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my question is and we even had kind of a personal chart after this interview i have been doing facebook lives for you know this is the first person. you think i. knew everyone was. you know in here. so it's like became a reason for a row followed it as you remember the relations between russia and turkey haven't been easy in the last two years after turkey downed russian fighter jet in two thousand and fifteen while bilateral relations have been discussed in law who is today and like me who told journalists that he believes he can see there is these ties now almost fully restored all this fear is where the bilateral a copulation is now and to go in have been mentioned including nuclear russia's ross artem is behind an ambitious project twenty billion dollar project of
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constructive build a new nuclear power plant in southern part of turkey and today a turkish president added the gun has invited of ludmer putin to participate in the official launch of the construction there are putin didn't answer but we could we have been able to read on his face something that we could classify as yes. now the former first minister of scotland is our to talk show host with the first episode to stay so here's a quick preview then of what's in store on the alec summit show not just the street political show is about people and personalities of the day and find out something about the characters behind the public face of these personalities and what they've got to say perhaps even about issues which a lot. normally released to there or to those of their business or their political political views i think that's of interest as well to see something of the human
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being behind the public figure are you not afraid of been hosts in the rush of the program taking into consideration all their publications on the media. attention to russia today haven't disappeared the question i thought maybe from the son of the daily mail but a bit on the other side adequate scan back through the. russia today broadcasting and a counted fifty only about m.p.'s thirty eight tory m.p.'s fourteen s m b m p seven liberals friesian feed into the u.p.a. in the green of all appear on russia today programs so you know. if it's good enough for john mcdonnell jeremy corben die and john redwood crispin blunt liam fox in black for vince cable in color and look at this that i can probably. stand there to criticism that the the experience does well and he's already having to stand the
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thought of criticism he was expecting there with headlines bashing and examines choice to hear on r.t. the british daily the times for example didn't hold back. mr salmon service for the propaganda outlets of a hostile foreign autocracy does indeed evinced our lack of judgment self-respect and shame and even the current leader of the scottish national party salman's own party expressed her dad. had i been asked which i was in i would've advised them to seek another channel to hear the sure and of course alec is not currently an elected politician and he's free to meet can whatever decisions he wishes to meet well i found that slightly odd actually because normally the scottish national party the party of the both members of a is normally pretty cohesive well i think it's very old the situation that we seem to be increasingly in where people want to know platform various individuals in various stations you see all the time news
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article saying isn't it disgraceful the x. politician show the platform and somebody or isn't it terrible is that why politician turned up on various stations in various countries i believe in a plural say i believe actually that people should appear or whatever t.v. or radio station or whatever platform they want because it's important to create a sense of dialogue we don't want to be in a position where all we have to get is the b.b.c. say it's worth hearing different opinions and not say for all of its failings those do that and if you like you can watch the alex salmond show it starts here on thursday that's it for me for the moment i'm back with more news and the headlines in half an hour. i.
