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see. the world bank. sent us an e-mail. an iraqi operation in the city is a declaration of war say kurdish forces in control. struggle for territory. in the country. also coming up president refuses to clarify whether his region is the independence from. spain. for self-determination. a famous. seeking information on donald trump to get him impeached with a reward of ten million dollars. even. in the washington post.
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right around the world this hour welcome to moscow and to our to international i'm going to. your company our top story on the rocky operation against the kurdish hell city of kirkuk has been called a flagrant declaration of war by the kurdish peshmerga forces early today sent its troops into the. kurdistan. i. tensions when more than ninety percent of kurds who cast ballots in an independence
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referendum last month voted to leave iraq baghdad strongly oppose the election saying it was illegal however kurdish officials say they will push to breakaway. memorandum during the meeting with the president of the kurdistan region and we will send it back that we refuse to cancel the results of the referendum and we're ready for unconditional. well as you might expect the latest move by iraq has seen mixed reaction from the international community the u.s. sais it believes what is happening to be a misunderstanding and that it's a series of coordinated movements not attacks moscow the united nations also released statements saying the situation in kirk is concerning it's also seen
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turkey move quickly to close all flights to and from iraqi kurdistan. kurdish military forces terrorists. meanwhile in london pro kurdish activists are gathering in front of the iraqi embassy to protest the military operation incur cook some of them even tried to smash windows and doors at the. well here the speaker of the iraqi parliament described the situation in kirk. one. the situation on the ground is constantly developing we're calling in both the iraqi government and the kurdish autonomous region to show reserve this in solving their problems we support the presence of the army and control of a certain facilities but any actions or resistance might lead to a confrontation which in turn will seriously affect safety and stability. a little commentator focusing on the region high walls men explain the major sticking points
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between baghdad and the current. cook has always been a place where it was a flashpoint in the issues between baghdad and the kurds throughout history whether it was back then during the various civil uses whatever there was a negotiation between the creative movement and the iraqi government care who was always the sticking point the former regimes the iraqi regime try to other buys cooked and by expelling all the kurds and bringing in their places this is on one hand on the other hand it's a kurd who became really part of the rhetoric the fact that it is rich has. made the problem bigger. for the. for the for both sides could but we're still to see how it's going to do and with with critical today because
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it's not just an issue of of oil today it is an issue of establishing central government control versus having the kurds be present to the city. the president of catalonia know has until thursday to definitively state whether the region is going ahead with attempts to break away from spain a deadline set by madrid for a yes or no answer a lobster earlier on monday but the council on leaders still refused to clarify their position and the leaders in madrid are pushing for a response annoyed i'm with if it wasn't difficult for him to say yes are now on declaring independence it was a very easy question with a very easy answer catalonia has until a second deadline on thursday for mr pidgen montt to give a clear response which citizens are waiting for and which the rule of law requires . well it was in response to a four page letter from the cattle on leader to the spanish pm requesting talks and
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then end to government pressure we heard from not only done by computer analyst in barcelona this morning here in catalonia the capital and president puts demand has issued in response to disband its government and he was asked to clarify whether he had declared or not independence by ten am just morning and he has issued a response in form of a letter urged catalan in the spanish government to sit down and dialogue but he hasn't per se specified whether or not he declared independence and this is the statement that he issued to prime minister mariano rajoy our first request is to stop the repression of the people and the government of catalonia our second request is to meet as soon as possible to come to an agreement i didn't do it as a demonstration of weakness but as an honest proposal to find the solution to the relationship between the spanish states and catalonia which has been tense for many
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years this morning we just heard back from spanish deputy prime minister where she's urging the catalan government to directly answer whether they have or haven't declare independence and there's been a new deadline given which is this her stay at ten am and if this clear answer isn't provided she said that the spanish government will go ahead and activate article one hundred fifty five of the constitution which would suspend the autonomous region of kut the loony and let's see the events that followed this past two weeks. all those of us here as well i say to people that they should be absolutely assured that the guy. vermont is going to block any independence declaration that might be expressed that a few disagreed with the law but you cannot disobey the law if you disobey the law
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to become an outlaw. you know the sort of catalan future is still very much on certain people here in the region are still waiting to hear from either the spanish or to catalan government whether it's going to be a constructive dialogue happening between the two parts or catalans themselves have mixed feelings about their president's actions with his strategy still unclear. it's what one has to do and one to them to be clear and he's let's and he said the same thing as in his speech he declared independence and then suspended it. i think it was dumb to gain time to see at least if they decide to talk. he's
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threatening hundreds. i don't know but i think that once and for all the time should be clarifying enough ambiguity claimed a victim from cattle and did not have to stress and depression based pain but i think they'll just be shadowboxing till thursday he will say we do not believe that madrid has the right to tell us to be. independent for the sole focus of madrid therefore we want to be listening to madrid and that way he'll buy himself more time and hope for some solution but it is a difficult situation for him because he can row back very far without committing political suicide in fact becoming a lame duck president of his regional government despite he will continue to maintain the calls that this is as it is the legal process that. the regional government is unilaterally embarked. austrian voters have made
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a clear shift to the right course to put the world's youngest leader in office thirty one year old sebastian kurt is poised to become chancellor after his center right people's party thirty one percent of the vote he could form a coalition with the right wing freedom party which gained some twenty seven percent of its leader heinz christians traquair on the left of your screen here seemed almost as jubilant as the winner when the first results came in both parties agree on tightening austria's borders on toughening up immigration both gave similar promises on how to deal with. the high today is our chance to take over the reins in this country and make sure there's a real change in austria. when someone says the can be more of the same i say no we insist on a much needed and lasting change the big question i have for austria is what kind of coalition will form the next government trying to answer some of that from vienna policy or. sébastien could see is likely to become an extensive staff
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as media of the people's party has given no indication he will in fact will miss polish what he has said that he will talk with everyone all options are open now there are various scenarios of course being played out on the one hand you could have a coalition between the people's party and the social democrats this does seem highly unlikely because this has been dubbed the do it escape or straight is history and this is largely because these two large parties have been able charges of espionage and racial incitement against each other the supposed need in the freedom party to form a coalition with sébastien that what it would mean is that you would have a white government now this would be a huge blow to the european union it would also be a strong vote against in the book politics but it's it would be constant also all the same we see happening across europe where more and more voters of those white.
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vivre the full say we've got to do. all of the arts is that. the now many european leaders had the course already congratulated could he will become europe's youngest and leader and i think talking to people here on the street there is a state that these election results were predicted they certainly match the polls mike you can see behind it still. the same. thing of the problems with the refugees of course members of the main reason for the growing run your. problems. with the immigrations or worse. in the newspaper. debate the. ritu used to waltz very in was
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over a percentage into the action campaign. because it's it's some people and i would say maybe half of talk in the actual painted walls was about the right she things so. yeah but definitely it was something where the right wing parties came to look to gain votes of votes we've been seeing reaction on what occurred yesterday including from the austrian institute for european policy on security in vienna their president believes it was sebastian kurtz's tough stance on immigration that won him the election. he was responsible already for closing as we call it the western balkans the route that led from turkey. to germany to scandinavia he was to one who are organizing that this route for illegal migrants became closed and since then. the number of
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migrants decreased very much and then. he will not only be able but he proved already that he will be able to do something because this also was more or less to cornerstone of a politics that was overtaken also by european union and even by until america even if she did not like this very much at the beginning. to the middle east where the syrian army is clearing the remaining pockets of terrorists in terrorism or province having repelled most of us law mixtape from the city of dean now its hard become the terror group stronghold after they largely deserted their former one in rock out r t got rare access to. many residents there had fled before isel was finally driven out they described how they risked their lives escaping after losing everything to the islamist homes and
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belongings were scenes during idol's brutal reign there but guided alimony i was jailed for six days for smoking a cigarette a rest would be made if they even smell tobacco they also had a so-called morality police known as the his if i shaved they would tell me for that. i was arrested twice because of the length of my beard they would torture me cut me and feed me rotten food on another occasion i was jailed for wearing trousers instead of the jail a beer their garments. similar stories are heard right across syria and house lead to residents themselves fighting back women in the city of. our one example of that .
