tv Cross Talk RT November 6, 2017 11:00pm-11:30pm EST
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he will shoot him out of the sky when he completes the purchase of lots of additional military equipment from the united states calls on japan to buy u.s. weapons to counter the threat from north korea during his historic tour of asia. on the streets of barcelona as people protest against the push for independence in catalonia comes as the region's president gears up for a legal battle against his extradition from. witnesses of sunday's. recall the horror of the u.s. state's worst ever mass shooting. coming up in about an hour's time my colleague collin bray will be joining you for
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a full look at today's top stories coming up next on our international it is crosstalk but in the u.k. and ireland renegade incorporated is up next with its. welcome across the uk we're all things are considered. well the media and the democrats can't get enough of russia russia russia the democrats own dirty laundry is coming to light also can twitter and has the u.s. and its allies accepted defeat in syria. talking a rigged. system i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international
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affairs and security analyst we also have victor allege he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and of course we have bobby cheese a political analyst with sputnik international our gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it we're calling this program rig system. we've just heard from. donna brazil who is acting chairman chairperson of the democratic party but indeed the democrat primary was rigged we all knew that ok and now there's a confession here but i want to broaden and let me go to first here for me we see a rig system in almost every single sense and for me it is the collapse of american soft power around the world because the values of transparency on a c. one man one vote one person one vote is all collapsing right in front of our eyes here i mean how can you go around the world making these demands about values
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western values when you don't adhere to them at home absolutely and i think it stopped a few years ago because when people saw that americans have a choice between hillary clinton and bill trump all this question is so this is democracy if millions of people died in iraq in libya in syria that is what we are striving for so i think it started collapsing a few years ago but now of course it is the peak because actually the more the system is reproducing itself around the world the less attractive it becomes you know in a global in spain they started throwing accusations two days ago that russia organized the could no longer crisis so it was not the spanish judge who ordered aig for money. there's nothing wrong with spanish spain's the military. plane was a normal european country and so you saw. russians go to the i don't think there's
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anything normal in the west anymore picture you know you know of course we had the story about the bernie sanders being cheated here but we have the same problems in the republican party as well be tried to rig out when they tried to deny a popular candidate donald trump he succeeded hillary clinton didn't succeed when it was rigged but we have rigging an entire political system is rigged and it's we're going to talk about twitter as well social media plays a role in this to go and what happened this election cycle really shows that american democracy today is a sham and we really didn't find my new from brussels really was all a confirmation but we knew that we shared questions that c.n.n. was going to ask town hall with hillary clinton share that with clinton's campaign we knew the clinton campaign used to be budget there's it's personal appears but we knew that before and now it's just being confirmed we also have
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a very interesting statement by brazil about her thinking about switching from from hillary clinton to joe biden and the why she decided not to do it it was because she thought although we have been in the united states who were brought out to care for hillary clinton i gave her the politics right but but what does it tell you we see it really says that she thought as many democrats that not just followers of her and sanders that's that hillary was no longer can do that and she admits it who could win that who was likely to win at that point she was worried about that and even though even though she is the chairman of the d.n.c. it's thought that hillary has chances where slimmer than i thought before she was not going to exchange it for somebody else like vitamin only because somebody you know that women would be ok but if they have eggs and it's worked with a lot of people the democratic political and the democratic party when they lose ok we know that ok. it's that is really the what makes it really quite absurd go ahead
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peter there you go again you and the former d.n.c. head donna brazil and the ultra progressive senator elizabeth warren you're saying exactly what putin wants you are casting doubt on the same tittie of the american democratic system you're making people doubt how and this is what white house own p.s. this is why this conspiracy will never die because it it's one size fits all the the western i don't know neo it's donna brazil the western rounds during the clinton diehards around already out in force now denouncing donna brazil the woman who are self gave hillary clinton the big questions at c.n.n. and in one of the town hall forums during the election she herself was part of the process of american democracy is doing just fine destroy thank you very much it
