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greetings and salutations we are in the heart of autumn hawk watchers and here in washington d.c. the air is crisp and the leaves are turning the same color as our president skin all four of the country's major sports leagues are in session but the real games are being played on capitol hill where the sexagenarian septa generics and octogenarians occupying congress the white house and the pentagon continue to roll the nucular dice on our nation's future but as we all know the future doesn't
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belong to the old no it belongs to the thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands of the next generation who are right now entering attending and graduated from graduating from college and universities across the land what futures they inherit is in our hands as well as their own so today let's discuss some of the biggest issues facing campus culture. like freedom of speech and the student loan debt as we begin watching the homes. at the bottom. like you that i got. this. week. and welcome everybody to watch the entire world one
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target and i'm tabitha wallace and signing us today and not our former hispanic star as food strategist and spokesperson for donald trump's campaign two thousand and sixteen salvatore lost for the fifth and founder of draft bernie for a people's party. thank you both for joining us great to be here. to be here all right i want to start with the issue of free speech on college campuses that's been building up for quite a while but but ever ever since last years with the election it seems to have exploded in the public view this was i was talking about people getting people going in protest of protesters getting around a big circle now it appears to largely him on a bottle basically between conservative students on the right wing activist backing against the more progressive subs abilities of college administrator administrator and most of the student bodies mikkel start with you the progressive movement usually championed civil liberties liberties but many conservatives are now arguing
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that they are being sun certain shut out of public debate especially in universities do you see this as a problematic position for progressive would apply themselves and get the tough balance because the supreme court has carved out one thing from our freedom of speech and that is speech that hate speech is not qualify as freedom of speech but at the same time of course universities are supposed to be areas of great dialogue you know this is where if we didn't have the freedom of speech then we would never have had ideas like abolition or women's suffrage you know child labor laws take root and so you know it's a difficult decision it's a balance but it's one that society needs to come to and it reflects advance to be able to say that those things are kind of not acceptable speech while at the same time saying that this needs to be you know a place for dialogue so this like safe you know free speech zones that that kind of
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idea i think is offensive you know because really the entire country's free speech zone it's universe salahi's what makes it a right those words are the sort of carving out of hate speech sort of put everyone in a really bad position because ultimately it's going to be a politically motivated ad i mean there is the obvious things that we know. no but if there's a political motivation as a progressive how is that. is that a progressive ideal to say well we're going to carve out this kind of speech and make it specific when it isn't something that's just right see that's the danger is that you when you do that and you say that certain kinds of speech are not going to be tolerated whatsoever then you risk that those in power are going to be the ones that ultimately get to define what is the speech that gets to occur and that's a very that's something that very easily results in in banning things like dissent like left wing dissent so i want to get your opinion on this a lot of the. where we draw the line between free speech and those hate speech i
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think we can all agree that educational institutions should be free of you know violent real hateful directed rhetoric especially of students but but where should we draw the line and who does get to draw the line between what we should consider you know violent aggressive hate speech you know free speech and someone's values are so mature and their point political point of view. exactly i think that's the debate we need to have and that's that's i think where all of this tension is coming from and why this is such a hot topic is because the people deciding this are the very liberal and progressive college administrators professors and whoever else it's not a you know student decision it's not anything that's federally regulated at this point and so that is what we have to look at is who gets to make these decisions and are they good for the students and right now it's the liberal progressive administrators and that's not fair to the students who don't hold those same opinions and want to have their speakers on campus and what we're seeing is that
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anything that a republican says if you're even remotely tied to the republican party or conservatives whatsoever anything you have to say is going to be hate speech and therefore you're not allowed and that's the issue i think that's making this so controversial why people are getting so upset about it can i ask you this over to rick is i feel like this is part of that resistance where when we try to resist something that we feel is you know an ideal or something that's going too far we want to ban it we want to make a rule against it. is that from a republican from a conservative point of view is that helpful to just make more world laws about something or make more rules about it since you can't make a rule to make people talk things out. is making people like how from a conservative point of view how do you look at that. exactly and of course that we're not promoting more legislation i would say but it's there has to be a line somewhere i mean it's
