that they couldn't agree because the american camp was divided they didn't speak with one voice and had this voted with one voice then we could have come to some agreement and i presume the russian side i spoke with one voice they had a poll say they'd worked out a line and so on but there was squabbling on the american side revealing again the weakness of american reinsurance and their inability really to fashion a policy which is a straight line when one is given the impression there's always exactly new can never be sure which direction they're going to go in and after this really fast one could say what president putin then moves on to that is going on to the philippines he'd try and put that behind him and so on but of course the press in america will have a field day because they will they will hide i think has the one mistake or the one failure of it is one that is asian trip because if you go back to his meeting with

xi jinping and the way we receive royalties from previous head royally in beijing and so on and in in china nobody would have accused the chinese of nefarious actions and so on and the americans seem to be speaking with one voice but when it comes to vietnam and now when it comes to president putin then they split and they squabble among themselves and it does not reflect very well in u.s. diplomacy and doesn't reflect very well on the u.s. president now think good to have you on pretty sure if he's not a mcauliffe i guess author and russia analyst. thank you martin thank you guys at home we know you could be many places this saving appreciate you chiming in to international hope to see you at the top of the. news headlines.

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hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things considered. politics that's what many are saying out claimed bernie sanders was cheated in the primaries but the rigging goes further the g.o.p. establishment didn't embrace trump nor now are both parties at war with themselves . cross talking parties in crisis i'm joined by my guest him black in washington he's a political analyst commentator and host of the tim black show in new york we have steve malzberg he is a conservative political commentator and in cairo we cross loria he's an

independent journalist former wall street journal correspondent and author of how i lost my hillary clinton with the forward by julian assange all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate our joe let me go to you first dear the huffington post refugee as we speak right now tell us quickly what happened because it has kind of a tangent to what we're talking about today rigging we're going to talk about winning the election the media is rigged to joe tell our viewers what happened yes i wrote a piece for a consortium news about a week ago in which i showed that the crowd the true source is for the russia gate story were both paid for by the democratic national committee and the clinton campaign in the case of the steel memos so that the source of the information that we have that it actually was the basis for the most part of the january sixth intelligence estimate by three agencies is actually opposition research and the by the dent paid for by the democrats and also the computers was searched by

a company. that they paid for not by the f.b.i. the article goes on to show the consequences of this the consequences of this being a new mccarthyism and a few days ago i posted the same response from them i can only conclude that stevens i think you know maybe it's a little bit of a stretch but i think i know how but i got i called i wrote e-mails i got no response you know. and really she's acquitted herself so very bad haitian i think most would agree but let's not worry about president made these claims i mean they seem to be credible and some of his documented and then she goes out in backtrack human quite. public performance i would say steve go ahead well i mean i can't figure that part out to be honest with yourselves but it's got to be there are metal to this madness is several books that's what it was a sell box yeah but she has she has thrown his she has thrown the party and the

clintons under the bus i mean what is revealed in this book and nobody is denying any of this and bernie sanders you bring up bernie sanders i'd like to hear bernie sanders as as our guest here mentioned censorship call it something bernie sanders like let's move on that bothers the heck out of me i really got to tell you but what happened is that the clintons controlled the whole process it was dishonest we knew it was dishonest because of the wiki leaks dump and then debbie wasserman schultz had to step down and donna brazil is now saying when i took over for did i find a mess but here's what debbie wasserman schultz to here's what the clinton people did here's what hilary yourself did i mean here's what obama did she has torn the party apart and because we don't have adonis media it's not a big story when this is a huge story to him it's like stockholm syndrome they can't let go they simply can't go and you know sometimes that doesn't really bother me because they

really took a fall last year in the election i mean it when your enemies hope the media's taken out in the process the liberal media as this was that new revelations the problem is like you just really did have to be the d.n.c. logistical control staff it contrasts something is maybe a lot of people in washington case you were a conspiracy formal person on this program i want to know your secret please. help rather than look absolutely right i was called a rush it was clear that a number of the g.o.p. of never voted republican over the what they think is the year you can but they're not the fact. they're not thinking that's the problem here let me go back to joe in cairo i mean not being able to let go of this narrative why is it is because they have nothing else or you know if we look at donna brazil they're afraid that the floodgates will break open ok you're a medium one the komi thing you know move there before in his previous in carney

it's all out there that there's a conspiracy a real conspiracy and the whole thrust of the media is completely upside down if there had been collusion or conspiracy between the trump people and russia we would have heard about it a long time ago it would have been leaked ok so joe what is it they don't have an a to alternative or if they start let's give an inch it's going to completely fallen. apart right in front of them and you will continue their humiliation almost one year on go ahead joe but i think the democratic party establishment elite. feel that they are class interests are under assault yes well with the bernie sanders campaign that they see that they need to blame someone else they can never look at themselves and understand that they're embrace of the neoliberal policies from the book clinton days has led to this backlash and says in

