this is an incredibly tense situation. from. on larry king down mountain joe mall warner it's not always about that particular job it's really an opportunity just to kind of show you and he made i get that job but he made me two different people versus o.j. i actually read for chris darden as an actor and as a director i have the same sensibilities therefore i fight scenes or the battles of the politics the music and the portions. of creative expression that i really. plus a deal of this says that she was the toughest. has this been difficult yet.

because we watch someone who you know love comes through what he's gone through it's difficult not to. you know not to feel it's all next on larry king. welcome to larry king our special guest is malcolm jo mall water the emmy nominated grammy winning actor director musician and poet he's known for malcolm and eddie the cars we show and more recently suits major crimes in american crime story and something we appeared in together the people versus o.j. simpson on the only one that will play himself malcolm stars in ten days in the valley of premier as october first on a.b.c. the titles intriguing snot about a musician. about battle and that's where they are. what is ted days in the valley

it's a. i'd say a suspense. thriller care where it's at cedric plays a and executive producer of a cop show and she gets a lot. her information from a consultant who was giving her very real stories of policed corruption and she is putting those very real stories in this cop show. her daughter goes missing her seven year old daughter and she needs the cops to help her find her daughter so there's a you know a fine line the siesta navigate between getting her art out and you know getting. the help she needs from the cops as she continued to work while the daughter was missing. if i told you that i'll tell you part of the play i'm actually the cold

executive producer of the cop show and you know one of the things about really this show all of the characters are suspect i mean really i know a.b.c. already has a show called secrets and lies but this show after having watched the episode this show could very well because secrets and lies too because every character yourself yeah yeah oh well if it's so if it's a big hit could it run for four years girl become eleven i'm not sure i'm not sure where they would go in the second season but i know they've already thought about it so i'm sure if we did pick. you know they were you got a good to get the part audition and it's interesting because i. i auditioned for another role. that obviously with someone else. and they based on that work and i got a call back to you know to read for this character and one of the things i talk

about to actors all the time about the audition process is you know it's not always about that particular job that you think you're going in to audition for it's really you know it's really an opportunity to. to kind of show you and you know you made i get that job but it may lead to a different job people versus o.j. i talk about that experience all the time because i actually read for chris darden and it was probably one of the best auditions that i had ever ever had got wonderful feedback from casting and then months went by and i didn't hear anything because obviously they found someone who was a much better chris darden but i just forgot about in the couple months later i got a call from one murphy's office and they offered me the part of o.j. and i just always used those two shows as examples about actors tend to get so caught up in the experience are they so want to book this show a.c.

cowlings yet yeah how many scenes are there. it was it was yeah the bronco chase we actually shot over the course of the weekend we actually shut down part of the sevens and free wifi. you got a three month old four months just one month does that affect this show affect you i think when we were shooting the show it did not affect me as much because it was shooting and my daughter hadn't been born yet but now having you know a screen that the to an episode it definitely strikes me. it hits me a little different you know actually having a living daughter and just the you know the bond in the the sense of responsibility that you have for this this being and about much of my daughter's four months so you know at seven years old i'm sure it's a whole nother experience it's got to be the worst it's yeah yeah and killer does

a really wonderful job. with taking you through the journey of this woman who also has so many secrets and lies if you will really like as an as an audience as using a parrot get divorced but as a viewer you know you want to root for her. you know because one in front of daughter but then there are other times where you struggle to root for. she does a really wonderful job writing that as kevin bacon come to the set he's been there a couple times. yeah you direct to yes have you directed any of this no no i haven't. you haven't i haven't directed in the last couple of years the music and the poetry was. you know an avenue of creative expression that i really needed. and because as an actor and as

a director i have the same sensibilities therefore i fight the same integrity battles and politics i got to a point where i realize that because i was having them in both of my careers i needed to kind of fall back from the directing so i could express myself in a way that i can't necessarily do as an actor or as a director why is it ten days in the valley the show takes place over the course of ten days so each episode is a day so then it can't run two years and i'm sure they figured out a way. i'm bothered live or get out of what i don't kill off as i want to the girls found out the mother goes well you know. he know his i'd say something that is interesting by. by the third say you know early on and it's great that you can find out this big question but you're still so

engaged with the series that answering this big question early on. actually it makes you more involved in the rest of illinois you're really tricking me yeah it's a legitimate question would be who took our right to say i find that out in the third episode as so goes on. all boy. did you know a.c. cowlings no i do not know him not never got a chance to even talk to him while we were preparing for the road doing that scene in the bronco how is it constructed was that a difficult shoot. a lot of dialogue and yet it was difficult in that you've got this intense emotion this intense emotional scene that took we we shot over the course of a week and we shut down the seventeen freeway so for two days we are in this you know this high emotional place in this bronco cuba is a really was

