with r.t. welcome back now in an effort to avoid discrimination police in the swiss city of europe have decided not to release the nationalities of crime suspects to the media regular mention of nationality in blue supports is discriminatory because it suggests that the fans can be explained by perpetrators nationality. ok let's bring in a speech here from the swiss people's party and also sound one but he's a muslim rights campaigner and also chief editor of islam twenty century good evening to you both knew was let's start with you first do you think this is a good idea. good evening no i don't think that is a good idea that's no good because one of the biggest problems our country has is being politically correct because we have got massive problems with criminal furring people and it's not a solution to choose don't talk about it when you look for example at the can't

there are twenty six point five percent for in people that are doing fifty four percent of all criminal activities these are problems that need to be discussed and soundman i mean you've heard there what are your views. well as far as the action of the police and i think it makes sense is quite logical it's not about political correctness some about hiding says to sticks in fact it's about making sure people are more informed to six in particular statistical significance. the other guest him mentioned the statistics in terms of a percentage and that is what you can do more adequately and more properly if you don't focus on individual instances of you know the nationality of a particular perpetrator or suspect neo's they police have come out and said when they proposed this they believe that often given the identity the nationality of

a suspect often obscures the root causes of the crime such as poverty or lower education or stigmatize ation then they have a point. noire think when you know when you don't tell the nationality then that will lead to more racism a think. powers old politics on the extreme right side day will win when the police and the government want to tell their nationality so i think that dangerous it will lead to more racism when you don't tell the nationalities another example switzerland has got one quieter for him people in our prisons prisons there are seventy one percent of criminal activities done in people so we have got a problem and it really isn't a solution to choose don't talk about it and don't mention it. sound then people have said that look if you don't name if you don't give the nationalities police

are open to being accused of covering up i mean that's also a factor here isn't it is a difficult one for police to balance because they're going to get accused of things on both sides salmond well it's not really logical to mention just these incidental factors of somebodies nationality. other descriptions about them if it's not actually relevant to the crime as for statistics i'm a bill big believer of statistical of cities relevant statistics you need to you need to know the statistical significance of a particular person's race or ethnicity x. committing crime a.b.c. and you don't that's exactly what you get distracted from and you don't get that if you focus on you know mentioning individual perpetrators and nationalities for example in particular press releases which is what this is about the police are not saying that we're not going to release this information the police are saying initial press releases they're not going to mention it and they shouldn't because

it makes no sense but if people want to know statistically for example how many people you know what percentage of this nationality might be doing this crime then that's a logical request to ask and that's something people can and should ask and want to get an understanding of you know the statistical significance of certain crimes because what happens is. when people read a headline with you know and says you know african man does x. crime we all know study after study after study shows that the average the average people the average european he or she thinks that grossly exaggerate over it ok it's the amount the number of news and they think not just respond to the news going to change based on your logic yeah ok based on your logic it should be also forbidden to chill the changer or g.h. so it should be also be discrimination when the police say that a woman has murdered her husband so then it could could be a discrimination to all women or it could be

a discrimination when an old man makes a car accident that's not logical nationality age changer these are all relevant things to understand for the public what is going on in cities we have got a right to know what's going on and which groups of person. you are doing kareem it's just a normal i don't extend we are not taking away that right the police are not taking away that right what the police are doing if you actually address released they saying they're not going to mention it in the initial press releases but if somebody wants to know i.e. somebody's looking at you know a particular problem with any with a particular logical outcome in mind then they will more than happily disclose that information the point is i suppose what you use is saying there is tell me this where do you draw the line i mean if you're going to sort of know and i guess in some ways nationality where do you draw the line that's a good question and you know you just get it with trial and error and every country every people every force should or should be you know have the program to to decide

that for themselves in the united kingdom for example we have you know laws and regulations that the press for example abide by and they shouldn't mention a person's certain protected qualities and qualities that sort of discrimination laws unless they actually you know accord to the actual crime of the actual story so mentioning you know it's a particular man of a particular age you know if it's to describe a person for an officer it's to go to my humble let me run the situation to our current three. in our country the state has the official task of informing people transparently it's a task from the government from the state from the police that the people know what is going on it's an official task to inform to inform their transparently and it cannot be that you just be quiet about today should know that it is very important we are talking about quiet what is going on it's

a security problem i suppose we all written about being quiet here we're talking about police ensuring proper transfers is not suit of transparency as they as they described because. mentioning often as you see mentioning a particular person's nationality for example in a case where it's not actually integral and that is not causative to the actual crime will skew people's perception of the reality and in order to give them an accurate representation of reality they need statistics with statistical significance so for example there will need to be told you know x. number of africans as a percentage of the whole for example in sweden it was a i think in two thousand sixteen the official reports on one of the half million crimes right so they need to know ok maybe a few x. percent of crimes are committed by this demographic or that demographic not known to whip up racism or whatever irrational fears but to actually address certain

causative problems like you know maybe that particular group is suffering a particular mental illness or particular you know. towards these are all things that are relevant here in another way and they would let me just address this to you i think in summary what someone is also saying is that look there are many groups in society that are stigmatized and they will make the headlines whereas if it's a white male committing a crime he will not make the headlines because he's a white male but this is you put the word muslim in the headline you know it's going to grab attention much more it becomes news. here you know a lot of crime spree muslim or terrorist attacks so i think it's more interesting for an immediate interest occur actually that's a terrorist attack it's only about if you're talking about a crime yet even if we do talk about terrorist here the europol statistics for about seventy but i'm sure there are probably his or immediately and they require it wasn't in the same way the perpetrators know that they are in fact as you know europe so you go ahead of them unless they can tell you i think there is i would.

