full of systemic deficiencies at the u.n. security council russia slams a probe into a chemical attack in syria. these a lot of pictures for you from the pro independence rally this is taking place in the counting capital buffaloed of the region currently power lines by general strike the scene protesters block plans government was behind the attack which left more than eighty dead and also to the meeting of the u.n. security council and he was less than enthusiastic about the report he pointed out to many problems with the report in many aspects of the way the investigation was done relying on third parties as being rather on satisfactory studies the.

investigators carried out the work the report to school of admissions. well immediately after hearing the report from the o.p.c. w. we heard from nikki haley the u.s. ambassador to the united nations now when she spoke she praised the joint investigative mechanism or the gem to its conclusion it makes note of any irregularities it found in the information obtained from the investigation many developments are in the works others talk of a new resolution russia and china working together with the united states to draft a new resolution but as of yet it's not clear what's next for the o.p.c. w. or the joint investigative mechanism as they continue their work in syria. earlier russian military experts presented their own conclusions saying the attack could not have been carried out by a syrian jet as they say norm were within range also they say no fragments from an aerial bomb were found russian explosives experts maintain that an improvised

devices been used one which had been placed on the pavement at the time of the attack the west was quick to point the finger at damascus long before any official findings were released the head of the joint investigation said that even if experts had visited the site of the attack it would have changed nothing in their findings and conclusions you also said that the body takes great care to ensure its methodology is technically sound but that's not a view investigative journalist rick sterling shares. they've got a very shaky conclusion and even their report indicates that the number of various irregularities definitely an understatement the report it's knowledge that there were fifty seven victims transported to five different hospitals before the attack even. so how do you have a big good look at the terror or how. they acknowledge in the report that they cannot confirm that there were syrian chair over country at the time of the

incident which nobody you know showing syrian jets the syrian air force says they were not going to take you and they were apparently another town and actually the u.s. radar tracking that syrian jet fighter says there's no closer than five kilometers from conflict so in addition to that any investigation an essential component of it is looking motor who has a motive or a chemical weapons incident in syria obviously it's the opposition and the syrian government has every motive to prevent or never to have that happen. the cia director mike pump aoe has come under fire for a meeting with a former intelligence official over the alleged hacking of the democratic party back in twenty six think the u.s. intelligence community laid the blame for the hack on moscow. william binney a former national security agency official turned whistleblower he believes the

half of the democratic national committee was in fact a link carried out by a d.n.c. employee also coauthored a memo to the president on the issue which some of dubbed him a conspiracy theorist many of also question pompei on his motives and his relationship to president trump. i'm pleased to say we can bring you a firsthand account of that meeting now because joining me live on the line is william binney who is the former technical director for the n.s.a. and it's a pleasure to have you on with him and let's let's try and do what i know you say you like to do which is let try and get to the truth of the matter about your report and everything else around it so first of all could you just tell us what was your meeting about a few more details how long did it last what was said well last about an hour and it was about russia gate and trying to get to truth what facts do we know and what could we say clearly and you know what we what do we feel it meant so i went

through the technical data that we as the veteran intelligence professionals who have technical experience all of the technical data that we had available and could look at the analyze and from there it was very clear that it was a local download because of the speeds in all i mean we've even tried to transfer data across the atlantic through the web. and see what speeds we could achieve the most we got was like twelve megabytes per second and you needed at least thirty eight megabytes just to pass the data not counting housekeeping so that meant that the capacity was about one four to one eight what would be necessary to transfer that data to somewhere in europe for example as i understand though i mean i just want to challenge you on what he says i want to challenge you on this really because i read that one of the members of your your kind of team that was working on this not that they disagreed with you but they weren't so convinced and i mean convinced that this was definitely the case that this had to be

a download is it's not possible to transfer that speed. best we got was from a data center in new jersey to a data center in the u.k. and the best was twelve megabytes per second that's what i said was one fourth the one eighth the necessary capacity to transfer that data at the rate it was download so it had to be done locally so why do you think your you know some of your team went social well i think they were buying into the emotionally generated agenda driven. drivel that was being passed around by the mainstream media in the u.s. there was out there was no substantive evidence anywhere if they could produce some factual evidence that we could look at and analyze fine but so far they produced absolutely nothing i mean it treating the american people like pavlov's dogs through repetition they'll believe anything and so therefore that's the way they're treating us which i think they're underestimating the american pop population here we all understand and can see right through this facade so you go to the cia