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doesn't need any help from last one point to coming to the studio here you know of course i watch the airwaves and. and when of course there's a lot it's very partisan but if you look at like c.n.n. they still continue to defend this failed candidate it's like a like stockholm syndrome there's a call that it's a cult and they can't see beyond it i have to believe that the dead donald trump on his trip to asia is just enjoying this watching them continue to thrash them so slowly but i mean he was a clinton was one of the only disappointment you know she disappointed. lead by losing you know how disappointing for normal people was bernie sanders because it was shown to him now several times that the crew will stall when you're now down to brazil is confirming that you know you have this was before the election absolutely and still he is now talking about russian interference hold. they were
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a city is he doesn't regret urging his support to still vote for clinton he is the biggest disappointment for normal people i look at your situation there's is somebody who wants to live his political life out in the senate his wife is facing some charges in vermont with that with the college connect who was here and that he understands very well as politicians do that if he would have pressed that issue with clinton to further his problems with the words he would use that one blade exemplifying quickly exactly so that's how the system works everybody who another one another one size fits all you know they don't like the clinton machine or else or else but let's talk about the details of this because it is interesting when debbie wassermann schultz took over the d.n.c. and we went into this election season the democratic national committee the democratic party was two million dollars in debt they were still paying off the debt from obama's victory four years previously and more an expected to fill it
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paid off for another four years so there was a joint fund raising agreement that was agreed between the d.n.c. under debbie wassermann schultz and the hillary victory fund this is hillary in this is instead of two thousand and fifteen they so they were essentially this was before. the primary was decided this was when bernie sanders was still a viable candidate this this type of taking over the d.n.c. is normal after that for the primaries this side but this happened well before that despite what some of her diehards tried to say and she basically used the d.n.c. as a money laundering operation denying money to the states which we saw a lot of democrats down about downhill didn't have the money they needed to fight battles it was all sucked into this you know doomed hillary clinton campaign. and.
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this you know her people who are in charge of finance in charge of all the major decisions everything it was process from from beginning to end you know one of the things the of the thing is really interesting is that you know they the left had their messiah president for eight years you know their messiah president but it was he was nominally head of the party in the eight years that a barack obama was in the white house you saw over a thousand. seats. assembly members etc etc then issue from the democratic party have you heard one word of criticism from barack obama during all of this i meant well i like the expression all the down to brazil that i did find the can say in the center of all of this well i think i also did find the you know what you said she's not going to kill the patient. but barak obama look at his behavior during the election he basically destroyed the institution of elections because he. maintained his new credit you off stage during
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the election he not only endorsed by just kind of it he also won best position can do something that had no it's very very true i mean watching him criticizing trump was very it was something that reduces not exactly you got exactly my threat to mankind is that it's always been a partisan can just going out more we don't know what's know it's more backing your candidate not attacking the other here to do what you have to do that the i mean i guess the president he does participate in hackery or there was another another very important event that happened in may two thousand and sixteen. publicly a bomber said that donald trump was not going to become the president of the united states who was he to promise it publicly to the leaders are going to be out of the great i want to shift gears completely here again we heard the president the united states coming out in very. and we criticizing his attorney general jeff sessions
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here. that is something that is a bit unusual i think someone has told trump what you can say and what you can't say ok but there's a lot of pressure to look at the clintons right now jeff sessions is in the crosshairs this is the think where you know the clintons were opposed to before the election they lost the last election so to be it's really not the clintons out there that are having the gender to be there but they're not that i think it's the media just driving it was the special series isn't. this is this is the interesting thing about it i think is that the establishment is now willing in these revelations from donna brazil and the other d.n.c. staffers the show that the bipartisan establishment is willing to give up the clintons in this mess and what they're going to do if they don't keep still and accusing clinton of this hearing you want to you in a collaboration of rush and so forth what they're going to do is they're going to
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see ok you know. you're right and we're right so both the clintons and the times are you know we're connected to russia and this is all going to be used. to exactly what i'm going to jump in here gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on a system stay with. us i live here here here the. leader. again. we have many things in this world and this is you know.
