prescribe medication is widespread on the us market and a frequent cause of death at that point in my life i just felt like everything was ashes my family was literally coming unglued i had actually planned. to commit some sight was all who was made antidepressants so commonly used we were doing what the doctors told us to do we were being responsible and what the real side effects. was is terminally alter what i did was done on a cocktail of lethal drugs. just because something's legal doesn't mean it's safe here's what people have been saying about rejected in the us is a full on author of the only show i go out of my way to launch you know what it is that really packs a punch oh yeah it is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same we are

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welcome to worlds apart the basket of international crises has created a situation in which humanitarian commitments increasingly look more like you told me and ideals and legal obligations faced with meager budgets and the need to help more and more people it's easier to just look the other way or force the problem to a neighbor what does it take not too well to discuss that i'm now joined by francesca rocket the newly elected president of the international federation of the red cross and red crescent societies well mr olcott thank you very much for your time and congratulations on your election thank you thank you very much it's probably the worst time to be in charge of the i.f.r. c given both the a growing scope of humanitarian needs and the man's challenge of

securing the funding to meet them why would you even want these kind of job but let me clarify for us all that this is not our job i. don't care paul starr and i am of all. i'm not paid for my position i've been a volunteer and in my national society for many years this is a is a passion for fashion for humanity try to improve. the way in which we need to get there and for me this is my goal is my priority having the honor and the responsibility to do it in the most important most relevant or going to your money door it's really an honor well mr rocca because it's a volunteering effort how do you keep your faith in what you're doing alive seeing the misery defiled lens the suffering proliferated to an extent they have been. yeah. this is. a mission i am not the only one seventeen million

people that i've decided to dedicate your life to to set of humanity. over to you in on our legacy oh of course. to sacrifice part of our work time and i mean really the first. prize and these are our families our friends but this is why we decided to. we now are going to dish and in the red cross red crescent. volunteers based for the volunteers out of the core action the local level and do my best to bring the volunteers voice. please of the ward because this is where this will be my my role in the next four years now mr ok i know you rely on volunteers but you also have to work with local actors including local governments and i may be cheapest a mistake but it's a common view here in moscow that this so-called international community has no

problem coming together to create problems like the ones we observe in the middle east or north africa but it's very very rarely joins hands in order to solve the am i being too negative. if a little crowd. the capacity. of the international community and the government to fix the problems that are causing so many suffering of course there is nothing to be optimistic but if a look of the capacity of humanity of each human beings to do. to be even a party to the other human beings in pain. every day saw the problem is that we have to speak up we have to do to clarify and to call to the governments to improve the. tomb protect the life of those in need to protect the life of those. risk especially in the war zone those are leading the consequences of climate change as an example but mr olcott i assume that this

is what you have been doing in your capacity. while working in many positions for the italian red cross at a time when your country was say see the influx of challenges of refugees from multiple wars and demand the region and that it was a challenge that italy by and large had to face on its own didn't dot experience undermined your faith in solidarity in. this period so that i had in this year of course that we found a lot of so that you have the beginning but then because the lack of vision on all of our of our policies created the perfect environment to make the. the rushes to increase because originally it is wasn't up in the top and he immediately and. there was a lot of solidarity then when they looked at the discussion come to better

distribute to relocate the people and we found that there was this kind of quarter the wall where. these us created. phenomena of russ's itself or be about if this didn't happen the. maybe we couldn't work a bit better you know what communities up in it for a very long time but to mr ok and to be fair. hasn't been created out of nowhere i mean if you look at the number of refugees around the world it increased by seventy percent in last than a decade so if you only focus on response do you really thing you can. see any results coming up here after because it seems that even if you try to how those in need there will always be more and more significantly more people coming. for how to later on i fully agree with you on the spot about this is not the this is.