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when the. sound. of it that is on the horn. this also had bomb on you. and i did the business. that i may have been money made to. look at me. and that because. no one i've been to the model been and how did you miss it i mean you can because he did his own. meanwhile local officials say some islamic state fighters have fled their former defunct over aka a great deal brokered by u.s.
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forces washington supported the arrangement saying it would help to minimize civilian casualties however goes against america's earlier stultz on the removal of terrorists who get explain. as the push against iceland syria's rocka enters the final stage the coalition backed authorities in the city and seemingly eisel have reached an agreement to evacuate rocca the u.s. led coalition released a statement praising the chance to help minimize civilian casualties while also stressing that it of course wasn't party to the discussions as part of the deal people departing rocko were subject to searches and screaming by the syrian democratic forces who the u.s. supports but interestingly as the statement puts it the agreement purportedly excluded for an i saw fighter. is leaving the city and while nothing is said about syria and i saw fighters the coalition this weekend at the end that is it is against any terrorists justice we do not condone any arrangement that allows divers
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terrorists to escape without facing justice only to resurface somewhere else. terrorists have been hiding behind women children for three years and we are against any arrangement that lets them continue to do so so how do you endorse a deal that does exactly that a local official reported that even some foreign islamic state fighters had in fact fled the city during the evacuation those supposedly excluded from the agreement and what about that part about no more hiding behind women and children well and s t f spokesperson came forward with the information that a group of isis fighters had left the city dragging innocent civilians with them as human shields now the problem is what can be done about the terrorists who already left rocka the us to broker the evacuation agreement but their statement does confirm that they know about and supported the move which allowed for certain jihad is to leave freely will they now hunt them down and kill them but such support from the coalition apparently has its limits just two months ago when damascus came to a similar deal for both civilians and i saw fighters to cross into eastern syria
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washington used the same exact lines but condemned the move he says is a global threat relocating terrorists from one place to another for someone else to deal with is not a lasting solution to. the coalition was not involved in the discussions that led to the arrangement but believes it will save innocent lives so perhaps that's not the deal itself but who is cutting it that washington objects to after all means to gather all of iraq as civil console issued a statement denying allegations that foreign fighters have left the city it also said there were no foreigners among those who surrendered to the syrian ever more states. a week. operation inherent result for comment they again. the arrangement was made by local tribes and not they would be against any agreement that allowed eisel to surface elsewhere but contributor for monitor dot com ali risk believes it reveals america's double standards when it comes to
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brokering deals in the region a bearing in mind that in the border region between in syria when the deal took place the number of isis fighters was a lot smaller the number of isis fighters which we have been sort of presumably of the those who fled call are a much much higher number. to that for the fact that. can lead on syrian border area and not a case where the lives of lebanese soldiers you know the deal was made to uncover the fate of these soldiers whose families had to wait been waiting for years to see what exactly happened to them all those conditions one person in this particular case which we see today in the car so i think that once again reveals the double standards which we have gotten very much accustomed to what a car was so america's policy in the region. the war of words between the u.s.
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media and donald trump has taken another turn after the washington post published the plea of a famous adult film maker who is offering ten million dollars for essentially dirt on the president well joining me live to discuss this further no. i said we are a lot of cash being thrown down as we just heard it's certainly got people's attention how can it tell us more. well the not so loving affair between donald trump and the mainstream media has taken yet another turn taking turns sniping at each other trump went from calling them fake news to very fake news. i mean i've got to give you a question you speak out or you are shaking dues attacking our network i just want to ask you sir i'm changing it from fake news now doesn't that under a very fake to this i know but aren't you. now it's been almost a year since trump a shocking victory but he's still making headlines for the wrong reasons even if
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he's not directly involved and even today the media continues to retaliate against trump with stories of his alleged incompetence administration leaks and any shred of dirt they can dig up and in the latest the highly regarded outlet washington post has published this ad a paid for by adult filmmaker and staunch clinton supporter larry flynt flynt who is offering ten million dollars to anyone with a smoking gun that would help impeach trump but this isn't the first time flints pulled this same stunt apparently he's have the grudge against he's have this grudge against the president for quite some time now during the campaign he offered a million dollar reward for any incriminating video or audio of trump behaving inappropriately towards women but we all remember the audio recording of trump bragging about his treatment of women from back in two thousand and five and even that wasn't enough to stop him from winning the election but it's with no love lost between trump in the media regardless of who's digging up the dirt the extent the
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media has gone to by publishing one story after another still just too good to resist bring us right up to date from america's capital cities from your account thank you. russian foreign minister sergey lavrov has warned of retaliation if r.t. is forced to register as a foreign agent in the u.s. he said american news on its operating in russia will have to do the same if the restrictions are put into practice artie's killam open just for. the much pressure to register as a foreign agent in the united states if such a move towards him on the against the most means you. will have to retaliate applying the same restrictions in american outlets that separates in russia. against those which are being fined the taxpayer's money now there are currently three news outlets that. fit into that category outlined by lab rob in his remarks and these three outlets have received notices from the russian government about
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similar measures being taken against them about a possible response to what's being done to see if she is forced to register under the foreign agents registration act this could affect the way it operates in the united states the transcripts of interviews could be turned over i'm required to be turned over to the government furthermore the personal information of employees could also become disclosed in a matter of public record turned over to government officials it's also important to note that in a recent report from twitter artie's advertising its legitimately purchased advertising on twitter was somehow equated with with bots and false accounts and other information in this twitter report so a lot of questions are being raised but we have heard from russia's foreign minister that if this unwanted attention pressure on our t. continues similar measures could be taken against these three networks operating in russia. no more than
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a dozen pharmaceutical firms are being taken to court in the u.s. state of michigan over marketing which accusers say is worsening people's opioid addiction. in the street has taken a page out of big playbook they utilize misleading information income pains and studies to convince the public that their product was safe we believe the human cost in the financial cost to the counties is significant we think that some compensation is necessary for bad behavior. in all over one hundred thousand people in the u.s. died from overdosing on prescription opioids between one thousand nine hundred nine and twenty fifteen last year alone there were eight hundred and seventeen drug related deaths in michigan's wayne county that's a sixty one percent increase year on year while deaths in oakland county increased more than two hundred percent in recent times one opioid pain medication is used to treat moderate to severe discomfort it's highly addictive and has the same
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potential as more fame abuse along with misuse can a fatal consequences for do has made billions of dollars by fueling washington's. these drug companies knew that what they were saying was wrong. or we've been in touch with the drugs firms industries made it clear that they close lee comply with all current federal and state regulations when it comes to the medications in question we also got a response from purdue pharma which denies all the allegations they out of there looking forward to defending their position a former spokesperson for the white house national drug policy office thinks it's the combined fault of not only the companies but also the doctors who over prescribe. the companies have contributed a lot in terms of deception in terms of letting people think that these are only
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pain killers when they are addiction producers but it's not only on the marketers it's not only on the companies it's also on the doctors the doctors have overprescribed in many cases about a quarter of the usage of opiates abuse and deaths are because doctors have overprescribed and not paid any attention to where the drugs are going so a lot has to be done there but you know this isn't just a doctor's problem it isn't just a marketing problem it isn't just a manufacturers problem it's a national production problem and a worldwide production problem. our news update for this hour looks more updates from right across the globe in thirty minutes and stay with r.t. .
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time after time to say we're going underground when you have a day that the iraqi army launched the attack to retake mosul when the one year old residents attempt to rebuild their lives and it's the rubble of nato wars that killed wounded or displaced millions across the region coming up in the show for a grand old flight school buddies to socialism and them a government over britain's response to what could be a looming u.k. usa aerospace trade war and with a camera and one that did a k forty seven in the other we speak to a rocky filmmaker. about his new film the journey and being kidnapped and beaten by al qaeda and u.s.