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a constitutional right the first amendment and so i think that is where you're going to see some legal battles in these students these groups have the right to come on campus and speak as long as they go through the right been years so it's going to be just in forcing those and making sure that colleges respect the first amendment and aren't trampling on anyone you know one thing that's interesting is during the election donald trump really didn't go around like bernie sanders or hillary clinton really pander to young voters during the primary or during the general election he one time in ohio and spoke specifically to college students and they gave applause to let's you know take here student loans in dealing with other things like the economy and bringing back jobs for the louse applause he got was free speech on college campuses i mean they clapped for probably five minutes when he brought that up and so i think this is a really important issue for young voters and it's an issue that's not going to go away until we you know allow that freedom back on college campuses for everybody and it goes in other ways because you know one campus can say well we can't leave
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groups and one campus could be we don't want conservative groups or whatever and so it really is one of the things where i think millennial is and jack sers are going to be a lot that are at that dialogue baby boomers are a bit of a mars then head over to know what to do on the student debt student that's a really big one it's reported that currently the u.s. alone is carrying about one point three trillion dollars of student loan debt just a little bit with forty four million citizens holding student loan debt under that and that means that the average student will graduate what about thirty seven thousand dollars worth of student loan debt just hanging around their necks. again albatross. so i would like to ask you first where do trump millennial sit on the issue of student is there a private industry answer to this problem. i think we're always going to promote the private industry in competition bringing down the cost of education i think probably people bernie sanders supporters and us are a little more aligned we are not going to promote free college that will not work it will not help education in this country bring us from you know the bottom of the
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deck in the developed world to the top so what we have to look at and what trump is hopefully going to do once we get through some of these other big obstacles such as health care and taxes is we're going to look at the cost of education the reason the cost of education is so high in this country is because of federally subsidized student loans anyone can go on and i did it i took out a lot of loans for dental school and it adds up in college campuses over the last twenty years have increased their tuition rates by over seven hundred percent it's absolutely insane and so what we have to do is we have to stop this corrupt cycle between higher education in the federal government and congress where they're allowed to keep raising their tuition no matter what because they know students are going to go in take out those loans just to complete college because that's what we're told to do so we need to reform at that level absolutely nick bernie sanders is pushing for as you said to listen free public colleges which that's
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a scary thought just free school for everybody not like it's a tough it's a tough road so is that going to be enough to solve the problem turning forward bernese joined by about two thirds of americans in that view free public college should now be the land and in fact it was it was basically the norm in the united states fifty years ago for college to be free in the united states you know and you can think of just the incredible increase in wealth and productivity that has happened since then i mean it's it's apps. possible to do what once again not just that but throughout europe and in most developed countries o.e.c.d. countries they have some form of free public college as well so there's no reason that we as the richest country in the world can't do it not just that but it's also as bernie sanders has pointed out it's more of a requisite now than it was back then to have a college education to have higher education to be able to compete and so if we want to be able to compete you know globally retain this position in which we've
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been slipping educationally in terms of standards outcomes then that's what we need to do we need to join the rest of the developed world in doing that we only go one minute left and i want to ask you both because of the good you know it's great to have a kind of two young minds on the panel who don't fall into the kind of old constructs of how to do politics but if you could cut one thing from the federal budget what would you do real quick we'll go over by the minutes what one thing that yeah so ok it would be the military budget i mean the amount that was increased the democrats gave trump even more than he asked for they gave eighty billion over four five billion forty seven billion is what it would have taken to make for the public college here's some of the senate so if you could call one major just taxpayer sucking fame from the federal budget what would it be. that's a tough one i would like to reduce a lot of them i would i think i would cuts. at this point medicaid you know interesting interesting are will solid job loss of food thank you for coming on
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with a round up from always a pleasure to have you on your toes a great always a pleasure awesome awesome work both of you look forward to having you back they do . feel like that didn't you. don't be naive sweetie this is just how it works just be cool. those are just a few of the things that powerful men have said to me over my twenty plus years working in the film and television industry things they said after putting their hands on me without their print without my permission or propositioning from first sex in exchange for help with my career and the one time i actually reported a physical assault by one of those powerful men of entertainment and event that took place in full view of my boss and coworkers i was told to just let it go that
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making an issue of it making the issue of an assault would be far worse on me than on him but this week it looks like the old school of locker room talk and dinosaur behavior is beginning to spit out its final death rattle we've seen bill o'reilly revealed to be the predator that he is r. kelly can't hide from his past sexual crimes or not be hounded about his current ones roger ailes has been ousted in the relevant ben affleck even prove the hypocrisy of calling out a predator when he himself has groped at least two workers on camera you have turned out to just be another dirty old man bill cosby roy price now lee harvey weinstein and casey affleck have all been brought to task the terror and humiliation of being a victim of sexual misconduct has not abated in the last few decades but it's actually gotten worse we fear wearing the wrong shirt to the office because it might be taken as an invitation to us so we laugh it off to keep from crying screaming or writing our abusers today though and i'm happy to report that the
