or. or scenery well so let's hope you fill approach. do with just noting alone. for now. we're making a lot of obscure references we're probably playing dungeons and dragons we're probably talking about buying things like we're probably giving each other cheat tips for video games but the staying power of the walking dead i think it really taps into the to the cultural. you know everyone sort of feeling like the world is ending and we're in apocalyptic times and how would you advocate that plus i see some of your tactics and i'm not good at them but i like your tactic tactics i see pics i sees i see the matrix code sometimes larry see the matrix on my tact it's serious so you'll say oh you like disneyland yeah let's go to disneyland i hear you're an alcoholic yeah as you know as i've already opened up so all next on larry king now .

welcome to larry king now today i welcome back one of the hardest working nerds in hollywood chris hardwick cruz is of course the c.e.o. of nerdist industries and creator and host of the nerdist podcast he's also the host of the talking dead the acclaimed post show four amcs mega his series the walking dead and this spring he expanded his talk him far with a new weekly hour long talking with chris hardwick it airs sundays at eleven pm also on amc he will host an actor a writer what what is your profession before we continue i have to tell you i'm going to say this and i'll answer your question today is a very interesting interesting experiment because i just went to three doctors i have a terrible sinus infection. i just got invisalign for the first time and the eye

doctor dilated my pupils so i can't really think straight talk well or. or see very well so this is going to be great but i didn't so i just wanted to i wanted to give you that as a heads up first let's hope you flip. there's another part of it which i know so i don't know if i if i'm talking weird i'm not used to hearing these things and what are you i'm a comedian and if so if you if i met you want to play you say what do you do i would say i am a comic comic i'm stand up so in that part you completely different from say ryan seacrest the host of other things but is not a comedian he's not a comedian no no he's a great host and a really nice guy but i was i was a comedian first and sort of you know hosted around that so when you were a kid comedy was shooting at one hundred percent yeah yeah every steve martin album every richard pryor album. you know and then it just sort of it just grew from there and then the comedy boom in the eighty's was a very fertile time to albums and comedy albums and every state every network had

four different comedy specials you had you know h.b.o. had one night stands and rodney dangerfield and there was evening at the improv in caroline's they didn't end up i didn't start doing stand up i did it a little in college and then i really started doing it kind of full time in ninety eight so it's been almost twenty years since i've your father was a pro bowler dad was a pro bowler when you were a little kid yeah absolutely show this my mom gave this to me to give to you this is. who he and i did dolphin games together he was the dolphin announcer and this was my show and he was at the hardwood lanes reporting for my show interviewing you yeah i was four years old and i knew you were he threw to you we threw to you from that that little chat and so my mom said you got to give this to larry mom i did it i gave it tell him what's your new show talking with christopher. hardwicke sell me

a little about it it's not dissimilar to what we're doing right now it's just you interview people yeah i mean it you know long form interview is you know is not because of short attention spans it's just not something. more and so they said you know if we do if we gave you a show that wasn't about the walking dead or you know breaking bad or anything what would it be and i said well i think it would really spiritual be like my podcast it would be you know like a live one on one chat with a little bit of audience questions and you know to just sort of fight short attention spans no viral clips none of that is a losing fight maybe but it's fun and i like doing it so i think both of us who do have what kind of guests. neil de grasse tyson bryan cranston. live shows like the show it's yes exactly like it's a very similar i mean you're a great inspiration to me so it you know and you but you're i feel like i've i see some of your tactics and i'm not good at them but i like your tactic tactics i see

tactics i see as i see the matrix code sometimes larry see the matrix give me a tactic that tactic is one of my tactic tactic is easy question get you comfortable and then sucker punch so it's like all short questions always like yeah so you say you'll say oh you like disneyland yeah i love going to disneyland i hear you're an alcoholic yeah as you know as i've already opened up you know yes so we talked about me being in recovery last time i was on it what was that you know you or. what was it like it was just yeah just drinking i never i'm too. i don't i'm too anxious to do drugs i don't think i've never done cocaine or anything i just i think if my heart started beating too fast i would just i would just buy a coffee with your local preference just beer just a lot of the air just a lot of the year a holiday yeah yeah every kind of beer all hours of the day all hours of the night all of the duel where you feel. when you're around beer enough. you know i don't