have got many people with very people and he was just let someone finish i'll come back to you sam go ahead ok you mentioned terrorism for example this is a good example of the issue of cherry picking statistics as opposed to looking at statistical significance if you run had you newspaper headlines with muslim terrorists most interest muslim terrorists you get people like mine to look to who is under the impression that muslims are way overrepresented when it comes to terror so-called terrorism in europe but if you look at statistics i.e. how many muslims are the so-called terrorists compared to the rest of the so-called terrorists and the population you see like the recalls are just going to two thousand and fourteen zero point seven percent of terrorist attacks from i think two thousand and six to fourteen in europe were committed by perpetrated by muslims i'm not saying ignore it i'm saying give it its actual said to the significance

then you can actually look at the scale of the problem and they will respond. yeah yeah i think you know you have to look at all dutch bureaucracy for example when crime in the city of syria when someone murders his house been the women murders his house and then to police makes official announcement that it had happened in the city of syria and then you should imagine all those media all those t.v. shows and newspaper they are going to call the police and ask who has done it that's the natural thing about that so there will be much bureaucracy and much of office work for the police and i think they have got much better things to do. and that's a. good point because it is a yes but that thinking right is innate that people will kohl because it's you know free information the police and say ok well you know can you tell us a not anonymous you know who and then it would become a take a story could actually be counterproductive soundman it could be that's

a good argue that's a that's a good argument a good question to pose to the police but the initial reasoning their logic is that it's discriminatory and it's you can you can tell it's not really a rational. thing to include in someone's reporting someone's crime if their nationality had nothing to do with their crime and it was all spain the public perception but i think they are actually doesn't also have nothing to do. not encourage the husband because it's obvious that women maybe because she's drunk or high or something like that so you should argue that it's always a discrimination by the age or by to change or where is the line you can draw nails just tell me what's and so the public perception in switzerland at the moment with regard to this because some police forces for it some are against it there's obviously a division in opinion here. you know me personally i think that the policemen are fully against a new bill in the city of syria but i can't say that for sure but we had.

some referenda in the can. and also there was a pearl human to who has discussed that and it was absolutely clear that we want to prevent the actual situation to name the nationality because it's a safety strategy switzerland has and it's absolutely ridiculous to be quiet about it so i think the people stand behind the position that it's important to name the nationality sam and do you have that sense i mean you know from the u.k. i believe the sense that that's the case there again it's they're not even being quiet about it they're choosing to not commit something that doesn't on a beginning here include. so it doesn't make sense to include in the beginning so they're not being quiet about this they're just not mentioning you know certain incidental co-trustee of the perpetrator or the suspect so just as you can take it

one extreme and say no mention nothing don't mention agenda not mention anything about them my question can take you to another stream would you mention that ginger they way this much that you know they're from this particular village or the support this particular local small team so things are incidental to the actual crime of the suspect ok sound we're running out of time here causative we have to psychologically. maybe. you need to know we just got one minute left to get me probably answer sound my chief think that other police forces will follow suit what's your opinion on that salmond. well i don't know about the situation in sweden for example in the u.k. this isn't a practice that normally do thank god and i think other political forces should should. take heed to that and not pander to this this projection of anxieties onto certain nationalities of certain minorities ok neil's last fifteen seconds yeah i hope not i hope to city of only city

in the whole. that does it like dat because it's absolutely ridiculous we have to stop being politically correct we have to focus on our real problems and our problems is that free in people in switzerland are more criminal then swiss once that's a fact ok look thanks again we're going to have to wrap it up they're going to cut you off there to thank you gentlemen that was new was feature from the swiss people's party and also salman bloody mad muslim rights campaigner and chief editor of islam twenty first century thanks guys. now let's look at some other news because the presence of russia and turkey have wrapped up a meeting in the russian black sea resort town of salt she they were discussing the war in syria and improving bilateral trade links to want to talk us through the meeting and a joint news conference that happened afterwards in a joint bomber if an option to get even so tell us and more about what the leaders

have to say. hi well i have to say that monday's meeting between poutine and there the gun lasted several hours but in fact they didn't show a match of it with the journalists and questions were not allowed either we know that many international issues have been discussed but mainly theories both russian and turkish leaders have pointed out stretching back quite satisfied right now with how the two countries copulation progress into and violence in syria and that they both believe that the reason is solid ground created right now for a political solution to the more than six year long war in syria both sides have agreed that the focus should be on the effort he's able to provide long term stability and there is that there right now how do you believe how does progress in that they still have to boost these actors before coming here

a turkish president at the gun said that the states not considering a military solution to the syrian crisis should pull their troops out of syria russia u.s. and turkey all have troops on the ground who have been able to talk about that what exactly does that mean did the president mean with turkish foreign minister and he told me that this should only show that political solution is the only possible solution that turkey right now considering for a way out of the syrian crisis i have to say that the minister has been very positive in answering my questions and we even had kind of a personal chart after this interview take a listen. i have been doing facebook wife for us not as a. very. easy time. everyone was. you know very about.

so what we came up with for a really high level. as you remember the relations between russia and turkey haven't been easy in the last two years after turkey downed russian fighter jet in two thousand and fifteen while bilateral relations have been discussed a lot of course today and like many putin told journalists that he believes he can see there is these ties now almost fully restored all this fear is where the bilateral a copulation is now and to go in have been mentioned including nuclear russia's ross artem is behind an ambitious project twenty billion dollar project of construe of building nuclear power plant in southern part of turkey and today a turkish president at the gun has invited of ludmer putin to participate in the

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