director or you meet with him and you've got this what seems to be pretty hard evidence certainly worth looking at the very least i would have thought so what was his reaction to it. well i thought he. first of all i gave him one of the main issues i was there telling him was that i didn't believe the intelligence agencies were telling him or the president the truth that was pretty clear to me because they were saying high confidence this i confidence that but when it comes down to it they've produced absolutely nothing to prove any of their assertions that the point is that for example in the cuban missile crisis president kennedy produced the photography from the u. two plane of the missiles in cuba and that was very clear evidence that that was true and that raised the crisis to a point then finally got resolved it was glad to have that happen and that's that and then president reagan when the north koreans or the russians shut down the.

korean airliner over suckling island he released the air to ground control of the fighter where the russian ground controller ordered them to shoot me that was that was basically japanese intercept so that that that they are clear evidence of people who are releasing evidence when they have it and when this is a serious situation and the people are going to call this kind of situation an act of war they need to put up or shut up and not and not simply throw out the allegation expect us to lay over like pavlov's dogs and believe what they're saying after all look at what they said about the tonkin gulf affair what they said about weapons of mass destruction. and what they testified about spying on u.s. citizens in the congress i mean you can't believe them what they'll say produce some kind of evidence they have no credibility now that you know general experience from working with then you didn't tell just community that you have to be very skeptical of the evidence they give to the the leader of the country. yes specially when it comes from the higher ups in the agency because they change the story to meet their agenda. and i mean i experience a lot of that internally in n.s.a.

when i was working they're lying even internally in n.s.a. lying to one another not counting lying from agency to agency or even to the government itself congress or anybody else why is not the agency think it's it's above the law or above the president and i think that running the country well yeah they figure that. obviously they think they're above the law because they cannot write lie and everybody they get discovered like like clapper did the congress or like alexander did the congress where they went in and said they're not spying on us citizen when in fact they are and as kemp it's come out over time with edward snowden and various other leaks and some of the some of the reporting that's been picked up from the pfizer court saying you're violating the pfizer regulations and you're that comes from the pfizer court itself and they even compromised some of the internal affairs of inside n.s.a. where they had a program they called internally love intelligence love and where the n.s.a.

analysts were looking at the data that they've collected to see if their lovers were cheating on and i mean that's a clear violation of the constitutional rights of everybody in the in the country so we can get about people meeting with money at the end of the meeting was there any suggestion that you would discuss it in the future role is that the end of the month of finale. no actually he did say he he asked me well he asked me what my relationship with the f.b.i. was and i said i said well that's time i saw them they were pointing guns at me. so that was in two thousand and seven and but he did ask me if i would talk to the n.s.a. and the f.b.i. again i guess he was interested in getting assessments of what i thought they were saying was true or false i am right now it's clearly false to me as far as i can see him. information out there suggesting that pompei met with you on the suggestion of the president did he say anything to you about that about why he was

meeting with you well yes well this was the hopeful sign for me anyway he said the president is that told him that he he should talk to me to try to get some facts on the russia gate issue and so that that was the opening statement from him in the meeting and so i thought there was very hopeful here they're trying to find out what the truth is but it also is indicative of the fact that they're not getting the truth from their own intelligence people and that's really bad i think some people out there will say you know this is the people who don't like donald trump will say that he's trying to divert away from all accusations of collusion with russia and he's trying to put any kind of blame well anywhere but on himself well what would you say to that well i don't buy into mindless dribble without any factual evidence and that's basically what they are what their situation is there is zero evidence. only thing they say is well the intelligence committee f.b.i. and n.s.a. and cia you know say that this is true well they said it was true about weapons of

mass destruction and so when they killed a few hundred thousand people they said it was true in the intel in the tonkin gulf affair and we went kill them over a million people you know and they said it was true in syria and we shot missiles at that well come on where was the evidence for any of it and there wasn't any. point you can't believe them you have to challenge them so it's interview that you want to say you wrote this memo back in july why was it taken so long for donald trump to become interested in it you think well i i guess i brought it up on some fox television shows. tucker carlson's show also sean hannity show and i think he watches those programs over the last couple of months and i brought that up several times and he may have seen that and said well it looks like the only place where i can get any evidence because he's certainly not getting it from the from the intelligence community now you've explained how this