this is the failure of the lack of vision of the of the international community because of course it's not about to take care of it's even about to fix the causes of migration yes i think when i started to be a volunteer in ninety eight at the time we were receiving in italy the migrants and the refugees coming from the horn of africa thirty years later we are still receiving people coming from this same zone and not seeing us changed so this is a complete failure of the international community we should put. far from from the disposition of the people so the problem for us as humans i don't usually take care of the people but when you are confronting the communities you have to explain the reason why even about the failure of the politics of the failure of the policies that has been set up to avoid the people sleep their homes and their houses because

no one that is escaping or should thank reach europe is happy to do it or no one is to try to cross the mediterranean with these rubber boats and i see that many of the people they see themselves not to. to escape from their country they were not migrants before the war saw this is this is their wages that we have to do us to ourself and to our governments and politicians well mr ok it sounds as if you're asking the ordinary people to clear out of the mass the politicians have created which is fair but only to a certain extent the un high commissioner for refugees philippa grandy an italian like yourself recently spoke before the security council urgently calling for the need and what he called cataclysmic conflicts which drive mass displacement and it's interesting because italy was a very active participant in both the iraqi i believe be an intervention is it also

played on the side of the west in the syrian conflict i appreciate your call your appeal to the ordinary people i also appreciate so many italian humanitarians taking on the international leadership roles but do you think may change the view of the political elite in eataly on the advise ability of military intervention. yeah look this is something that we did and we tried and. politics is not so different from the their rest of the war so the problem is that . our party the politicians sometime are looking for today and then. in the fall for the future i'm not selling that. the government didn't make any mistake i'm telling you that this is the responsibility that we don't have to focus when we when we talk about. these kind of phenomena is something that.

involve the international community not only a single going county then in this single country we have to advocate for to stop the causes of migration on the and to our government and our communities understand that we have we have to fix because of migration talking about immigration just as an example mr reich i don't want to be too argumentative here but when you talk about the international community it's too general of a time because as you know perhaps russia or china wasn't dot and c.z. asked about the american or the western lot after it's in iraq or in libya or in syria so let's be more specific here do you see do western i fully understand your point and i would try to answer the best they can. when they when they talk i don't want to be naive. and i'm not i if i can assure you when we talk about international community of course we are talking about. the count trees that have

the power and that many of the causes and this is something that involve a lot of countries so it's up to them to discuss i mean you money have to take care of people and when i call. and when i take. all of the people we need this is part of my duty is but then at the same time i had to advocate and to call for action so i will calm any initiative that brings to the dialogue or bring to new policies included the rush owing to the usa this is i don't make anything of these variances on this aspect because when that when the people is suffering any person involved in the international dialogue and is an international actor is responsible for the for the suffering is causing these lack of dialogue a huge lack of action in fixing the causes of of migration well some may be more

responsible than others to be honest i don't think the people are. suffering always is stuck in the detention center libya is wondering if the thirty percent of the responsibilities of coming from one country the seventy one or the seventy percent is coming from another i think that both parties must see and discuss how to alleviate the softness of these people and this is this is the point i'm not i'm not pointing anyone please i am i'm telling that there is a common responsibility when we talk about only one county i mean on the right side of the truck this is these are mistakes starter i think that we have to see that we have to discuss how to improve our capacity to alleviate this offer and solve the human being or to avoid the what causes so for instance to the human beings well mr rock i fully agree with you my point was that as you consider possible ways of dealing with the current crisis you he should also be aware of the same

consequences if you apply the same methods in the future that's that's my only point i think there is a pattern of intervention and leaving out the consequences for the people on the ground that this is something that surely has to be remedied and i know that you also have actually a solution for that you are in favor of craig. these so-called illegal groups particularly out of libya which you believe would be critical for closing this rainy and human smuggling highway why do you think this idea is so far matched with so little enthusiasm from the countries involved look. even more clear and more tough gauging or as a president of the talent of crossing the gauging my government on this just to be very clear because of course i talk about legal rules i've also said that this is a very important a good location for the government or for the italian government and for the e.u.

