john oliver of arc to your marriage is going to say that we are apparently better than asking. to see people you've never heard of love derrick. rose of the world. very. seriously. thank you. for breaking news in r.t. barcelona erupts with joy as the catalan parliament voted overwhelmingly to declare independence from spain. madrid reacts to the move by voting to impose direct rule on the region prime minister what i have always says that the rule of law in catalonia will be restored. but i welcome it's just turned six o'clock in the evening here in moscow you're watching r.t. international now spain and historic day for catalonia the region's parliament has

voted in favor of declaring independence from spain the results of a secret ballots were released at around three thirty local time and a total of seventy two all makers voted in favor of cattle and independents ten dated against and two abstained both pro independence lawmakers and crowds of people outside the parliament didn't hesitate to show their election. us in the instance you've. made and living. in the me thank you. thank you thank you. thank you thank you thank you thank you

thank you. ok well let's get the latest from boss alone with bin species covering events for us the charlotte hello again there's been a bit of time hasn't there for the new sisson canmore the reaction in barcelona at the moment. the people are speaking to what is clearly a pro independence rally exactly as you'd expect they are you for it over this decision that their parliament has voted for independence this is something i was just talking to a couple people moments ago who said it's not just their mates their parents their grandparents and even their great grandparents have been waiting pool because this is something that many cuts alone in so have been fighting for independence for almost a hundred years and one man said to me he said you know if my grandmother was alive today she would be in t's of joy over this decision because this is something she wanted her entire life and i it's really poignant to hear people talking about the

fact that this is not just a struggle that people at this independence rally feel today but this is a historic struggle many people say they're unhappy with the idea of being part of spain because they don't see spain as being a democracy now clearly that is not the only reaction here on the streets many people are unhappy with the idea of secession chromos pain but the reaction in this crowd has been euphoric over that decision by the catalan parliament. this was going on madrid. senate did vote to invoke article one five five which effectively sheens control of cathelineau near because they say that independence is against spain's constitution how do people feel about this battle it's obviously brewing between themselves and madrid. well this is a battle that's been going on in the weeks leading up to that election that

referendum on october the first and what people are saying now is this is a day of history for two reasons one because they have this vote for independence by parliamentarians here in catalan but also historically because article one five five part of the spanish constitution has never been enacted it's been described by many people as a nuclear option and that's because essentially what it does is removed regional autonomy from catalonia now many people are unhappy about that even those who voted against independence many people saying they don't feel it's a democratic decision for madrid to take that action unprecedented action and they are very unhappy about this idea of the rule of law coming from madrid what's really difficult to determine now is exactly what's going to happen next article one forty five was passed around about half an hour after catalan m.p.'s of booted independence and the reality is nobody knows what the legal situation is at the

moment this is the credibly delicate balancing act and there is going to need to be a lot of discussion behind closed doors as to what happens next whether madrid sends him police or whether they hold a fruitful discussions with members of the catalonian parliament including its president just to let you know under article one five five the spanish prime minister can actually remove the catalan president so it's really unclear exactly where. it's declaration of independence will be short lived or for the long term. it's definitely the question isn't it ok thanks charlotte the charlotte been ski their forests in barcelona well throughout their push for independence catalonia has repeatedly faced fierce opposition from the trade here's a recap. to

those in charge in the catalan government who are the protagonist in this challenge to work coexistence i ask them to cease illegal activities they should abandon their objectives. i i. i. i. i. mean we are now applying article one five five because no government at all in a democratic country can accept that the law be ignored violated or changed and

this has all happened under false criteria and they impose their criteria on everybody else. ok well let's get the thoughts now of john white a political commentator and journalist he joins us from the u.k. good even cheat john firstly what are your thoughts here it's a complicated one hundred isn't it on the one hand we've got a region claiming independence on the other we've got madrid saying i'm afraid not we're in control. well this clearly takes matters into a new stage a very dangerous stage and i have to say that i think that the declaration of independence on the part of the cutline regional government carries with it a poor form of adventurism the denying the democratic race over opponents of cattle on independence with then cut the warning off which we know there are many. deny they have their voice in this process the referendum that was organized and supervised and held by the cuttle on regional government the

