their operation centers on a dark web child exploitation form called child's play which acted as an online underground meeting place for thousands upon thousands of pedophiles and child pornographers to not only peddle their heinous wares but also among other things discuss the best ways to not get caught by authorities the site was created back in april of two thousand and sixteen in the cording to reports attract more than one million registered users by the time of its demise this last september speaking to reporters taskforce argos commander inspector jon rouse explain our team and units like others across the world are singularity focused on stopping the sexual abuse of children and we will continue to work together to infiltrate disrupt and dismantle child sex offender networks like this one and while i don't think anyone with a conscience could possibly argue against that mission it's the tactics that the australian task force use that are raising eyebrows especially of those directly

affected by these most horrible terrible crimes you see the norwegian newspaper b.g. has uncovered that australian police in their efforts to take down the abusers actually took over and ran the child's play site for almost an entire year that's right in their efforts to bust traffickers of child pornography the australian police essentially became traffickers themselves by allowing for four members of the sharon upload numerous images and videos of child abuse and rape this of course begs the very very important question for not just australian citizens but for citizens all around the world just how far is too far should we allow our law enforcement members to become devils themselves in order to catch the devils they pursue. let's ask that question and start watching the hawks.

what would it. look like the real thing is what. i do believe the bottom. like you know what i got. this. week. well the hard science i robot and i'm talking a lot less about is the question really is do you allow the police to go that far. in the you know in their attempts to catch truly despicable people i wouldn't mind so much if they were catching me truly truly despicable people which is the ones making this liberal producing it who are behind those pictures and that i didn't see in this case where you saw

a lot of that it was just picking up. people who were treating it wrote wrote yeah i mean you know i mean i'm assuming that they probably god you know some of the perverted the actual group are very or yeah you're right most losers believe we're just on this forum trading these pictures back and forth. it's like busting the guy buying drugs on the story but not the person who's bringing the drugs to the street and in this case the thing is the person being victimized is victimized every time one of those pictures a scent every time one of those videos is watched that is where the real problem lies and so you're revisit izing someone over and over and over again without their consent and so first you have this site which was started in april twenty sixth so april twenty sixth you have this site that was run by these two guys at its high it had more one million profiles. and when they asked three months after police took over the site it had about four hundred twenty seven thousand profiles so this is

a very well there's a lot of traffic going through there so they had the opportunity to you know go in there and find these things but instead decided hey will keep it going it will catch more so of the three or four thousand that were active users so you have all these profiles these profiles and that's one thing where you have active users you have three or four thousand of those were active users and at least one hundred who were producers. who either are abusing kids or film of the kids and distribute the videos on the for. me it's really hard for me to feel bad for the cops or hard to understand any sympathy for the police in this situation when you chose for a year. to keep sharing these images and the bothersome it and it is bothersome i think we had a similar case when i believe with the f.b.i. that we've talked about before on the show that i believe that was only they kept it open for maybe a couple of months right this is like i was still hearing of the matter if you and

the b.g. the newspaper the kind of discovered this and discovered that the law enforcement was behind the operation of this site after they had a centrally arrested the two people responsible for creating it the admins were named benjamin bachner and patrick all day they arrested him in new york just outside of damascus new york in october of two thousand and sixteen and in that arrest they kind of basically rolled over and said here is our passwords here's everything you know all that the police then took that information and essentially . assumed the identities of these two people who created this site in order to mine zero all of the purveyors of the people using this forum. you know it and that's really that's what makes it really diabolical and even the police themselves have talked about how difficult that was and exactly i find it hard to feel bad for them because they are these choices that they made to have this job but you do have to realize what things like this has

a really adverse effect not just on the victims not just on the people involved in that but the police going after it because what we're asking them to do is as you said become those devils become those awful demons that are out there one are just forests egypt's paul griffiths told the jury about the effect that i have of him what he said was i have been working in this field for twenty two years seen pictures has no effect on me anymore but to sit down line and talk like one of these guys every time i've done it i feel like i have to take a shower after the very i can only imagine that's the least of how you would feel you know interacting with you know these kind of behavior is minimal a society but the one they confronted john with them brows it was the head of this task force bio you know of these techniques this tactic of leaving it open ended you heard victims in the process not kind of thing he said look we will do whatever we can within our legislative authority to achieve that sharing any such image is abuse of

