where they are you know then stay in a different and this is the present situation of the treaties that you came up for more cooperation or you can be a normal member and i'm sure that in some areas there will be much more engagement for instance in energy policy or in digital cooperation to could be much more either we do it all to get go we're some moving faster than the race but i think if some are really trying to go ahead i'm sure most of the countries will forward so the idea of maque always not so much to divide to split europe but to give a wake up call to those who are a little bit more reluctant and at the end most of the member states will come along. i want to hear your opinion on what the polish president under. said recently actually said that e.u. is turning into a class society with some countries becoming second class members do you think this

is a process that has started i take this critics very serious because i think it's a little bit unfair but also something which we should really consider we should not be that way then to be very serious and my vision but i was for him it is that we started with a large amount of poland for instance. republican slovak republic and when i was prime minister we finished and concluded. negotiations with the same new member states and i was really always very pushy for enlargement of the european union to give really does eastern european and central used in south or used to be european countries if perspective to be. in full fledged member of the union so if they have the impression they are not treated in a respectful and equal footing way then it makes me a little bit concerned that should not be the way they should think. maybe they

have different feelings. engaged in love on the other hand we should think about our positions so maybe we should be much more open minded actually we're going to talk about how their views differ from the use of the core of central europe but if i'm just going to give you a little example you know there's been like this between east and the west in here up broke out recently it was a food scandal supposedly west exports or imports to the eastern europe food that's made of worst stuff that what is sold in the west why is there such approach that everything that goes to the east could be a quality lesser than whatever is. acceptable to be very frank of the inacceptable i think this same quality is the same as of course it's cheaper than it's a different case but the same price as same quality must be. distributed everywhere and in my opinion the commission is the institution who is responsible to money

toward the functioning of the cd market if this is part of the cd market they must guarantee they must look it's the quality of these for this commission is now really. this is not acceptable and we never be famed. company is offering something of a second to quality in the. country. so let's talk more about the outlook of the eastern european countries as opposed to a core bloc for instance division group which is poland hungary slovakia's. they have a different outlook on questions on core value questions. mostly on the refugee policy and that really differs from their fellows in the west should they be brought in line with the rest of europe forces forcefully or should their outlook actually balance. western now what do you think was your first of all division of that

country to so how more news is this sometimes seem from the form of an outside b have different opinions the words of the czech republic has a completely different opinion that the important slovakia's it will be in between is also very much of the side of poland so in my opinion. some diseases of the european council. the council of european ministers where not wise enough princes the european council the prime ministers decided on a voluntary basis to take in researchers from syria three weeks later the ministers for interior are now with the foreign ministers worried minister for interior i think so decided on it already kotori base is a quarter for each country and this was by and by may joy. and this was not accepted by those countries surveyed voted against because they felt that there is

nor there is no basis for to for such a disease in the treaties and it was a big dispute going up to the european council or to the european court of justice and defacto decided in favor of the original decision but this is something which was not very wise in my opinion opposing i'm not alone in politics it is my personal opinion you can do this but only really voluntary basis you cannot force somebody in such a sense that if he should because this is really part of who has to control to take in someone by the way. i know him quite well took in voluntarily a lot of thousands of syrian refugees but not decoding to decode but on the decision some christians who were threatened by the. islamic fundamentalists who had taken the unit he was in contact with the with the bishop in syria so i think it was good decision so this is their wages. this is their way to work but it's. exactly they were it's working right now because right now

gracilis threatening fines and penalties of history european countries there was a ship that countries don't take in their share of refuge arrivals how far can you push states on this or do you think no there's no fines in the moment discussions on that. just discussions that it would require a huge majority for get it this is. not the real way we are the family we have to talk to each other we have to negotiate sometimes defeat very difficult discussions during night time or in the morning. but there is a need to discuss and to negotiate in the two to four but we were to punish somebody did we not work on those also european commission or commission presidential he's saying that. must be expanded in essence suggesting that making the year a compulsory for all members is

a good think he actually believes that this would unite the union instead of divide it what do you think this is the treated and to be fair i. just mentioned what is the treaty of the european union so the fact that everybody with the exception of those who have been opened out by the danes the brits would be racist. is is they would say fulfill all the criteria tough they should join the euro on the other hand i think time is now a little bit changing that we have our own experiences with the large with the use only the past i think there's much more. reluctance we read we are much more in line with conventional wisdom with negotiations they say to those who i think is to treat is who you know was right about that but in practical terms we could time it will take time and. he forced against he so here we in into the euro zone so

