argos their operation center on a dark web child exploitation form called child's play which acted as an online underground meeting place for thousands upon thousands of pedophiles and child pornographers to not only peddle their heinous wares but also among other things discuss the best ways to not get caught by authorities the site was created back in april of two thousand and sixteen in the cording to reports attract more than one million registered users by the time of its demise this last september speaking to reporters task force argos commander inspector jon rouse explained our team and units like others across the world are singularity focused on stopping the sexual abuse of children and we will continue to work together to infiltrate disrupt and dismantle child sex offender networks like this one. and while i don't think anyone with a conscience could possibly argue against that mission it's the tactics that the

australian task force use that are raising eyebrows especially of those directly affected by these most horrible terrible crimes you see the norwegian newspaper b.g. has uncovered that australian police in their efforts to take down the abusers actually took over and ran the child's play site for almost an entire year that's right in their efforts to bust traffickers of child pornography the australian police essentially became traffickers themselves by allowing for four members of the sharon upload numerous images and videos of child abuse and rape. this of course begs the very very important question for not just australian citizens but for citizens all around the world just how far is too far should we allow our law enforcement members to become doubles themselves in order to catch the doubles they pursue. let's us that question and start watching the hawks.

to. get the. real deal with. the bottom. like you but i got. this. week so. well for our science i robot and i'm talking a lot less so that is the question that really is do you allow the police to go that far. in the you know in their attempts to catch truly bespectacled people i wouldn't mind so much if they were catching me truly truly despicable people which is the ones making this liberal producing it who are behind those pictures and that i didn't see in this case where you saw

a lot of that it was just picking up people who were trading at right right yeah i mean the i mean i'm assuming that they probably got your some of the purvey of the actual group purveyors but yeah you're right most of these it is the people who are just on this forum trading these pictures back and forth and things like that it's like busting the guy buying drugs on the story but not the person who's bringing the drugs to the street right and in this case the thing is the person being victimized is victimized every time one of those pictures a scent every time one of those videos is watched that is where the real problem lies. and so you're we victimize ing someone over and over and over again without their consent and so first you have this site which was started twenty six so in april twenty sixth you have this site that was run by these two guys at its high it had more or had one million profiles. and when they are three months after police took over the site it had about four hundred twenty seven thousand hours so this is

a very well there's a lot of traffic going through there so they had the opportunity to you know go in there and find these things but instead decided hey will keep it going it will catch more so of the three or four thousand that were active users so you have all these profiles these profiles and that's one thing where you have active users you have three or four thousand of those were active users and it was the hundred who were producers. who either are abusing kids or film abusive of these kids and distribute the videos on the for. me it's really hard for me to feel bad for the cops or hard to understand any sympathy for the police in this situation when you chose for a year. to keep sharing these images and allowing the bothers me and it is bothersome i think we had a similar case when i believe with the f.b.i. that we've talked about before on the show but i believe that it was only been kept open for a good couple months right this is and i was still here is the matter of you my.

b.g. the newspaper that kind of discovered this and discovered that the law enforcement was behind the operation of this site after they had a arrest of the two people responsible for creating. bachner and patrick coulter they arrested him in new york just outside of but masses in new york in october of two thousand and sixteen and in that a russ they kind of basically rolled over and said here is our process words here is everything you know all that the police then took that information and essentially. assumed the identities of these two people who created this site in order to mine zero all of the purveyors of the people using this forum. you know it and that's really that's what makes it really diabolical and even the police themselves have talked about how difficult that was and exactly i find it hard to feel bad for them because they are these choices that they made to have this job but you do have to realize what things like this has

a really adverse effect not just on the victims not just on the people involved in that but the police going after it because what we're asking them to do is as you said become those devils become those awful demons that are out there one are just forests egypt's paul griffiths told the jury about the effect that i have of him what he said was i have been working in this field for twenty two years seen pictures has no effect on me anymore but to sit down line and talk like one of these guys every time i've done it i feel like i have to take a shower after the very i can only imagine that's the least of how you would feel you know interacting with you know these kind of behavior is middle of society but when they confronted john with them browse it was the head of this task force bio you know of these techniques this tactic of leaving it open ended you heard victims in the process and that kind of thing he said we will do whatever we can within our legislative authority to achieve that sharing any such image is abuse of

a child however it is something we can justify as being for the greater good and to prevent ongoing abuse of children so they're kind of ideology i guess is that well you care when you get around without breaking some eggs i guess what the but this is the problem when you talk to someone who is was a mother of one of those victims one of those people in those pictures as she told told that it was she had said in one interview my daughter should not be used as bait if they're using her images then she should be paid or compensated for use. it's not right for the police to promote these images and then suggest she shouldn't be used as bait and if you're going to put her at risk. she should give permission and should be treated because that child should be compas compass get compensated for it instead of rejecting lots of period of. slippery territory. the f.b.i. has spent more than a month and a significant amount of money to investigate apprehended obtained blood samples

