tv Cross Talk RT October 9, 2017 11:29am-12:01pm EDT
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giago artie will have that with lol at the top of the hour. here's what people have been saying about rejecting the night with the sixty just full on awesome well the only show i go out of my way to launch it was still really packed a punch to sleep yeah mr john oliver a hearty america is doing the same we are apparently better than food nothing's better see people you've never heard of love back to the night not the president of the world bank so take. me seriously send us an e-mail.
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i'm always gives yeah you know until you tell it to her shows or the you know mr milosevic goals you. know he's never been so good in the term of the that. you have. to go to war if you're. just to believe all this plus the glad i wish i'd got. the number one seems like a come on. to it or got up out of the mind i'm going to clean the state out yet and he's not a boy he stumbled out of the room the truth. has. become more please.
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europe has to either change or cease to exist people who work in this building the e.u. headquarters should change the rules of the european union would have to work on fewer issues with better results should be paying more attention to protecting external borders fighting against curbing illegal immigration as well as harmonizing economic policies and judicial systems otherwise the europe we have today is duly were transformed into a strange loose community of twenty seven countries with nothing in common. hello and welcome to cross talk or all things considered i'm peter lavelle russia gate continues unabated without any hard facts to back it up will catalonia take
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the next step and declare independence also will trump be called a deal breaker when it comes to a red. cross talking real news i'm joined by my guests here in moscow exactly a morrow he's the founder founder of the center for political strategic analysis struck paul we also drew levitch he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and of course we have dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst with international right gentlemen cross-talk rules and effect that means you can jump in anytime and and i always appreciate gentlemen the senate foreign intelligence committee came out big press conference. no evidence of the trump campaigning campaign colluding with the russians in the two thousand and sixteen presidential election but that's not going to stop them there are going to continue we also have twitter google and facebook coming up with their number
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crunching scant evidence at best in meaning even less ok nonetheless where you work where i work sitting in this chair. freedom of speech in the united states is under threat scrutiny can r t are being threatened it's amazing we're kingmakers actually you know it's amazing what one hundred thousand dollars can buy for you in the united states you can buy the presidency for one hundred thousand dollars now to remind me all of you know austin bolus you know same we're going to require from you one million dollars so vote for one hundred thousand dollars you're going to buy american election but you know taking things seriously they. foreign agents registration act to media to media in general is astounding because for five years the u.s. media and the media of the european union have been the one blasting the russian government you know and the russian duma for introducing. the wall into the russian
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legislation well the russian the russian government never targeted media organizations based on that the war there were problems with organizations that morning at that elections or n.g.o.s geos and forces you know to mourn and to them in their only interest there were problems with companies that were accused of supporting supporting terrorist supporting. midterms but new york the single dime they did i really didn't really want to really get into the foreign agents acting united states foreign the russian equant is essentially a translation it's broadly the same thing here gentlemen we've talked a lot about russia gate no evidence for me it's laboring over it because why talk about something when there's no facts but i think what's really picture if i go to you here and what i think is in play is something much bigger and i think
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much more nefarious you use the alleged collusion you bring in the russians you bring in our t. bring in sputnik but what this is. leading to the rabbit hole they want to go down is attacking the internet and freedom of speech and they're taking it all together it's a new matrix right now i'm very worried about the future of freedom of speech because the five near monopoly companies media companies united states with the on wall street journal the washington post there with the rest of them c.n.n. they want their monopoly back and you know what with the political force behind them in washington they might get some success in that area i'm very worried about and they really aren't see sputnik are just the beginning because if you look at the big picture until now you can go to you could see here now you could see you are going to you could see other channels radio stations broadcasting in the u.s. you could see which a new station you could see here or if number of other foreign broadcasters now if
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this if the american government succeeds with their attempt to shut down our sputnik in the united states what are they going to be tempted to do next if our if washington if the washington establishment decides that oh that cheney is. the story of the year telling the american people the news that they're broadcasting be there and that that kind of union you know what are we going to do next we're going to shut down then that it's a patriotism. litmus test right now if you're willing to toe the line here i mean one of the things i've noticed growing up as an american in america. there's never any foreign media around you know there's a lot of foreign media because i would say is because the meat in the. media monopolies that are existing and right now people don't trust them that's why they're going somewhere else again i will ask the question of our viewers write to