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forces all the more coming up in today's going underground but first today x. goldman sachs and the governor of the bank of england mark carney gives evidence to britain's parliament or to jobs is just handed out first there is sylvana ten re row who will be able to vote on whether u.k. homeowners have to pay more for their mortgages this autumn and if you thought her work as we know in britain leaving the european union you could arguably be wrong here she is talking about the risks and rewards not of bricks it but even close the union of the twenty eight member e.u. when it comes to neo liberal financial institutions. more investment which is one of the objectives of the capital markets negative people are thinking through the cup at the market we have to consider. what we need to. put in place in the event of a crisis yes that new n.b.c. member is a remain a probably who until recently was analyzing prospects for more u.k. integration in the e.u. not less as for the deputy governor that mark carney will today be announcing
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a britain's treasury select committee his name is david ramsden he is what he said when asked whether he had been preparing economic forecasts for brics it's on the tenth anniversary of his advice to the labor government not to join the euro this is the first time i've spoken in public about the euro ten years or. so i think i'll probably. take that lloyd to fail so maybe i'll have to wait ten years before he tells you about bank of england preparations for brics it what we do know is that errors in british official statistics mean a leaky bank of england is preparing britain for higher interest rates in a fortnight what will that do given british unsecured household debt now stands at two hundred three billion pounds on credit cards cough finance overdraft and other loans is anyone's guess one of the devolved them is in the eye. f. which usually gets its focus hopelessly wrong says britain faces the prospect of another financial crisis well joining me now is conservative peer lord flight the
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former deputy chair of the u.k. conservative party how credible is trey's amaze prime minister obviously credibility has been stated damaged but i think that there's a sort of view of members of the party that leave her alone to get on with bricks it and we'll look at whatever changes we might make closer to the next general election where you favor a w.t. you rules based into the one i want on saying is that i i think the the e.u. is simply trying to get as much money out of us as they can for some form of free trade deal which they benefit from more than us and you know i'm feeling pretty fed up with that and there's no danger for them to do so but basically i think our best strategy quite soon he's going to be yes a we've had enough gave a deputy here i think she understands the w.t. you and the apartment she should be beings or she should be being properly advised
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by a civil servants let's face it a movement of civil servants going on in white school from having davis to number ten at the moment but you're presumably at least pleased that she said the free market is the greatest agent of collective human progress of a great and about time absolutely right and you look at all the figures and. it's amazing how free trade has got rid of poverty absolute dramatic and you think anyone seriously doubts that statement yes i mean you've got in the states and here politicians arguing to do things which are anti free trade which are protectionist absolutely crackpot and it's pretty simple doctrine why people haven't understood it i don't know but it dissolved job to preach it and i suppose. what dan had of his you know has set up a free trade institute and has actually got a lot of real heavies involved in that mess and i've been involved with it and i
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went to the launch this week but we haven't proven this labor party agrees with that too but says we have to rejig the free trade environment no it has obviously been the great just agent of i think he doesn't know what he's talking about i mean he is he is basically putting forward socialist arguments forty years ago when i was city and all my contemporaries were here this sort of garbage. i mean this is absolutely off on favor it's a long way to be that what i mean what is absolute garbage in that what raises people out of poverty it is better economic growth now if this country could grow that two and a half three percent per annum we would solve the issue of the younger generation being landed with too much debt if we go down policies that he's advocating like wilson and heath in the seventy's our growth will disappear and your generation
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will be loaded with masses of debt you can't afford to repay why do you think these old sort of favor to be the next prime minister that people all sure because we messed up the last general election campaign and actually it's a wrong reaction to the very point i'm making which is the younger generation of fear feeling there is a disadvantage to the older generation and that if they they understood the issues they would see what i've just said which is the best way of alleviating that is foster economic growth foster economic growth can be achieved by free market policies if you have socialist policies you grind the whole thing to a halt anyone's going to argue against all chipper nerdy lism in the innovation and so on isn't it a response to the twenty eight crash a kind of contempt for the final. services industry i mean i understand the job for others on this program saying these negotiations of
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a break they've been sold out to goldman sachs that they're trying to create a city bricks which helps the game elites in brussels and really well to some extent yes that's correct but i'd make a slightly tangent point which is that what was the real cause of it was actually clinton implementing socialist policies in the u.s. by obliging banks to give mortgages to people who weren't in a position to service those mortgages and then the concealing the facts of what he was doing by mixing up the mortgages in a whole bundle of other things guess who did know what she was that it was the bailout said it i mean you don't think the eight in if you had to bail you had you had no choice but to bella buy one let them go to the wall because you the crash the whole economy if you don that would have that money being put into infrastructural spending right and let the city as you just could absolutely look if you are allow banks to fail the whole economy dries up because it depends
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upon the oil the flow of money so you simply cannot allow the mame banks to crash ok but i mean the colony the governor the bank of england is a funny enough. alumina as luminous as it were it is obvious that figures like him and figures in the city are against bricks do you not believe that they are lobbying to water down britain's bricks that. some of them are yes in their own interests i mean the single market is in reality it's a protected market for log the logs only go pally. business is the logical company financial service businesses you won't find many small businesses go to top of the single market at all no i think it's a be fair i do think carty is in the path of goldman sachs but he's thinking over the career he's thinking he's going to reflect his his history. but i mean other than these hidden forces in the midst british elites right now that are trying to
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overturn the will of the british people when they voted for brics which is the question which at the state mandated b.b.c. i mean i think that i mean you know jacob riis mol did most of the city debates on breaks it speaking in favor breaks it and i must have done about twenty debates and i have been a great supporter of breaks it for a long time because i don't think we fit within the you know of the values that want to stay i did say it's a mixture there question a lot of people who were in the remain camp who've except for the referendum and wants to get on with it is in the house of lords or people you mean standing thomas and in the city even though there are some that still hoping to fight a rear guard action and maybe stop us sitting i don't think that they will succeed and i don't actually think there are enough of them either to be able to succeed but i do think that saudi government needs to get its act together and get
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a move on people are getting fidgety getting the british public fully understanding these debates because the idea lengths of bias against a b.b.c. for being a really simple do you want to stay or do you don't want to stay in. the reasons for stay or leave we know what they're all there three or four big issues and some people feel strongly i want to see yourself on another i happen to feel strongly that you know we spent. a thousand years executed a monarchy in favor of having a democratic system and i'm not going to accept being told what to do by second rate people that aren't even democratically accountable thank you very much ok but labour's conference will one of its largest in its history you are a radical old fashioned radical they were talking you know the stuff be they were talking when i was twenty what's your view and p.f. are you a charity secretary of the treasury around the time the blair and brown were doing this correct and the only you back call been on one with all of them completely
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incompetent play i mean you back or recall the principle of peer fi is is actually sensible which is you well sourced building things the private sector you need to do it on a contract which. is appropriate now the the great mistake that governments made was doing things on a contract that wasn't appropriate and they got screwed as a result so i mean you the people you blame there is brown basically it's brown and second rate people in the treasury allowed wrong contracts to be executed and what's happened is not telling you that outsourcing is wrong it's telling you that outsourcing spin dumb all over expensive contracts just finally how stable is trey's of may and her uneasy arguably coalition with the do you mean she's. certainly the in the papers it's reported that she wants to go for another term
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will to resume be running the conservative party next year or of the brics as well who knows i mean i think the general perception is let things settle down. let her . get on with leading breaks in negotiations and as we get closer to another election. the position will then need to be considered i think there. this it expectation that. there will be but a necessary to the case but that's what i think most people expect thank you thank you after the break we speak to an iraqi refugee filmmaker who was captured. and u.s. forces risking his life to keep iraq's film industry independent. decision
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to start the process. is a big deal is this the path toward still another war also the so-called brushy gate scandal takes a bizarre turn it's almost impossible to believe. still exist. ricos treated as one. of. the islanders controlled by the u.s. government. crave independence.