from a couple of papers but these aren't the kind of pigs that take showers in front of their assistants or the pig who covers up for the other pigs who harass lady pigs in the workplace you know these are actual figs baby pics that's right the f.b.i. is trying to hunt down to six piglets stolen from a smithfield farm in utah by activists from direct action everywhere who were documenting the horrifying conditions of factory farming and it was straight out of the movies the f.b.i. spent six cars filled with agents and bulletproof vests just sees d.n.a. samples from any young pigs to farm animal sanctuaries with no connection to direct action everywhere the state veterinarian who came with the f.b.i. cut nearly two inches from one pig's ear for the test given the f.b.i. agents witnessing it were horrified when let the vet cut off the second big zeer but it didn't stop there the f.b.i. followed step out of the same stories from their homes and made scenes questioning them in front of their friends and family the two piglets named lily and lizzie by

the activists that direct action everywhere and lucy and ethel to the f.b.i. aren't special they are genetically engineered to grow human organs or shoot lasers out of their tails they are just piglets the only reason the f.b.i. is putting an ounce of effort into finding these piglets is a cover up for the factory farming industry to point the blame for a million activists who are just criticizing the treatment of the animals but it reality the conditions are food is raised do you think that the f.b.i. should be focusing on two piglets or are there bigger human pigs for them to spend their time. tracking down like the people that would put animals into these you know. living situation mass to a sun surely you know food that's probably not going to turn out not to be very good for us in the long term. you know factory farming i think especially in very worst worst ways to get developed food sources so that he says every

kind of devised you know or about is truly horrible and what's really interesting is that there is only one specific ideology that has its own terrorism legislation what would you think that would be do you think that also i mark three mo you are wrong no you are wrong it is not islamic extremism it's nothing like that it's actually animal rights groups have their own specific terrorism legislation in two thousand and six the animal enterprise terrorism act was passed in order to quote provide the department of justice the misery authority to operand prosecute and convict the vigils computing animal enterprises terror why and now this doesn't actually say hold spring terror or her food supply from harm it ultimately protects the elderly this law as basically protects factory farms and the corporations that own them essentially it's a law designed to protect corporations from essentially being called out corners

with their supplies or doing something evil to animals in an effort to get as much food out to the populace as possible no it's just about something out it is about something this is one of those things just to put it into perspective this idea that animal terrorism animal rights terrorism is this huge problem since one thousand seven hundred nine by the way it's as to me that the animal rights and eco rights you know ecology sectors have committed. acts that have created damages of one hundred. ten million dollars oh that's a lot of money to what he told one hundred ten million dollars that is a lot of money roy six figure of millions it's got to be a lot of money since nine hundred seventy nine thirty eight years you want to live in but in the present is there a way i mean break is out feel the nineteen ninety two n.b.a. finals oh ok though. the chicago bulls versus the portland trailblazers the riots after that game is celebrated seventeen million dollars

a day is money that's won while the new york blackout in one nine hundred seventy seven hundred eight million in today's money and one that might help all you to naming. lightning cost the united states economy is that one hundred forty million dollars and twenty fourteen alone like i think doesn't have a special legislation because their animal protests of like they're the backdrop for building with the rifle small drop in the car other people have been arrested and charged under this law for side walking talking sidewalks handing out flyers and just protesting that it's a joke or it's an absolute joke and even this is the thing about this. it was rachel marron paul has a temper for the center for constitutional rights told mother jones back in two thousand and eleven when they were talking about it that basically the law is saying if you cause an animal enterprise to lose profits then you've committed a terrorist act the whole point of many protests is to cause

a business to lose profits to convince the public that certain company doesn't deserve to be patronised here's the deal you're telling me the guy in vegas isn't a terrorist but these people trying to save to pay glitz are a good question terrible right now go to break card watchers don't forget to let us know what you think about topics with grover a very good twitter see our poll shows our two drug problem coming up sean stone sits down with former new york state assemblyman filmmaker nelson dennis to discuss the current state of puerto rico after all of the crazy donald trump and hurricane damage stay tuned. and you know in the years you know you go until you go into. the shows or the you for the missing link that is gold. so in never been so i threw that into the term that the that the need. to go to war if you will be able

to exist it will be possible to push the glad i wish have got. the money take the money. to it or got up out of it. and of course the state of the impulse. to not put the stumbling out of the room the truth believe. me. become worthless. here's what people have been saying about rejected and that is to us it actually was full on ourselves and i was the only show i go out of my way to launch you know