was about the speed of downloading data to go a little bit deeper on this in your memo you have explained if you could explain to our view is what exactly your findings based on. based on the timestamping of the data being taken off the production i did by goose for two by the way for the downloaded data on the fit that july two thousand and sixteen and i came down into sets. two sets of data about forty seconds apiece a total of. eighty seven seconds with the time gap close to twelve minutes between . and. they took down one one thousand nine hundred seventy six megabytes not bits of data which is about sixteen gigabits of data and if you back then in that time of back in two thousand and sixteen our i was buying through the cosco or company sixteen gigabit thumb drives now if you going to download sixteen gigabit

it done right this is my my view of it doesn't doesn't mean it's true but if you don't have download sixteen gigabytes of data you don't want to do it on one sixteen gigabit drive because you might lose something so you split the data into parts and take it down into parts or you insert the thumb drive download the first segment take that out put insert the next one find out where you left off and start download the rest of it which it's kind of what happened that's my guess at what happened all i know is it came down sixteen gigabytes of data in eighty seven seconds and that's not you can't end with a high rate of download transfer transfer data as thirty eight megabytes and that's bytes not bits per second which is not supportable by the network worldwide is this into over the source of the information i mean the critics they're going to well critique everything that what about two point zero those sales of russian operative he works for the russian government didn't even have actual access to the server can you be sure of these things well i can i can only be sure that it didn't go

across the network so it's locally downloaded. that's the only thing i can be sure of who goose or two is i don't know and nobody's produced any evidence again i mean everybody is speculating and they're going with their own agenda an emotionally driven. justification for it so i mean if anybody's going to make an assertion give a fact so we can look at it examine it and for ourselves and be sure that it is true and we can build it and analyze it i mean we've been looking for data to analyze all along the only thing we found was the date on the sixth of july twenty sixth download and also our experience and what we were trying to do with transfer of data across the atlantic i mean i had some some fairly experience hackers in europe who tried to fix to download that data across the atlantic and they could not do it and when you spoke about wi on the lies the data is that meaning i was reading about an expert forensic case or is this a person who was an allies in the data fully. well he was looking at the data yes

and so were about five or six other people. and i was looking at the output of that trying to assess that. just to verify it and then we also tried to test it in the real world not in the speculative world trying to do the transfer to make it something that would be compatible with that download rate and we could not achieve that either so you'll confident the level of a lot of the people that you had on this oh sure i mean we did it we had no other technical data or factual evidence to analyze everything else is just speculation and agenda and emotionally driven assertions. your reputation or you spoke just before the interview you know you're not a huge fan of being called a whistle blower in that sense more of a reluctant hero but you did ask questions about chatting a light on the truth about misappropriation of funds use of funds the likes of

c.n.n. in the past of being quite flattering when when speaking to you as i understand now though they and other outlets in labeling you a conspiracy theorist when you've been going on about this latest story do you feel the change in kind of approach towards you now that they're viewing you differently or certainly trying to trade differently well you see there's a they have a problem of course because they've been asserting this kind of. speculation of gender driven stuff for over a year now and it would be kind of difficult to go back after that so but i mean to me it basically shows the the shallow weakness of the argument when you have to throw labels at people instead of dealing with any factual evidence do you think enough has been done so far you've had this meeting a minute and a where might compose going to take this but based on the you know the the information you provided has enough action been taken to look i mean you just want the truth then if we don't to look into this yeah yes no there they haven't done

enough in fact the f.b.i. knows a lot more about this than they're telling anybody so it is n.s.a. but they're not saying it either so and they're not telling that this is information i'm getting from other sources i don't have it substantiated but they need to come forward and say exactly what they've got so far they've not done that . william i appreciate you coming on speaking to is it's been great talking to you former technical director at the n.s.a. william binney is my guest thank you. thank you. ok let's move on to the day's other big story spain's constitutional court has officially a null catalonians declaration of independence meanwhile a general strike has brought the region to a halt with pro dependents activists blocking roads and stopping trains in major cities in a protest over the jailing of regional leaders did accuses them of rebellion and sedition and deems the independence secularization illegal. i

of roads have been blocked by the protests in boston the police clash with demonstrators as officers trying to remove them from a motorway also cut off the regional route usurer only connecting spain to france and as your own a trace station hundreds of protesters broke through a police cordon. i. i i i i i i i. and i can discuss the story now with the founder of the barcelona republic think tank i said what. edouard. pro independence protesters blocking it said almost fifty roads in catalonia we've already seeing clashes with the police are you

