in russia from the winter olympics of twenty eighteen syria chan's iraq athletes won't go there. and what is being done to fix the situation are you in direct contact with me i see with. this. this is a layered question so let me start with the seventeen agencies you mentioned and there is this organization which was created by seventeen anti-doping agencies to help national anti-doping bodies with educational programs establishing certain standards that kind of thing and if so by the statement you mentioned they clearly overstepped their mandate it's up to international and national sports federations and the i.o.c. to oversee the development of sports so what they saying is just their personal opinion accordingly we don't really bait soo much attention to that i think they should mind their own business and stick to the things they're supposed to be doing but at the capitol when. there is no real threat no there is no real threat i could

even tell you that after the statement the seventy nine tied up against his made water president craig reedie commented on the situation saying that those people really overstepped their limits and as far as p.r. charring is concerned our athletes are preparing for the olympics world championship competitions and different sports are now taking place as well and we're participating so at this point we don't have any doubts that our team will take part in the olympics. no the let's go quizzing is that an accusation is always louder than the rebuttal so how ever clean our athletes might be there is still an after a chase is easier for the world press to just write all russian athletes cheat i mean so we have the public opinion and then there were sport just how do you make yourself heard here which at the venue is true well that's why we're having this conversation today with you and that's why i have to meet with international

organizations and it's an international conferences explaining our position of course we're concerned about the situation but we don't really overreact we do our best to work constructively with our partners the international olympic committee and different international federations and water as well but then we talk to him and they hear us because we've known each other for a long time i was on the water foundation board for four years i know the directors of all these organizations and yes there's a certain difference of opinion but i see it rather as a challenge something we just need to work out when the. bottle be made up of a couple examples of athletes from different countries who got caught using dope and came up with very creative explanations to scare from norway theories joe hockey and she sat that doping got into her system through ten english american runner job roberts he says well you know i kissed a girl and that's how i got it but you know how i only had to serve two months of

suspension and the runner just got away with it but in our case to reaction is really harsh against russian athletes and there is no rock solid proof can we say outright that wada is biased. no i would not say that i would not say what is biased however i would like to see one standard applied to everybody. the usual situation is that when there is an incident than a separate commission is formed in the incident is investigated individually so what we would like to see is commissions and investigations and every individual case every time there should be some regulation about that and i've repeatedly spoken about this when i was on the foundation board of water so i don't want to talk about bias but there are situations like the ones you mentioned i mean there was a similar case when a hockey player claimed he only kissed a girl and she was some kind of us can cream and that's how something got into

a system there are situations like that you would expect athletes to say when they get caught they always try to come up with some kind of explanation but we have plenty of problems of our own so frankly i don't want to discuss other people's problems problem with you. as a look why has started ninety six case against our efforts those are our problems already ninety five of these cases went nowhere for the lack of definite proof of guilt light such as shaky proof cost so much damage. that's what we've been saying all along we always say that there should be personal liability for athletes each incident should be properly investigated we always say that we're willing to provide all the data available to us and that's what we're doing with all our federations work with their international counterparts providing them with all the documents and all the data required so we have the situation now where ninety five of our athletes have been cleared you know well actually we still don't even know their names and if the ask who those athletes are but we didn't get

an answer but he of course we're happy that they've been cleared and we believe that this is the way to go to investigate each incident individually the brother. in we're going to come back to the individual investigations but our. to ask you about the russian and doping agency which is slowly beginning to operate again under international supervision when will it become fully functional and independent if you have sat in march that it will happen in november that is like very soon. which goes to show currently the russian anti-doping agency has been declared non compliant with the water code it essentially has been operating as a regular anti-doping agency since may. what this means is that it has been in charge of planning testing of educational programs and investigations of course you caught us still a sister doping officers as they've been doing for the past eighteen months left to international experts working at risotto but essentially the agency is fully