yeah because like a very precise example nowadays of course paul has fulfilled all the criteria is it can actually adopt euro but it's kind of reluctant because you know euro zone has a troubles seem to take a call that we've why it will. in europe they can actually do your weight as much as they want i think this is not a treaty but. the european union is famous for flexibility and we did the freedom to interpret some rules and i think to do it i want to talk to you about the reshuffle of the political scene all over europe in general so in france you have managed ben was a super traditionalist politician to say the least just might second round presidential election beating in the beginning traditional parties you also have the fire rattle turned in for germany party that came parliamentary election.

five star movement the northern league they're all gaining ground how do you explain this political shuffle this tendency what's going on but these are protest votes. this is a kind of the new wake up call people are protesting against we're in favor of something and if you look to the real slim for instance if range election. what really counts is the national election for the parliament the pain devout to gain the flu seats nothing more the fact that it is different the disappeared in the parliament you keep the same in great britain. not a single member of you keep her today in the british parliament. studio to do for germany made twelve point five percent means. eighty seven point five did not vote

for or for these for these personalities if you look to. not leading. the freedom party in us to twenty six k. mean third party i mean this is legitime it is voices of concern and hopefully a wake up call for the other parties needs to be more competitive to be more. here into the mouth the hearts of the people what exactly what precisely are they protesting what you say it's different there's a chance to determine election was kili dominated to do so the last election clearly dominated by migration that's for sure is a migration of refugees this was the major issue and i think we are no exactly listening what the concerns of the people are in changing our policy this is what democracies are about. not to be don't have elites flying in the orbit in space in

space but we are down to earth and to listen what are the real problems of cities so to change same in germany to change completely the politics it is much more now controlling the flow of the defraud the flow of of migrants and refugees and it will pay off no doubt about it and this is the way our democracies work sometimes you have conflict the mochas the needs drama and conflicts all the time because you have turned the thieves at the table is not. a dictatorship dictator says yes everybody bows no in the book or says you have to fight for your opinion and have to listen to the people. then take a short break right now more where back we'll continue talking to us just former chancellor of all functions still about the european unity stay with us.

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and we're back with former chancellor functions so a lot talk a bit about you katie leaving the uni and things aren't going to be the same it's happening right now do you feel like a powerful member leaving uni and it's going to weaken on the contrary strengthen a because now you're not going to have a skeptical brits who are going to be. part of the pan every parent decision making

process and they found the answer is maybe both it weakens us of course economically because the british economy is a strong economy in and out of world looking economy do we can because of the brits if you make silly and internation made good contacts will over diverted asia in latin america in america. so this weakens us on the other hand it strengthens so who are really interested to go much more forward in a way to strengthen our foreign policy to strengthen our defense capability not include not in competition with nato but for instance in in peacekeeping operations or what we did in enough or in the balkans or in in other cars in other parts of the world mostly within un mandated within the mandate or we see who we see even in day to this is something care where the brits were always very reluctant so this is

something where the rest of the european union could go deeper in to better integrated union but to both is probably true and the same for a great great i think economically it's it will be a disaster for great britain because a lot of companies will move to the continent if we if we create a lot of tensions and problems we have to establish new bureaucracies controlling the environment the consumer protection the atomic security issues and all these trade issues very complicated areas it will not be easy for the brits on the other hand they have been a little bit more room to maneuver day in day week to day we decided that we'll have to decide are we now bit of a little bit. and i want to quote once again john kludging care who sat recently that britain will have to pay for at least. the european union sometimes it feels

like brussels is being very hostile to brits because it wants to scare other members from following london's example where living so harsh on the question of the bill the so-called to exceed bill i mean the brits know quiet skilled negotiators they know all your english they're. part of the european union a big piece on something which the responsible is way. way way to order something can go away without paying the bill to the question is how big is the believes it really hundred billion dollars or sixty billion or is it twenty billion but there is a may or for this is has to be negotiated but i think it should be negotiated only on a fake based way so not so to say to punish somebody over. when i think at the end he will find a compromise on that question could just. in the country has actually