concerned that we're going to see violence the sort of things that we saw in the actual referendum day. nono no way. dependence movement it's so quiet pacific and. so in one being any by a lens anyway just a little bit of tension but not not by a lens i don't think so. spain's prime minister said he's expecting december's regional elections in catalonia to bring peace to the region do you think this will resolve the matter. no way i'm pretty sure that in twenty first officer of the denver independents will win again so we will be in the same place same results may be better results for independents so the political problem will. one of the songs so if. prime minister doesn't sit down

and dialogue with the parliament of the colony it one be an astonishing probability but it seems that every step in madrid is taken to stop catalonia breaking away the response has been a wave of protests coming from the public a surprise the spiritual authority have tried to be a little bit more conciliatory in their approach. this i haven't heard you saying that every seems that every step the government has taken over over catalonia is bid to become independent it's been met with protests by the members of the public a surprise the spanish authorities haven't tried to negotiate sit down and talk over this a bit more yeah. yeah it's. really surprising because if you have politics issue in your country you must sit down and dialogue that's that's politics not if you're just adalius over there and that you can

solve the problem i think it's not a good. choice for the spanish government so i'm. really surprised about the reaction of the spanish government. what about catalonia is sacked president is still in brussels is on his own bail with four other former officials but do you think the former leaders will be deported back what happens to them next. and. i think that may be a belgian judge may i study here the case and we are sure that there are. no case there is no revealing. submission. so i think that the justice in belgium will. that would say that. the president would someone could stay free.

and would appreciate you coming on to r.t. edward theo's my guest founder of the past learn and republic think tank. ok on to other news now the u.s. and north korea of traded insults again pyongyang is called trump the lunatic old man before adding that washington is not fit to act as a judge of human rights this after president trump described north korea as a hell that no one deserves that during his stop in seoul as part of his asia tour and as usual trump didn't miss a chance to stick it to north korea on twitter he released the warning video accompanied by a rather dramatic soundtrack the response of. the strong words isolate. our response. our attitude to. this danger to get. us. out. we will come and see.

us. secret the. president is now in china for the next much anticipated leg of his trip visit has actually already proved fruitful it's been reported that the u.s. and china of science some twenty trade deals with nine billion dollars the chinese side of the may warm up before a bigger ceremony on thursday the spirit can look back at trump and cheese previous meeting. as donald trump arrives in china on his five nation asia tour it's now the chinese president's turn to roll out the red carpet just six months ago the chinese leader came to washington and the two hit it off bonding over chocolate cake but trump couldn't help but be a bit sciatic all during the dinner topping the magnificent dessert with a show of washington's military might we had the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you've ever seen and president she was enjoying it so what happens is i

said we've just launched fifteen missiles. heading to iraq and what were you headed to syria yes heading toward syria trump loves his weapons so much he thinks they're the solution to every problem and when the threat is as serious as north korea all the other countries in the region must be armed to the teeth and prepared to respond well that's the idea he's been trying to sell on his asia trip so far in both japan and south korea prime minister the band is going to be purchasing massive amounts of military equipment as he should south korea will be ordering billions of dollars of that equipment we make the best military equipment by far we make the greatest military equipment in the world the f. thirty five fighter which is the greatest in the world the greatest in the world missiles of many different kinds whether it's planes whether it's missiles we make the best the greatest military equipment by far in the world be purchasing it from

the united states. thank you very much. now trump is counting on the chinese president to back him up as he puts pressure on pyongyang president xi where we will be tomorrow china has been very helpful we'll find out how helpful so on but he really has been very very helpful while it's often said that diplomacy is merely seduction in another guys so the question is will trump's efforts to seduce the chinese leader carry over and will he be able to strike a sweet deal for the u.s. some marathon party washington d.c. . coleman director of the u.k.'s crises research institute in oxford believes that the weapons pushing allies to boy abunda leave china concerned his willingness to sell and indeed his insistence that japan and south korea must buy sophisticated american anti missile technology is something that worries trying to particular to

a lesser extent russia because of course these kind of anti-missile systems based in south korea or japan might provide defense against north korea but the dollars would also reach deep into the people's republic of china and be an intelligence threat to china itself so one reason why china would like to comb the issue is so that particular south korea. being pushed into buying american military equipment and intelligence governor whitman could provide the u.s. with these into china itself which will those provide a kind of defense against any possible maverick north korean missile we appreciate you joining us here this evening on our team international i'll be back with the very latest news headlines see you at the top of the hour.

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