independent organizationally as well as financially. tobar we had a thorough audit done by wada all the data was sent to the water complaints commission which will meet in october twenty fourth to review the status of the russian anti-doping agency and then they'll send the recriminations to the water foundation board which will meet in november and that's when the final decision on compliance with the bot of coal will be made if in fact that is not the only untie doping agency that has been declared noncompliance i think there are about seven agencies like that doesn't mean though that our athletes are unable to compete or to be tested a little that we all compete and they're all being tested by rosado or by their federations so we're really have to worry because we know that all of our athletes are being properly tested. college well you know this and that more and that why hass to keep the requirements of russia first is to acknowledge that the mclaren doping report is accurate and second is to show that jumping through hoops that are at the moment in the hands of the russian law enforcement are you ready to go along

with those demands that they went in they just. as soon as the mclaren report came out we responded immediately first to replace the presidents of the federations in question there were some high profile cases were placed a number of a. in charge of anti-doping policies at the ministry of sports also we started reforming the russian anti-doping agency and the entitled being lab which has now been transferred to moscow state university in the the russian law enforcement immediately launched a probe which is still under way so you might say we didn't ignore them atlanta report the report itself is very complex there's a lot of data in it and immediately after its release the i.o.c. set up two commissions many federations are conducting their own investigations as well so we have received this information and we agree with some of the issues raised in the report and with some others we don't agree with it but i can tell it clearly we have never had a state sponsored doping system in russia which is the primary accusation in the

report we have never had any institutional conspiracy so we have made that the problem is there and we're working on it as you know the government has adopted a set of measures to reform our anti-doping policies in other words the government is now directly involved in this work so we will present our position and all the data shortly before the compliance commission meets with its as far samples are concerned like i said the law enforcement probe is underway investigators are questioning witnesses and performing tests and samples are being used as evidence so the can't be released right now the investigation is led by an independent body and i don't even know when they're going to finish but once it is completed it is quite possible that a decision will be made to hand over the samples so there's nothing i can say at this point like i said it's not up to the ministry of sports but it's. let them say that let's agree to mclaren sat there russians refused to talk to him what do you have to say to that. well actually i personally met with

klein about a year ago and heads of the russian olympic committee and the independent anti-doping commission has also met with him and we have complied with all requests for information not just from mclaren but also from wada and we're continuing to do so working with the two i.o.c. commissions as well so i would disagree with mcclaren on this we have never refused to meet him on the contrary we kept inviting him as far as i know the russian investigative committee formally requested information from a cleric and his sources. but you know let's talk a bit about the i.o.c. which is actually taking at peacemaking position so to speak is looking for some kind of compromise the anti-doping organization and counterpoint are taking the harsh stance calling for sanctions blanket bands etc why is are such a difference in approach and can the i.o.c. help russia somehow which. i wouldn't really compare these two organizations you

know because they have completely different. you know. those two organizations they do decide something here. well the international olympic committee organizes dealing the games and of course the i.o.c. wants to see harmony and integrity in the olympic movement but i wouldn't say that the i.o.c. defense us or takes our side that is not entirely true that the i.o.c. is conducting an unbiased investigation of the information it received from the mclaren reports that mclaren in any case will be. able to have rush hour not out of feeling they do you have the power to talk russia if they want to. within the middle of the block well we don't really need help we want an objective investigation into every fact mentioned in the report were fully complying with all their demands but we support the idea of individual not collective responsibility of every athlete every coach must be responsible for their own actions and

decisions so say it again we don't need help for saying we are working with the international olympic committee and we're submitting all the data they ask for and just recently alexander for gov met with mr schmidt and answered all the questions the commission had for us we. are incorporation with commissioner schmidt as well of course you cannot imagine the volume of documents we have submitted to the commission we support the work and we're positive but that they're responsible and highly professional people just. take a break right now while we're back we'll continue discussing russia's anti-doping efforts with russia's sports minister. stay with us.

