we. welcome our science i robot and on top of the others the question really is do you allow the police to go that far. in the you know in their attempts to catch truly bespectacled people. i wouldn't mind so much if they were catching the truly truly despicable people which is the ones making the brutal producing who are behind those pictures and that i didn't see in this case where you saw a lot of that it was just picking up. people who were treating it right yeah i mean i mean i'm assuming that they probably god you know some of the perverted the actual group are very or is but you know you're right most of these it is a symbol of we're just on this forum trading these pictures back and forth and things like that it's like busting the guy buying drugs on the story but not the

person who's bringing the drugs to the street and in this case the thing is the person being victimized is victimized every time one of those pictures a scent every time one of those videos is watched that is where the real problem lies and so you're revit surprising someone over and over and over again without their consent and so first you have this site which was started in april twenty sixth so april twenty sixth you have this site that was run by these two guys and at its height it had more or had one million profiles. and when they are three months after police took over the site it had about four hundred twenty seven thousand hours so this is a very well there's a lot of traffic going through there so they had the opportunity to you know go in there and find these things but instead decided hey we'll keep it going it will catch more so of the three or four thousand that were active users so you have all these profiles these profiles and that's one thing we got active users of three or four thousand of those were active users and at least one hundred who were

producers. who either are abusing kids or film of these kids and distribute the videos on the for. me it's really hard for me to feel bad for the cops or hard to understand any sympathy for the police in this situation when you chose for a year. to keep sharing these images and allowing the bothers me it is bothersome i think we had a similar case when i believe would be f.b.i. that we've talked about before in the film but i believe that it was only be kept open for a good couple right and this is what i was still hearing is the matter a few months. a newspaper that kind of discovered this and discovered that the law enforcement was behind the operation of this site after they had a centrally arrested the two people responsible for creating the admin's remember benjamin barker and patrick voltaire they arrested him in new york just outside of the masses in new york in october of two thousand and sixteen and in that

a russ they kind of basically rolled over and said here's our passwords here's everything you know all that the police then took that information and essentially . assumed the identities of these two people who created this site in order to in their were minds you know catch all of the purveyors and the people using this forum. you know it and that seems really that's what makes it really diabolical and even the police themselves have talked about how difficult that was and exactly i find it hard to feel bad for them because these are these choices that they may tap this job but you do have to realize what things like this has a really adverse effect not just on the victims not just on the people involved in that but the police going after it because what we're asking them to do is as you said become those devils become those awful demons that are out there one are just forests egypt's paul griffiths told the jury about the effect that i have of him what he said was i have been working in this field for twenty two years seen

pictures has no effect on me anymore but to sit on line and talk like one of these guys every time i've done it i feel like i have to take a shower after the very i can only imagine that's the least of how you would feel you know interacting with you know these kind of behavior is minimal a society but then when they confronted jonathan brows it was the head of this task force to go about you know these techniques this tactic of leaving it open ended you heard victims in the process and that kind of thing he said we will do whatever we can within our legislative authority to achieve that sharing any such image is abuse of a child however it is something. justifies being for the greater good and to prevent ongoing abuse of children so their kind of ideology i guess is that well you care what it. is i guess what the but this is the problem when you talk to someone who is was a mother of one of those victims one of those people in those pictures as she told

told that it was she had said in one interview my daughter should not be used as bait if they're using her images then she should be paid or compensated for use it's not right for the police to promote these images and that's what she should be used as bait and if you're going to put her at risk. she should give permission and she has because that child should be compass compass get compensated for it instead of rejecting lots of period of slippery slippery territory. the f.b.i. has spent more than a month and a significant amount of money to investigate apprehended obtained blood samples from a couple of papers but these aren't the kind of pigs that take showers in front of their assistants or the pig who covers up for the other pigs who harass lady pigs in the workplace you know these are actual figs baby pics that's right the f.b.i. is trying to hunt down to six piglets stolen from us miss field farm in utah by activists from direct action everywhere who were documenting the horrifying

