tv Documentary RT November 12, 2017 3:30pm-4:01pm EST
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is that k.b.r. rather than complying with the contract complying with these environmental regulations disposing only of what should be disposed of using incinerators doing it the right way for reasons often related to profit margins was disposing of dangerous toxins in a way that directly impacted the health of soviet troops. seeing stuff that was nuclear biological and chemical products the said do not truck tires all types of styrofoam polystyrene batteries trucks quite a bit of different stuff. that should have been segregated out of most mine it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if you're k.b.r. employee and you're throwing. biological medical waste into the. into the burn pit tires and anything else. that is known to be a toxin. then you're you're careless and you're you're putting people's
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health in jeopardy and that's exactly what a lot of these k.b.r. contractors were doing. for me to accept. is. working for k.b.r. and they have no knowledge of. hazardous chemicals on the ground of course cancer. here and i'll. just put in my family and i had air that is necessary. i'm. very upset over that. today very very upset. that they did that. the military exercises regular daily oversight and supervision and periodically issued evaluation reports of k.b.r. performance not. waste disposal but across all the many functions that k.b.r.
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performed in the war theatres so the military was aware of what k.b.r. was doing and if they thought that k.b.r. was doing those kind of things then they would have been in a position to make those practices you know change to halt very little government oversight on the wall of c.e.o. the management personnel director you actually work force were kellogg brown and root personnel. i've seen time and time again take your claim that the reason why they didn't do what they were supposed to was they were allegedly being told to do something or working under the military supervision my experience has been and what i've seen in sworn testimony is that too often k.b.r. personnel were more or less directing the military about what was going to be done rather than the right way. when i noted the violations infractions and improper actions on run rude reporting them to management road ports and i was basically told shut up they would make the decisions about the
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management decisions. the case or rick lambert and what k.b.r. tried to do with him when he tried to expose what was going on and revealed some of the misconduct really points to an attitude that i've seen before or k.b.r. is more concerned about keeping the truth down than fixing the problem. we know from g.a.o. reports that have come out since you know way two thousand nine two thousand and ten that both the d.o.d. am k.b.r. were not operating these burn pits within their own regulations they were burning as are this materials all over iraq and afghanistan you know this not only from the veterans but through the g.a.o. reports g.a.o. also found that many of these bearcats worse still. as late as three
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thirteen and this is at least two years after they were told to shut them down. they would have been a lot better off using incinerators incinerators use the last. fuel i believe they're more energy efficient and they release less toxins and so that means that any military personnel soldiers and others that are in the area aren't going to be exposed to toxic chemicals toxic fumes that kind of thing to operate burn pits was much cheaper of them to do to put in high temperature incinerators cost would have been. many veterans i've spoken to believe that k.b.r. was merely cutting corners. to save money my understanding is they were given the money to do the incinerators and so it wasn't a budgetary issue this may have been
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a cheaper way to go this may have been an easier way to go but it certainly wasn't what was best for our soldiers so far in addition to the congressional inspector general investigations that have documented the misconduct there's been hundreds of decorations sworn statements by former employees military officers documenting how the operation of the burn pits was exposing troops to the worst toxins known to man rather than disposing of these things like they promised. easy. he. and i come to find out the blog where i was for about six months was built on a chemical weapons manufacturing storage facility that we. during the war and then we went to build a base there. it was my understanding to bleep it in with new ground samples as
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what was already in the ground or contaminated and they found that the most severe illnesses were coming from five different bases in iraq these bases used to be former chemical weapons facilities the saddam hussein operated it was actually told to me by a former k.b.r. employee that they knew the ground was hot meaning it was contaminated. and speechless and flabbergasted i'm angry i want to talk about these claims that are being served by plaintiff lawyers who effectively are saying we don't agree with the decisions that were made by the military there were we think there were safer ways as we said ten years later five years later we think there were safer ways of disposing of waste and somebody should be accountable for not doing it the way that we think was safer or as often suggested and try to wrap themselves in