blamed brussels particularly the e.u. refugee policy for breakfast and that's actually very. that's contrary to the official european here does have a point here it was not so much a blame game it was more. the concern that if we don't change our rules to dishing. to limits no borders and so on. but in excellent efficient control of the external border and this one is the feel like if brussels had been that harsh with the refugee policy especially with britain britain could have still been part of the european union i doubt a little bit because the main issue in great britain was to take back control or you said nothing to do with migration because great britain is not a member. of the schengen zone they control their borders they have not the same

currency they are not part of the european prosecutor of the jury system so this is not the not the real problem the real problem was take control over my opinion the brits made to be mistake they opened from the very first moment the labor market for would be used to repeat migrants and they expected fifty thousand people to come from the tame new member states and did in one million pose alone ok it was an absolute mistake a miscalculation now austria. itself the country that has first welcomed refugees with open arms and now it's passing serious measures such as ban on face they also how has it come to that first week over the different nothing to do with the refugees i think what kind of does because most of the refugees are from muslim origin but we didn't have many refugees with the only poor

countries putative each of who is who we choose to live daily in your face that this is this is a different case i think this is a principle issue what are our values and in our in our european system we want to see the faces of our people is for sure they don't feel like austria is turning labor right politically not at all not at all everybody has the same rights but if we have an instance if if you woman and austin woman goes to saudi arabia she has to do with to wear a veil and the saudi arabian gulf. the woman who wants to travel. became not to wear a suit it's to rule i think this is quite easy to handle and there's no did not notice illiberal this is a cultural norm and i think this is something everybody understands and by the way to a ninety percent of the people are of the same opinion the same in france as he would

be in beijing other countries but courts is going to be actually works the world's youngest leader he has won a lot on the issues raised by for instance your far right freedom party. i feel like maybe it's their big hurry to a little bit no no i think they want israel but lace they want. plus seven point five percent in the election last sunday the fifteenth of october and the freedom party won five. sand and he was so slow to see the real one that he was the one who closed the ball can all can root he was the one really defamed. the protection of external borders sometimes it was not very much. and today it's the common position of the european union member states of the same

opinion that we have to protect the external border phone text leads to better mandate we have to help put those countries outside the european union image to arabian countries libya tunisia. rollcall or the lebanese or the jordan people or turkey we are absolutely ready for that and we have to pay more for the un refugee cames was a big mistake to cut down the assistance to the un world food programme so this is absolutely necessary for accretion democrat to help and to support but it's also needed we have to control the flow of migrants coming to europe and this is now the by my opinion the common opinion so you are the first one actually to welcome the freedom party into the government back in the day and we immediately got a diplomatic boycott from all of your european neighbors do you feel that this a criticism for the same experience right now no i think so because i don't think

so because. they learnt their lesson the sanctions work for you need back simoom seven eight months and then they gave it up with no gain at all. the people live. where united behind my government and the we proved that this government from the people's but the freedom party was absolutely full european we decided nearly unanimous on a large wind and on the e.u. treaties the european constitutional treaty was defunct unanimously if you said. it in the parliament. today would be impossible by the way in parliament which are two huge majority so we prove that we can we form a country we are still pro european country but with our own priorities and i'm sure the bust includes we do the same he's pro european who's approved foreign minister with a good credential and i'm sure the freedom party of today's who's who really where

did their part of the pain. keep someone else but to those who are interested in the way functioning europe it was some critical elements to centralization subsidiarity more ok but pro european so current us generator shape is less anti russian than its predecessors do you think we'll see a shift in our streets policy maybe movement towards is in the sanctions interactions with me almost we never knew it was never the russian this is so this for sure encounter read it we had we see our country is a kind of a breach of our cultures of people and we are never. until russia was we were not happy with the annexation of the cream because. if then you should do it even quoting to international law has the possibility for safe determinations you know

what. i already know that it's going to cost over there that's for sure that. in my opinion there is the need for a better regulation on the international law for these things by the way also for the qatari creations then this is not this is rude to do with it this is decided in the very ambiguous way that. you find the right for safety of communication on the other hand the intake of countries and this is borders too i think we see here is we see our country as a breach. to see. if you and other friends. i think everybody's interested because. in

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