conditions of factory farming and it was straight out of the movies the f.b.i. sent six cars filled with agents and bulletproof vests just sees d.n.a. samples from any young pigs to farm animal sanctuaries with no connection to direct action everywhere the state veterinarian who came with the f.b.i. cut nearly two inches from one pig's ear for the test even the f.b.i. agents witnessing it were horrified wouldn't let the vet cut off the second big zeer but it didn't stop there the f.b.i. followed step out of the same stories from their homes and made scenes questioning them in front of their friends and family the two piglets named lily and lizzie by the activists and direct action everywhere and lucy and ethel to the f.b.i. aren't special they are genetically engineered to grow human organs or shoot lasers out of their tails they are just piglets the only reason the f.b.i. is putting an ounce of effort into finding these piglets is a cover up for the factory farming industry to point the blame for a million activists who are just criticizing the treatment of the animals but

a reality that conditions are food is raised do you think that the f.b.i. should be focusing on two piglets or are there bigger human pigs for them to spend their time tracking down. the people that would put animals you know or with an exaggeration. mass to a sun surely you know food that is probably not going to turn out not to be very good for us in the long term and. you know factory farming i think especially in very worst worst worst ways to get developed food sources so that he says every kind of devised you know or about is truly horrible and what's really interesting is that there is only one specific ideology that has its own terrorism legislation what would you think that would be do you think that also i mark story mo you are wrong no you are wrong it is not islamic extremism it's nothing like that it's actually animal rights groups have their own specific terrorism

legislation in two thousand and six the animal enterprise terrorism act was passed in order to quote provide the department of justice the necessary authority to operand prosecute and convict the vigils computing animal enterprises terror why and now this doesn't actually say hold spring terror or her food supply from harm it ultimately protects the elderly this law as basically protects factory farms and the corporations that own them essentially it's a law designed to protect corporations from essentially being called out in the corners with their blood supply or doing something evil to animals in an effort to get as much food out to the populace as possible no it's just about something out it is above the this is one of those things just to put it into perspective this idea that animal terrorism animal rights terrorism is this huge problem since one thousand seven hundred nine by the way it's as to me that the animal rights and eco

rights you know ecology sectors have committed. acts that have created damages of one hundred ten million dollars oh that's a lot of money to what he told one hundred ten million dollars that is a lot of money roy six figures. that's got to be a lot of bodies since nine hundred seventy nine are thirty eight years you want to let me put in the present is there a way i may break it down for you the nineteen ninety two n.b.a. finals oh ok. the chicago bulls versus the portland trailblazers the riots after that game celebrated seventeen million dollars today is money that's won well the new york blackout in one nine hundred seventy seven hundred eight million in today's money and one that might well let you to naming. lightning cost the united states economy is that one hundred forty million dollars and twenty fourteen alone like i think doesn't have

a special legislation because their animal protested like the factory for building which is a rifle small drop and there are other people have been arrested and charged under this law for side walking talking sidewalks handing out flyers and just protesting that it's a joke or it's an absolute joke and even this is the thing about this. it was rachel marron paul who sometimes are for the center for constitutional rights told mother jones back in two thousand and eleven when they were talking about it that basically the law is saying if you cause an animal enterprise to lose profits then you've committed a terrorist act the whole point of many protests is to cause a business to lose profits to convince the public that certain company doesn't deserve to be patronised here's the deal you're telling me the guy in vegas isn't a terrorist but these people trying to save to pay glitz are a good question terrible right now going to break card watchers don't forget to let us know what you think about topics with grover a very good twitter see our poll shows our two drug problem coming up sean stone sits down with former new york state assemblyman filmmaker nelson dennis to discuss

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colin is still exist. rico is treated as one as are annoying calling colson a hind fulsom alito and then them account thrown him along on the board both recall as you know in a little can i do a lot of sense on the condition of the thumb the island is controlled by the us gov . and some puerto ricans crew even dependents do a little ceremony gonna. go by does it do it out either way like that i mean to sort of randomly go over digging again where you went last year early asking w still many do wish to join the u.s. hundreds more leave every day. on time along the. beings. with the country at a crossroads anger on the island is on the rise. as