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why some people take our things all the power just for themselves and. the financial tape on the financial parasite is in the body economic and it's destroying us from within this predation that's happening in the pharmaceutical industries just other aspects of the host that we have become for the parasites and
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the pharmaceutical industry in australia and other various industries and so what's the cure for how to get rid of the tape how to get rid of a parasite. welcome back across like we're all things we consider. we're discussing a rigged system. ok let's talk about the world of russia gate and indictments where do we stand mark well with the indictments that were that were issued last week as expected. it's the indictments against paul the metaphor trumps former campaign advisor and one of his aides robert gates have absolutely nothing to do with the election they have nothing to do with russia and they have nothing to do with donald trump these are all look into his finances now whether the mueller. trying some tactic that the
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f.b.i. uses against organized crime trying to put pressure on him on a completely unrelated completely helpless criminal investigator flip him and get him to testify on something else as presuming there's something else there and we get to george papadopoulos this this poor hapless incompetent junior who obviously the law too and very well informed floyd he wanted to inflate himself and you know what gentlemen he got his fifteen minutes of fame the only thing he's been charged with is lying to the f.b.i. about his connections with russia which he didn't have right you know it was interesting why not michael flynn. he's not forgotten i think he's got he's made it maybe and maybe because what mark you said there with metaphor in gates there's no russia connection is more of can you create is this it actually this or that is it we can't let you know but with flynn it could be turkey again not russia
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look their whole point of this is to force you know both man and forth multimillionaire who is used to a very comfortable way of life and the last thing he wants to happen to him is to spend the rest of it in. jail not because if he's going to be convicted on these twelve judges that it's unlikely said even on that for these charges on what is going to be a life sentence for him he's over fifty he's going to you know she's seventy yes he's not going to last eighty years there's no guarantees that any of these charges will actually stick considering considering what's brought against these people what kind of force they're going to stick if miller and they're making a statement once these charges to stick they're going to stick and when the courts no no is this so he what this really want you know to do with this he believes that these he faced with these charges when afford them to get the sound of his the rest of his life you know. he is going to see. not not even necessarily wants to
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but what's expected of him and he's going to give that there's any that mueller ones that i don't know that's the legal counsel that's trying to port in a heartbeat and they found he could pardon himself in a heartbeat keep are those when a fourth it's going to be a storm in washington and they're going to be the model that i'm being. taken out of the white house it's built the which way it's going to happen it is what we're really looking at right now. because here's a look like as a mother will tell you you're a frequent guest on this segment ok we're going to keep track of what you have to say because you have a pretty consistent view of what's going on here i think metaphor he's an establishment figure status and sleaze ball with a capital he knows this way this game is played and he saw george w. bush pardon scooter libby and you know he's perfectly willing to chill for a few years fight this in court and then be pardoned but with an outgoing trump or
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one who wins real life but he'll also remember the case of g. gordon liddy who unfortunately for him had to go to prison well nixon didn't well i think you know with poor matter what i have no sympathy for him because he's a lobbyist how can you have sympathy for him yes but but he did not want to damage the american establishment he walked for victory on according to one victory on a court which was not and then email of the united states just to look at obama's statement along the line for now because history he every high reserves you worked for the ukrainian president yulia tymoshenko mueller's indictment that's how she was i mean ration are they running what kind of circus are they running there if i did it which really is your turn from the atlantic council there on the russian foreign ministry just this month he was working for you and of course you look at the bottom of statements from profiles online about your records at the time the united states would decide. pointed with lucian because they quarrelled with their
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child and they were completely corrupt so at the time a bomber said that maybe you don't know what which could be respect in democratic norms respecting democratic norms the american you speak means trouble in their american lives and he was a lawyer he got a clue to what hope and he was a liberation ok he got elected and if you had pointed out on this program before the day before the goo in february two thousand and fourteen all the european leaders were very friendly to mr unocal house and the next day he would resign and grab yes but the point is that it was not metaphor which changed it was their party line the changed and the party line by changing you know kind of brought disaster to mr monochord and the problems here but given what we think i agree with you but gentlemen we also have again it's not widely known because liberal media doesn't want to talk about it but the connections between protest brothers and metaphor i don't think i don't think in four is worried as you may think i think he has old