to engage the libyan authorities to do sign of the geneva convention and improve the capacity to protect the life of those the needs of those. that are fleeing the violence and war and this could be a good sign because in my experience of iran the libyan authorities was to sign an agreement about all this and not about human rights and about the protection of the dignity or to subscribe to the geneva convention of the fifty one g.'s and this is something that. isn't a question that my my government as a president of the italian the across the and i spoke out very very clearly and of course if there is someone who is fleeing violence of course i speak about. a call for a legal route because they must be protected this is my duty from the day on which i took the office two days to go through as

a president of the international federation everywhere i will have the opportunity to speak out on beyond four of those they cannot the most vulnerable it's and this is will be my need and we will meet i hope in the future and you will see that. i don't mean any kind of discount to anyone mr speaking about the legal routes given the and control power also. in libya and the fact that there are already many thousands if not millions of migrants and refugees from all over africa gathered in doc country many of them without proper documentation. why do you believe that the establishment of several processing centers is going to change anything imaginable way look technically talking. is a country in war so in this moment who have free cannot be. brought big. libya so this is. a point oh my point

of view you are talking about the media shows that the role of the media show this is not my world or maybe or is about the level of human suffering and the convention and talking about the protection of the people was fleeing the country. again i think that everyone in this moment in a country war is keeping or cannot be brought in that count so this was the point that they raised several times i. honestly did not idea about to the media shows like that because. i'm not aware i'll bow to always making the violence we know only that there is a lot of violence in this country but i know and this is we have because we have to prove and the evidence is the volunteers of the car you have across yesterday i received twenty six by the of a women that died during crossing them ready to run and this is not set the boat on a set of what we don't know we don't want to see any more bodies of people of

people who are currently in war. being on the coast well mr rocca we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. rigs politics that's what many are saying out of the d.n.c. is acting chair donna brazil claimed bernie sanders was cheated in the primary but the rigging goes further the g.o.p. establishment didn't embrace trump then nor now both parties war with themselves. we all willingly accepted the risk of being shot wounded taken prisoner but noone signed up to be friggin poisoned by our own people that was nuclear biological and chemical products the said do not truck tires all types of styrofoam

polystyrene batteries trucks there was a complete denial i think at all levels of government that there was any connection between pits and what these brave soldiers were suffering from to compensate every soldier marine airman and sailor that was on the ground that are complaining about illnesses from their exposure from the burn pits would really literally send to be a pro and they don't want to pay it so the waiting decades a lot of those soldiers will die in time and they will have to pay the. cultural and get the middle finger of the beast and while there is. delayed and i hope you don't. even. conditionally to get to class as i live eat good for yourself then.

you need no. need. i d. . be young. again. we have many things in this world this is it will for everyone and why some peoples also take our things all the power just for themselves only to see about that in the human way.

welcome back to worlds apart with francesca rucka president of the international federation of the red cross and red crescent societies mr rockwood just before the break we touched upon the issue of how the european countries should process people from africa or the middle east who are knocking on their doors and i'm going to ask you about the situation in myanmar later on in the program but i want to use it as a point of comparison because one of the sticking points in the myanmar situation is the proof of origin the demand by the myanmar government that the refugees. provide some sort of documentation to prove that they indeed come from the state i wonder how do you think the western governments should deal with the african then

middle east and migration do you think they should allow anybody in even the way to without documents and if that's the case how would do you down ensure that the ride of asylum is respected but not abused. look this is do you have you any is she out for these this is not something you have to ask for me every place and you need a don't ask and i got home i got my i'm sorry for jesus we all really know that in this moment in cox but there are six hundred thousand desperate people was stranded . in a sea of six hundred thousand people but without electricity without water without proper assistance and this is our this is our role and we are trying to provide to rite aid to your your question should be. directed to the to the head though you ensure that maybe is more competent than me on and saying on this question for me