american society months workers they're getting fed up they want a new progressive era of the way what happened in the late at the end of the one nine hundred centuries when the major trusts took control of the political process with all the money that they poured into it and then we had a whole raft of laws that try to curb this influence from corporations into politics and including the companies couldn't pay out of their own coffers anymore that was all over thrown with citizens united and with the deregulation of clinton and bush. and reagan we have now a new trust based essentially so a new progressive air is on perhaps the seeds are there and i think that the democratic elite which is tied with this big money is very worried about that now as far as the rank and file democrats they have a kind of. religious faith in their party and their leaders and in the blame that's being assessed completely on russia for having devastated their chances in the last election they when you're dealing with someone who has a zealot one term and their religious belief that they would not be open to any kind of reason or any other any facts that would make forced them to think i think

that's why they often again story was taken down i don't want to be forced to think about what they believe and i almost religious way yeah because you know barack obama because they know he was their great saint ok and hillary clinton was their god and god failed them go ahead jim you want to jump in yeah i want to say they called it a cult done up a zero said this in an interview that was a cult like situation morning joe got us to admit that and what's a cult that's a worshipping that is an. admiration for jim jones make the people drink the kool-aid well a lot of democrats have drink and have drank the kool-aid if it comes to hillary clinton it is time to turn the page on to joe peter just a little bit i don't know get her go ahead see because i was going to say you know the democrats have gotten so have to be here also she go ahead jump in steve. no doubt she also claimed that she was treated poorly because she was black she felt like a slave she was treated poorly because she was a woman by clinton and hart people the clinton people i mean this is huge news

again which will never be talked about look this is no surprise the media first of all they're politically aligned with the clinton philosophy and they love the clintons the clintons could do no wrong you raney him get the connection to the dossier all this is being ignored by the media and when you look at the wiki leaks stuff you sort of mainstream reporters in the liberal media writing to john podesta oh is this ok it's ok well anybody of a hack oh i'm back from republican to hell i was with them for a week i mean this should be no surprise to us and it should be no surprise that you know it's very. interesting with donna brazil you know pulling that the sexism card at me i guess now as a result all for all four of us consider ourselves good feminists because i find that kind of behavior of horror and here i'm serious here can right before we go to the break here. what is donna brazil future is she going to be able to reincarnate

say come back again for the third coming twenty seconds before we go to the break i think she will be coming back i think this is what this is all about she did not like getting pushed out of the party even though she has this little ethics board position she's letting them know hey i've got something to say i'm going to say. she's returning back to the democratic party that's why she's doing this tough thing to get muscle well i'm less as i said earlier i don't think it's necessarily a bad idea for the country but for the democratic party if they continue down the same course i think they're going to get the same results and in the next midterm elections ok gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on parties in crisis and stay with our. fight for many clubs over the years so i know the gang sorry guys. the ball isn't only about what happens on the pitch for the final school it's about the passion

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ok joe i want to i want to shift gears a little bit here i don't want to just keep pounding on the democratic party which i really enjoy doing by the way but let's talk about the republicans here they have a very kind of different kind of problem though i think it's very serious here we have a base that came out for donald trump. districts in counties that were long blue came out red and there is the basis for a movement there but i see the establishment again i have just as much distaste and abhorrence for the republican establishment as i do for the democratic stablish went because they're in cahoots ok they just want to maintain power here this is the real dilemma for the republicans because i don't see that they're making much progress on. adding to what they achieved last year i think they're get can fall

into a deep freeze what do you think go ahead joe i think both parties are in a very deep crisis and i'm enjoying every minute of it i want to destroy each other with the scandals that are on golfing that i'm completely nonpartisan because i can't stand either party and as a reporter i just follow the facts and that's why i wrote that piece about the huffington post took down they couldn't accept that i'm not a trump supported by any means but i don't see a bright future for me the perp. the problem is what's going to replace if it does break down getting big money out of american politics is the key but it goes back to seven hundred fifty eight peter when george washington ran in the region your house and he spent ninety percent of his campaign money to buy one hundred sixty gallons of booze to give out to voters and then we soared andrew jackson with his patronage and then the big trusts oil steel and railroads took over the party then it took over politics in the late nineteenth century and gave us william mckinley who spent four million dollars of corporate money to bring us the overseas american

empire the beginnings of it so there's a real and it's a it's dangerous in some ways and it's going to be chaotic but i think it's hatched to happen and it is happening great story opposition research that what if it been better maybe if let's say that had been put in check last year wouldn't have been better that bernie did get the nomination and then trump i mean there is the most stark difference that i think we could have had in our lifetime as different agendas and i would have welcomed and i would have welcomed an honest election not a rigged election i agree that the rip g.o.p. primary was in rigged but the establishment certainly did everything it could to hurt their most popular candidate in that is a form of breaking so my hypothetical how would you answer that i think of it would have been a much more competitive race i think that bernie would have been a better candidate and it was hillary by all accounts democrat and republican accounts she was an all full candidate and she thought that she was entitled that

she thought it had it she had it coming and she didn't listen to the advice of those around her and so she were i think bernie it would have made it more competitive i do have to disagree that the that donald trump is is really the republican party i'll tell you that donald trump has reinvigorated the republican party i mean he look what he did last year a year ago you know a little over a year ago now what's going on now which was also alluded to correctly is that it's the. can establish mitt it's the mcconnells it's the ryans it's those people it's mccain it's they can stand trial they don't want him to succeed donald trump is doing everything correctly he's doing what he promised he would do when he read and i think that kucing donald trump of being a party to this you know problem within the republican party is not accurate ok joe you want to just throw up is doing it oh look at him go go team in washington let's go to came in washington you had to. just sit there donald trump is doing