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hello and welcome to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle one hundred years ago russia was consumed by revolution and unprecedented violence it is not an understatement to say the russian revolution or bolster big coup d'etat was the defining moment of the twentieth century how did it change russia and the world. crosstalk in the russian revolution i'm joined by my guest here in moscow geoffrey
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robertson is a professor of history at university college cork and a member of the royal irish academy we also have mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst and of course we have that she's a political analyst with sputnik international all right gentlemen as always crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it. geoffrey robertson we go to you first here one hundred years on i will ask the most obvious question was it worth it was it worth it yes i think it will. because what the revolution showed was that it was possible to. get nine hundred seventy eight was that the people in to be in history fundamentally the kosovo history but there are those that say that it was a coup d'etat that the bolsheviks didn't represent the people that represented even to bury. your ideology. and there was a popular revolution in the bolsheviks came to power. on
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a wave of revolution is what russia revolutionary movement over at both civic revolutionary mode what were. revolutionary. majority when they will but they were very strong minority and that your world war saw the end of the western empires the russian. said the seeds of it eventually did decades later we just had the collapse of the russian empire one cannot say that that was necessarily part of the same process that when they were in the eighty's nelson mandela who was supported by the soviet union and him self was a communist of sorts was still opposed by western governments the united states the united kingdom up until he succeeded and then suddenly he's become you know the hero rather that's the whole point that's the whole point it's not just about the soviet union it's about ideology and that is the biggest of that political
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transformation you can use revolution you can use whatever you choose but the fact of the matter is the rest of the century or almost the rest of the century was defined by the the ideology that eventually took power in russia there is absolutely no doubt russian revolution played a role in the major role that went the centuries history and most of that the influence was forced to maybe not on russia itself but on the walled in general definitely positive but what i think is important is what i think is not discussed in russia and in the west we see so in the west right now what destruction of morning means more polarization for its american and a friend when they see their actions by the broader world revolution they see the russian role because you are all saying this is very very very costly but we ended up with. just it. was a civil war and the foreign intervention that followed that's what went wrong
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that's why when that's the context in which the revolution begins to degenerate in which bolshevism which was a kind of popular revolution or move movement begins to. they call that these kind of bureaucratic forward repressive features which become embedded in the soviet union so extended it became imbedded that is this is a civil war it's a very important road to supply forty to bench and by western capitalist trying to strangle i want to i want to add to the causes of the bolshevik success just a little bit i agree completely with what jeffrey said especially the. anti-war party aspect the bolsheviks when the grand scheme of the provisional government save power after the february right lucian that preceded the bolshevik revolution they wanted to continue the war this war that many russians russia had already suffered some six million casualties at that point the country was suffering from famine they were exhausted they couldn't understand why they were fighting what they saw as an imperialist war between a paralysed european powers they wanted out another thing the bolsheviks were
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incredibly disciplined as a party they don't have the support of the military and this was crucial particularly the navy. defections from the military at this point to the bolsheviks because the bolsheviks were promising the end of the war and they supported the bolsheviks all through the february revolution until the culmination with the october revolution and without that crucial military support i'm not talking officers i'm talking the rank and file soldiers particularly in the navy the kronstadt sailors the aurora and so on they were crucial to to being able to take power on the streets and hold government buildings. is the ideology is violence and bedded in the ideology or is just a political tool to make to keep to maintain power because he you know i think there conflicting trends are there this is an idealistic movement a lot of things that you know that we heard in the one thousand century in the
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socialist labor movement here but once it comes to pass when you come to power you don't want to let it go and you have to you know for the good of the. people or the good of the party or the good of the ideology i think that's also in the civil war but once once they had a foothold they would do anything it took to keep it well i would say the violence is akin to already go a gorgeous including no liberalism there really was a green agreed agreed and the mechanism of repression is very simple with radical ideologies we are right on the food step towards openness for the whole world and who is preventing us from claiming it just two million people in donbass smash them you know these ever whites in syria. kill them this is their attitude over the west and that was the attitude of the bolsheviks not from the very beginning you know i think it's a very important question why the bolsheviks came to power two reasons first the
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fabric evolution you know now in russia we don't separate these two things where you don't think about the violent revolution not about the backdrop and we're going to tell right we're going to talk about that i think it's right because without february there will be no worked at all but what happened in february was that a bunch of liberal revolutionaries came to power and revealed themselves absolutely unfit to govern we have very similar people now opposing put and they were very good at propaganda western supported propaganda against that sort of happiness yet ninety percent of the russian population in fabry one hundred seventeen were convinced that transport and slept with the empress that he was a german agent that she was a traitor all this norm sounds you know that's big news for you the big privilege and the good point my own faith you have was much more important because if you talk about the economic situation the economic situation in fabric one hundred seventeen was not dramatic to the region people were eating i have a better way to go to your hearts after our break we'll continue our discussion of the russian revolution staying with our.
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i fight for many flips over the years so i know the game and so i got. the ball isn't only about what happens on the pitch to the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the superman to kill you narrowness and spending to get to the twenty million. dollars is a. welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter bell to remind you we're discussing the russian revolution.

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