came to the rescue of course of against yugoslavia why isn't nato bombing madrid. well. you know the position i think is completely different but the why would say is that under no circumstances should people who are going to be a natural business of voting for the future of their own country should be

subjected to violence in this way this can be a peaceful process if people in the table wanted to be a peaceful process but at the moment their only seems to be one one party who are interested in conducting the in a peaceful way and scimitar seem to be the chairman that you know they will not lose catalonia at any cost we will wait and see what happens you know over the next few days do you detect from even catalans who oppose independence that the sight of these hundreds of people being injured and police spanish national police taking away ballot boxes was meant as a lesson to people right across europe and they better not seek autonomy. well. i mean the madrid did use the word disobedience and their early statements. but what the actions don't have was. a real sense that people want to

go out and vote so whatever tactics majid used mostly by fire in the day and a lot of people who probably were on the ball at one way or the other and independents . voted because they felt that there was a. will need to show but that you know they wanted to vote you see over the united states mainstream media like the amazon washington post characterizes this whole situation in spain this way it says the only people that are even supporting these kinds of movements are the separatist groups scotland the pariah state of venezuela and that russia and its intelligence agencies and russian propaganda services well again the catalan government major commitment to the people that would have a referendum on the first of october the people who were in the region camaron voted to determine their own self-determination but all in the future for their own country and it was quite clear that stage that you know that process

should be going to hate unhindered and you know people have their own take on who the see things in the region what's the thing that difference things into this but this is a very simple process it was a vote the saving. anita's future country's future and that's why it was all a vote and quite honestly violence of that each of the written test on sunday is not part of that process at all and just finally presumably there will be lots of activists at the conference in glasgow wanting a second referendum or at least trying to catalyze the conditions for a second referendum will the catalonia of inspired them. well you know every time we have a conference the issue of independence runs like a golden thread that runs through everything that we do. whether that we. call getting our conference for another referendum at this stage is the beatable but i think what will happen is that it will be strong condemnation of the actions of of

majed and the violence the used in the process and i think will also be a call for peace and mediation between the two parties with catalonia and spain to see if a sensible range meant and a new sheets arrangement can be a writer but what's happened thank you. thank you. well hollywood have its committees to defend catalonia from fascism in the one nine hundred thirty s. the revival of stephen sondheim's follies playing in london till january reminds packed audiences of our femoral not only showbiz stars can be but their audiences to release between the wars joining me now is one of the stars of the musical follies just before this production she toured the world from britain to broadway and beyond with the end of the rainbow about the tragic last days of i call judy garland with me is a multi olivier award winning actor tracy bennett who sings the song i'm still here a radical denunciation of political witch hunts in the usa tracy thanks for coming

on going to go before we get to the torch song i'm still here what got you interested in the revival of the original one act version of follies and i want to get in the n.t. live because we're filming it live which is really scary but in theater that is live but there's a different element with cameras and that's an event with a thick stink so we've got all the cameras in and then it's going to be brought and then it's going to be broadcast in new york in london in britain all over the world globally on november the sixteenth and i've been lucky recently terry johnson directing me and. and the national theater there's to love that as a cause so much of it is being destroyed for crossrail you know you two are the world you see gentrification all the time but in the plot of this musical it's too late for the it's too late but sometimes you would fall the million eighteen to.

thirty eight year that's when i was a young folly and i'm a very old folly but i think in the end it was called the massacre of broadway i think where they just ripped five major theaters down so yes this is in one nine hundred seventy warm and they're turning it into a office block an office block which of course is happening everywhere your character. is very different dog breeder all the other characters who is a carlotta can be a cold lotto come to him she was a folly girl. chorus she had a number which was caught so she's obviously like mediocre but she had something and she was picked out from the chorus to be a movie star so she then went off to l.a. and became this big movie star a new you've. not been a big loss in the race to be you have got in trouble for communism or the j. edgar hoover little and president hoover my character has been accused of being a commie. which upset or obviously and she just got drunk by

a pool to get over because it destroyed people's lives. in every single way and careers they just they just were dead after that but i don't know whether you know this but donald trump tweeted that he loves judy garland it was judy garland who said defended actors and said. this is show business and resented the ideas of people in show business being accused of being an american but bogart and they were long because they were left of it if you like in their terms. socialist but then that's very confusing with communism and then but do you think donald trump's or you in clearly did clearly there is going to pull me in i'll be working but i don't know you don't know because it gives a lot of data out against current show business stars because of course hollywood

is known as being pretty empty term and said it's not the same judy garland was a real star controversial comment there all stars it depends what you like isn't it box office leave the star whoever make the money trump has proposed massive cuts to the arts we've seen lots of cuts here to. everybody really smaller theaters music lessons well i mean that was you already what would you say to people to say well we money is a lot of the bankers rather than fear for what well in my simplistic terms think about a world with none of it. no music no radio no movies no operas new musical theater no plate no theater whatsoever won't think of a world without law you can't go in you can't put the radio or there's nothing. there it's it's ridiculous not to from la and they go to see those shows who just find the europeans over there was watch t.v. of all time in this country what why do you think in this age of into the draw way