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still many do wish to join the u.s. . leave every day. with the country at a crossroads the island is on the rise. welcome back one year ago today the u.s. backed iraqi army launched their offensive on the northern iraqi city of mosul formerly a stronghold for isis die ashers like millions killed wounded or displaced by
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nature wars in the middle east the so-called liberation of mosul has reportedly left nine out of ten major hospitals destroyed most residential areas have been demolished and more than forty thousand civilians apparently killed next guest has seen the devastation in mosul firsthand model there are these new film the journey though humanizes a phrase thrown around in the mainstream media as it looks into the root causes of the reality of suicide bombing it's just been showcased at this year's london be a five film festival moment thanks so much for coming on you know the phrase i know the phrase viewers will know the phrase it's a suicide bomber is of. such a dismissive. why did you choose to make a film to transform our understanding of that phrase you know most of you i didn't choose it in the usual levy story to use me through to come to this and i was in bag in baghdad in two thousand and eight preparing for my second feature film sun i
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bought it on and i opened the newspaper and i see this article with a picture of about seventeen years old female how to close being taken off and that is a policeman and i can put his men thought to tell clout to take the vest of the suicide bomber off happens and the stories about this gail. five minutes before the bomb go off she come to him and she says she's supposed to bomb the police station she come to the police people say and i have only five minutes left help me to get the bomb off from me and thus stories shock me i never thought about a female to be a suicide bomber i never thought about a female to be a bomb you know and then i start to think about it and then i mark and make my research and i find out until two thousand and ten was more than two hundred fifty female suicide bombers i didn't get it i didn't get us muhammad it archey because i never thought about a female or woman like my mother my sister being on could be my girlfriend to be
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to be a suicide bomber you know and then i had bought my first and second draft and to be honest with you it was against them because i hated them because they destroyed my i can't leave my nation my people my friend my mom i lost family members because of the suicide bomber. and then one day i met this female gayle i went to the iraqi. prison for sympathize been captured by the iraqi army like a police and i met this girl and she was beautiful astonishing girl twenty years old you know very smart very clever and she was talking with me and talking with me and i looked out and she said he would be you know i felt wait a minute i'm doing a film about a suicide bomber but i'm not having give them any think so i started to look to the subject in different way and because you know since two thousand and one since
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september eleventh and here this big titles for what i get to resume or again extremism and then the status change now again is. extremism in islam you know and where we are now two thousand and seventeen and look to us everywhere in london and baghdad in syria. and. then you think you can replace the women. by. this film human is ordinary iraqis baghdad railway station the children tell me about the children in the film because they look like they could be bogus children in the british station under a sturdy britain we are going through a difficult time but we have a beautiful human being we have we have normal life and we have a normal activity and we have normal joy and we are looking forward to to have
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a joy in life you know those children and you know i always make a film about women and children because they're out of the victim of the war that they're victim of the corporation that i did the victim of i say that the victim of the corruption in government and all of liberated by britain and america is how we learn of on the road we don't. nobody knew about a copyright for three nor the two thousand and three world as a corporation we don't call it a that but i don't think that i don't call it liberation i made films not about the pricing because capital is destroyed. understand we. should. be doing i mean. i grew us because we know even. in demonizing trump is the u.s.
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military or something to support. you choose to portray the u.s. military in baghdad as ignorant. and clearly out of their depth let alone cruel way in the way you know the soldiers that they have it on the base in the real character but i make it personal as mohamed with my first feature film in two thousand and four i was to sit by the american put in prison for seven days accusing that i'm doing a propaganda film for the american the american army yeah and then and then that was a guy called michael ware that you were with al qaeda the american military thought yeah i mean because i was i was that was my other three members of the make up the sound guy and all about using that we are doing. in the film but wasn't seventeenth of december two thousand and four and. they were put on the bit in the green zone area and i had this guy michael he's the guard and it was in his chicken os you
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know they took your clothes off and you know he you made it to you in a way and that was seventeenth of december and they big put me in the prison you know be to call your clothes off and then this guy he's. he's checking me and then he speak with his colleague and i have a very good shoes you know i bought from a mr. and he say and i'm not going to swear but he say swearing you know he said look to this mother. he have expensive shoes he stole it from somewhere and i looked him i am naked you know and i said to him i didn't start it i bought for most of them and this soldier he stuff her off harsh but then he become my friend he speak with me english he to smuggle for me cigarettes some time you know he smuggle for me to consume and he become human being by the and so in the film you seen this aragon do not have for our father's you know he said don't touch any cultural and you know brutalized mortal eyes you know and he said. and then he
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called his wife and he called his daughter in the single her out a song to sing a song for his daughter and then he told the iraqi of the iraqi baby that the shut up as a believes in britain we hear that they're isolated cases obviously that was the brutal torture and killing by british soldiers in basra. so they're isolated. using this film does give us a sense that actually the general treatment of ordinary iraqis by these big americans with their military equipment the iraqi people didn't really appreciate it very much i mean look be allowed to people we had we were living under a dictatorship for thirty five years and then britain supported when britain support of course we don't well i mean if we go to the store to be supported for ages in years during the iraqi and iranian war they support him in on a lot of way you know they build for him the nuclear weapon they pulled all this
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chemical weapon from where he brought it not from from saudi arabia or from from syria able to from the west you know the west was supporting him but to put us on the mend he turned again been the story we know when our bodies you know but we in two thousand and three when they came to iraq some people some iraqi think they could be a good. a good people lead good armies to help support but there was no there you know we were war that i've been if you pass the american convoy and the streets of baghdad if you come a close fifty meter one hundred meters you will be shot and i saw people being shot in front of me because they're just about to pass because maybe they need to go to the hospital or anything like that you know so that's the moment in two thousand and three in june july two thousand and three when people turn and they saw them us occupied maybe because they were humble us not really in respect full way not shown us any any and that is standard think because to be honest with you it was not any plan what happened post-war what was going to happen you know i'm just became so
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happy and the consequence of this chaos you know then you have direction you have you know all this trouble but here we are facing in iraq because they weren't there before there's one not there before because and to be honest you know what care about us honestly when you were kidnapped berg is the best card before the americans accused your yeah they accuse you of being pro-marriage. but on america a pleasure it was a film inside the film you know i was kidnapped by al qaeda in two thousand and four and then say for god in help of god and i build by the way the moment on the shoulders yeah yeah and then yeah i mean give. me the they don't they don't they don't lose time with you a lot in two thousand and four they usually do. anybody they think is disagree with him or anybody think that a pro-american reporter brought in the dock a given amount they take you one two hours and then they shoot him they throw you
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on the track going to the vet and that's what happened with us and the time because they were thinking that we are doing a proper to put out a government film and you know they question arson told by the first street they called the street was controlled by al qaeda and they were taken asking for a fast sound man and his legs and injured him and they were about to shoot us but we were lucky that the police of this time came they are on their way and we literally risked your life for independent cinema of course the brand new film would does it make you feel knowing that hollywood films its know and words work with the cia and the pentagon to make their films whereas you are attacked by every . being a filmmaker. is important i think it's important for me as an arche as mohammad is important to have the voice but be not influence you know you come from a country it could be easy to be influenced from different directions you know from
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the iraqi government or from another end of it you know but i try to keep myself as independent because i think like film like the journey is not easy to be make you know i cannot persuade a big producer or big company in america or here to make a film like that because i don't think they will see the interest that i see the us arse as mohamed out up to muslim that try to put trade. i want even though it's going to as a story of course is the i mean you know there's a thought of bellowing i mean he even met these children you can see them in the only london in new york and in anywhere in this planet you mean this is a young man in the film and you can relate to him when he go to flatten about girls and all of that it's things thirty happen and i it's my duty that i keep this voice free and worldwide i'm not influence you know and to keep myself in the band is difficult by the way it's not easy like the film take you five years of your life
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health you know just to make it just to sate but we have it now and. many people think you are now giving back to iraq even though you lived in holland for so many years what was iraq like in the bust few weeks when you visited mosul is now one year since. we're hearing about this. the atrocities on both sides in terms of the liberation from. this new phenomenon that look when i was shooting the journey in baghdad mosul was by the doors of bugged out or circled by for. you know better clothes you know and it was not easy time and when. like three weeks before the liberation of mosul. i mean michael again my friend we were thinking what can we do because you know people talking about people and population most of they are supporting isis maybe they are. part of isis you know and but you
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know some of them and we know they have normal guys has been acquired by isis for two three years you know so we felt about we make a player and a convoy called. to celebrate the aid in mosul and we were risking a verb from you know isis of your previous good living well good but anyway this is life in this is the. end there and we ended to go in with more than two hundred fifty artists and cultured people from. everywhere in iraq with eleven boss you know big boss you know on a convoy to go to more sleep and we'd go in the first thing we did we visit the university of mosul and we hundred more than twenty thousand books to the university we talk about the universities destroyed the u.s. with the image that you have of a good story and you know but the beautiful day will come from the people for most
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of them and they want it they would really like warm and happy to see asked because for three years not visited nobody come to them you know and we came from everywhere and i can come to see them and then we had a big event attended by more than fifteen thousand people have in music and shown film and have a cultural event you know in the time we did a fire walk and one mail from mass course and the brits the american aircraft and the iraqi army. isis you know it was a big event was an important event it was an important message to say. that spot of iraq that was levy the message that we can do with his hotel the rajah think they'd better and that's it for the show we'll be back on wednesday to talk about the liberal elites in the new book actualizing by the daily mail call this the best
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selling author when did that feel that people talk about social media the seal was a nine hundred sixty s. of the day of the creation of the crimea the ultimate socialist soviet republic by the russian federation. what we want is to put an end to nuclear testing and then to move towards a world free of nuclear weapons and to do that we have to bring countries who seek or who are of this ambition to understand that their national security doesn't depend on the possession of nuclear weapons.