a child however it is something we can justify as being for the greater good and to prevent ongoing abuse of children so they're kind of ideology i guess is that well you care about breaking some eggs i guess what the but this is the problem when you talk to someone who is was a mother of one of those victims one of those people in those pictures as she told told that it was she had said in one interview my daughter should not be used as bait if they're using her images then she should be paid or compensated for use. it's not right for the police to promote these images and then suggest she shouldn't be used as bait and if you're going to put her at risk. she should give permission and she has because that child should be compas confiscate compensated for it instead of rejecting lots of period over. slippery territory via. the f.b.i. has spent more than a month and a significant amount of money to investigate apprehended obtained blood samples

from a couple of papers but these aren't the kind of pigs that take showers in front of their assistants or the pig who covers up for the other pigs who harass lady pigs in the workplace you know these are actual figs baby pics that's right the f.b.i. is trying to hunt down to six piglets stolen from us miss field farm in utah by activists from direct action everywhere who were documenting the horrifying conditions of factory farming and it was straight out of the movies the f.b.i. sent six cars filled with agents in bulletproof vests to seize d.n.a. samples from any young pigs and to farm animal sanctuaries with no connection to direct action everywhere the state veterinarian who came with the f.b.i. cut nearly two inches from one pig's ear for the test even the f.b.i. agents witnessing it were horrified wouldn't let the vet cut off the second big zeer but it didn't stop there the f.b.i. followed step out of the same stories from their homes and made scenes questioning them in front of their friends and family the two piglets named lily and lizzie by the activists a direct action everywhere and lucy and ethel to the f.b.i.

aren't special they are genetically engineered to grow human organs or shoot lasers out of their tails they are just piglets the only reason the f.b.i. is putting an ounce of effort into finding these piglets is a cover up for the factory farming industry to point the blame for a million activists who are just criticizing the treatment of the animals but it reality the conditions are food is raised do you think that the f.b.i. should be focusing on two piglets or are there bigger human pigs for them to spend their time. tracking down like the people that would put animals into these you know. living situation mass to a sun surely you know food that's probably not going to turn out not to be very good for us in the long term and. you know factory farming i think especially for worst worst ways to get developed food sources so that he says ever kind of devised it all or about this is truly horrible and what's really

interesting is that there is only one specific ideology that has its own terrorism legislation what would you think that would be what do you think i don't know i mark three middle you are wrong no you are wrong it is not islamic extremism it's nothing like that it's actually animal rights groups have their own specific terrorism legislation in two thousand and six the animal enterprise terrorism act was passed in order to quote provide the department of justice the misery authority to operand prosecute and convict at the vigils committing animal enterprises terror why and now this doesn't actually say kind of cold spring terror or her food supply from harm it ultimately protects the ultimately this law as basically protects back to the farms and the corporations that own them essentially it's a law designed to protect corporations from essentially being called out to the corners with their blood supply or doing something evil to animals in an effort to

get as much food out to the populace as possible no it's just about something now it is above the this is one of those things just to put it into perspective this idea that animal terrorism animal rights terrorism is this huge problem since one thousand seven hundred nine by the way it's as some way that the animal rights and eco rights you know ecology sectors have committed. acts that have created damages of one hundred. ten million dollars oh that's a lot of money but it's all one hundred ten million dollars that is a lot of money roy six figure millions it's got to be a lot of money since nine hundred seventy nine thirty eight years you want to let me put in the present is there a way i may break it down feel the nineteen ninety two n.b.a. finals oh ok though. the chicago bulls versus the portland trailblazers the riots after that game celebrated seventeen million dollars in those days money

that's won while the new york blackout in one nine hundred seventy seven hundred eight million in today's money and one that might well let you to naming. lightning cost the united states economy is that one hundred forty million dollars and twenty fourteen alone like i think doesn't have a special legislation because their animal protested like the factory for blue building with the rifle small drop and there are other people have been arrested and charged under this law for side walking talking sidewalks handing out flyers and just protesting that it's a joke or it's an absolute joke and even this is the thing about this. it was rachel marron paul who sometimes are for the center for constitutional rights told mother jones back in two thousand and eleven when they were talking about it that basically the law's saying if you cause an animal enterprise to lose profits then you've committed a terrorist act the whole point of many protests is to cause a business to lose profits to convince the public that certain company doesn't

deserve to be patronised here's the deal you're telling me the guy in vegas isn't a terrorist but these people trying to save to pay glitz are a good question terrible right now going to break card watchers don't forget to let us know what you think about topics with grover a very good twitter see our poll shows our two drug problem coming up sean stone sits down with former new york state assemblyman filmmaker nelson dennis to discuss the current state of puerto rico after all of the crazy donald trump and hurricane damage stay tuned for the. i think the average viewer just after watching a couple segments on. stands there were telling stories there are critics can't tell me you know why because their advertisers won't let them. in order to create

change you have to be honest you have to tell the truth parties able to do that every story is built on going after the back story to what's really happening out there to the american public what's happening when a corporation makes a pharmaceutical chills people when a company in the environmental business ends up polluting a river that causes cancer and other illnesses they put all the health risk all the dangers out to the american public those are stories that we tell every week and you know what they're working. on these in the in the. under water. total room. i mean we didn't. obey the order to go to. d.c.

