i think maybe i have time nobody really either on the e.u. side nor in russia side realize that it was actually approaching that very critical confrontational moment and i want to ask you about the second part of this manichean image of the bride in shiny european union where did that image come from because the european union as successful as it was it was also having its own struggles do you think the clash over ukraine had anything to do with is own internal doubts i don't. think of as a little left to say quite straight the no litterbug to a crane within the european union is very limited i think they have the confrontation. that's a mistake of the west those two specially by the americans by the lives of some brits the new europeans have to say precisely western europeans. those of the other side but come on it's not only the western europeans the poles for example played also quiet there and that event i violated no this is history i think the

confrontation the poet in the world because pulled was moved to he acting on that old he's the old fool bellows and building a business is for a man thing some sort of if you consider all possible alternatives frozen conflict may not be desirable but it may actually be a lesser evil at least from the russian point of view because as you said russia indeed does not want to see nader in your crane now can i ask you the europeans specifically the e.u. position what exactly the e.u. now wants to see in ukraine and i'm not asking you about best wishes in the most practical terms given the underlying causes of this conflict what is the bast possible scenario that the e.u. should be working toward. i think i repeat there is no real strategy of the european union to craned this sort of a lot of different opinions within the european union by the member states for sure

which is quite ok if that is happening and i think sometimes of the reactions are really too primitive. understand i'm not happy about the stand these frozen conflicts that you have put in because it's giving possibility to influence a situation whenever you want to get open the conflict you can close a conflict now i don't think it's about opening and closing the conflict but simply not lobbying nato. consume in a strategic south consume ukraine but what i'm more interested in the ghana is the . is the european factor because every year remember people when they took to the streets they were chanting ukraine is europe and what they meant by that is the european union they had to severe many of their economic ties with russia many of the industrial ties were caught the ukraine is now risking losing income from the gas transit so ukraine has made a lot of sacrifices for what it had cut its ties with russia its surely hope that

it would be embraced by the west more fully not just encouraged but fully embraced and support it it is a right to use the ukrainians wanted their best spectacles a european union but this is not going from monday to the other i think you always miss the sealed you can become busy whens rich member there's a european union you have to fulfill the quotations and then the end and there are a lot of consequences you have already mentioned here that need some time you may arrive through this critique of the representatives of the european union they are not rightly outspoken about his subject i think they never contradicted the two of these hopes but they have never been living any decision opening exists possibility personally i'm convinced it might be right after twenty thirty years i think you did some time to consume the results of his there is good and bad and i think you

cannot reveal it become in europe within winds which should be a short time i think he did some time. proposing on the austrian side several times of those ukrainians they might be clearly a threat or that the because we austrians we have a good experience of those who towards the soviet union the previous time and he. remains we are not really understanding this that the chief declaring the trial of the well let me stop you right here we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. thanks . max keiser financial survival guide stacey let's learn about fill out let's

say i'm not sure i get an earpiece from greece face of the fight wall street hot thank you for taking. on the story that's true. that's slavery. what politicians do something. they put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or some people want to be. with you going to be press that's what will make for free in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters of our. first.

thank you we are useless here i mean good company who gets really want here because we are rethinking. or think all the power just. that nato is not internal security and economic risks what kind of a relationship do you think the west can now realistically offer to your crane as far as integration or security matters go. repeating what i said to about the values but nothing in concrete there was never been a real decision worked i'm sure those that wanted that bridge are very important that all for us and rick but i'm not sure that there was a really precise discussion with the russians how to manage the program or are you totally agree with you moreover i thing the russians really feel the need now to

you put the rest their kong up with that conflict with your current arrest and. hopefully. have europe or the european union take some responsibility for what transpired in that country because king of the subject of a lot of differences not only between west and east here in this context also a bridge that was threatened she had can be really done i think it's a question of political management who here. has to learn to be independent because we have been for a very long time about those over there but isn't that a little bit cruel i'm in ukraine was it had some sort of a symbiotic relationship with russia that relationship was caught very dramatically on the pretext that you know ukraine should aspire to brighter western values and now people in the west are telling your crane come on you're on your own we support you but you're really on. your own despite the fact that it has a very difficult situation not only with russia but also with other neighbors