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culture of rape and harassment is on notice thanks to countless brave women and men who decided that being cool about it just wasn't there will have many more the powerful men that have threatened careers if their rocks are not properly managed are no longer in the shadows we see you we know your names we know your crimes we know your friends we know your colleagues we know what you did and it's only. matter of time before all of that power that you have been violating people with comes right back at you because it is a silence in the face of sexual assault no rassmann especially in the workplace. we're all to laugh it off next time we are going to shatter your world crush your dreams and take from you when you've taken from all of us power and will use it to take back our own. as we go to break watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered of facebook and twitter see our poll shows that
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are dot com coming up sean stone talks to the notorious drug runner barry seal were drawn to the filmmaker daniel and then we preview this week's edition of we're back to the night state to. mark twain said it's easier to rule people than to mince them they've been fooled that could be why america is so divided because people have been fed the fake news paid for by corporate interests they beat you down until you believe they're very. well here's a story for you it's called. and it's for those that. have a gross over one hundred million dollars so far the tom cruise blockbuster american
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made relates the story of a legendary get largely unknown gentleman named barry seal as you may or more likely not know barry seal was an absolutely average seeming small time pilot born in baton rouge louisiana in one nine hundred eighty six he was assassinated on the side of a highway in the very same city on the orders of pablo escobar carved out to believe hollywood the incredible story of everything in between is the stuff of american made out in theaters of this very moment. not all of it at least according to daniel hobson are a journalist and author who has researched everything related to barry seal from start to finish how sick are finds that as expected much of this startling story is glossed over and also as expected the missing details are the ones that the seals cia employers more closely to our political system and the crime seal helped put in motion daniel joined sunstone earlier and here says take on the fictionalized very . well bird seal was one of the most important.
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covert operatives of the us in the time of the bay of pigs ok. and yet this movie has the cia first learning about him when they see that he successfully smuggling cigars from cuba into the u.s. it was like the test focused what would make this guy a bad guy a naughty guy but not a bad guy in our audiences mind ok so smoking cigars i mean six years earlier he had been busted on the runway in shreveport louisiana with thirteen thousand five hundred pounds of c. four plastic explosive. on his way to mexico so there's a big difference between thirteen thousand five hundred pounds of plastic explosives and smoke and cigars and think. and here you think they have casing is what
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makes these. yeah this guy. the director doug lehman is the son of the house majority counsel to the kerry commission that looked into iran contra they never got to the bottom of the contra cocaine thing but but his dad was generally looked upon as a good guy but i do research into personally he's the guy that made oliver north famous ok it was it was as a result of his inept questioning that oliver north became america's hero and then i find out that this guy his father also was a personal attorney for henry kissinger personal attorney for robert becka personal attorney for michael milken and the list goes on and you know we have a mutual friend out in oregon who has told me that he thinks. american jealousy the cia is really is a multi-generational cult and you know here you've got like
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a father and son both attempting to accomplish the same the same objective which is to make barry seal seem like a one off. you know kind of a wild and crazy guy when in fact barry seal was just a clown caught in a machine and when he was assassinated in one thousand nine hundred six the machine rumbled on you know without any wood with no slowdown at all and still rumbles on today and so that's why what we're talking about the drug trade is the biggest untold issue and in it's deliberately it's not it's not it's not focused on in the world ok because this is the biggest. the biggest business in the world or the second or third biggest business and the fact is the simple fact is that drug smuggling drug trafficking. is state sponsored crime. in every country in
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this world where there is a significant drug market. the importation of drugs and into that market is controlled by the same people who control that country to that country and we have no problem understanding this when we read about one hundred in general being busted or the president of argentina being busted for like smuggling drugs or on her plane or something but when it comes to the us it's like we don't do that that's the big lie that there are no american drug smugglers right also a bit more about his origins because he even you discovered was basically training with david ferrie and lee harvey oswald and the civil air patrol i believe when he was a young man. which is why. this guy making movie schools young the true story barry seal is so odd because i've documented his life back to before the bay of pigs barry c.e.o. was recruited by david ferrie. my goodness you no one can forget david ferrie from
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your from your dad's movie. i just same civil air patrol summer camp in louisiana that was attended by lee harvey oswald. back in one thousand and fifty fifty five. so they come out they come out of the same class. barry seal was flying guns into the mountains of cuba when we were supporting fidel castro well before before i began investigating barry seal i had no idea that the cia had ever had ever supported fidel castro and yet indeed we did we flew guns to him when he was in the mountains before you go and barry seal was flying that route. and barry still fluid the bay of pigs. to redact or not to redact that is the question faced by many a poor government working stiff who is on paid overtime in the freedom of