a funny guy all so if you're going to be stuck in the truck with somebody he's one of the guys you want to be stuck with it very well you both did very well thank you does a great show they did such a wonderful job with this series and i think it's funny because i like everyone else when you first heard that they were doing this people versus o.j. the first respect reaction is why and then when you see it all put together and you get the vision my director was hemingway your director was murphy ryan and i work with are it with anthony hemingway as well did you come away with any new perspectives. cannot really. i if anything i came away with. you know at least what i feel a deeper understanding of friendship and you know a.c. putting his his neck on the line for his best friend you also did american horror story with murphy what makes murphy great there's a there's

a quirkiness to his storytelling style that it's just it's always in gauging a deal. another said situation bill cosby how many years were you on that show eight years always thirteen was there of thirteen you said he was a mentor to you i knew bill very well interviewed him many times spent a lot of time with him has this been difficult for you yes. because when you watch someone who you know and love you know go through what he's going through it's difficult not to. you know not to feel something have some kind of emotional response to you know what this person is going through have you spoken to him yeah it was said been like i mean do you. have you lost faith in him have you lost feelings for a minute no he is feeling no not at all honestly my biggest feeling is i

feel sad for you know just. just the way this whole just where the whole story has come about and when you are you've done so much wonderful. so many wonderful things for so much of your career and. you know after having had such a long path a long journey you have something like this that you've got a concern with you forgive if it's true what we never will never know i don't think any of us will never know what the truth is you know and we a talking with so many different there's so many different aspects to you know there are all these stories from all these different women then there's this one particular case that we're talking about so it's that there's so many moving parts to it is a blind yes he's definitely he's definitely behind but his spirits are his birds

are great what was he like to work with it was pretty incredible because he's great with people. he had a he has a wonderful sense of being able to to set a tone on the set so people would come to to to work on our show and be so surprised about the. genuine sincere liking and respect that we all have for each other amongst the cast and crew there was always just a really great vibe and that comes down from the top and people always talk about how rare that kind of energy is when you you know walk on especially a hit show you've got all these eagles involved and do one thing that i learned from mr cosby is he never came to work if anyone's career wanted to come into work with a big ego it would be his and because he never came to work carrying that ego one

of the things i learned early on was. he's not doing it then it's and there's no reason for me to come to work acting that way so he gave me amongst the million the things i learned from him he gave me really a real sense of how to handle celebrityhood and living in the public eye what legacy is he left with you. you'll always be theo huxtable right. sure yeah i mean that show will rule last forever still shows yeah yeah and still. i mean this show holds such importance because it really changed the scope of how. black america and white america and the world for that matter saw all black people coming up were talking poetry politics and the personnel from from all would trade places with the right to.

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move for your. back with malcolm jamal warner he's one of the stars of ten days in the valleys also a suspect. ten days in the valley premiering october first a b c and boy is the set they have to watch that if you're part of a powerful short called you can't hear me what was that about it was a you can hear me was a are is a socio political outcry. you know in terms of what's happening in the world today david bianculli was one of the poets and producers of the project. you know invited me to to be a part of it you do your own poetry oh yeah yeah have you always written poetry well yes to the world versus a child yes when i was six or seven years old this is before i was even acting i

proclaim to my parents that i was even going to be a famous actor a famous poet or famous basketball player so i got two out of three you like the spoken word poetry yeah you might my dad went to lincoln university with gil scott heron and bryan jackson so i had i've literally come out of the womb listening to gil scott in the last poets so they had a really big employers you grow up i was once or the city spent my precocity life back and forth from chicago to tell a kid my parents were split and i would go back and forth because we were shot here right. in new york new york yeah. and you can hear me you say i still try to find the god in those who choose a massage any and hate as tools to make america great. we're talking about mr trump we're talking about not just in a citroen by thing mr trump's supporters people who voted for him mean you view bew

voted for i said he and they there's no way around it you have any hope for this have been a stray ssion. i think i have more hope for what the wake up call does to our country i mean there are men there are. he is you know the pro trump supporters are a voice that had not been and not been heard and they've now made their voices heard and that's one of the things we talk about and you can hear me you know the frustration in trying to get your voice heard you play a little game of if you only knew you do not have to answer is not a corporal ok who was your childhood celebrity crush janet jackson secret talent. ok person you'd trade places with for a day malcolm x. guilty pleasure. true blood t.v.