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you know if i'm going to go down a lot of people are going to go with me and i think i think washington knows that ok so i'm not sure your scenario is going to work out just that way but i think that actually everyone and yes ok if you look at the if we look at what's going on basically a trump is no using clinton of being a russian agent and just as brother who walked with metaphor create he want to continue using be the british agent you know what it reminds me off here off and barrier in style and stance declared millions of people have been british changes all the way to die being executives as british agents themselves we need any more difficult than it danny and steve you know we need to get it passed. russian agents . we're going to go back to the times of mccarthy and then a member of them occurred. and that at some point. mr mccarthy
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he went too far and he thought he started accusing me. staff of collaborating with with the soviets with no evidence of course and the one that wonders where is going to where that point is going to be true and when that point is going to be. just too far but there is the that's a good point but there there is unlike with mccarthy as you pointed out there is evidence ok maybe we should get rid of the word collusion because collusion is not a crime ok but the dossier that the dossier is front in center and we need a lot more explanation about it in its ties to the democratic party i mean we started out we know the democrats were in debt twenty million two million but the democratic party has ten million or more to pay for a fake dostie i think a lot of questions need to be asked to do so unlike with mccarthy where it is just you know accusations there's
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a lot of evidence to look at but it's not the story now is that if we look at recent history in the united states with saddam hussein when he was fighting iran and when he was using chemical weapons against the iranians let's not forget that so the problem is that the united states has become a real to put it there instead which changes its foreign policy every ten or fifteen years and people who who supported that border see fifteen years ago happen to be criminals today in their thrown under the bus i want to talk about this twitter thing more because it's again this political corruption that's rigged system is creeping into the investigation the russia game probe in congress twitter yeah so all during these investigations we we heard reports from all these anonymous deep state current or former officials and the other big buzz word we've heard is russian linked russian link this russian link that what is what is russian linked well. the big social media and tech c.e.o.'s facebook twitter google and
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others came to testify before the senate mccarthyite russia gate which on trials they did twitter defined russian linked for us i think it's sport pray tell tell us all if you have any any russian email account that is going to rule. out anything like that your russian agent your russian linked russian h i think there's an account on the from talk to you if you're on that for if you have a russian mobile phone you're criminy if you have a russian credit card you're a russian agent if you have ever once logged into social media from a russian ip address which means every western journalist in moscow and anyone who has ever visited russia and check their faces if you are a criminal if you have russia as your declared country or if you used to really. use a rare items of i mean almost every single night here and then two more points but
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if you i called to preach made mad to russian six months ago and claimed to report it to rumors and agent who do you report you know if you want to know if you also if you are sorry if you will sad that you were going to organize a meeting with hope which is now if you and didn't believe it and if you are a russian agent or one of those interesting google it made into google which also owns you tube admitted that russia broke no rules r.t. during its promotion of a hand to promote ourselves as an illegal what twitter revealed is their attack on the election because they censored the election they identify according to this b.s. criteria as russian linked two percent of of the activity. that they highlighted during the election but they censor they deleted twenty five percent of all posts. with the hash tag the e-mails and forty eight percent of all
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posts with the hash tag the d.n.c. leaks and by the way just yesterday twitter then clearly didn't need to. carry babies with a clear censorship during the election hiding information there was damaging the clinton they did you know i saw a little bit of the hearings gentlemen i was embarrassed i was embarrassed for the tech giants i was embarrassed for congress i mean it was like idiots talking to fools i mean i need it's almost like you know stalin i need names i need names i need name there were going to be a definition asked for a definition to define the difference between a bot and a troll because they didn't know what i actually feel for the tech giants it's a strange situation where you actually feel for the tech trends because they're not the ones that very much. see the storm but the see the pressure they want to look
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at you know what's really they want some you know is that they are going to open they're going to allow themselves to be censored and i'm very very detrimental way and you know what gentlemen we're rapidly running out of time this will destroy their business model and alternatives will come into place to replace them because they're trusting the government that's all the plan you have time for gentlemen here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t.c. next time and remember. here's what people have been saying about redacting tonight. you are exactly the full on
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you know turban one hundred seventeen the bolsheviks led by vladimir lenin seized power and set out to build the most equitable society on of the fall on the other countries followed russia's example so far the recipe for universal happiness remains of use if people are still searching to this day. you could be. fairly easy a lot of were shown it by did it got up. to treat. can we even remember the events of a century ago and if so why is that we went out in search of people who view
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russia's nine hundred seventeen revolution as a global event. first of all we went to visit a leftwing ideologist and famous french philosopher. so. maybe it's not supposed to know if your books focused on the bus. and the. it's difficult for me to address. the lord as you already but take up a pretty good feel as if to post yeah go on for some dot. who post them can you prove all.
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