independence leadership of catalonia was. by opponents of cattle on independence abiding by the decision of the spanish constitutional court that this referendum was illegal so there are democratic voices being there night and this process and i think mr moore is playing a very very dangerous game and he is only incurring the wrath of a madrid government that has already shown a propensity to unleash violence against unarmed civilians so it's a very very dangerous path that mr policeman said and as is the path said by the madrid government mr hawley has bungled this issue from the very beginning yes the spanish constitution is inviolable but when that constitution is used as justification for unleashing the allam old helmeted riot police against unarmed civilians the constitution is not worth the paper it is written on do you think

from his experience after the initial independence and the fact that there is so much bad publicity over the way police reacted. indeed but that you know the e.u. has already demonstrated their stand squarely with the madrid government and so that is effectively given way since for mr hoyer to deploy these coercive methods and measures against. catalan independence movement but clearly the cattle on independence leadership is intent on driving a coach or horses through the spanish constitution which doesn't know how within any provision for allowing any of its constituent regions to conduct a referendum on its on its constitutional future within the spanish they asked to have this is good or you have to discuss your mates back to you and i caution those who believe that this is cattle and independence be one it's been declared on a unilateral basis but it is far from won at this stage that's an important point

john do you really think this could turn into a violent struggle that. i think this is the trajectory that it is no one i think it is inevitable unless one or both parties pull back from the past that they are on from the brink because none are showing any inclination to negotiate or to compromise in any way whatsoever and therefore i think sooner rather than later that will be seen tanks on the streets of possible and your own are in other parts of catalonia very very should. faces a problem to you doesn't it because even though he's saying ok we're going to shame control of catalonia practically implementing that in a region where so many people are going to disobey effectively back to order and they said we're going to protest will be peacefully but i mean from a practical point of view makes it very hard to carry and there's. well absolutely we have already seen the numbers who are coming out in the streets in these mass

demonstrations the kind of numbers that we've not seen anywhere in europe for many many years in support of the one independence and these people are not going to go away and if mr hoyer thinks that more course of measures are going to do anything other than what the fire the determination of this movement and in fact to convey more catalans into supporters of independence then afraid. is wall the wing in delusion politics is an art the seeing clearly mr hoyer is someone who has failed to understand the events as driving this issue and he should have pulled back in the shitter be willing to negotiate based on these events and based on the clear level of support that does exist for cattle and independents in the region of a load a referendum to take place because if he has confidence in spanish democracy if he has confidence in the country's institutions he should have allowed it to be tested

through a democratic vote but by embarking on the path of force and authoritative he is only succeeded in feeding this movement and who knows where they can go from here the goddess of will of already been deployed and the prospect of they trying to force their way into public office is to arrest politicians and officials know as no one the anyone who believes in democracy can certainly be relishing at this point in time at the moment the e.u. is sort of standing on the sidelines isn't it it's saying you know we don't want to get involved in this this is an issue that spain asked resolved but also i eat you must be very faithful of what's happening now given the sort of secessionist movements we've seen across the continent. i mean over say i'm speaking to you from edinburgh scotland. referendum on scottish independence at twenty 14 it was a very successful process because it was conducted with the cooperation of the scottish regional devolved government and its british national counterpart and i

suggest this is a model that should have been adopted in spain because it was a testament to how the issue of self-determination which by definition is a very emotive issue can be dealt with maturely and democratically and civilly but there are other secessionist movements even in spain we have the basque region that lives next door to cut the. and again this will only feed the the the measures taken by the government can only feed support for basque nationalism and this is already taken on a violent violent cute in recent years with the with its violence and terrorism which only ended a few years ago so mr hoyer i think has is no between a rock and a hard place and he's only one self to blame for do to us for the e.u. yes of secessionist movements all over the e.u. there are centrifugal forces pulling against the new and so the e.u.