puerto rico continues to assess the colossal damage done by hurricanes arm and maria society has been debating the effectiveness of the government's response after what came across as a generally effective and media savvy response to hurricanes and houston and louisiana the president came under fire for a delayed reaction in puerto rico and whether it be paper towel throwing visit that seemed like more of an afterthought or the back and forth over whether or not to lift shipping restrictions under the jones act much as then set about the asymmetrical devastation this hurricane season has brought to puerto rico the united states territory versus proper states such as texas and louisiana but as many puerto rican activists point out that difference may be more of a new feature than a bug to discuss how the territory as political history is now led to its economic condition sean stone sat down earlier with former new york state assemblyman nelson . let me take you back even further because this is our little context here it was

another hurricane shortly after united states committed eighty ninety eight in one thousand nine hundred ninety two very next year some see the. worst hurricane jack century of the nineteenth century it would be i would do worse than hurricane rita and the american response. the following year in one thousand nine hundred was to devalued the puerto rican currency by forty percent and then the year after that in one thousand know one it instituted etc progressive property taxes in the hollander act that it never is existed before on the island so between the hurricane it turns evaluation and property taxes it was like that not only klein shock doctrine on steroids and the net result of that was within thirty years when reagan lost eighty percent of their lands and it became a one prop cash cow economy that are sugar and that eighty percent were in the hands of north american banking syndicates i use that in the context because when

you fast forward now we have a lot of parallels here after a whole over a century we have a financial control board that has come in during the atari puerto rican economy over suppose that a legit debt that in fact would not exist were it not for the plenary jurisdiction of the us congress which which commands the puerto rican economy in the first place as an example is the jones act this section twenty seven of the merchant marine that the one nine hundred twenty eight david jones act stimulates that any foreign registry festival in the puerto rico has to pay taxes feed you need all sorts of costs that get passed on to the puerto rican consumer there's one alternative that same foreign boat boat can route to jacksonville florida they offload the goods everything food medicine water oil. and they loaded onto an american boat and then that reroutes to puerto rico the result is that everything that comes into puerto

rico is hyper inflated about twenty percent and us corporations are the ones that have been benefiting this for ninety eight years since one thousand nine hundred eighty and that in one wall alone the jones act of course will regal roughly three to four billion dollars a year in other words. you would have paid this this alleged debt a puerto rico four times over if it weren't for the jones act that one of law would have paid to the debt and that the condition that puerto rico has been it is a territorial possession of the united states and the u.s. supreme court upheld that in to support in two cases last year so just by of course the u.s. be the most prominent one where the solicitor general the obama administration the executive branch so listed. the judicial branch it argued that puerto rico under the supremacy of territorial couples of the position of a commonwealth not a bilateral that not an undue not even an unincorporated territory but eight but

eight territorial possession and the supreme court agreed and john that the problem or a good puerto rico is eighty facto colony of the united states and it cannot have its own economy. precisely i mean not only have no representation in the u.s. but this whole jones act as a colonial imperial policy essentially control as at the strangling the puerto rican economy you talk about this that a port of seventy billion dollars and growing brazenly there trump said it should be wiped out do you think there's any hope that that this may actually occur on the top administration anything that was just him blustering in a moment of excitement. or not the problem will trump is that i mean he's our president you know and i want to have some of the guy but he has the attention span of a gnat and so you never know what's coming out of you know what's going to come out of there one day to the next at the same time as treasury secretary disowned half

of what he said regarding puerto rico regarding the debt counseling debt first he supports a journal that he waived for ten days and so you know you can't this man could not be counted out except to go to puerto rico and throw bathroom tissues as if the. no a basketball player we need some more structural assurances and eventually that's going to have to come from the u.s. congress because they're the ones that have plenary jurisdiction they're the ones that have controlled this relationship for over a century. and indeed i mean right now obviously puerto rico is looking at a situation are reminiscent of what happened in haiti and almost ten years ago but essentially what haiti has yet to recover from that devastating earthquake and even though people are saying that trump's response has not been as rapid as obama's was necessarily with military personnel being deployed it wasn't as though the

reconstruction was very successful from from the u.s. approach and now i think you're going to look more towards private investors companies like tesla same they might they would be willing to rebuild the the grid in private companies coming in but what do you think are the most important steps that can be made to actually reconstruct puerto rico and after this complete devastation. you know what it is it's a mind you it's very it's a delicate balance because you need all hands on deck and at the same time there's a possibility of children force what i mean by that is this big will keep the public private partnerships but it will remain to be paid piece fives public private partnerships all the plunder puerto rico example is p r twenty two and p r five it's the most profitable fire ways on the island are basically under ownership of goldman sachs an op ed piece or ration under a thirty five year lease where the projected revenue profits are going to be close