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me if you've ever been forced to click on an r t one click please i'd like to know those circumstances that's. the point because it's impossible to shut down internet so even if they want to shut down on sputnik it will be possible to go around. to to get to get internet to get ati on these close you down then it will be an addition to be a trader on the contrary in my opinion it's counterproductive because it is a do that they will grant that they would grant. rebellion turn over so and any of you were cities and could see could look at all it is through internet and the problem is in my opinion it is didn't the truth as long as five this is big prize want as a truce people are going to go through internet and i hope they will find ati but they can't find ours were stupid
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a complete is to. tunnel or a website that's in my opinion is really contra productive because you know a good the double standard in the contradiction here to both of you is that what happened to the marketplace of ideas this is what it really gets down to feel shows how scared they are of the american people getting news for alternative sources they want to determine what picture the american people the american audience gets on every single issue whether it's politics whether it's culture or it's international affairs and they are really scared that the american people are getting something different something they do not want them to see something they do not want them to hear and they're willing to go to this length right to really suppress press freedom in a very open virt way to do not allow the american people to see
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a different story in the bonus for these same people as they get rid of trouble. i think will look at history. wherever you put it there was always a breakdown there was always a different reason why the minister of the not sorry to all just collapsed was because the whole place in a corner me in the media even in the military sphere you know. now ultra liberalism is basically going the same way they are establishing monopolies in in science where you have to speak these in language you know otherwise you cannot be a scientist you are not a scientist anymore there establish a monopoly in the media very soon there will establish also an economy we're seeing all signs of that and therefore lead to the collapse but one of the problems with monopoly if you could take the soviet union for example is that when you have a monopoly of information what you do is you close yourself off to dissident
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information contrary information and then you live in a loop and you don't understand the condition of the say because this is you know one of the things that when we look at the tragic event victor with a tragic event in las vegas they're going to learn to read them to learn to hear the plethora of conspiracy theories you know why because there is now an intense distrust of the mainstream media they're not getting the truth exactly that the basically the american people have lost trust in the american media in their mainstream media and that's why every single time there is a sensational you want the american people view it is almost a new j.f.k. shooting where right where they are being lied to about genesis of the event about what happened who is behind it so there. he is he shows the lack of trust and particularly you can people can only when you are in the same applies to europe when you're told about what your condition really is and people look around and say
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that's not much condition ok i mean what you're telling me and it's untrue and this is what adds another layer to all of this is because like i was. said the media in the political stablish we are living in this loop and it's really neat luzhin because a lot of people look around and say this isn't my reality that you're telling me it is and for instance if you take. what the u.s. may just talking about. the situation in russia in the in one year you will be many supporters coming from all the countries in the world and they will see what is most kono for instance and so this is the reason why i think it won't work it would be a shame for us it isn't of course but it won't work you can for instance in new ukraine's or try to block. twenty four ok so even on the ground those are the grandfather the know how to get through to v.p.n. to twenty four on the internet so in my opinion last movement of
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this period. we're going to write a thing as they have for that to happen deem is that i think you are going to have to see the break up of the near monopoly of like google for example and facebook because they're in cahoots with this all along and he doesn't fly promotion to silicon valley and say i need numbers i need names ok and that's exactly what we saw happen to facebook you're right there and there but the story with facebook reminds me all of that story between william and he is illustrated in cuba you give me the pictures i give you of the war you know i think it's largely symbolic people has always got these great you know. what it's very symbolic what happened in ukraine they're now boycie and russian television and radio using that all soviet german. and some of them have been you know have been dismantled beyond repair so the ukrainian government is now well maintained this fact you know these excellent machines we have them but i would go further you know we have to get i think more
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ubiquitous that would have. well it's too bad there are no v.p.n. in the soviet. but find a way to walk the most but i think it's more than just fake it's also fake science because when you have a monopoly of a certain ideology in science in the soviet union there will scientific community as well the whole science you would become a doctor of scientific community the probable so that no one so-called scientific woman who the works you know. the same story you know what nation is going to be a little bit beyond just that is that you know the last place i want to see we have nation building here was that is right here not to our show for it will continue our discussion on some real news state but are seeing.