is got a cellphone of a difficult position because it's essentially washed its hands of the affair and in so doing wash the blood of the innocent civilians who've already been battered and bludgeoned by members of the guard the a civil and too lightly to be battled implosion. and the near future of this thing is not dealt with properly. ok john look really good to talk she get your thoughts on this so we appreciate it one at a time they will have to leave it there that was john white political commentator and journalist. for catalonia referendum on independence on october the first was marked has been mentioned by violence from spanish police who were ordered to prevent the vote from taking place. i was a kid i was

was was a kid was injured and this is not the first people this was the earth and i was taken from here by ambulance so this thing from their early hours of the morning was it seems to be escalating i was . or i will just minutes after the cattle and parliament voted the spanish senate took an unprecedented step to even approved an article to launch direct rule on catalonia for more on this now we're joined by any pranking is back in the studio. a lot to talk about first what's madrid's reaction to all of this them what are the

possible consequences indeed and the lots talk about what's happening in madrid and of course the decision by decisions by the central government that are no less important than the obviates that we are getting from loftie and catalonia in the immediate aftermath of the vote in the capital on parliament the session was underway in madrid and what they did is they voted to an act article one five five which under the spanish legislation right now means that the central government in madrid is imposing direct rule over the region of catalonia now madrid can resort to all measures that are necessary to. impel a crisis in that region and most importantly that is deposing the regional capital and leadership now the spanish government has never done this under the new

constitution this is of course an unprecedented measure and some people house call it the nuclear option but the prime minister of spain. house called this a criminal action when i say this of course i'm talking about the decision by the title of government to go it alone and he's saying it's a criminal action so perhaps by doing this and by essentially initiating this vote in the senate he is keeping his promise and his promise initially was to maintain and we're store the rule of law in the country who says it's important for the democracy and he called on all spaniards to remain calm he was the person who as i've said and initiated the vote in the senate which is of course the central government in madrid in the first place so let's take a listen to what he said previously the spanish prime minister. we're asking

you senate says to dismiss the president vice president and members of the council and government likewise the regional parliament must be electing new members thank you well he round of applause in madrid but of course these kind of words would have been moved and catalonia and now the question is what actual measures what exactly the dritte is going to do in the next few days the options are pretty simple i told you perhaps the first thing that the leadership in madrid is going to decide is fire mr. that is something that everyone is expected. they will take the administration and the council of the regional government under their control they might also take control of the cattle and police the cattle and

government will be able to operate under a close supervision bob madrid and their parliament can also be in operation but they won't be able to elect a new president i can tell you that the cabinet in madrid will convene in just a few hours and then this branch of power will of course be making the decisions on what to do next and hope we will find out what comes out of it when doors open and we know of course that the central government in madrid can exercise power less than two months ago we saw what was happening in the streets of catalonia with all the police brutality and the ways madrid chose to crack down on the end dependency referendum that happened in catalonia remember that it was massively in favor of the independence but that doesn't matter because they simply didn't allow the people to vote so let's see what exactly madrid decides to do right now and if they're going to do this with our history yeah and as you say we should know more

clearly what they intend to they within the next two or three hours or so ok all right. thank you. parliament then voting to declare independence here's a short recap on the push to be a sovereign state. by now you've surely heard about cats alone his desire to go it alone in the prosperous region in northeast spain it counts for almost a fifth of the country's economy and believes it's paying madrid way more than it gets back catalonia is home to seven point five million people boasting its own language culture and history which is why many cats lands consider themselves a separate nation. but it has been a part of spain since the fifteenth century courtesy of king ferdinand and queen isabella for the origins of the modern says sation its movement let's fast forward to the twentieth century spain becomes a republic and catalonia gets