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for. here's what people have been saying about. jack to the night was here was actually just full on awesome the only show i go out of my way to launch you know a lot of the really packs a punch. yam is the john oliver of hearty americans do the same we are apparently better than food to see people you've never heard of love back to the night my
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president of the world bank so they. really. seriously sent us an e-mail. an iraqi operation in the city. is a declaration of war kurdish forces in control. struggle for territory to spill over. on the brink of defeat. protesting against. global powers expressed concern over the situation. as president refuses to whether his region is the clearing in independence from spain that's
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a new deadline for self-determination. the famous adult film producer is seeking information. to get him impeached with a ten million dollars porton bar and even. in the washington post to spread the word. cross the world are running the world every hour of the day this is r.t. international union only welcome to the program our top story this hour on a rocky operation against the kurdish held city of being called a flagrant declaration of war by the kurdish peshmerga forces earlier today monday sent its troops into the area known as iraqi kurdistan.
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tensions spike when more than ninety percent of kurds who cast ballots in an independence referendum last month voted to leave iraq baghdad strongly opposed the election stating it was illegal however kurdish officials say they will push to break away. any. memorandum during the meeting with the president of the region and we will send it back that we refuse to cancel the results of the referendum and we're ready for unconditional dialogue with. all the latest move by iraq has seen mixed reaction from the international community the usas it believes what is happening to be a miss understanding and that it's
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a series of coordinated movements not attacks russia and the u.n. also released statements saying the situation in kirkuk is concerning it's also seeing turkey move quickly to close all flights to and from iraqi kurdistan and grow which is supporting baghdad has been critical of the kurdish push for independence saying it could destabilize the resource rich region. meanwhile in london pro kurdish activists are gathering in front of the iraqi embassy to protest the military operation in some of them trying to smash windows the doors of the building. the one always on the one. i. well here's how the speaker of the iraqi parliament described the situation in kirk. the situation on the
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ground is constantly developing we're calling on both the iraqi government and the kurdish autonomous region to show reserve in solving their problems we support the presence of the army and their control of a certain facilities but any actions or resistance might lead to a confrontation which in turn will seriously affect safety and stability. political commentator on the region highway mn explain the major sticking points between baghdad and the kurds could cook has always been a place where it was a flashpoint in issues between baghdad and the kurds throughout history whether it was back then during the various civil uses whatever there was a negotiation between the creative movement and the iraqi government care who was always the sticking point the former regimes the iraqi regime try to other buys cooked and probably all the kurds and bringing in their places this is on one hand
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on the other hand so we can really part of the rhetoric the fact that it is oil rich has. made the problem bigger. for the. for the for both sides could. but we're still to see how it's going to to and with do with today because it's not just an issue of oil today it is an issue of establishing central government control versus having the kurds be present at the city. so another of the headlines stories this hour the president of catalonia now has on till thursday to definitively state whether the region is going ahead with attempts to break away from spain a deadline set by madrid for a yes or no answer to that a lobster earlier on monday but the catalan leader still refused to clarify the position and the leaders in madrid are pushing for that response annoyed i'm with
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if it wasn't difficult for him to say yes are now on declaring independence it was a very easy question with a very easy answer catalonia has until a second deadline on thursday for mr pidgen montt to give a clear response which citizens are waiting for and which the rule of law requires . yet that part wasn't. spawn's to a four page letter from the council leader to the spanish prime minister requesting talks on an end to government pressure we got a sense from an ugly don bikers a journalist in barcelona a bite i things stand this morning here in catalonia the catalan president puts demand has issued in response to to spanish government and he was asked to clarify whether he had declared or not independence by ten am just morning and he has to shoot a response in form of a letter urged catalan in the spanish government to sit down and dialogue but he hasn't per se specified whether or not he declared independence and this is the
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statement that he issued to prime minister mariano rajoy our first request is to stop the repression of the people and the government of catalonia our second request is to meet as soon as possible to come to an agreement i didn't do it as a demonstration of weakness but as an honest proposal to find a solution to the relationship between the spanish states and catalonia which has been tense for many years this morning we just heard back from spanish deputy prime minister where she's urging the catalan government to directly answer whether they have or haven't declare independence there's been a new deadline given which is this cursory at ten am and if this clear answer isn't provided she said that the spanish government will go ahead and activate article one hundred fifty five of the constitution which would suspend the autonomous region of kut the lumia and let's see the events that followed this past two weeks .
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middleton as. well those of us here as well i say to people that they should be absolutely. sure that the government is going to block any independence declaration that might be expressed that a few disagreed with the law but you cannot disobey the law if you disobey the law you become an outlaw. you know but if you sort of catalan future is still very much on certain people here in the region are still waiting to hear from either the spanish or to catalan government whether it's going to be a constructive dialogue happening between the two parts. themselves have mixed
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feelings about their president's actions with his strategy still unclear. it's what pushes them on. the wanted him to be clear and he's let's say he said the same thing as in his speech he declared independence and then suspended it. i think it was dumb to gain time to see at least if they decide to talk. he's threatening to go hundred. but i think that once and for all the terms should be clarified enough ambiguity planed a victim from catalonia and enough of this threats and depression by spain. i think they'll just be shadow boxing day he will so we do not believe that madrid has the right to tell us to be. independent of madrid therefore we want to be listening to madrid that why he'll buy himself more time and hope for some solutions but it is
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a difficult situation for him because he can't row back very far without committing political suicide becoming a lame duck president of his regional government despite he will continue to maintain the calls that this is as it is the legal process that. the regional government is unilaterally in. the war of words between the u.s. media has taken yet another turn after the washington post published the plea of a famous adl filmmaker who's offering ten million dollars for essentially dirt on the president well joining me live to discuss this further. there we have it another day another blitz warranted or otherwise on the u.s. president. well this is just the latest turn in the not so loving affair between a donald trump and the mainstream media while taking turns sniping at each other
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trump went from calling them fake news to very fake news while the media the media continuously through including stories right back at him let's take a look. i mean i get to give you a question you speak out or you are sure you could use your network i just want to ask you sir i'm changing it from fake news though doesn't that under a very fake does i know but aren't you. now it's been almost a year since shocking victory but he's still making headlines for the wrong reasons even if he's not directly involved and even today the media continues to retaliate against trump with stories of his alleged incompetence administration leaks and any shred of dirt to make up and in the latest the highly regarded outlet washington post has published this paid for by adult filmmaker and staunch clinton supporter larry flynt who is offering ten million dollars to anyone with a smoking gun that would help impeach trump but this isn't the first time flints
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pulled this stunt apparently he's had a grudge against the president for quite some time now during the campaign he offered a one million dollar reward for incriminating video or audio of trump behaving inappropriately towards women but we all remember the audio recording of trump bragging about his treatment of women from back in two thousand and five and even that wasn't enough to stop him from winning the election but with no love lost between trump in the media regardless of who is digging up the dirt the extent the media's gone to by publishing one and story after another is just too good to resist and live from washington d.c. thank you. austrian voters have made a clear shift to the right course to put the world's youngest leader in office thirty one year old sebastian curtis is poised to become chancellor after his center right people's party thirty one percent of the vote on he could form a coalition with the right wing migrant freedom party which gained some twenty
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seven percent now its leader. on the left of your screen here seemed almost as jubilant as the winner when the first results came in both parties agree on tightening austria's borders toughening up immigration and gave similar promises on dealing with it. the high today is our chance to take over the reins in this country and make sure there's a real change in austria then when someone says the can be more of the same i say no we insist on a much needed and lasting change. so the big question now i for austria is what kind of coalition will form the next government from vienna here's paulus leader sebastian kurtz is likely to have to become an extensive staff as leader of the people's party has given no indication he will in fact in this coalition which he has said that he will talk with everyone all options are open now there are various scenarios of course being played out on the one hand you could have
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a coalition between the people's party and the social democrats this does seem highly unlikely because this has been dubbed the do it his campaign in australia's history and this is largely because these two large parties have been able charges of espionage and racial incitement against each other the supposed needs then the freedom party to form a coalition with sebastian that what it would mean is that you would have a white leaning government how this would be a huge blow to the european union it would also be a strong vote against in the book politics but it certainly would be constant also of the same we see happening across europe where more and more voters of those why . i believe the full search revealed to be. thought through. all of the articles is that. the
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now many european leaders have of course already congratulates he will become europe's youngest and leader and i think talking to people here on the street there is a state that these election results were predicted they certainly match the polls mike you can see them on. the same. thing of the problem with refugees of course. for the growing right. programs. immigration this. service or effort g.'s many people afraid to debate about the refugee issue waltz very in was over percentage in the election campaign. because it's it's some people and i would say maybe how often talk an election campaign waltz
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was about the right she things so. yeah but definitely it was something where the right wing parties came to look to gain votes of votes here we talked to the president of the austrian institute for european policy and security in vienna as well to get some reaction to this he believes it was sebastian kurtz's tough stance on immigration which won an election. he was responsible already for closing as we call it the western balkans the route that led from turkey. up to germany to scandinavia he was to one who organized that this route for illegal migrants became closed and since then. the number of migrants decreased very much and then. he will not only be able but he proved already that he will be able to do something because this also was more or less to cornerstone of
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a politics that was overtaken also by european union and even by until america even if she did not like this very much at the beginning. ok to another pressing issue of this time and of recent times gone by with islamic states suffering heavy losses in syria and iraq many children are being left behind as their parents die fighting for the terrorists r.t. has been filming children who arrived at an orphanage in iraq and the youngsters were fully aware of the cause their relatives were fighting for.