miss it but i think part of the way that i stay sober is that i respect the power of my addiction i know i without a doubt i know if i left here and had a drink within a couple weeks i would be drinking as much or more than i did before i know i would just stop. i you know i was i was dating a girl at the time who said listen you and i are going to break up you should see someone and check into why you do this alcohol is a symptom. you have stuff you need to work out but you know full disclosure i can't be around for it and she was right she was wonderful actress writer named andrea savage and andrea said you know you she was very healthy she said you need to figure out what's wrong so i did i went saw therapist and there proceeded to quit drinking what's the staying power of the walking dead i think it really taps into the cultural of you know everyone sort of feeling like the world is ending and

we're in apocalyptic times and how would you navigate that in what would happen i mean i think you know there's just so much do you know what's going on the walking dead or in the world the walking dead in the world there's definitely to be a zombie apocalypse in the walking dead. i don't watch ahead i don't want to head i don't know because people grilled me for answers and i'm a bad liar so it's safer for everyone if i don't know because it was the public like it i think it just it just sort of sucks you in with that question of who would you be in this situation who would your family be how would you survive where would you go i think to some degree most people have some kind of an apocalypse oh i go to the mountains now i go to a boats now we go into a cave you know and the answer is i don't know if anywhere safe anywhere safe i understand you recently acquired the nerd possession of a lifetime rick moran this is helmet from. spaceballs it did yeah they did you get

it it was there was a hollywood memorabilia auction i bought a bunch of stuff i bought at a big painting of carol burnett from the carol burnett show from one of the sketches i bought gene wilder is credit plate because he used to hand paint on glass from young frankenstein and i bought the helmet dark helmet and. the son max is a very good friend of mine and max said oh if you get it my dad will sign it and he did. sign both of them actually it was a really was a really huge deal for me what got you into memorable i mean i have a lot judge a lot of adolescent memorabilia dealers sinatra. you know i've got an amazing trophy room at home but it's more like an eagle room i go in with all the little i don't know my wife and i my wife collects horror movie props and i collect a lot of animation and disney memorabilia and common and comedy movie stuff there's another auction coming up and i'm going to bid on bill murray's. jumpsuit from ghostbusters was my first movie that's right that's right i remember you from

ghostbusters that's was you guys some people say they're the cause of it i remember i remember it i remember you in there are you a movie freak i mean i guess i am for the movies that i like but i but i but not i'm not i don't know everything about all movies or all collectors nerds i mean i would imagine yeah i mean if you're if you're a hardcore collector and you have deep knowledge about something then you're probably a nerd for that thing is nerd mainstream there are a lot of nerds yeah i think so i mean to but i still think that there's room for fringe nerds who just like the superficial stuff but also deep dive nerds there's room for everyone still to nerds gather together of course you know you have a nerd group of course yeah will we want to been one of my best friends since college nerds do just noting alone. for nerds. what a night we're making

a lot of obscure references we're probably playing dungeons and dragons we're probably talking about buying things like dark helmet we're probably giving each other cheat tips or videogames i mean it's it's a lot of the stuff that you recently said on the side origin series oh i man were hooking up with ladies. you said i think that fandom is a little broken at the moment i think there is a little bit of a crack in fandom because every individual is allowed to take real ownership over things now and social media has you know. i feel like if i think algorithms in computer like websites and internet have taught people that something should be one hundred percent exactly the way they want it at all times hand delivered to them in any form that they want and so i think we're getting a little spoiled as consumers that if something is not even kind of what we wanted then it becomes our worst enemy it's like people don't go oh i don't like that thing i was going to avoid it they go i didn't like that because it was exactly

what i wanted it if they don't change it i will destroy it and i think that's a little broken you started nerdist write a good successful as far as i can tell you know still still going on ten years later this summer a bad summer and movies yeah a lot when revo was great yeah but then you know you say that but then it just came out and broke every box office but it only costs thirty five million it did but you know it was you see it i did it went from here you naturally loved it it was so good really yeah it was such a well domino horror as pretty much as most of what my wife and i watch and it was a really well done horror movie so well done is the clown funny. no it's terrifying . he's great yet bill scars guard there's like a thousand scars guards i think there's a scars guard field somewhere where they're just grown they're all talented why would movies having