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other competitions that are not part of the international paralympic committee roster even participated in world championships five people have qualified for the paralympic curling team in september the international paralympic committee decided to allow russian athletes to compete under a neutral flag for now but in paralympic qualifiers sixty eight athletes will participate in these qualifiers i'm convinced that all of them will win their chance to compete in the paralympics because all our athletes are in top shape and are respected by international sports community so expect seventy three people to compete in the paralympics. today lately fitting the russian weightlifting team has been handed a one year suspension. is more complicated than inflicts and synthetics it athletes at least have an opportunity to participate under and natural fleck but what are we doing about this. or the situation with out of weightlifters is different from the track and field situation the international weightlifting federation made

a ruling against several countries which had serious problems teams from eight or nine countries including russia to compete internationally for about a year the term differs a little bit from country to country and yes many of our athletes tested positive and the same is true for weightlifters from china ukraine azerbaijan and some other countries of course we aren't happy with the situation but this would be a good opportunity for us leads to think everything over the international weightlifting federation is also experiencing certain difficulties in its relations with the international olympic committee this is one of the most problematic sports that say but our junior and cadet went to will participate in all international competitions were to miss the world championship this year but i'm sure that all our athletes will compete in all international events next year working together with the federation we have developed an anti-doping plan so we're ready to work on the issue and use this time to think about what could be done. in a case our athletics performers now have to compete under natural flag like you are

fighting for their right to compete under the national banner is a figure in or nurture a flag really that different from the one under the russian flag i mean we'll know those are russian athletes. well of course we all know that and the whole world knows that the athletes who competed in the recent. world championships were russian champions eleven people were there and they got six medals but it is insulting and humiliating not to be able to compete under your country's slack and i think it wasn't a smart decision on the part of the federation as well. if that made itself look a little silly it adopted a very formal approach and it looks strange and we're doing everything we can to change that unfortunately the i.a.f. didn't even explain why certain athletes were allowed or not allowed to compete i really hope this will some get resolved. is the correct we'll try to settle all of

this it's still better for our athletes to win medals instead of waiting until they're allowed to compete in russian colors of course it's very important to athletes it's their whole life to start training when they're six or seven years old to prepare for the olympics and world championships all their lives so they have been working very hard for this it is their life goal to compete internationally because even with a neutral flag we don't know that they're russian athletes who represent our country and fight not only for themselves but also for other people who have been banned. yet let us not just a government minister right you're also an olympic champion this whole doping story you can't deny it's a problem in global sports not just russia what do you think is there such thing as clean sport nowadays some am having an impression that the physical competition has turned into a competition of enhanced meant trucks. well. you know i really think that most sports are clean but there's really so much talk about the

problems of doping and for judging fans and safety for making sports mostly about these issues and not actual competitions we ourselves made doping the main issue in sports forgetting about the real thing. because the fact that it what can you deal with there is just more and more this is not exactly the case last year russian athletes have been tested by the u.k. anti-doping a number of times and only zero point six percent of athletes a tested positive naturally there will always be athletes who use dishonest means to achieve good results but there's not a lot of them and their number is decreasing methods for detecting doping are getting more and more sophisticated also most athletes intend to achieve some results in sports by honest means and keep the principles of fair play alive and that's how i competed and i believe that the respect of your friends colleagues and competitors is as valuable as gold medals. there's this other rule that

really get maybe you'll have me as an athlete for instance a person with asked not can take tipping or someone where the even looser to find a d h d can take banned drugs that no one else is out to take your predecessors that you would question he told me that there are some teams where eighty percent of athletes suffer from asthma but i don't know i mean i'm not a pro in this field but it's just not a fair rule maybe. one hand this rule which is called therapeutic use exemptions it is indispensable because there are fleets with medical conditions that require them to take particular medications and they must also have a chance to participate in competitions i myself used a certain medication when i participated in competitions but my medication actually disrupted my performance instead of helping you achieve better results. on the other hand certain medications not only help with athletes conditions but also have performance enhancing effects perming goal is to ensure an equal playing field for