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mama mama can't. ask them out or back bad catholic. understand. came here for. my. mom only. my sister said he loved. you. didn't. they had us all just as a john of course you've got children returning to a lot of other countries in europe and further afield to the scuffs this further
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i'm happy to say we're joined live by solomon but muslim rights campaigner in chief editor of islam twenty one c. tony bugel funder and leader of mothers against radical islam. both very welcome to the program solomon can we just start with you should the rehabilitation of these orphans not at least start where they are not for instance we saw in iraq there give them resort send specialists there instead of perhaps relying on teachers in schools or other in their original countries to somehow rehabilitate. and there are . well. i think the more important thing is that these children get the psychological and psychiatric. need and they deserve these children have been suffering what we call multi multi generational. trauma with the trauma of the you know. the fathers grandfathers going back
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for thirty to forty years you know in my lifetime for example iraq as a country has seen more suffering and conflict than there has seen peace. tony some of these children as we've just been looking before we started speaking there really are so young regardless of where they were born or of lived was little or no risk does the opposite argument apply get them home as soon as possible before further damage is inflicted on them in those war stricken regions. i think depending on the age of the children i think these children what they need more than anything else they they need to be taught how to love again because i should imagine that that's something that they know very little about really no good being loved with somebody who wants to go out and a story that killing is normal i don't think. i think that the end they one thing
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we don't need western intervention i think that we need to stay with me and let the people of the country where they all do what needs to be done to protect those children and to make sure that each and every one of them is taught to love taught to trust again taught right from wrong these at least from what i can hear in the background are very very young children then not too late to save in my opinion but if we're talking fourteen fifteen sixteen then. personally i don't know how you can divide it lies that in fact i don't believe that you can. there are many potential her. i was told he was alluding to there for rehabilitation not least financing i suppose and who's going to take responsibility when they come back to the countries . well i think we have a moral obligation a duty now to help fix. the damage the last thing damage in the legacy of our intervention and of previous governments. claim to be acting on
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our behalf i'm glad to say you know most people i think now want in the western world justify the horrific iraq wars and the so-called genocidal sanctions put on iraq. top u.n. diplomats in the one nine hundred ninety s. they called it but the. apologies aren't enough we have to try and fix the mess we've created in a in an evidence based in a moderate way and not with bullets bombs and carpet bombing and drone strikes and so on and so forth we need twenty seven i agree we need to give them love we need to teach them. how to love again. i suppose tony that aspect finding a family for the children what would be a good start in securing a solid foundation a good future for them. i don't know where it necessarily has to be
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a family as such right now what doesn't give them the love songs they get that love i would say that i don't think that we can you know straight away go all you know western intervention is to blame for this isis is to blame for this extremism is to blame for this the parents who were extreme in their beliefs are to blame for this this isn't you know i didn't write a colossus children i didn't teach the children that their parents were martyrs but isn't my doing in that is a western intervention doing that was a doing of those who were extreme according to the world. pair of course is western intervention that was the catalyst for all of the well the west are always to blame . mode just when the when we happen to decimate the country you know we have to we have to we have a moral responsibility to pick up the pieces and at least. help the innocent people i don't think is our responsibility these children look our i will grant you the
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innocent children like this who didn't know or asked to be involved in this they did know also to be involved in any condit extreme behavior they they certainly do need a lot of love and they need to be taught right from wrong and raised in a manner only i don't really think it matters who gives them that lot i don't think it has to be particularly. islamic communities it could be a christian family i don't think it matters so long as the child is locked so i don't really see how that's relevant but this constant to ing and fro in foreign policy let's blame it on her foreign policy it's almost like you're not willing to take responsibility within your own communities for the fact there is one. that is why. that's why we need to write our own or say we own your our own foreign policy which we can't just bury our heads in the sand. i mean and we can't just blame
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a lot of searches of look at the effect just an imaginary threat you know of of immigration and heightened threat of terrorism has done it's not an imaginary threat it is i can't. imagine immigration is that. only it's like a rising to the rise of far right and so forth over here in america if they are calmly and we're talking about and children ages four or in. let me just bring up here i cynical if you like my interest of body and when children ok ok ok well you . selman. right before we went to a little bit of of the children and they went into the orphanage that r t was art they knew all the words that were really very all faith in what they were dealing with what they saw their parents doing they knew what they wanted their parents to do can children like that actually be rehabilitated in
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a normal way or is it going to be there so extremely. problematic that they're going to need a lot of help and a lot of time a lot of specialist care. this is the point of into the generational trauma you know if we look at. the last effect on black communities today of the slave trade of jews after the holocaust of so many different types of suffering it actually is inherited in a way to the subsequent generations in things from from just in a psychological way and even in way that people are you know predisposed now to to you know certain pathological types of behavior so it has to be taken into consideration with. you know as in
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a sympathetic empathetic tony to take account of. these children we are talking with separate issues here really aren't we the trauma of war and potential radicalism which do you feel should be dealt with first. i think that the first thing you've got to deal with in my opinion is that we have to deal with the fact that radicalization is happening all over the country and one thing that sound one way your very good to say you know western intervention and the west are to blame is what you are really saying in the so-called rise of the. right and anybody who may or may not feel fear of radicalization it's almost as if you don't want to take any responsibility when it comes to the fact that you have the verses of the sword strike the neck of the unbeliever kill the unbeliever this is what the children have been taught those on the right don't there is no good love in this is what children are taught that's one of these children saying you want to take it back why what you're going to is it's got nothing to do with that
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you tell me while children taught their children why are there. the thought that because when people are under threat of being wiped out then the people who talk the toughest game they rise to prominence in such a society as i was about to explain like here when people think that immigrants are stealing their jobs then. immigration far right parties you know come to the fore and rally people around them if people have been destroyed if you want to keep bringing this back to many immigration in that you really want to bring in if you like to him out there you're sheeple who are alone. you are sentiment those people are going to come to the fore those people are going to gain prominence because they're talking so what you're saying in your haven't either no policies all russian out in the course to your rational soundman what you're saying is that children in the area on the ground day that were killed by by
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a terrorist extremist radicalized muslim that what those parents should do you couldn't blame them if they now came out and became violent because they'd be justified in their actions you cannot take what you see we're doing here is can you know the exact not exist is between not except i don't move a logical. white i'm a moral just i didn't. listen and i'm just showing you you because you're building a joy you must play on a foundation here. i'm trying to i want to change that really in your firm as racially and i think that's very shaky and that's very shaky ground it's very. the difference between. claiming maine and what had happened here fair in the middle ages mining it morally. so i think you did just justify it because you just admit it children are being diverse is that the sort they are taught we're talking baby why why we're talking one year old why i didn't teach them the why should you ask your community why those verses aren't really maybe then you would actually be
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americanized to talk. coming to the end of our time here but i just want to get the thoughts of both of you we got about thirty seconds each just to try and conclude islamic state ok we know they're known for recruiting training children from a young age if ever defeated what is the best way to rehabilitate the likely thousands of children back into societies throughout europe and other nations tony to you first. would have been a long obviously where the children originate from that's the first thing if they're born in that country it's got to be those countries and their governments that tape responsibility for paying out and getting those children the help they need and quite frankly i don't want to see any child i don't care what child is i don't care who is child and i want to see any child radicalized i don't want to see them growing up with that kind of hatred i don't want to see any child go through that and obviously we do need to do whatever we can do but there are moral compass
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is not only on the west it just isn't someone we've got twenty seconds. for these children we need to first hold them and put them out of immediate danger and then. in cold create a strong sense of identity in them as m i five report in two thousand and eight suggested and confirmed a world grounded islamic identity religious identity is actually a fire war a preventative measure to political divide. more of it right now ok. tell me about this right muslim rights campaigner in chief editor of islam twenty one so young tony bugles finder and leader of mothers against radical islam we thank you both for coming on the program. was. and i'll be back in half an hour's time with more global news here r.t. .