everything correctly he hasn't really got to be doing is doing what he's supposed to be a go ahead with the glad hand i know it's going to cairo that's going to hiring him go ahead go ahead joe yes i mean trump did not do what he promised he he did cynically manipulated the desperation of a lot of american working people throwing in a lot of racist racist comments too to bring them along and he's not delivered on any of that he's his legislation has failed because the american people don't want to and that's been made clear in town halls his. health insurance plan this ridiculous tax plan and to say that it's not his fault that he's hurting the democrat the republican party look at the results of the recent election in the u.s. many seats were lost to democrats ok and the lack of you know those who hang on a guy who says they heard age were ok you guys orders are in crisis get both cards are and i think they are in crisis i'd like gentleman with think of two thousand and sixteen i think all of us would agree on the following that it was

a change election a lot of people are very very sick and tired of the establishment parties and what we saw to a great degree was a protest vote now the problem is how do the parties react to that and i think both parties are not the establishment of both parties are not ok i think there are figures in the democratic party that are more progressive guy i'm a conservative guy really conservative i have i kept a really good relationship with a lot of progressive's. i find a lot of common ground with progress on the issues as well it's this establishment republicans in the it's now between democrats i can't i'm barely on speaking terms with them ok because they are fail their signature is failure failure failure ok it's time to shake up the discourse and change narratives tim you're a progressive i think i think we can agree right the absolutely right yes you can agree and it's nice to meet you muffed my friend look peta i look at it like this big money interests is the problem it's not anything other than that it's one of

sixteen wall street all the elections thousands of the fifty five million dollars spent by wall street so then we got back deregulation this is what goes on in america that's the real problem but go about to double trouble and back to the democrats look we just saw what the democrats are capable of doing you gotta give him props on what almost fifteen d. a ses democratic socialists were elected that's the bernie sanders motto of course bernie said this could have won this thing if he was given an opportunity that's why a lot of us was so bitter with the democratic party we had a shot with bernie and we see that bernie's message of populism is resonating across the country speed job anyway and what how do you react to that what then why doesn't bernie speak out good point. i'm sorry peter i think you have a very very good point i saw bernie the other night. i saw bernie the other night and all he said always said was we have to move on where is he where is he where is

this great socialist sticking up for his principles and saying this was a week we were robbed how dare they bring justice nothing he couldn't care less joe let me go to joe you know what hang on let me go to joe here because i'm going to say kind of maybe a harsh thing here but where is the integrity in politics now you know it's the you know when we were growing up you know you remember how people made fun of gerald ford is the you know he was a bungler and all that i mean when i heard his speeches on n.p.r. god forbid i ever listen to that station again this was like ten years ago he sounded like an intellectual compared to what what people say today you know if there's i don't see high caliber people donald trump is in a category all its own have already said on this program in twenty years time there will be a graduate course called donald donald trump studies ok because it is that vast and complex and deep ok but joe answer my question about this caliber of politicians

because i don't see it's there. well i think to certainly the discourse was a lot better years ago but i think that integrity in politics has always been in short supply not only in the united states but around the world so you're you're asking a lot there for integrity but not at leaders running for office to recognize the needs of the electorate where the actual majority of the people have a say and that they're not lied to manipulate it and that they their interest and looked out for i think that sanders at least his rhetoric was that he was going to do that and that's why he was popular so i think popular is a more progressive ism is the only another progressive era we're in a new gilded age it's even more unequal the unequal than the first gilded age and i think there's going to be a new progressive era that has to come about already not a states is in deep deep trouble and that can only come about by by the voices of the interests of the investment yard americans being again addressed on so many different levels ok and the destruction of the liberal policies started from the eighty's and ninety's steve how does trump deal with what joe just said there

because there is a progressive wind in the country as i'm unable to turn it into an electoral success is here particularly since they were the election was rigged in the in the democratic party that is for me moving forward it is hillary clinton's malfeasance and illegal activity immoral activity that is really really gives the highlight flashes a light on the terrible moral status of american politics she and she alone and her husband. well look here here's what i think has to happen i think that the focus of the investigation has to turn to the clintons and everything you just mentioned or another special prosecutor has to be appointed you know there's this school of thought out there that's gaining some steam that this is all a bait and switch that trump appointed mahler and that the fix was in they were going to make it seem like they were going after trump in collusion but they were really good eventually get to the clintons i don't know how they're going to get to

the clintons but they have to if the clintons are held accountable if the clintons are punished legally or otherwise yeah it will put a whole new light on the political system and it will be a warning it will be a big big warning but to let it go on as as just well you know it's only the clintons here we go again leave them alone and nothing happens that will be a horrific thing for us politics steve i think you and in the most logical and sensible note on this program we've run out of time gentlemen many thanks to my guests and watching the new york and in cairo and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember prostate. prescribed medication is widespread it was done to leave

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