you know only that there are disparate people in need then and this is what they what they see in these people are telling us that these freeing violence then that is not me i am not an investigator or a stop to either read out or it is a very fight if you store or not but we have a lot of disparate issue and we see a lot of consequences from violence and we have to protect these people and this is what we are trying to do there all of the money time and this is not all of the states we take care of the people this is. our role and then there are the government that set up policies and it's up to us to engage them to verify if the policies are not organ. of the people but we protect and we try to give dignity to issue my beings we don't we don't make the difference between with jews are they going to make all migrants alone but mr erakat you are one of the very few organizations with the practical experience on the ground because the governments when they make policies down not very well informed in my if least in my experience

about what is actually happening on the ground in libya in syria an inch yearly on your volunteers would actually no doubt that that's why i think that you know some sort of expertise of from your side would be very welcome don't you think so yes of course of and when we. we provide you all the information that we have about the their life condition then there's a separation the they these people that these people are living in but we have not we don't make that look. because when we talk about our role in this. operation the it's very it's very daily we don't want to be involved in some political issue you know we know that there are six hundred thousand people of the three in my and i am are arriving in bangladesh and it's to us to try to take care of them it's up to our movement of course to open a dialogue to verify if it's possible that they come back safe in their houses. which they are fleeing but this is this is our all there is then you come there to

sponsor bit of the international community don't put on our show that they are there it's kind of responsibility which there is not let me ask you one more question about this intersection between politics and humanitarianism because the syrian war in particular has dramatically changed the humanitarian field it gave rise to many organisations which combined humanitarian activities with political or even geo political activism. via talents would be one of them but there are many similarities ations originating in turkey even in russia and i want to ask you what do you think about these kind of partisan humanitarian is more humanitarian pile of partisanship or whatever you call it does it make your work on the ground easier or harder. become harder because a. this is a very she was ensuring they thank you that you raise this because.

of the your money that he is putting a risk the life of the volunteers and the money to give you money that you're next on the field and the humanitarian action that we should never politicize look i would. i want to answer i want to answer you with a very simple towards to kill for a fairly old brother so this is the motto that they're going you know our founders at least and i did so for you know more than one hundred fifty years ago so after a very terrible bout there because the. war of the independence in italy was a really a terrible war and tens of thousands were lying on the ground with the table suffering and they were. strung that were enemies but the ladies also for you know the women of soul for you know that inspires and you know they said to all brothers because when a people is suffering that is not not belong anymore to a party. is a must see as a human being. brothers this is the way in which you neutrality because

you are not taken by you look to you care of everyone now the syrian conflict has been now somewhat overtaken in the media by the refugee crisis in myanmar you alluded to it a couple of times already and it's be puzzling to me because the this situation in myanmar has been deteriorating not just for years but for decades and all of a sudden everybody woke up to it even though it was pretty evident where it was going for quite some time i know you visited the area i think you visited bangladesh last month what impression did it make on you. look it was a maybe there was a situation that i.e. a ever seen in my money and experience. because six hundred thousand people in five weeks. i think no no one is this b. and c. is

a level of this pressure no was in was immense and. when i well when. i was really good friday i was. without a enough. wars' to explain the level of suffering of the children thousands of children without parents without their relatives and. this is something that shouldn't up and to anyone i visited syria. i've been in god's eye view that's all you can imagine the level of suffering that i've seen in my experience the ninety after the quake in georgia i've been in many places but what they've seen in that context and of course you said this is aids and i agree with you the problem is that we say that this is not the olympic games of this predation unfortunately this is something that up in the every day and this is the crisis but

that this doesn't mean that as you money we are not present everywhere there is a need because we are still in syria because we saw the problem is not about the humanitarian the problem is maybe and i maybe i understand even the reason why the media i'm not follow we always follow we are still in the know what he's talking about we are in the horn of africa and no one is talking anymore about on an obvious only if you will say all this when three hundred people died while we spend the. day and so i was such a talking about. the one single there was a parka e.u. up which another kind of very strange competition.