a bad soma before it i don't know i mean maybe just maybe people just didn't i think you could analyze and break things up and go well it's because of this or school's out or people were doing this but sometimes collectively people just go and went out into that stuff right now but that always comes back around one. i like horror movies because they're manipulative well they are and they're also you know as a horror fan you know that one out of about every twenty four movies you watch is going to be really good so you watch a lot of crappy ones with the same conventions over and over again but but it's part of the search of like finding the really good what's the most successful horror movie that was your opinion crappy the most successful. oh i don't know probably. i don't know if i'm sure it had to do with the found footage it's found footage of such a tired horror premise these days but i can't i can't think of one off the top of what's the best horror movie of oh the best one well it was pretty great. i mean

the exorcist was incredible carrie was incredible for classic ones i mean you know george romero who unfortunately we just lost recently psycho psycho was fantastic but you know now there's a great service called shutter and shutter is a horror subscription service and they really categorize really specific like you can get you know there's a whole genre subgenre of films of like korean horror where a the ghoul has long hair and her face and then there's another one that's just all ghosts and you know it's a very specific cultural zombie story so it's a great time for horror there's so much good or after the break strange fan encounters there's also this news is horror. fake news is big news about the white house the horror movie ok we'll be right back with chris hardwick and as lawsuits talk about he's the talking dead host he's also the host of talking with chris hardwick he's everywhere we'll be right back.

we're decade the american middle class has been railroaded by washington politics. big body corporate. that's drowned out a lot of boys that's how it is in the new culture in this country now that's where i come in. i met phil on r t america i'll make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get a break in the break. just hardwoods our guests you say goodbye to another one of your talk show project at

midnight on comedy central yeah i did you say goodbye well we got to six hundred episodes we had done the show for four years we won two emmys and i think at a certain point. we just didn't know how to evolve the show anymore it really was just the product of a slightly different era of social media even though that was just for four years you know a four year lifespan was very different from talking with chris hardwick yeah i mean you did the format was like a british panel show it was like a game show it was a a social media news show disguised as a game show so we would through game show categories have comedians make jokes about everything we found on the internet that day and it was so much fun and there were so many jokes per minute but at the end of the day we just i think we did everything we could do with it i always lookin to do something new yeah yeah because it because why not what's driving you today the most probably the ghosts of all the kids who believe me when i was a kid tormenting my soul. which is

a jokey answer and probably also a true answer but i think now it's just you know i have had a twenty three year long career and in that time there have been ups and there have been downs and you know when you're down you always go oh if. i could only just and so now i'm just excited to keep that going and trying to have a once great wish to use you want to be a media conglomerate is this something yeah but not not for all the creepy like money and power reasons just because you know my favorite games when i was younger was sim city and it's they still make it but you basically just kind of build a little city and it evolves and you build another little city and you connect them and you kind of and then all the sudden you kind of have this whole metropolis and i just love the idea of that i just love experimenting and seeing what's possible and have children not yet but only been married a year but we're going to get your wife a little wacky. she in the nerdist group she loves horror movies she

was not she'd never been to comic-con before so i took her you know like she she's shown her comic con for the first time she like it she did she loved it yeah comic-con is insane it's insane leave you to fall i went in they drove me crazy you did didn't oh what drove you crazy about to many people the people are all nuts now when you talk you go to a sporting events where people like paint themselves to colors i don't do paint my show but a sporting event there's a winner and a loser comic-con is just everyone's a winner and there were old crow brought on go batman's walkabout in the street dies of you're just describing paradise larry don't listen to him he's big cranky about comic-con it's the best i don't know i could've just said that to that camera i first play a game of if you only knew with chris hardwick who is having a lot of problems with his eyes his teeth and i don't you can tell that i've got the what is it invisalign look i worked on cable for twenty some years and now i'm