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hello and welcome across town for all things considered i'm peter lavelle donald trump's decision to start the process two and the iran nuclear deal is a big deal is this the path toward still another war also the so-called russia gate scandal takes a bizarre turn it's almost impossible to believe. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have extra leverage he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and of course we have dmitri bobbitt he's a political analyst with sputnik international regimen as always cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated i want to continue because we've talked about it last week donald trump has started
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the move to walk away from the iran deal but none of us are surprised by that it was widely expected but did you how he did it did surprise me a little bit. on social media e-mail s.m.s. is while the president was speaking i was receiving amazing number of messages saying peter how is it possible that the president of the united states is saying what he's saying because factually speaking it is odd odds with reality because you know we're moving towards a new two thousand and three moment when europe russia other nations including the middle east are opposed to a conflagration that the u.s. is building towards and there are very very few countries that support that. israel . some countries in the persian go israel saudi arabia the united arab and to the speech to. congress surely it was. full of such
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as you think he. supports. you know what well here's the thing that i see is the is our. radical. sunni ridiculous really and to them iran and the shia are not just us the its. enemy is that they have to be destroyed in the interesting thing that will use if we look at you know it when you bring up the issue of. fighting isis and all that i mean in iran wouldn't be doing this in iraq if it hadn't been for the illegal invasion of iraq in two thousand and three going back to your point in this moment is two thousand and three women want to know is this this asked the obvious question here is this the drive to war i think it is indeed a a first baby step in that direction softening everybody first of what has to be said that this refusal to certify what is the iranian
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nuclear agency review i mean this is an american and this is american legislation passed by congress in order to support and to check to put a leverage on obama's negotiation of this deal with the p five plus one plus others inherited yes. i think it's a first step towards war and one of the first indications of that to me is the usual neo cons in the commentary in the think tanks immediately perked up their heads and said oh maybe it's a pretty low bar but everything trump said seems incredibly reasonable on this to me that this was a shot at me. as soon as that is the first whiff of possible. they are coming right out and suddenly discover this reality is they're saying that . it was reasonable and foreign policy that's what i worry here the the the problem
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with this is of course. and it happens with american presidents it's always the domestic audience here but there are other signatories to this agreement and the iranians have made it very clear that they're not going to renegotiate this at all and the european american european allies or they actually went to washington and petitioned trump and his function is not to start walking up with the european union is not their own protection in they just said the united states can't destroy this agreement because it was an agreement between iran and you know all we need to museums that they want in the same changes ok this is going to be the strategy isn't it the u.s. walks away from it and then any other country obviously not including iran because i would be a different set of sanctions they would start sanctioning european companies do you mean with the absolutely very very counterproductive for the u.s. in a number of ways first of all the relations that there is atlantic relationship is
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not in the best shape anyway system came to power in the us second of all their willingness for the us to. come away from expected agreements and attempt to change them by force you know it seriously impacts on american reputation for their future and their protection of american diplomacy because if you don't some fishel washington is called to this official washington actually care about that the moving the goalposts changing the rules in the middle of the game well i mean if you take care american diplomats have to care about because american power is not in a session anymore they understand the understand that their power is declining in that even now right now it's not. nothing ten years twenty years right now it's in decline in they have to understand that they do understand that the reputation of these states as a broker is a diplomatic broker in the world with it it concerns the far east and the future of
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the korean peninsula whether it considers other areas of the middle east of which they make these are doing this walk that makes a deal with north korea almost. exactly what i think it's a good thing what is going on strangely because the stupidity of this is so astounding that finally it can bring a good result because what's going on is indeed every petition all the iraq story but on a much greater scale i mean the incompetence over george bush jr is nothing compared to the incompetence of trump so in that sense i'm not a bad actor but through much a debatable point i'm going to have small going to the big lebowski you know i think it goes well for our literary analysis here it is if you have a thought he was incompetent and time wasting nitwit they will write this. all that great can't get probably right politico is cut came out and said that nikki haley her fingerprints on this speech what do you think my life may be nikki
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haley speech for new york and speechwriters had a finger in it but i seriously doubt whether nikki haley the former real estate account. hole said to r t the nikki haley's experience in foreign affairs was a few visits to the international house of pancakes i might use for i wish i had said. that's agreed so that might be stretching it but this speech was obviously bellicosity it does more than just question the us is reliability as a partner europe had an eight year honeymoon with obama and to be fair if this was hillary clinton leading this decertification they would probably be getting in line for it but it is trump and they need to be there reminded again after george bush now again with trumpet. every four years they face the prospect of being. stuck with a us that they simply can't at least values wise aligned with but more than that
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this is a big threat once again the u.s. is the world's biggest problem with anti-proliferation nuclear proliferation efforts around the world they keep sabotaging this again we saw libya we saw iraq saddam hussein we're seeing this occur with north korea and now with iran iran comes to the deal with a civilian nuclear program and under blackmail from the obama regime it agrees to this this nuclear deal but they came to the table now what are other countries going to draw from this that if you even try to enter into negotiations the u.s. has no good faith in these negotiations. with the p five plus one with the u.n. security council the international atomic energy agency germany france the u.k. china and russia all agreeing that iran is in full compliance ok with all the.
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markets absolutely but who benefits from what trump said look who is in it is there any beneficiary is really going to ok first of all back to your question about politico that the politico has of that next to can go it's well known that is not. tillerson and he has criticized him openly said that he's talked and he is and you can hail he's positioning yourself to take a seat at the state of the state a perfectly good pomp and. she's looking for you know the sort of more you know being used as a wedge and so it's a way of promoting here for this position doesn't mean she's going to get it it doesn't mean that she has computers as mark said but this is this is a way to. two. way of promoting here now as far as beneficiaries of term again it's several countries in the middle east first and foremost as
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though it's saudi arabia and some other girl from other kids. see iran as their main adversary. and certainly some parts of the american national security establishment and they're either tied to those the interests of those countries and let's remember some are tied to the interests of foreign. nations for and ways of the us and some that we're going to benefit from for them from the war itself one from the arms that would be the interesting thing is looking at cable television in the us is that it's another stick to beat russia will be backed up by the russians i kept hearing that over and over again well that's true. to what degree is it true russia has signed the agreement like the europeans did in the americans in the iranians and they're respecting the parallel with russia is that they have no evidence on the run just like they have no evidence about russia getting involved
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in the american elections they have no evidence that iran has ever supported terrorist strikes including strikes against these so i'm not even sure israel would benefit from these kind of think that the israeli they's right here in the chaos at least rein i think that's a big point more than anything stablish meant you know these radio hawks might benefit people like net and yup all but israel wants to be a dominant military force in the region that's true ok but you know that is not been the strongest one of them is not creating any ms you don't have a displeased you know that you have iraq now that is strongly aligned with iran and syria also i mean all the way up to israel's border all the way up to the goal of the occupied golan heights he really started he is just a complete mystery to be always. fails yzerman we're going to go to a short period later here can you were discussion on some state.