show you'd like to be a guest star who game of thrones best compliment you ever got that i would be a great father someone to die in a walk with reel of the noose with his job you have had a bag of groceries was what store it was a liquor roaster store in my neighborhood back in. like i was not as like seventy nine we'll good beggar i was actually something you wish you a better at acting strangest fan encounter got my i scratched at a parade who did a woman. ran up to it yeah she was a failure yes she was going to quality to do you get me in luxury you can't live without my bass your bass i'm a bass player so oh yeah that too yeah yeah that's a luxury of a place in a group i actually i have a jazz funk spoken word band called miles long got three c.d.'s out really yeah

yeah i found that again a friend has told me something people don't know about you i just learn to live their lives are going to write very. i have more of a struggle than people realize. in owning that i am enough. to make sense a struggling year enough's yes struggling that owning that i am enough i think even though i've been acting for more than half of my life even though i have been able to navigate through the perils of growing up in this industry on what to be seen as a successful path. there's a certain confidence that i exude but even with all of that there's still a struggle and owning that yes i am enough you were a poet. you played dr john prentice in guess who's coming to dinner the famous and

imported spencer tracy katherine hepburn movie. which i never knew was a play. you claimed it in washington and boston yes does it follow the film yes very much so. there are i think one of the fortunate things that we had in being able to do it as a play in two thousand and thirteen fourteen is that we had a little bit more room to. be emotional you know during the time when they shot the film you know the racial climate was you know was so high there were only if you only say but so much about the racial tension dr john printers could only have but so much of an emotional art where as having the freedom to do it on stage and doing it you know so many years later it's gave us a little bit more room to tell more truths to like the film yet stanley

kramer yes yes story still relevant very much so and what was really interesting about the people would come to the show and even though the story itself was about race relations people were able to that the message transcended race you know when we have these discussions afterwards people would say well you could have the same story line and it be about a same sex couple or it could be. you know. you know a muslim bringing home a jew person poor person you meet first person yet you're named after malcolm x. malcolm x. and the marjoram all while my dad set me up well i did a we have a couple social media questions jack succinct how was it working with eddie griffin . challenging at best and i'm sure he would say the same thing

tall drink of slaughter did you get to keep denise gordon. gordon's boarding gutteral. no that shirt is actually i think it's in the smithsonian actually really think so mike healey would you ever consider reprising the role of theo huxtable and where do you see theo in today's world that's a good question that's a good idea i don't see myself reprising that role you know a little yeah you know what i would think it would probably be right to say ridge. i think theo would i'm sure theo. has his own would have his own family by now and he would have wound up being a what a psychologist probably you know professional definitely yes michelle wrangle do you see yourself you view yourself successfully would you want to have your own sitcom even yes i could go back to having my own soko. there is

it's taken me a while it's taken me into my adult life to. really respect the sitcoms rahner in a way that i didn't so much growing up because growing up. you know i think on the scale of things people look at sitcom as easy. and i think just growing up and watching some people do sitcom and not miss you know very talented actors do not do so well in the city calm it gave me another respect and appreciation for you know what that genre is as an actor hard work it really is it's a great schedule but it's hard work would you do another family comedy i would definitely want to film a common i have a different perspective on family now. you said that music might be the audit that's closest to your heart. yes tell me about the album. this

is the last. record i put out selfless. you know i put the record out in a time when i was on hiatus from relationships dating and was really needed to take some time for myself to kind of get some clarity on some things how i see life how want to live my life. you know looked at all of my relationships and you know. the common denominator in why they didn't work out you know being me i just took time to take stock and that record selfless is a reflection of that because i decided that i did not want to go back into another relationship until i was ready to give. selflessly generate the wife. through mutual friend and then again at whole foods at whole foods you know i mean

. how why did you name the band miles long miles long was. really a description of my musical journey. you know i come a long way but i still have a long way to go great pleasure and my pleasure to see you thanks to my guests. want to remember ten days in the premier's october first on a.b.c. and i can't wait to see it and you can always find me on twitter with kings things i'll see you next time. i made a professional is powerpoint to show you how artsy america into the greater media landscape is not all right but we are a solid alternative to the. liberal or conservative and as you can. skew the

facts either talking ad lefties talking at righties oh there you go above it all so look out world is in the spotlight. took me way more time than i care to admit. our culture is awash in lives dominated by streams of never ending electronic hallucinations that burst fiction until they are indistinguishable we have become the most diluted society on politics as a species of endless and needless political theater politicians and a celebrity are two ruling parties are in reality one part of corporate and those who attempt to just. breathless universe of fake news just trying to push through the cruelty and exploitation of the neo liberal. i pushed so far to the margins of

society including by a public broadcasting system that has sold its soul for corporate money that we might as well be mice squeaking against an apple but squeak we must. larry you are watching our america question more. greetings and sell you tell us we begin today our watchers with nudes of one of the biggest takedowns of online child pornography and abuse in recent history all thanks to the good work of australian police unit task force argos their operation

center down a dark web child exploitation forum called child's play which acted as an online underground meeting place for thousands upon thousands of pedophiles and child pornographers to not only peddle their heinous wares but also among other things discuss the best ways to not get caught by authorities the site was created back in april of two thousand and sixteen in the cording to reports attract more than one million registered users by the time of its demise this last september speaking to reporters taskforce argos commander inspector jon rouse explain our team and units like others across the world are singularity focused on stopping the sexual abuse of children and we will continue to work together to infiltrate disrupt and dismantle child sex offender networks like this one. and while i don't think anyone with a conscience could possibly argue against that mission it's the tactics that the australian time.