things on you tube so were the whole of britain to be morning liz door new play very dark within coronation street or because it's a human being thing coronation street is the star of course but these strong women in the street is known for that and peter wally and john in the day used to write magnificent comedy pathos and if you could do comedy on paper offs they would write even more for you and that's the store of the working class of britain which is our heritage in part and so very dig up to the imagination because oh it's funny that we're lation shit you know this is it. was genius really and they could do it and so or go by liz last year. it will never be another you can't have another view and awkward you can't another old wrong you know i'm saying there's always a first of its type and so they will always be remembered as part of our heritage

culture wise traceability thank you. after the break how does the shape of us speak to billions around the world fifty years to the day that u.s. backed forces killed and we go to argentina just speak of che guevara's brother one much needed all the civil coming up in part two of going underground. and you know in the years yeah you know until you go into there's roads are also the you know mr wilson exposed. to go in and other things are through that into internment do that then. you have. to go to war if you're well you know you really do believe all of these blows the glad i wish had

gone but not the number the ones who nobody could take on. the air or got up out of the wind and as you know i can recall in the state of new year and he's not a bird he stumbled out of the room to shoot me in the movies. music is always. going. to be a. few will become worthless. welcome

back its fifty years today since the cia backed assassination of che guevara but you wouldn't know it from demonstrations by the ninety nine percent that continue all around the world to use his image as inspiration for working people of all countries che said as much when he's reputed to have stand his assassin in the face to tell him to shoot because he was only killing a man the implication being that it was impossible to kill his vision for international communism here he is in algeria as the united states was killing maybe up to four million civilians in vietnam giving one of his last speeches before he left to catalyze revolution in bolivia. but i don't really. think you know what it will be a. better world really and i don't think we're ever. there

ever be in america. i don't think we're ever been already of but at least you have your number a little bit out of that but i'm going to i'm really. sorry for the. fact that you know everything about delhi belly. and whatever other. than. a. very private sector had already started off. well joining us now from logic time capital one osiris is one martine who have a brother who's memoir che my brother brings the legendary revolutionary back to life thanks so much my team for coming on the show daughter later was on this program and said health care was

a human right what do you think she would say about cuban doctors now helping islands affected by climate change and the hurricanes. more let me say that well human medicine has advanced incredibly in the years since shade left in one thousand sixty five and he would be amazed by the level of competence and solidarity presents black dots today. i mean that's really there. and before we get to your brother in more detail you are in a way a live accidentally because of something that mrs thatcher did here in britain by recapturing the male venus that's why you're in their way alive to have to have written this book. well it's very hard to say why i'm alive since many of my comrades militants have lost their lives sometimes i think it's up to chance all the times i think it might have been some

other kind of employer and. in reality i can't tell you with certainty what is the reason i am alive. and tell me about how the u.s. backed. dictatorship affected your family won't leave. it up by. well there have been different stages of dictatorship in argentina we've never had a truly open democracy or if we date it was very short lived you must be referring to the. ship of one thousand nine hundred six when the de la and viola were in power the outcome of it was i spent eight years in jail. thirty thousand deaths policy tossed ten thousand tortured in jail because a social breakdown. but he saw we thought of. you enough like border and then after the beginning of the pink tide we saw the kirshner's run.

in your book you say there is no street still in the city or in going to fire is named after your brother che already. i think is more recognized and accepted outside of argentina it's clear it's because both his character and beliefs are considered to be dangerous so it's best to hide in a cult. in other places as well they've tried for many years to hide his and especially his ideas. and you know he showed it also paints i mean even today. yes of course for example not long ago they tried to name a school a nest of our hero. but the commission which reviews these projects before they became legislation had a very negative response to that is for a reason he's

a contentious carrots influences young people which is bad for the government don't know it would operate at all what do you think your mother would think of that in twenty seventeen it's clear in the book that she's a huge influence and she in a way to which you and your brother to be political. but not only. that it. well people think my mother was the only one who influenced by i don't think it was not only her but rather the whole family i think any of the members of the family were also interested in politics of course it was also the context in which we lived what would my mother say well she was a militant like myself and she would always support shay's beliefs your bits i mean that you and your mother went to jail as well.