to two billion dollars for them over the next thirty five years so these public private partnerships they come in like a lamb but they go out there and land of the will to land slowly because they can they can actually commandeer the public infrastructure for retail and so that if. it's a very real concern because the course area air fields highways bridges schools hospitals even the princes the entire public infrastructure of puerto rico kennedy literally up for grabs right now and. if what there needs to be in addition to a is a sort of a mixture of some capital access and some measure of a partnership but to much of these people three is basically going to put their hands into foreign ownership on a very long term basis what can be done is to have a permanent jones act quickly so that puerto rico can have its own shipping and

have and negotiate its own international trade relations and establish its own tri-city structure right now the fifth largest market in the world for u.s. goods is more walgreens and wal-mart per square mile in puerto rico than anywhere else on the planet and they're all coming in all those goods sold u.s. goods or be priced twenty percent higher so the jones act of asking as a an international price maybe scenario in puerto rico so one would be to have jones actually from puerto rico two is to require a stipulated reinvestment of any corporate profits that corporations are getting twenty year tax abatement deals in puerto rico where i don't pay for it interested in the capital gains that there's a many jump olson who's been property from that optic imbalance that in puerto rico and the other guy but nick prouty some have some hedge funders but if you're

getting a twenty year tax abatement deal then you should at least reinvest a small all stipulated proportion of those profits back into puerto rican infrastructure which you're using anyway as a corporation if you're using the highways the air the climate all the benefits of the that caribbean environment you should never be dry. really the best thing of it that that should happen and that should happen for whoever because what we have it is companies that come based they get a twenty year tax break they believe let and this is the cycle of boom and bust for the poor even the comedy so that the second jones act and in a negotiated stipulated reinvestment of puerto rican infrastructure or so on foreign corporations the third thing would be alternative technologies with we're either side of her and and as obviously weighted as hurricane when water and sun are a very abundant in puerto rico well those can be harnessed and those can be very profitable

very productive alternative technologies in puerto rico another is to revive the puerto rican agricultural sector in the united states when in the early one nine hundred agriculture was seventy percent of the gross national product for eco it is now point eight percent less than one percent so it's still that same island with the same fertility the same climate and libya would be on a great path of sustenance if it could revive some of that agriculture so between now the culture alternative technologies corporate reinvestment and relief from the jones act all of those are in indigenous. very very empowering or resources that can be employed in puerto rico without having to break free in the foreign capital and the pete three s. so all of those i think should be included in the mix not just have foreign investment under the guise of pete's reese. there is one source of pollution as an

existential threat to the multitude of wildlife and vironment but leave until couple of annoying surfer assault bangs to tackle this global problem and now we have a solution on our hands who are going school and return to australia it's our personal phrase there are twenty six thousand. dollars in a bid to make this seem been a reality and bring it to market with a concept that seems almost too simple to work the do a lot was looking into making every marina and by extent the oceans a cleaner place for both wildlife and humans the floating trash band consists of just sent natural fiber net and the pump that sucks in the trash and oils from the water surface and after a successful fundraising run on indigo the sea bin is finally setting out on its maiden voyage clean up england's portsmouth harbor as well as the spanish marina and the port of helsinki in finland should the sea even prove itself sea worthy and is set to hit mass market with a price tag of around four thousand dollars which may be a little pricey to use in your family pool but it's certainly

a worthy investment for a towns and cities looking for an eco friendly solution to the first litter problems it's good it's like seeing people being innovative like single individuals around the world this world be like when we travel innovation try to clean up sup a little bit you know suddenly become a shark you know make a little money off of it and know make the world a better place you know and it's affordable and it's a horrible four thousand dollars from you know a big arena like that with you know million dollar motors everywhere that's less if you have every little one have it all right everybody that is our show for today remember everyone in this world we are definitely not told your love the love story told you wall i love you i robot and i have to have a lot of people are watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night everybody.

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