working on network television i just are doing a show on n.b.c. i'm like you know i was going to straighten up my my bottom teeth on n.b.c. i'm doing a show called the wall or on the wall yeah the wall you're the host i am yeah i saw it once yeah i'm an executive producer and host. i'm glad you said who's behind that show me bron james james yeah yeah bronzer great guy he's the best abbess absolute best i don't know anything about sports but i know who the brian is almost running if you give them away on the wall millions millions i mean it is a great idea and when you get those people yeah they got to confront well they do this so we'll do that and you spend the whole episode learning about who they are it's very interviewee because you're kind of opening them up and seeing who they are as people and and they're all good people and you really care about i love the wall i'm so glad thank you i'm so glad so trying to straighten out these guys and

and so i was like i'll just get invisalign but now i feel like a teenager. you know like i just feel like i don't know if i'm talking right so i was really on a roll chorus and i am ok you think you will play a little game of if you only knew let's do it what was your funniest fan encounter of me being a fan of someone or some one of them being a fan of me. i mean i have a lot of you know because because of who my audience is and they're not just me strange people but this is so wonderful and delightful they're all people i would hang out with they're all they're all just like offshoots of people who are in my grade school friend group and so especially at comic-con and people are dressed up you know i mean if i'm dressed up as one character and someone is dressed up as another character from that same thing that's really the dresses ok or who dress oh i've just as marty mcfly luke skywalker texas ranger. characters from videogames. you know i last year i dressed as eleven from stranger things.

so i dressed as a lot of things maybe next year i put the suspenders on the larry king cause but i think you would. i mean i guess but i think it's nice to i'm actually frightfully boring would be is think is your nerdiest quo. really. my nerdiest quality i mean it probably is. my insect collection i have a collection of insects like a collection of framed insects and vintage taxidermy dead in six yeah i mean i wouldn't keep a bunch of live ones around i know so many like do you have hundreds hundreds and we have a bunch of old taxidermy i want to live as life says she's into it too she was it she had the exact same stuff and so we got married like we both just doubled our if you came to our house it looks like a science museum why do you why do you like that insects i just think they're beautiful and fascinating and it just they reveal so much about it because the

turnover rate for insects is so much faster than humans they evolve in and you can really see how they specialize and how they you know how they kind of walk in and adapt to their environment in palmetto bugs i don't have any palmeiro bugs no i don't have any palmetto bugs but in miami they're crazy. i lived in miami twenty years i know city with the best nerd culture that's a great question i mean. seattle's great. northern california is great too chicago has got a good one. you know l.a. is good because there's so many people someone from yesteryear you like to interview you mean someone who's just passed away or from like. you know i always really want to talk to harold remus i always really like met him once he was the loveliest guy and he was a guy that i really wanted on the to get on the nerves podcast and fortunately we

lost him a little a little ways back but he's the one that i loved coming so i fire a movie you're looking for to see well i was i mean i guess i fired horror it was the movie i was really excited about but. wow this is a really high five but i'm so excited for black panther i think black panther is going to be an amazing movie of the comic book it's a comic book writer by ryan coogler i use that we've but there it is the footage looks so incredible ryan coogler is amazing and i'm really excited for the movie and i think because of the way adam it's chadwick boseman and he's and it's an incredible cast the foot it's shot so beautifully we showed footage at comic-con and it was it was just incredible when's it come it comes it comes on next year maybe maybe maybe when i was there for walking dead lupita nyong'o is in it like it's just it's an incredible cast and it's a superpower you wish you had i wish like a real superpower like a social superpower i was never better at parties talking to people one on one i

can do stand up for ten thousand people but sometimes i'm at a party i'm like i don't know what to say to these other humans. who i'd like to be invisible you want to be invisible that's so funny that you chose to be in for the camera for so many years no but if i could be invisible you could be invisible or just your blood is just and there's you know the shadow is not invisible the shadow is not a visible a cloud of people's minds. who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of this correct model in which is going for you know i always whenever i have the superhero dream it's always a spider-man dream so i guess it's wall crawling and shooting webs the wall the wall yeah you get that gave i've been talking to n.b.c. for a long time about finding something that made sense and they said ok we have this show developed i got a major glassman with le bron james and do you want to do a i would always want to do a big flashy game show because i love game shows i was wrong on the behind it i mean he is i mean you know when le bron's won the bronze playing basketball he