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what politicians do something. they put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. some want to be preached. to going to be this is what the three of them will be good. i'm interested always in the waters about how. to. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to
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remind you discussing some real names. ok examine this go to catalonia i mean we have the crisis of legitimacy crisis of optics crisis politics crisis the identity. in brussels never helps. where is this going because it seems like after the un mandated illegal so what it is referendum that was held that we could go the ensuing violence was absolutely unnecessary the optics for the madrid government was awful for a great deal of the bureaucracy in brussels at the optics were all for. have the catalans in madrid and brussels boxed themselves into corners now i think you're. quite optimistic for this crisis because the result of the recount though is not
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good because it was for the position we didn't come so it's because it's what it wasn't illegal so they didn't come for their position and. we voted for the independence so it's not in us you can start an independence process was only fifty percent of the pushing with you you know if so you know we grew out of that is i think is really into and i said this earlier on crossfire when we did a program on it is that the referendum process was illegal under the spanish constitution however it did happen and i think i would think what's the most regrettable thing is it didn't lead that made that they should have allowed people to vote because exactly it is absolutely right is that we there is a significant it least minority maybe maybe it's closer to i would like to know what their opinion is in two thousand and fifteen there were some original election and loyalist ones this election so i couldn't agree more that they could have tried this is again like forced regime change this is what i see happening look there are
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a number of aspects so forty two percent voted of the population of catalonia voted in this referendum. ninety percent already to perseus ninety percent of the forty two percent voted for independence but one has to look at the fact that we need polling stations were full forcibly shut down by the spanish police and it wasn't just a few it was almost half and if you consider the fact that almost half were shut down and people are now allowed to vote and also the fact that the referendum was. billed as ego which also the people didn't want to go and have fights with police to get in one can think about how it would have going to feel for these people went in so the spanish government made a few mistakes first of all threatening catalonia with taking away its autonomy in response to this or fandom is not where
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a sting was not the way to know how to play smart mean or threatening to arrest seven hundred mayors referring to the british it shows how scared they were but there's another aspect to this look at the double standards of the european union course of all look at what happened in kosovo where where there was no reference to a friend whom there was you know really there was no equipment from the government in belgrade and no dialogue no dialogue and the e.u. in the us just forced course it was independence and then recognized corso as an independent state so what what do we see here a completely clear double standard where in those countries that the west european union brussels and washington want to destroy the countries they want to weaken they recognize but but the in catalonia know if interesting dana you know one man one vote wants ok and this is what's happening within the european union the way i see it i think the european union has handled it very badly but that's what they
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usually do well i would say that the reaction of the russian government was quite right you know we do not decide the. the spaniards and the could to win the ns have to decide it themselves no one can decide it better than them selves but there is an actor in this game which is important that is the european union and russia is not true to that because the european union is lead an economic war against russia much more than the united states the european union was one hundred billion dollars in that war according to un estimates russia was fifty five billion dollars so the way they handled the whole situation is terrible because they promised they have. a future europe will be like to still be cured and you can you hear people you know forget about ethnic issues national issues thanks to the european union everyone is going to be happy there didn't happen now they don't even apologize they don't they didn't do a single effort to mediate between this place you think you know and i'm glad you
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said that because i've seen the scene the future in its field here exactly does that mean you don't you think that you know what happened here is that brussels has proven itself not to be an honest broker and i think this is. evidently it's evident for everyone involved in my opinions i don't know what to do because on one side spain is a. member of the union so it's a start to organize separatism inside the spain what we think all the other country and there is many in europe where there is some territory you know weeks before we expect relations so. and you know it was a science that's what they want because the europe. it's a dream no money just region so there are better than in the choice but in my opinion they will because of what happened in ukraine because of what happened. in anyone prefer to deal with what the new with with the know and with the know it's
