all the fun in school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the super manager will you know that spending two to twenty million on one player. welcome across the core of things we considered i'm peterbilt remind you we're discussing the russian revolution one hundred years on. ok david go ahead and finish it people saw the first reason why bush was the inability of liberals to govern after every nineteen seventeen and the second reason was that when the civil war really broke out more store that saudis generals russian patriots they took the side of the rats this is something that is not often

mentioned but there was this one of the protection of the state the people because it certainly could have been ideology i think i can give you a very good personal example. the famous general who defeated the austrians in the first world war when the army officers asked him i think see one it would show we do you know there is a civil war going on he said going to come and go all russia states serve the government that will help the reds because there otherwise the years where there were numerous from abroad they are not able to go and they want to return to them some state alternately. years old nature of death in their twenty's in one thousand twenty six haven't written a book which was written by a patriot and a morning cast but in which he praised. ok well i don't want to going to translate ok jeffrey i want to ask you something you know because i think as with something whatever you are serious i live here and you know this is the hundredth anniversary . not much excitement i don't hear

a lot of conversation certainly academics and pundits and commentators but on the whole it's not a big deal there's a lot of ambivalence but i think there's probably more discussion going on. about the revolution the than you might imagine. russian public opinion was divided about the revolutions that you know some people the population picks it was no bad thing fifty six percent ok and the other half or whatever it's forty four percent very hard thought it was nowhere to go i mean i wouldn't describe their people i don't know but you know as a russian how do you feel about it because i've actually looked at have serving studied it i have to say have extra remember the lessons too and i think that's the word the problem is that the universe sorry it unleashed a lot of more passions in the west than in russia i know that in this way that's what i know that inspections are completely misguided. compared to the tsar and say that he doesn't want to celebrate this interior because he is afraid of sharing the

fate of course but this is. the key is that right now the west reminds me of the times of the third international the idea that we can't have the broke up that is only in the united states and the you would have to spread it all with a walk or would be smashed that's a completely bolshevist idea great the destruction of more humans. looking at history of these viewpoint and saying that these guys able to slave all know that the guy was a racist it's the same thing world war should be one thing we're going to. go into any city and town in this country and you're still probably going to find a statue of lenin they're still out there you know more that's nice what. history we already heard that was the civil war was the imbedded in the ideology that tell a tarion strain that culminated in stone because the great argument is. we've

already heard about. it in the could have been different invariants different paths i'm not convinced of that i think it's a very totalitarian ideology. i'm not a big fan of the word totalitarian i think that itself is the ideology that was there was created in the west in the wake of the world war two to try to equate fascism and communism which i believe is false and i think the rodent's. i think. we have to remember that the soviet union was was born not only in internal struggle but it was from the moment of its creation it was attacked. under siege it wasn't this is left out of a lot of western history books that in one thousand nine hundred eighteen the western powers and in japan. most european countries the united states they invaded the nost and soviet union in the middle of the civil war to try to strangle the

village in the cradle in a primitive and i mean we're talking one little incident that you know just in the past few years been recognized by the british press the weapons on russian pounds attacks from outside help solidify the support of the russian people with the threats with the reds the bold is still forward terrence i want to if he was never just the father of some power in the pursuit of utopia and it's really important to understand you know the radical utopian of the revolution the saudi approach and. say that was a dangerous goal to have utopia so i think that that's one of the. lessons of course. you know idealism is not practical politics revolutions do. to their children you know. so so you have to be careful what you wish will but

that's not to say. it is themselves you know the idea this is a myth and if you can inherently wrong with it one interesting things about the western coverage of the of the entrepreneur post story the predominant theme is ok year there were all these negative consequences arising from the russian revolution . but actually the ideas of the revolution yes that inspired the revolution remind relevant for to can irrelevant to you know so-called neo liberal capitalism is experiencing such a crisis and there is a need to try and you know i magine alternatives imagine different futures to. different things and you know the rush from pollution and the you know the soul to experience as a whole as well that's been measured by its neck and that probably explains why russians are very very adverse to revolutions in real magic political change in what i was like about numbers of people today in today in russia fifty six percent of people regret the passing of the soviet union but only twelve percent would like

to see it restored as it wants. in eastern europe and central eastern europe a part. a recent poll by the european bank of reconstruction and development says that over half some fifty four percent of people would like to see the return of a command economy we've seen repeated calls and romania and hungary to say their lives were better off under the soviet system in the united states millennia millennia a majority of them some fifty one percent would prefer to live any socialist or communist country when as this is you go and of the total u.s. population thirty four percent would live rather live you know where he would reminds me of when i was in graduate school at berkeley you know and i was going back and forth between communist poland in berkeley and i read told people in poland that there are more communists in berkeley than the fall of poland here. i mean they should they should if we could send them back and let them live in albania and united is ok they don't know what they're talking well i think that you

asked a very important question was violence like in eight in and i thought well i would say that any utopia and you're great if you. can. look at pol pot i don't know is that you probably don't only poor poor there you have something like like encouraging feminism in afghanistan that's an exploding idea which has been realized or the right to realize it for twenty years their idea already could be changing ukraine making it and email russia destroying all of the communist party in ukraine that's what i'm hearing saying you know. having absolutes and extremism you need violence to make it absolutely get them in a way in a way you know any change any. of what we can agree that their russian revolution toward the west in the past more than it took the soviet russia so the west avoided the alcohol and mistakes but there are a few things. the russians for the. and we have

a lot like you nice these are all ideas from the beginning for example let me give you an example of an idea that could be made better or was by his origin you know in the soviet union right doesn't are divided into proletarian ones and bush wants so now when russians hear about. writing even have a very skeptical way to do it and we say be a good writer. be a woman be good right the cool happens to be believe god made the world we could learn something from. the environment so sure there are certain. immunization that we've got from these three religions and one of them is that without any kind of religious you know rapidly running out of time you know just from one of the things i think is very interesting is during the cold war we had this captive nations concept in the west you know a lot of people don't understand how much the russians suffered during the

revolution during the civil war during the second world war and you know when one could make the argument that the entire breadth of the soviet union its culture it was culture was attacked and it was it was. destroyed destroyed in many ways i mean i'm thinking of the orthodox church ok lot of people don't understand how much russian survived because of the pursuit of utopia in an ideology or. culture was destroyed but. an alternative was put in place yes i mean there was we're still here ok it was a return it was a reconstruction of culture a culture. which wasn't wasn't completely part of me which actually persists in these times and i i personally i don't believe in utopias and i don't think that communism is the answer to day to the problems today but i personally don't want to live in a world where we stop fighting to create a better world that's a really good point and i want to just a quote here perhaps you'll recognize real quick because i think it's time. people

no longer obsess over the accumulation with things we've limited hunger want the need for possessions we've grown out of our infancy that's the famous communist explorer and commander john carr of the starship enterprise. we need star fleet in for a flag here gentlemen were brought out of time absolutely fascinating discussion i watched the extended version of our piece you tube channel many thanks to our guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here archy see you next time remember. the when we went through

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