a statute of autonomy but six years later franco comes to power and takes that away the three decades of franco's oppression and he boasted the catalans desire for independence and after his death and strange transition to democracy catalonia got its autonomy back but not enough as many locals believe when the country's can stitch new course limits on cancer and claims to nations that it started a chain reaction. with protests and symbolic referendums in cities and towns across the region some catalans now compare madrid pressure to the decades of franco's dictatorship the region held a non-binding independence vote back in twenty fourteen about eighty percent said yes to independence but it was declared illegal by spain look at their own euro. one up a few undemocratic the catalonia is crashing ahead regardless and seems more determined than ever to be in the sand. ok well with major decisions then

being made in spain there is reaction coming in from around the world on what's happened and then see it you'll come to joins us live now from talk about this nasty hello again so what's been said. well and you are certainly lots of reaction coming in in reaction to this. development finally to come from catalonia after well really not just weeks or months or years for this region trying to push forward with its independence now actually going ahead and declaring it we have for one heard from the president of the european council donald who has tweeted saying nothing changes he has said that for the european union the only side they're going to be communicating with when it comes to this is spain they do see it as sort of the main contacts there obviously continuing to support madrid in this situation and he has said that quote hope the spanish government favors force of argument not

argument to force this of course in reference to some of the violence that we saw unravel following the first on the day of the chopper first referendum and in reaction to this we have already heard the leader of the council on the region carlos put him on tweet back saying as you know catalonia always favors the force of arguments so the way these two are actually going to be. interacting with each other is quite key of course given that catalonia despite its wish for independence and leaving spina does want to continue to remain within the european union and it's been made time and time again clear to catalonia that if it does decide to leave it would essentially be leaving the european union so that's another huge issue that is now going to come to the forefront which is going to have to be decided now in terms of some other reactions we've also heard from the u.s. state department they have said that they support keeping a strong and unified speed and it has to be made clear that of course in the time leading up to the referendum we've seen from european leaders really make it clear

that they believe that this is an internal spanish issue however it has been made clear that of course catalonia leaving would not be favored by anyone throughout the european union and one of the reasons for that is that of course concerns about this becoming a possible trend within the e.u. of course let's keep in mind. brock's it has already happened in terms of that vote being unexpected largely for the european union members that didn't want britain to leave now this big move in catalonia of course other places throughout europe remain a question to name a few scotland italy these issues are quite prevalent so what happens with this next is quite big for the european union and we can no doubt expect much more reaction to come in the time to come. sure can see that was and see for us in the. well a bit earlier i did discuss the events in catalonia and madrid with ukip and they've been. through i think it's basically the european union people don't want to be

ruled by a faceless bunch of people in russia d.c. the decisions are being taken by many great things like well look this is a let me to madrid let me didn't say in brussels the european union has created a lot of problems economically with the euro decision making being taken away peoples and people cannot get hold of representatives by the scruff of the neck and threw them out and seventy five years so i think people are disheartened by central government's large european states are not doing what they're supposed to do and it's not just speaking the same problems with the. the the floodwalls in belgium various parts of europe there are problems people want to secede. you watching us international we're going to take a quick break in teams. it's.

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russia to win the presidential election so we have yet to see the evidence of this however it appears more likely it was the democratic party the difficult. thank you thank you. hello again you with r.t. international and our full hour of news that's because it's been a story day for catalonia the region's parliament has voted in favor of declaring independence from spain the results of a secret ballot were released today around three thirty local time a total of seventy lawmakers voted in that in favor of cattle and independents ten voted against and two abstained both pro independence for all makers and crowds of people to the outside the parliament did not hesitate to show their election. thank

you. thank you. very much indeed was one of the was. was thank you thank you ok well let's get the latest from barcelona where we are joined now by charlotte dubinsky who is there charlotte it has been a bit of time hasn't there for this news to sink in the reaction in barcelona thank report i've been pro independence protesting crowd all day and quite literally they are absolutely euphoric about this historical decision this vote by the.