to move for you. all the food we took. every the world should experience. and you get it on the old the old. the old according to gesture. welcome to my world come along for the ride. as puerto rico continues to assess the colossal dam. standby hurricanes are man maria society has been debating the effectiveness of the government's response after what came across as

a generally effective and media savvy response to hurricanes and houston and louisiana the president came under fire for a delayed reaction in puerto rico and whether a piece of paper towel throwing visit that seemed like more of an afterthought or the back and forth over whether or not to lift shipping restrictions under the jones act much has been said about the asymmetrical devastation this hurricane season has brought to puerto rico the united states territory versus proper states such as texas and louisiana but as many puerto rican activists point out that difference may be more of a new feature than a bug to discuss how the territory as political history is now led to its economic condition sean stone sat down earlier with former new york state assemblyman nelson dennis. let me take you back even further the cause is there a real parallel context here there was another hurricane shortly after united states committed eight hundred ninety eight in one thousand nine hundred ninety very next year some cd out who was the worst hurricane of jack century of the nineteenth century a slap in the eye with that is worse than hurricane rita and the american response

the very following year in one thousand nine hundred was to devalued the puerto rican currency by forty percent and then the year after that in one thousand and one it instituted our center for aggressive property taxes longer act that it never is existed before in the island so it's we know her a currency devaluation and property taxes it was like that not only klein shark doctoring on steroids and the net result of that was within thirty years when reagan lost eighty percent of their land so they became a one crop cash cow economy that of sugar and that eighty percent was in the hands of north american banking syndicates i use that as the context because when you stand forward now we have a lot of parallels here after. a whole over a century we have a financial control board that has come in during the atari puerto rican economy

over suppose that a legit debt that in fact would not exist were it not for the plenary jurisdiction of the us congress which which commands the puerto rican economy in the first place as an example is the jones act this section twenty seven of the merchant marine act of one nine hundred twenty eight david jones act stimulus that any foreign registry festival in the puerto rico has to pay taxes you need all sorts of costs that get passed on to the puerto rican consumer there's one alternative that same foreign boat boat can route to jacksonville florida they offload the goods everything food medicine water or oil and they loaded onto an american boat and then that three routes to puerto rico the result is that everything that comes into puerto rico is hyper inflated about twenty percent and us corporations are the ones that have been benefiting this for ninety eight years since one thousand nine hundred eighty and that in one wall alone the jones act caused whole riegel roughly three to four

billion dollars a year in other words you would have paid this this alleged debt a puerto rico four times over if it weren't for the jones act that one law would have paid to the debt and that the condition that puerto rico has been it is a territorial possession of the united states and the us supreme court upheld that in to support in two cases last year so just by of course the us being the most prominent one where the solicitor general the obama administration the executive branch so listed it be the the judicial branch it argued that puerto rico under the supremacy and territorial pulls of the position of a commonwealth not a bilateral that not an undue not even an unincorporated territory body but a territorial possession and the supreme court agreed and shown that the problem for a good puerto rico is a thief facto colony of the united states and it cannot have its own economy.

precisely i mean not only is puerto rico have no representation in the u.s. but this whole jones act is a colonial imperial policy essentially control strangling the puerto rican economy you talk about this debt port of seventy billion dollars and growing recently the trump said it should be wiped out do you think there's any hope that that this may actually occur on the trumpet ministration or do you think that was just him blustering in a moment of excitement. a lot of the problem was chump doesn't mean he's our president you know and i want to have some of the guy which he has the attention span of a gnat so you never know what's coming out of you know what's going to come out of there one day to the next at the same time as treasury secretary does seem to have that what he said regarding puerto rico regarding the debt counseling debt first he supports the journal that he waves of ten days and so you know you can't this man could not be counted on except to go to puerto rico and draw

a bathroom tissue as you know about a school play or we need some more structural assurances and eventually that's going to have to come from the u.s. congress because they're the ones that have plenary jurisdiction they're the ones that have controlled this relationship for over a century. and indeed i mean right now obviously puerto rico is looking at a situation or reminiscent of what happened in haiti in almost ten years ago but essentially what haiti has yet to recover from that devastating earthquake and even though people are saying that trumps response has not been as rapid as obama's was necessary with military personnel being deployed it wasn't as though the reconstruction was very successful from from the u.s. approach and now i think you're going to look more towards private investors companies like tesla saying they might they would be willing to rebuild the the grid in private companies coming in but what do you think are the most important