yes she was in jail that's what we call it dictates the soft dictatorship after from d.c. resigned after he was removed from government came to power that's when my mother returned from keep i was accused of conspiring against the government i was sent to a woman's jail for a few months after that she would turn to produce and would you say that your childhood was bohemian rather than rich. when i really had no no. well in reality i can't really call it by he mean because people always said our family was well off our socratic. however that's not how it was we've had a tough life with very few material possibility at least in my experience so we want exactly me and my background was straight small town people and of course

education because i get an education i was the only one of my brothers he didn't go to university. i finished school but nothing more. while che finished is medical studies he would tease you or relatives your grandmother signing letters off with your coffee in this round. i mean yes we had everyone in my family for instance there were members of the military. community. and once when he was already a famous commanding keep i remember her saying i don't know why people. is a communist he's such a good boy. now. you know we we know the name chiquita fruit label it was once the united fruit

what did united fruit in guatemala mean to change of our development well you know. this. well. it's a before and after that's where he really starts to come to life as a revolutionary willing to take up fight against north american imperialism which was hiding behind united fruit. when people started to criticize. him and his fights and the leaving the family home whether it was on the famous motorcycle diaries time whether it was their model or whether it was to even to miami in florida. you could part of that was whenever he'd come back ever since he was a kid he'd gone adventures with one of his cousins. after he rode four thousand five hundred kilometers on his motorbike while he was studying medicine he watched as a nurse on oil tanker after again he traveled on his motorbike to chile he

hitchhiked another gates it on a graph. eventually here brought united states in his last trip he went through and probably got to keep he really was the biggest child in our family. who were there where it meant there might be a few do it or not. but it seems so many times the newspapers reported that your brother had died how did the family cope with this it was presumably propagand deliberately trying to. and the name to give a how did the family cope with these many times it was reported in every way to know this this whom one of. mine who are well first news of his death came out when he writes keep on the grandma after they've said so many times that the guerrilla fighters had died and amongst them the argentinian doctor but he wasn't sure yet he

was and. since he became shea a much has been say especially after nine hundred sixty five when he left the government and parted from peter there was constant news about him being dead or being in one place or another we always heard things that were quite sad. and then fidel castro secretly invited you and your mother to have her know when. the. revolutionaries and. the cuban capital. know if we're going to be don't show up if you know more yes in reality he didn't exactly invite the bloody battista dictatorship which had left many people in exile cross latin america so the government chartered an airplane to take them back. on the plane as fidel had delegated to him the task of bringing. in exile in argentina venezuela

and ecuador. and then what did it feel like you i think you were fifteen years old seeing your brother now the. politician the head of the central bank of cuba. yes when we arrived to havana in one thousand nine hundred fifty nine it was ten days off because he had left the government so it was very recent at that point cuba was mobilized and. of course having left. because to my parents he was. tiny and i started. having left. a meeting with. a very strong experience i'd say it was shocking and i still remember the moment when him. and spent a couple of minutes hugging. and what did you feel when you heard about the cia backed assassination of your brother. well. it wasn't the

cia the cia ordered it but it was the believing army that execute the assassination . was in charge. it was the army general in bolivia the cia was directing it it was the believe in me to actually carried it out we only learned about it lights because what was being said at the time was that he died in combat and not assassinated you know where does it make any difference today the do. trump is trying to tear up the obama deal on cuba. in reality has many problems some more serious than there are one hundred twenty flights from the united states to keep. it used to be twenty five now it's one hundred twenty five so no one has been cancelled. it's more. relevant. to show up things and finally you're right about this in the book what does it what

did it feel like his brother to see him in an advertisement from a say. in advertisement that might have been in on walls in miami in cuba. well. this capsule a system in which everything can be turned into profit there will always be a good entrepreneur find a good product. is a good product which is why they used him. on my idea of i thank you and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday for the first. flight by the u.k. usa aerospace. media say forty five years to the day that race riots broke out on the u.s. warships stationed off the coast of vietnam where the usa would kill displace tens of millions of.

this. economy is built around. business to. business. it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before. europe has to either change or cease to exist so people who work in this building the headquarters should change the rules of the european union would have to work on fewer issues both with better results it should be paying more attention to protecting external borders fighting against terrorists curbing illegal immigration as well as harmonizing economic policies and judicial systems otherwise the europe we have today is dual would transformed into

a strange loose community of twenty seven countries with nothing in common. the city of luxury and free but also an alarming number of people living in the streets. simple fact in l.a. he's there's just not enough shelter even if people on the streets right now decided to come in there's nowhere to come in and it's been a struggle. to get this man from his own response to the problem and constructed dozens of tiny homes for people in need of shelter when you have nothing in order to go. you know having something like this may as well be a castle but do the authorities accept such. tiny house on a. parking space is not a solution. to someone wanted touring the site otherwise it will be a free for all there are

a better alternative to end the homeless crisis. headlines on our international in syria the battle for survival continues despite. all the program here we speak to two girls who have lost everything in this war. hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets of boston in a show of support for spanish unity speculation the president could soon declare independence in a speech to parliament potentially on tuesday.