what it was that really packs upon our own belief yampa is the john oliver of our three americas doing the same we are apparently better than the brutality that i see people you've never heard of love redacted the night. president of the world bank so very early right seriously send us an e-mail. thanks. thanks thanks. thanks. as puerto rico continues to assess the colossal damage done by hurricanes arm and maria society has been debating the effectiveness of the government's response after what came across as a generally effective and media savvy response to hurricanes and houston and louisiana the president came under fire for a delayed reaction in puerto rico and whether it be paper towel throwing visit that seemed like more of an afterthought or the back and forth over whether or not to

lift shipping restrictions under the jones act much has been said about the asymmetrical devastation this hurricane season has brought to puerto rico united states territory versus proper states such as texas and louisiana but as many puerto rican activists point out that difference may be more of a new feature than a bug to discuss how the territory as political history is now led to its economic condition sean stone sat down earlier with former new york state assemblyman nelson . let me take you back even further because is there a terrible context here it was another hurricane shortly after united states committed eighty ninety eight in one thousand nine hundred ninety two very next year some see the. worst hurricane jack century of the nineteenth century it would be i would do worse than hurricane rita and the american missed front very following year in one thousand nine hundred was to show you. the puerto rican currency by forty percent and then the year after that in one thousand know one it

instituted asset or progressive property taxes in the hollander act that it never is existed before on the island so between the hurricane it turns evaluation and property taxes it was like that ny only klein shock doctrine on steroids and the net result of that was within thirty years when reagan's lost eighty percent of their lands and it became a one prop cash cow economy that are sugar and that eighty percent were in the hands of north american banking syndicates i use that in the context because when you fast forward now we have a lot of parallels here after a whole over a century we have a financial control board that has come in during the entire puerto rican economy over suppose that a legit debt that in fact would not exist were it not for the plenary jurisdiction of the us congress which which commands the puerto rican economy in the first place as an example is the jones act this section twenty seven of the merchant marine act

of one nine hundred twenty eight david jones acts to police that any foreign registry festival in the puerto rico has to pay taxes feed you needs all sorts of costs that get passed on to the puerto rican consumer there's one alternative that same foreign boat boat can route to jacksonville florida they offload the goods everything food medicine water oil. and they loaded onto an american boat and then that three routes to puerto rico the result is that everything that comes into puerto rico is hyper inflated about twenty percent and us corporations are the ones that have been benefiting this for ninety eight years since one thousand nine hundred eighty and that in one wall alone the jones act of course will regal roughly three to four billion dollars a year in other words you would have paid this this alleged debt a puerto rico for time. and over if it weren't for the jones act that one of law would have paid to the debt and that is the condition that puerto rico has been it

is a territorial possession of the united states and the us supreme court upheld that it to suit the in two cases last year so just by of course the us be the most prominent one where the solicitor general the obama administration the executive branch so listed it be the judicial branch it argued that puerto rico under the supremacy and territorial couples of the session a commonwealth not a bilateral that not an on and not even an unincorporated territory but eight but eight territorial possession and the supreme court agreed and shown that the problem or a good puerto rico is eighty facto colony of the united states and it cannot have its own economy. precisely i mean not only have no representation in the us but this whole jones act as a colonial imperial policy essentially control as at the strangling the puerto rican economy talk about this that

a part of seventy billion dollars and growing brazenly the trump said it should be wiped out do you think there's any hope that that this may actually occur at the top administration anything that was just him blustering at a moment of excitement. around the problem will trump isn't i mean he's our president you know and i want to have some time to see the guy but he has the attention span of a gnat and so you never know what's coming out of you know what's going to come out of there one day to the next at the same time as treasury secretary disowned half of what he said regarding puerto rico regarding that debt counseling debt first he supports the journal that he waved for ten days and so you know you can't this man could not be counted out except to go to puerto rico and throw bathroom tissues as a you know about school play or we need it. more structural assurances and eventually that's going to have to come from the u.s. congress because they're the ones that have plenary jurisdiction they're the ones

that have controlled this relationship for over a century. and indeed i mean right now obviously puerto rico is looking at a situation are reminiscent of what happened in haiti and almost ten years ago but essentially a haiti has yet to recover from that devastating earthquake and even though people are saying that trump's response has not been as rapid as obama's was necessarily with military personnel being deployed it wasn't as though the reconstruction was very successful from from the u.s. approach and now i think you're going to look more towards private investors companies like tesla same they might they would be willing to rebuild the the grid in private companies coming in but what do you think are the most important steps that can be made to actually reconstruct puerto rico and after this complete devastation and. you know what it is it's a mind you it's very it's a delicate balance because you need all hands on deck and at the same time there's