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what we want is to put an end to nuclear testing and then to move towards a world free of nuclear weapons and to do that we have to bring countries who see all who of this to understand that their national security doesn't depend on the possession of a weapon. welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok gentlemen well into the year of investigative investigations and reports and
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suspicions and allegations and i could go on and on about russia gate here we have a new twist to c.n.n. breaking new ground here mark this pokémon go which i really don't have a great idea what that is when apparently. this is a game that you can play an app and the russians captured controlled it in flipped elections apparently you know this is this is where russia gate jumps the shark consortium news dot com i think it's. what we have here out of this report actually originated in c.n.n. money of of all places which has been kind of a breeding ground for these are for these ridiculous russia good stories and what we literally have quote russian linked poky mongo quote tentacles unquote. out of a quote shadowy troll yeah you know i mean of course this is blowing up
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in their faces entirely the internet just. you know reacted with complete mockery goal or putin right now on the back to be could true with his shirt off and everything about it does it actually discredit the whole russia gates nori has been tremendously deceptively tells me again i'm sick and tired of this because i'm tired tired of talking about allegations and there are no facts to talk about but picture this is the state of journalism this is the sad state of journalism here where you know i mean the alternative media is criticised for click bait and trying to get eyeballs and i mean this is the model of companies like c.n.n. i mean just click bait mindless stories that have no basis in reality or meaningful reality there's another angle to it. been you know one of the reasons they're saying this and they've connected this book in my story to racial strife in the u.s. to. my answer to. what are they trying to do with this
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they're trying to see. still it is in the u.s. still is between the. ages and partly it's. because not so much by issues but because the russians or the chinese or somebody else is stalking it but it you know it's you know it's you that people know i mean go out in their thousands in washington d.c. and baltimore in new york in l.a. another american cities they know full well they're there not because russia or somebody else is going on them to do so they're not doing it because somebody is using book a month at this. town do it to get them there it's not just a ridiculous it's it's a terrorist well it's not to say that it's nothing new in the nineteenth sixty's the f.b.i. says. beared the civil rights movement and martin luther king as communist agents
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this is an old cold war and hard to know there was actually you know this is this is an old cold war card replayed for that matter who idea but the interesting thing is that you know the these ridiculous conspiracy theories x. is the explanation for the failure. of the western political elites it is the failure of mainstream media is that you know the entire approach neo liberalism of the last forty years has created the conditions that we have on the great ground right now they just don't want to take responsibility for it must be somebody else's fault well the problem is that they have to go further and further they can't get back i mean the expression in that washington post. that might help the senate can make it to get to the bottom or what have front in the rush inquiry and of course one of those have to do with the russian. it has nothing to do with the elections and what that shows how it's my job and defending experience of the.
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president makes pression for you bottom i think getting to the bottom of the russian woman there was no russian involvement you know what imo it is that. simply and americans now they have to go through something that serbs and many other nations have gone through before serbs were told many times you could meet that gripes your are they criminals all the books prove us show us the video that's no the senator said the senator said that you are criminals because i will and media says it so now americans have to go through the same ordeal that the serbs and. clearly clinton says it's true there is only going to be a shift in my or subcommittee of the coast and they are just. doing this to say for years and. go to the baltimore with. the switch gears a little bit. unesco the united states announced that it's going to be leaving this
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cultural organization israel as well here and it seems to me again looking at their rationale for it i'm not a big fan of u.n. organization this went a lot of money ok but this is one of the more they do better mostly what you have to do you can see the evidence of their work i've seen a lot of the stuff around the world that they invested money and protected but it seems it seems to me that the u.s. and israel are withdrawing from it because you know sco respects the rule of law and international law and i think it's very very clear it's this is it's kind of exceptionalism meets international law and this is where the breakdown it is it is pretty much just contempt for international law and it has to be said one of the better aspects of international law is you know something that you can hardly find fault with it's pretty hard to understand even the rationale but it can only be celebrated this is this the u.s. and israel pulling out of this and it has to be said that the day after they did
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the first jewish french jewish was elected the head of your nasco so that you know that brings in the question there but this only decreases the u.s. standing it shows their contempt for dealing with any international body it's not as i remember when i said it was only hard if they were actually is normally part of it they were only part of the the media angle and to make sure that they could spin that i was i was at the headquarters and that was the only they showed up one person. to keep an eye on the show with all the other issues a cultural war the u.s. had already withdrawn from so it was there for political reasons will come to this is all because of you know asco support of palestine right. this past week could be called you know the ultimate i mean because really friendship week it started with . the revolutionary guards corps the iranian revolutionary guards corps a terrorist organization it's part of the iranian army by it. that you would be calling me officially a terrorist organization it proceeded with
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a synchronized the exit of the u.s. and israel from going there and it ended with. a speech. against iran israel saudi arabia i mean this is a menards of twelve of epic proportions. i think it's. going to talk about. let's not forget the united states supports the ukrainian regime which destroys cultural cooperation between ukraine and russia the way i don't follow them so of books actually all the books from russia that brays what they call aggressive country russia what kind of cultural co-operation can you talk about if they let the states and the ewald support such a regime how israel supports cultural. peroration with the arabs we all know specially in gaza that places like that so i think it would be you were being you know awful to believe that they're going to because if they support the regime
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which imports cultural sanctions what we see against russia right now what we see what was sore against serbia what was sore against syria these were in fact cultural sanctions you know they're like they're mad men believe me all of the cultural things that have been destroyed in syria with you know the lack six years here or a gentleman or beseeches look at the. money that was spent or had gentlemen i want to i want to move on with. what what's on your mind my own story from each one of you in the time we have left the in syria the implementation of this austin our agreement turkey has moved military forces into al qaeda occupied. under escort of al-qaeda i mean it's called a little bit on the b.b.c. and c.n.n. right now no they're not reporting it very well but i mean you do you will find references to it this is and certainly all the experts in the area other journalists tweeting amongst themselves or commenting on it. this is all i hear it all sean this is the latest alias of al qaeda they are firmly in control of
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provinces it's a jihadi paradise there and turkey which was illegally armed trained in south you know these these and other jihadi proxies for the last six years the answer is not to fight al qaeda but under al qaeda escort to take up positions against the kurdish camps and afrin and this is a complete violation of the austin argument the syrian government has called for turkey to get out turkey meanwhile in the other area they control in north central syria is setting up turkish government post offices urging doesn't play well you need serious staging the tribes you know one of the things that you know again looking at the mainstream. cheering on trump defeating isis in syria and iraq i find it is really just down doing. the heavy lifting that russia has been involved in the last couple of years gets no airtime at all it's all the credit is given to the i think sarah weeks ago which took to the start every time there is
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a war and the u.s. centers at some point down the united states declares itself the victor and we seeing that today again so we could predict that several years when the crisis in syria is going to end and. you know articles books are going to be written about it people are going to find stuff about it in textbooks what are they going to eat in the u.s. what are they going to eat in london or in canada or in or in france they're going to eat that was the. kenyan. everyone in the in the save the everyone both of my says in the film it's sort of you know system says that the iran supports this well it was from isis and from iran and from other but at the end it will not really is that isis would never have been in iraq or in syria without iranian help. well for me the more to study and you will support and also. and by the russian defense ministry that while everyone was afraid of russian
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troops participating in the military exercise and that would lead you to a yes two thousand and seventeen. point the united states increased that brigade that is stationed in point basically to the size of it thank you division in russian troops which means all u.s. tanks from colorado in the steps. forward trade next to the russian border if we will at that at the number of we actually have a bold need to troops right on the border with russia don't forget four thousand nato troops now stationed in the black sea in all. but the story line is that russia is being aggressive towards nato russia is being aggressive towards needed by moving to within its own that's threatening to gentle the russians not very. many thanks my guest here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to argue see you next time and remember across.
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