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nation so in my opinion your permission but it's like full circle we knew that in the beginning you know we do that the list or if you remember when we went. at the time when that there was a reference it was a referendum in england the european union supported london and saw. the referendum was won by the royalist and in my opinion it would be more modern as a same i couldn't agree more that. spanish government handled it yes but as a side again we don't know which was up and but the fact is in two thousand and fifteen there was some local election and the year just one so. i want to talk about the calm before the storm one more comment one should come here so camp and when they are afraid and when the british voted for it if you member what brussels they said oh well even leaving the you there for scotland we leave you key to join the
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e.u. and i now then i do not know they are playing the opposite paid leave you think oh do you want to leave spleen then we want to have you join the e.u. but you are going to be. sold to the scottish people when you were still a member because when they refer them. scotland was still a member. of the opinion so there's a message from the european was very clear if you leave it you will leave us with the european union. i didn't conquer. this is a spanish government no and it's in my opinion it's more clever it's a. transfer of the banks of the business from other to if you're going to need somebody hit there. because. independence independent is what they want is. it not i don't want. to pay
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any more i think. the wanted a better deal for madrid and they got what they wish for and we want to talk about . within a week or so adult trump will give us his decision rather to decertify of iran nuclear deal he told us the calm before the storm here it's it's interesting just to be around the president is ok was it in their opinion it wasn't the greatest deal but it's a deal nonetheless i think it's the only foreign policy achievement of the obama administration maybe that's exactly why he wants to tear it down because it's an obama agreement is that what's in play here well i mean to get in there with obama trump has messed up everything you know is it to think that the obama did probably partially right the improvement of relations with cuba and the reigning deal drom present won't go on do it completely in the rudest possible to you know they're
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equal fifteen american diplomats from cuba because they've had some acoustic problems so i think there will. be a lot of people blame that on russia if you go to social media but well i mean we always get in your model even in the new york seat there might say that he is under . twenty four hours. you know what's in play here because i mean it's an international agreement and the only concedes it downside for the u.s. these are v. north korea you know there was koreans are saying aha see you can keep your side of the agreement the if you like it or not the iran nuclear deal was probably the most important nonproliferation deal ever made under that regime and frankly these words and actions put on further at least surprising part of his presidency so far because again if you listened to hear him speak before the election campaign during the election campaign after the election campaign he has. again and again stated
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his dislike for the year on d.v.d. from if we just push why he never give us the details why that's a bad reason. there are several reasons one of these in is that. it's pianist the tampa new station is very closely allied with these really lobby and his son in law is very closely aligned with the israel lobby and of course israel has been pushing for this against the iran deal ever since it was in the works for oprah dress the united nations general assembly i have the distinct feeling that that part was written by bibi netanyahu he was certainly he was certainly the only one who was through we had had i was already your dear yes so that's one reason there's another reason. you know the national security establishment has been picked by top whether it's mike bumpy or the kind of the cia and there are rumors now that he may be policing tillerson in the next few months at the. state department and whether
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it's james mattis the kind of the pentagon some others even some of those who are we should be seeing let's not get out there right away but every almost every single member of the national security team is. you know as soon as that not necessarily but not necessarily against this deal the want they want to do. you know difference between them is not so much that they're not against this deal or for it but how to get out of it he is somebody who is pretty straightforward he wants to just live with what he was going to bring out and i mean but essentially what i think is going to happen it will unfold over the next week is that he's going to try to find a way to make the uranium walk away from the agreement which will be very hard to do you may through congress you may not get what he hopes for will definitely be talking about this topic next week gentlemen many thanks to my guest here in moscow and thanks to your viewers for watching us here are to see you next time remember
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crosstalk. europe has to either change or cease to exist people who work in this building you have quarters should change the world cup the european union would have to work on fewer issues both with better results we should be paying more attention to protecting external borders fighting against terrorists curbing illegal immigration as well as harmonizing economic policies and judicial systems otherwise the europe we have today is doing will transformed into a strange loose community of twenty seven countries with nothing in common. and you know when there's no you know until you go into the job for us.
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