doesn't focus on anything else and rightfully so but maverick carter runs you know spring hill and mavericks great and so le bron is involved to a degree but he's not i mean like when when he's playing he's playing. it's so much fun i'm so glad you like it we have some social. media questions ok j.m. wants to know about the movie did it reach meet your expectations it exceeded my expectations because with it you have the book so you have people who are of the book and then you have the old. t.v. movie and then you have this and so sometimes it's hard to make everyone happy but they really i feel like honored the book but made it its own thing and i loved it and stephen king would love it i don't know because you know i've heard stories that stephen king didn't like the the shining you know yeah that's what i heard i don't know if that's true zeke gonzalez twenty two on twitter what are some things

in nerd culture you can't get into. fantasy sports. e-sports like i don't i don't understand it my brain just doesn't work that way to sports fan no not at all it just i i just don't understand it it just doesn't work i know my mom does too but i just can't connect with it. on the larry king now blog originally married how is married life treating you you're married to linda hirsch the granddaughter of william randolph hearst lydia yeah lydia her if she's the great grandmother of paddy hirsch that's right patty hearst is your mother and she is yes i was patty doing she's great she's whose husband she's not married. father lady's father and my dad passed away within a month of each other but we didn't know each other at the time. her her dad passed away four years ago in december and mine passed away four years ago and it was a living she lives in new york new york state she's great you know that she's a lot like her she's the best in you know super fun really funny i was really

worried because you know when my my standup is out in the world to various comedy specials and i have a pretty filthy sense of humor and i was like i don't know if i want your mom to see me do stand up with all these it's human shields john waters is one of her best friends you're not going to offend her and i didn't she's she's great as mary love changed you. it's definitely made me more grounded and comfortable you seem to admit the perfect mate she's the best collection sex she collects all sorts of crazy things and these horror movies she loves horror movies and what do you think your child is going to be like oh man dude we're going to have some kid who likes sports and both are going to be like i don't know what to do now we have to go to football games but you would have to because we have to support whatever that kid's going to want bobby nelson on facebook you started in rob zombie's house of one thousand corpses yes do you have any special memories from working with him yeah robin i've been brad's one of my best friends we've been friends for twenty some

years and. just everyone if you're an. actor everyone should have the opportunity to do a horror movie because it just all the crazy make up and the prosthetics and all of the goop and everything it just it's fun it's really fun daniel christopher thomas can you please tell us a little about your friendship with the incomparable joan rivers who's one of my dear friends too. so i just. my when i was a kid because my dad was in the pro bowlers tour we go to vegas a lot there are a lot of bowling conventions my parents used to take me to see shows all the time that i was too young to go to but they would always sneak me in so i saw carson perform and steve martin and tony orlando and dawn and helen reddy all these great performers and joan rivers opened for johnny when we saw her had to be like seventy seven seventy eight and we met her after the show and she was so lovely years later . i got her to come on the podcast and she came on and she didn't know what it was

right away but watching her adapt within a minute to the vibe of it i fell in love with her as a person i already adored her as a comic and she would call me every once in a while and go ok you know about all that still is social media stuff so i want to make some videos what should i do so i would have lunch with her every so often and we would talk about these ideas and i just adored her and was heartbroken when she was giving person when she passed away she was so whatever whatever you think or didn't agree with about because in her mind nothing was off limits for comedy absolutely and so she was an equal opportunity offender in that way and still so funny right up until the end of her life and and she was it was just an act but as a person she was so sensitive so loving so wonderful i miss her i really am said she's gone great seeing you thanks larry king big things to my guest chris hardwick be sure to watch the talk. sundays at ten pm on amc following the eighth

season of the walking dead also be sure to tune in to talk to you with those lodwick sundays at eleven pm also on amc you can always find me on twitter of kings things see you next. there's a real irony going. you. think that i'm responsible for boys new people and there's always holdouts what was always expensive in new zealand the ordinary no still survive don't you feel you have all read miles as you mentioned she's been in trouble has used social media oh it's all a story goes it's garbage in real soon. the

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