a possibility of children force what i mean by that is this big will keep the public private partnerships but it will remain to be baby teeth fives public private partnerships all the plunder puerto rico examples p r twenty two and p r five the two most profitable fire ways on the island are basically under ownership of goldman sachs an op ed piece or ration under a thirty five year lease where the projected revenue profits are going to be close to two billion dollars for them over the next thirty five years so these public private partnerships they come in like a lamb but they go out in their own land and will to land slowly because they can they can actually commandeer the public infrastructure of puerto rico and so that is that's a very real concern because the course area air. fields highways bridges schools hospitals even the prisons the entire public infrastructure of puerto rico kennedy

literally up for grabs right now and. if what they're doing needs to be in addition to a sort of a mixture of some capital access and some measure of a partnership but to much of these people reeves is basically going to put their hands into foreign ownership on a very long term basis what can be done is to have a permanent jones accurately so that puerto rico can have its own shipping and have and negotiate its own international trade relations and establish its own tri-city structure right now or to go to the fifth largest market in the world for us it's more walgreens and wal-mart per square mile in puerto rico than anywhere else on the planet and they're all coming in all those goods sold us goods or be priced twenty percent higher so the jones act of asking as a an international price maybe scenario in puerto rico so one would be

to have jones actually from puerto rico two is to require a stipulated reinvestment of any corporate profits that corporations are getting twenty year tax abatement deals in puerto rico where i don't pay for it interested in the capital gains it is amending jump olson who's in property from that optic imbalance that in puerto rico and the other guy but nick prouty some have some hedge funders but if you're getting a twenty year tax abatement deal then you should at least reinvest a small stipulated proportion of those profits back into puerto rican infrastructure which you're using anyway as a corporation if you're using the highways the air the climate all the benefits of the that caribbean environment you shouldn't have any problem we have the best of it that that should happen and. should happen for where because what we have it is companies that come based a they get

a twenty year tax break they believe it and this is the cycle of boom and bust for the puerto rican economy so that the second jones act and in a negotiated stipulated reinvestment of puerto rican infrastructure or so on foreign corporations the third thing would be alternative technologies with we're either side of her and and as obviously when it is hurricane we do water and sun a very abundant in puerto rico well those can be harnessed and those can be very profitable very productive alternative technologies in in puerto rico another is to revive the puerto rican agricultural sector in the united states when in the early one nine hundred agriculture was seventy percent of the gross national product of puerto rico it is now point eight percent less than one percent so it's still that same island with the same fertility the same climate and libya would be on a great path of sustenance if it could revive some of that agriculture so between

now the culture alternative technologies corporate reinvestment and relieved from the jones act all of those are in indigenous. very very empowering or resources that can be employed in puerto rico without having to break free in the foreign capital and the speed threes so all of those i think should be included in the mix not just have foreign investment under the guise of pete's reese. there is one source of pollution as an existential threat to the multitude of wildlife in an environment but leave until a couple of annoying surfer assault bangs to tackle this global problem and now we have a solution on our hands good solid school and enter turn to our strengths our personal fraser in twenty six thousand dollars in a bid to make the sudan a reality and bring it to market. concept that seems almost too simple to work to do a lot was looking into making every marina and by extent the oceans

a cleaner place for both wildlife and humans the floating trash bin consists of just sent natural fiber in that and the pump that sucks in the trash and oils from the water surface and after a successful fundraising run on indie go go the see bin is finally setting out on its maiden voyage clean up england's portsmouth harbor as well as the spanish marina and the port of helsinki in finland should the sea even prove itself sea worthy and is set to hit mass markets with a price tag of around four thousand dollars which may be a little pricey to use in your family pool but it's certainly a worthy investment for towns and cities looking for an eco friendly solution to theirs litter problems like seeing people being innovative like single individuals around the world this world be like when we travel innovation try to clean up sup a little bit you know suddenly become a shark you know make a little money off of it and know make the world a better place you know and it's affordable and it's a horrible four thousand dollars for a big marina like that with you know million dollar modes everywhere that's less if

you invest every little one have it all right everybody that is our show for today remember everyone in this world we are definitely not told her love the love or tell you wall i love you i robot and i have a lot of people are watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night everybody. luxury and free but also an alarming number of people living in the streets. the simple fact is now ladies there's just not enough shelter even if people on the streets right now decided to come in there's nowhere to come in it's been a struggle. this month protozoan response to the problem and construct good. dozens of tiny homes for people in need of shelter when you have nothing in order to go. you know having something like this may as well be

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