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information office it is also a question of the politically astute comedy loving mind every friday night with the premiere of yet another new episode of redacted tonight you know should i stay in and watch that new episode of redacted tonight order or should i go to my bowling alley back alley tender date good hard questions that people are faced with should i stay or should i go well here to help you make that difficult choice and many others are the amazingly awesome arbitrator's of claudia reductive corresponds to natalie mcgill and they only care about. me i can answer as you can do both you know on your tender bowling day and then you can watch her back to us and i knew i like that i think it's a great idea there's no i'm saying yes that is act right. and there's bowling alley alley back alley and watch it out there man i love it i don't actually. so tell us what your the fearless leader in your camp you know what
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his soft spoken eloquence heartfelt observation of the world this week what does he have to whisper to us soft spoken really describes what. you know so this week he talks about how all the different all the different types of people who have a right to be upset with our corporate controlled government that's gotten their freedoms and our rights through legalized discrimination and destruction over environment so people immigrants women. community who are still list kind of number and so just regular angry people resent it i mean it is true i have no right. to say more or less and i don't really want a lot less with the twelve enters another. and so yes we talked about how all these groups have the shared common bond of being screwed and that they all need to band together to create a country that's available for everyone and so in this clip lee talks about why
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animal activists should ban together with everyone as well. if you care about animals you should be with are a group of angry people we have the most disgusting factory forming horrors contrie calf's and piglets kept in cages for their entire lives that aren't big enough to turn around in would do is employ do that just to make sure that when it's their turn to be bacon they welcome it because dad the boy was like a doctor assisted suicide is like crazy to me. and as if that wasn't bad enough now every hipster is making sub sort of orders with bacon sprinkled on it is breakin shot good bacon ice cream bacon flavored condoms you put. yes. like put the anal back in order to use an old. aunty half of pig's everywhere.
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i can start i hope your suspenders good cause renders your good mood i mean. you already did chocolate isn't that hedonistic adolfo you really have to sprinkle some pig on top. and wait wait by the way where are the christians on all the factory farming ha it's god's creation it's the lord's work they tell us and then we slaughter the lord's word chop it up and stuff it down or basis even when we're not hungry. yeah. i love bacon but i don't like. any of those weird bacon products i think that's weird it was a gas that. he had that he bought that to place before we got to just you know about our lives you know what i was screwed up by i heard you basically were looking at the high school dropouts this week what did you find besides. your
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. terrible sense. so there are states that are pouring a ton of tax money into private for profit drop out recovery schools so this is where public schools stand kids who are on the verge of dropping out have high absenteeism rates and so on yet records are showing that kids are not showing up the class there's little accountability if you even make sure that these kids are going there but private businesses that run these schools are kind of gaming the system because they're counting these kids attending when they really weren't they're using kids to the kids themselves to recruit other kids so they can keep the tax money to keep the schools running and some of these schools are being run a certain schools which we expect raised so there are some other spirited graft pretty much sums up the yes. some activity is actually a lot of men at sony i mean what's awesome are not going to jail for the two thousand they are paying your fine for the two thousand a banking crisis they're fragile and man yes you may have heard j.p.
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morgan chase paid their fine with phony mortgages so they were allowed to get financial relief credit from the government in order to pay their fine and so what happened was they were just forgiving mortgages that they didn't actually own anymore and that they already had sold and so people get these letters like your debt is canceled her a and it turns out they still had a mortgage just somebody else owned it and no longer belong to j.p. morgan goes up to charlotte. eight times and they're going to the stores just like this yeah right i don't wanna. get out but i promise you that as long as we're back where we're there is every pride in our to america and we're back to live free ip which there's exclusive interviews and panels every thursday on our t.v. america there with her body that will be always a pleasure to have you on average i learned the rules of our show them that they remember everyone in this world we are told that we love the love so i tell you all
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i love you. i am i robot that's happened while watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and everybody. called the field we go through. every the world should experience. and you'll get it on the you'll roll. the world according to a gesture. welcome to my world come along for the. larry king dog is a broad city. and along a glacier ilana you recently suggested you should wear diapers on my car. i
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have to tell you that this season is alan selling good this season is so good and so funny i think we sort of like got this comedy rhythm of ours going and just in case anybody has any leakage or looseness i just want to because thirty readings and out you know enough to get up if you want me i'll do ok that's ok i'm jewish i said yeah i just said it would be it makes me a great family member he would you be a great family member that i could punish you know that's right who has some secret to the city well the reality. it's not funny that's right. the reality of day by day thing after thing now it's not funny at all interests and i lent larry king at this stage yeah this is a big. strap on. a we have it it's all strong.

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