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military and so all this is about is second guessing military decisions about how to dispose of. waste where dispose of waste the problem with that argument that i've seen is that in most cases in fact across the board k.b.r. was wrong in making decisions often concealing what they were doing from the military they were derelict they know it i believe all these illnesses and been prevented and partly because they can here's incinerators. them which were off line if they were to found out. in i mean if they would have realized. and what we did in the fog of war we got to fix this and they took action to fix it. that's good they didn't. leave. now it turns out there was something else in the contract because all that wasn't good they had an indemnity folks so if they screw anything up. they don't have to pay for the bill gets stuck on the american taxpayer there
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will be an indemnification even for negligence and a reasonable acts by your managers agents simple if they fell within the definition of what is covered even if they cause the injury or death to henri's. that under the provisions of this clause that is correct even if they cause injury or death to civilian employees. under the provisions of a cause that's correct even if they cause injury or death to american soldiers. does not and does not carve out an exception for civilians our soldiers are which means that means that if in fact the activities fall within the definition of a clause saying k.b.r. could could apply for reimbursement that's correct even for death or injury to american soldier that is correct even for death or injury to a british servicemen. that's correct even death or injury to iraqi national or
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other world national working on a cave your project. that's correct they were going to get fully reimbursed for every single legal penny they spent as well as any damages found against them and probably one of the biggest bailouts of government contractor that's been documented so far. indemnification is is absolutely criminal. if we have over one hundred thousand soldiers ill it just shows it's a good example of how much our government really cares about or soldiers are just pawns. they're angry they're frustrated they feel as though they gave. everything they had to the us government. they believe doubtless sam had their back when they sent them over to iraq and afghanistan to fight the war. i believe when
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they came back they'd be taking care of. the military the v.a. or are supposed to take care of their veterans. and are supposed to provide good health here is a good transition the military and the military and v.a. has failed miserably on doing this and not only want to put issues but you know a lot of mental health issues and everything else there are many people who are working with the v.a. who feel that studies have either augmented belated have been prone to bias in favor of. results that my air or that's having psychosomatic problems instead of physical problems. are going to feel. it's an. alpha.
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the risk of war that's the big danger here this is not just about killing the nuclear deal this is automatically putting the united states on a course in military confrontation. it's the cradle of jazz. is america is the america we are. the oldest jazz feeling. a city of climatic contest trophies of alligators on the loose of poverty and crime money used by the at least twelve members of my family close member. of street racing in the heat of the night this is in new orleans. who won the best place in the way.
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the office of public health conducts large studies of the health of american veterans covert if the studies produce results that did not support the office of public health and written policy they don't release them. this applies to data regarding adverse health consequences of environmental exposures such as burn pits in iraq and afghanistan and toxics exposures in the gulf or on the rare occasions when embarrassing study results are released or manipulated to make them unintelligible so there seems to be an ongoing struggle between
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the truth seekers and the government when it comes to. sort of getting to the bottom of the exposure. health a fact that veterans are now experiencing. been a hopeful terrible experience for. the for the claim itself to the v.a. to. either compensated or to get medical treatment. is going to home. they. are not there no matter what the city. most of their employees are angry and certainly nasty. i don't want to go in there i always thought that they would have the best care and the realities. down it depends on who you get is
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a provider but the bureaucracy at the v.a. for me is what has been a nightmare to deal with getting bills from the labs for a thousand two thousand dollars for blood work and staff call in the v.a. tell them i'm keep getting these bills call in the lab company telling the v.a. supposed to pay these bills and they don't and you're already sick with chemo and radiation olsen all these bills are coming and nobody's paying them. i mean i mean right now we're quarter million dollars in debt from cancer cost more bankrupt. and the v.a. still denies my claim that it's not this is not a. exposures. the politicians the congressional people that sort of tell us unfortunate drop is like a hot potato swims we make sen. so we have no resolution right now the v.a. still do minor cases we have attorneys for sure. there are we're going to see we're