because it doesn't want to be part of the customs union of its complicates its trade with other countries of the former soviet union is that really fear is that a fair position my idea that this is a program of such tremendous changes i think to leave this over them from one day to the other does that mean that the united will to handle you things on your own way i think he'll need steps and pretty experiences even if you see the real me fixation of those germany is it has still consequences and difficulties internally we've not yet done and even consider your ground it's even more important because here the cuts. even more important also concerning those who say if we go and it's easy to asian but not only on this i think you can see crimea ok now taken by the russians a producer also a program for the russians since it costs a lot of money all it costs

a lot of money by that i think that i know that you believe that crimea is not a finish this year and i actually believe at the agree with you on that i think there will come a time when russia will make an accommodation to ukraine on the issue of crimea not necessarily changing the borders but i'm pretty sure that russia will. at some point of time make sure that ukrainian still very welcome in crimea this is the only way for russia to patch it's difficult if they're really right now you mentioned the energy issue and this is very interesting because three years ago we heard the example the second no strong leg and said to be have the germans and the austrians cost for it. do they even have the ukrainian interest. that each country's pursuing that own it cannot be to friend the friends the austrians or what we did to you is to those obtained his concern exam pipelines that we are able to send energy of of your visions or look as he would back to

karim here we did it but we are playing a minor role of this thing the whole situation is it me those are members changes and for sure there are real background is i think we need a certain way of regulation in the relations between russia on the one side and the european union of the other side i think the energy program has to see in a global context even. and i think that not enough talks on both sides insist that but when you specifically consider that issue of gas transit on the one hand ukraine needs much need needs that kind of income from gas transit on the other hand you don't want to. be worrying about the supply of gas every winter could you seeing and how do you think that decision should be made whether or not that project should be given a green light if you put your crane at the center of all of this i think it will be done only by the okra in the things we need to gentle and range mend the ridges to

obviously extremely difficult because all the arrangements looking for example to the minsk agreement does not really broker because it's not really fulfilled the old come patients this is a very good example because i think it's even merchant that the energy question because here we need peace. the such as the number of week tim still existing i think here we need another behavior concerning bigger jayson's are. really fulfilled. and i think the talks should be open and straight to the subject well i merican seem to be playing a very active role and there seems to be some progress as far as mr. the american representative on your crane is concerned he's proposing he's trying to. deal on the u.n. peacekeeping force and i think russia would generally be in favor of that but the problem is guy is again why that the ukrainian side will be. able to call

parade because politically its options obsession with the new korinos are subject moves realistic and so on and so there's too much politics in that bad of a on this is surreal now i think it's indisputable that what's your craniums wanted during the might i'm proudest of was the change of the governing model and i think it would be if the governing model has not yet fully been do we understand at this point of time willing to learn. of the compound to grind from zero to broker to see but i mean hot hungry i mean thora tearing do you see that in turning to that most authoritarian instincts or is it just a normal learning curve sometimes you go for it sometimes or for a lapse is that part of growing that democratic muscle or is that already something to be a war of about i think you want to be but quite outspoken is his judgment to riches

have been a million hungary the poland and so on it is a pure nonsense i think it's mixed up with history. in one point two lebanese totally riot i think common is human hungary was not really. changed there was no learning curve from serious. but we got out of this as the switched from comedy sticks that to to mo courtesy immediately i think even if those who were not as the new government which was an old communist government then i got to put down their pocketbooks and the program was finished it's not yet finished i think you need some time to consume and to get step by step other well he certainly cannot change societies by political declarations and i think there are lots of studies these days about values in many pos communist societies and you see a very significant change on many social issues like the l g b t migration abortion and many similar issues there is

a divide between in western europe and eastern europe and up until recently i think the position of the western europe has been that you guys have to play by you know you have to be like us you have to accept our values. that's pretty much it don't you think that's what we are seeing in poland in hungary maybe even in russia is sort of a push back against these kind of. morally and moralistic supremacy you know you are totally right i think sister etheridge every person you have to change for monday and to the others are pure nonsense they need some time of you need a specific kind of dialogue i would even say empathy to have an understanding which is partly missing i'm very keen on the subject what i've got a long time and i'm preaching it in my own country and also in western european countries that we need another perception of consuming history and consequences out

of this for sure it is a learning process which may be making it difficult is it sometimes without any doubt but i think it is also necessary to add patience and missing for example even melhem country or by the government of my country a certain kind of the. look i think we had better times of the downfall of the neighboring countries as we have now a days because i think we can show that we know everything wrong. this is so wrong i think you have to understand why the doing so and stop the discussion knows a subject. might be some mistake. and so. a great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for your time and. your comments now at twitter facebook and. i hope to hear again same place same time here in a while to part.

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