all athletes some athletes who are healthy aren't using any mitigation it's put others are granted. to use certain substances not only cure and help them but also has their performance that we should really look into this i'm talking not only about russia but also about wada because the principle of equal conditions is being violated with a principle when looking at the i also feel that this rule leaves too many loopholes i mean ask my is one thing it's serious but eighty eight i mean it's such a loose tag no says what is it at the end of the day i mean anyone can claim to have it say oh i have this disorder i may have attention deficit but i don't take banned substances to concentrate on this interview right now you know i try to handle it however. the attention deficit disorder is a serious condition though so we should only pay more attention to these cases. so i also want to talk about how sport is funded and russian in china the

government supports it in western countries sport is more often financed privately do you think that there might be a situation where a coach goes to the doping rules i mean to justify the budget subsidy he gets. to know that these things aren't related i'm sure as for funding in sports it always comes from farias sources more or less maybe only in america funding and sports is different there are many private sports associations student sports clubs they get a large portion of funding through advertising so it's really hard to make comparisons but in most countries governments play a big role in athletes training again we should take an individual approach here there are coaches who encourage hoping this is the reason why we in russia have recently introduced criminal liability for coaches and other staff members who encouraged open practices believe this will help us stop these dishonest coaches who force children to start using banned substances doping is actually very harmful

for athletes health. so let's get away from the dope think about a few minutes this is also something that resonates in the world so mr roberts mark roberts who had the english police operation during this year of two thousand and sixteen in france still thinks that the football hooligans are as threats despite all the initiatives taken by the russian government gentle fan and all of that the football hooligans they come and everyone should be afraid of them that's what he says what's to be done was this. well what can we do about it what can we do about mark roberts nothing what can we do about such claims then you know we've successfully host of the confederations cup and we haven't had a single problem with fans look at the fan problem is not limited to russia we don't know what british fans are like for example but they invented the whole thing even the word hogan is not of russian origin you know there are also turkish and

french fans true there are certain individuals who violate rules but again the way the confederations cup was held proved we know how to work with our fans but it's a big world cup ticket sales have already started and we have already received three point five million applications from various countries what the shows is that foreign fans looked at the way the confederations cup went down and saw that everything was fine and decided to go with pay no attention to these kind of claims that we have a problem with fans i'm sure they're not based on real facts and on the actual evaluation of the situation with fans but of course handling them is a challenge for us. but you look i just want to hear from you like in simple terms do you think that in forstmann measures like putting more cops out in the streets are tracking known hell the guns ban people from stadiums is this enough or something else needs to be done. of course first of all football clubs

need to work with air france their loyalty programs as well as matters of logistics for example where france should be seated during the match it's also a matter of cultural and educational levels of fans we need to separate law abiding fans who come to support their teams and are doing this very actively which is very good from those who come to be against and cause disorder violate the law should get the administrative or criminal punishment they deserve you know we have introduced harsher penalties for example banning people from stadiums. so what happens to those who break the rules prison time so look at them it depends i believe our lawyer in this respect is absolutely clear first of all a person could be banned from matches for up to two years they could be fined they could also be subject to criminal punishment by the way for and fans who previously violated the law will love able to come in this respect we naturally cooperate with foreign law enforcement and football institutions just like with doping in there

with doping it's not just a matter of testing and punishment but it's also a matter of education and culture at the very beginning when people are introduced to sports you need to explain to them why doping is really bad for your health that is our main task even though it's true that in certain kinds of sports this problem does exist it's just it's safety in russia goes to the olympics after all how many medals should be expected well i wouldn't use the word if our athletes will go to the olympics as for the medals in all winter sports we can expect to get medals of all kinds of gold including ski jumping in nordic combined and in l. pine skiing our athletes could struggle but even there we could win medals i believe we can be in the top three of course it won't be easy to repeat the sochi achievements because and so here are athletes competing on their home ground with their fans supporting them the and he was he hasn't helped that he. it will be very

difficult to repeat those results but i'm sure our athletes are going to perform very decently to make the russian fans and the international fans very happy. let that. be said the special. mr call of golf we're talking to russia we're talking to russia's sports minister and discussing russia's anti-dumping efforts i had of the twenty eight in winter olympics as well as the upcoming football world cup was once again russian sports minister by vocal up twelve that's it for this edition of.

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