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jews were we are are you know just hopefully we'll make it through a lot. of time so i can make with the ten year golden rule the v.a. system itself means that about for ten years or for me it's no benefits that's why after ten years i don't get the benefits because or i think the v.a. should take more. be more responsible with these guys because they have already put their lives on the line for us why would we. not give them the proper medical attention that they need why give them an appointment three months out and then. send it you know prolong it even more to maybe. eight months nine months a year and then even fighting for their benefits if they don't. then book person twelve months of them coming back and he doesn't get
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a diagnosis forget it they're screwed because they don't see it act it's service related service connected the burden of proof is on the veteran they have to be able to service connected it doesn't matter whether you have it or not or the condition can did it happen during the day you enter to the left that's the big window that you have to fight for. iraq afghanistan war injury is our generation's engine orange. if you look at the historical precedents with agent orange for decades it was not acknowledged and then after decades in his study. and then finally soldiers were training. so to go with iraq afghanistan we're a long way from we can't wait that long poor the burn pits to reckon it's not the pace that the guys are in the females are dying from the burn pits it's not asked the illnesses are showing up in the sentence
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a lot sooner he put in his time he sacrificed he gave everything that it was possible to get and. and more proud of that and we don't regret that and he doesn't regret that and we would serve again our sons have enlisted so it's not the service that's a problem and then things happen in war and we understand that there's a cost and and we will carry with that because there are some things that are worth the cost. but the other side of that is that at the end of it they take care of you and every single time there's a war we do this song and dance with the government where they say no no it wasn't us no it wasn't that it's just you it's you know i don't know what it was it's just the look and it's not every single time and when is it the last time when is it
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that they just say ok. this was it and you did your part. when does that time come where you're not fighting afterwards the fight should be done i don't see no way at this because with the agent orange the vietnam veteran still suffering still fighting to be recognized the top of that gulf war veterans fighting to be recognized now you're adding another million or so iraq and afghanistan. and veterans fighting to be recognized that's two generations at least of the men and women who are sick. and they have overwhelmed a v.a. system that was not prepared to handle that to compensate every.
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soldier marine airman and sailor that was on the ground that are complaining about their exposure illnesses from their exposure from the burn pits. would break would bring literally send a v.a. broke and. they don't want to pay it so the waiting in the decades a lot of those soldiers will die in time. and they won't have to pay anything. all grow up and. get the middle finger. the vs new model is. delayed and i hope he does. the veterans that i speak to are both mad and they're bewilder some of them are so sick that they don't know if they wake up in the morning and i'm not exaggerating every year is something every year is something that's taken away from the following of life that he has and that we have as a family. near. me in union. with
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him. in that i will can just walk into a restaurant and sit down and he will have a meal. because he is sitting there trying to. keep him sound busy on his own in time no uncomfortable for. the simple things that. we take for granted. that he doesn't have. our heart. what. what would what is that it took on a big leg what does it hold.
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i'd like to think the future is bright. but that's my optimistic guy trying and i think a lot of times go on myself because if i read about a disease that i. it just gets progressively worse. so i don't know i mean maybe i get a miracle and god heals me and my wife is wonderful and she and a trifle on like nothing's ever open. but right now it's too much take care of my husband take care of every other. woman's has spend it and. man's wife who served who did their duty because they believed in it because they believed that it was the right thing to do. that's all we're asking. there's absolutely a moral obligation to fix it when these veterans come home and they're saying no
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matter what they're sick we have an obligation as the american public to take care of these men and women who are sacrificed. for us i. i hope that. this will have an ending where they jump on this and really story. aggressively treating the soldiers at the v.a. and but i don't see this ending well at all. thomas is going to be gloom and doom. q. and a he's trying to. catch him everything you can or cannot you don't wonder. if. each was to each.
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