steps that can be made to actually reconstruct puerto rico and after this complete devastation. you know what it is it's a mind you it's very it's a delicate balance because you need all hands on deck and at the same time there's a possibility of children force what i mean by that is there's this big p p three s. public private partnerships what it will read going to be made m p five s. public private partnerships all the plunder. puerto rico example is a p r twenty two and p r five the two most profitable highways on the island are basically under ownership of goldman sachs and op ed piece or for a ship under a thirty five year lease where the projected revenue profits are going to be close to two billion dollars for them over the next thirty five years so these public private partnerships they come in like a lamb but they go out there and land in the wilton lands floating because they can they can actually come and deer the public infrastructure of puerto rico and so

that it that's a very real concern because the course area air fields highways bridges schools hospitals even the princes the entire public infrastructure of puerto rico kennedy literally up for grabs right now and. if what there needs to be in addition to a sort of a mixture of some capital access and some measure of a partnership but to much of these people reeves is basically going to put their hands into foreign ownership on a very long term basis what can be done is to have a permanent jones accurately so that puerto rico can have its own shipping and have and negotiate its own international trade relations and establish its own tri-city structure right now or to go to the fifth largest market in the world for u.s. goods as more walgreens and wal-mart perspire mile in puerto rico than anywhere

else on the planet and they're all coming in all those goods sold us goods or be priced twenty percent higher so the jones act of asking as a an international price maybe scenario in puerto rico so one would be to provide and have jones act relief in puerto rico two is to require a stipulated reinvestment of any corporate profits that corporations get a twenty year tax of a. in deals in puerto rico where i don't pay for it interested in the capital gains that there's a man in the jump also who's been property from that optic imbalance that in puerto rico over the other guy but nick proudly somehow some cash wonders what if you're getting a twenty year tax abatement deal then you should at least reinvest a small stipulated proportion of those profits back into puerto rican infrastructure which you're using anyway as a corporation if you're using the highways the air the climate all the benefits of

the that caribbean environment you shouldn't have any problem we have the best think of it that that should happen and that should happen for whoever because what we have it is companies that come based they they get a twenty year tax break they believe in it and this is the cycle of boom and bust for the puerto rican economy so that the sec the jones act and in a negotiated stipulated reinvestment in puerto rican infrastructure or so on foreign corporations the third thing would be alternative technologies will win a side order and and as obviously when it is hurricane when water and sun are very abundant in puerto rico well those can be harnessed and those can be very profitable very productive alternative technologies in puerto rico another is to revive the puerto rican agricultural sector in the united states when in the early one nine hundred six agriculture was seventy percent of the gross national product of puerto rico it is now point eight percent less than one percent so it's still

the same island with the same fertility the same climate and libya would be on a great path of sustenance if you could revive some of that agriculture so between agriculture alternative technologies corporate reinvestment and relieved from the jones act all of those are in indigenous. very very empowering or we sort. that to be appealing without having to read it again in capital and the speech reads so anything should be in the mix not just have already invested in the days of pete's release. the recent surge of pollution is an existential threat to the multitude of wildlife and environment but leave it to a couple of annoying surfers of all things to tackle this global problem and now we have a solution on our hands meet meat and return to australian surfers who've raised

over two hundred sixty thousand dollars in a bid to make this seem been a reality and bring it to market with a concept that seems almost too simple to work to do a lot was looking into making every marina and by extent the oceans a cleaner place for both wildlife and humans the floating trash bin consists of just sent natural fiber and that and the pump that sucks in the trash and oils from the water surface and after a successful fundraising run on indigo the sea bin is finally setting out on its maiden voyage clean up england's portsmouth harbor as well as the spanish marina and the port of helsinki and finland should the sea even prove itself sea worthy and is set to hit mass markets with a price tag of around four thousand dollars which may be a little pricey to use in your family pool but it's certainly a worthy investment for towns and cities looking for an eco friendly solution to their splitter problems like seeing people being innovative like single individuals around the world this world be like when we travel innovation try to clean up

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a cleaning literally as the troubled ministration aims to appeal all the what could this mean for the twenty million acres of the wetlands and the two million miles of strains protected under these rules to find out don't go anywhere america's war starts right now. agro chemical giant monsanto has been having a very bad year to say the least but there's no need to feel sorry for the company all their problems have been caused by their own greed their own arrogance and their own negligence the year started off with lawsuits being filed against monsanto for covering up the dangers associated with their blockbuster we kill around up scientific studies of linked round up to various forms of cancer neurological.