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twenty three saying the earth is about to end we're going to mention this yes we are going to mention this quite relevant when it comes to propaganda this is a leaf apparently by the kensington chelsea and for them conservatives not a fake says it all the richest area on earth one of the riches areas or one of the richest there is enough and it's a survey so far so good but what about the first question please circle the number which represents how important to you and your family each of the following local issues are not for not important at all ten very important was the first question the tragedy of brand full tower and help for the families affected and the wider community this is been highlighted and sent in by a local resident be one of the worst atrocities in social housing in this country eighty dead we don't know the full number that's the estimate so people would seriously say eighty people died recently nearby i don't care eikenberry implement why they've put it in but it might be a little bit tactless from the second question is affordable housing and as far as
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i know about a third of the money which has been raised from the public has actually been distributed to these people so that out of ten for wanting to discuss it probably a bit of a north out of ten for our you've done it in fairness if you're very rich do you really care about the poor let's just go into this next story by our esteemed foreign secretary who retains his job at the time a broker just don't think of all boris johnson it seems reuters report no evidence of russian interference in british boats that's what u.k. foreign secretary said this is a kremlin t.v. what do you mean everyone says russia in that case boris is working for minutes well because when he was asked whether the russians had played any part in british elections his quote and i will read it to you after and no i haven't seen any evidence not a sausage so far as i know they have played no role hold water sources what about the cia f.b.i. pompei or russia change brix they have bagels not sausages as completely different well of our partners are that end of story which says completely the op. leaders
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said something completely the opposite is the wonderful nature of the goal of government we've got at the moment the guardian reports to reason make use is russia of interfering in the elections and fake news sausage in other words more than the whole whole english breakfast as far as i can tell some kind of a practice maybe a dog's on she says the music her words again she said she spoke out against the scale and nature of russia's actions and she says and she said this is a lot as banquet very important speech for the prime minister he said it was threatening the international order on which we all depend it looks to me that the reason i haven't been talking afshin. but here she also says we know what you're doing i presume that is directly about it we have putin from the lord mayor's banquet in the city of london we know what you're doing and certainly can say that the baras country well if they knew what the russians are doing why did they do something about it is the other thing about it here's the other point what does boris not know that the reason i'm
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a knows boris is meant to be the factional foreign secretary i think they need to have a little bit of a cup of tea and a bit of a chant about who's right but maybe boris is to find the pocket of the kremlin to listen to his own prime minister is meeting the un secretary general today and the husband of the accused british subject imprisoned in iran let's go to more dubious leaks and information in your next story from some magazine called the atlantic which i don't think anyone takes that seriously that there's a relevant point there actually action but let's start with headlines atlanta quotes the secret correspondence between donald trump jr and wiki leaks now this is a slightly impenetrable story it begins to suggest that wiki leaks was convincing donald trump jr that's the president's son to issue leaked e-mails which were damaging to his own father's campaign that's not what it was is that i did on a date around the same time the julian. it was on this show which then led to
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a quote in the cia dia a report saying that going underground was basically putting on top of the waiters and whether they're accusing the atlantic or not there's a really interesting subtext to this option i did some digging and it turns out that the atlantic the outlet which reported this is owned by none other than lauren powell jobs that steve jobs that his widow who is an avowed democrat so that's why it's so obscure all you can conclude presumably is that they're saying that donald trump's own son was willing to turncoat on his father's campaign while wiki leaks was so influential that they were able to achieve that president's family i think prove that they did torn between south korean phone many fractures and north korean phone when in fact it may offer a better solution and a new life for such a conspiracy theorist but you might be right there but a big thank you. well this week
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a nato nation mainstream media has again raised the specter of state attempting to influence not only last year's us elections but the brics it vote here in the u.k. but while perceived state adversaries like russia and china get the blame in a west rattled by economic crisis what about now arguably bigger threat to enlightenment values than cold war bogeyman what about multi billion dollar tech giants joining me now is your co-founder of opera and value technologies yawn welcome to going underground to google chrome used by most of humanity i think came out number one is the browser of choice why should we be scared of using google chrome i think i mean it's important to have a choice and i actually think that everyone is using one tool it's unfortunate anyway and so but we do have a choice you have a choice and you should be using my browser as an example of that product placement or product placement but i mean it's not really about product placement it's a question of i think it's good to have
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a choice and i think everything going through one system is a problem in some ways i'm less concerned on the browser side than on the back side right the level of information that's being collected almost as we move around as we as we do things on the incognito mode isn't that the google get any donations or anything like that to be frank myself even after these huge billion dollar unprecedented fines by the european union or google for other well out there. and i'm not really saying that they're doing anything they're just and i'm just in general thinking that assuming that your location is unknown and that you're able to do things totally i wouldn't trust it myself and we should say actually that but it does cover quite a lot of where behavior but i understand that your web browser veld isn't doing so well is it just that it's not as good as chrome or of you know all other. problems as regarding other companies producing web browsers i'm really have. with what we
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are actually achieving so we're reaching about a million users so far we just started going away and if you look at the growth rate that i've seen before it didn't go like this it went kind of like this right so there's this percentage of it tell me about the problems you have about advertising the use of this web browsers of the many people watching when not have even heard about so i mean it started with me going out there and talking about privacy. and i talked about the importance of privacy in that we shouldn't be tracked to the level that we are and we shouldn't be talking to to the level that we were in a couple of days later for some reason google actually closed our. account advertising system which is google's revenue yes so i would which is i mean you have says it does not suspend anyone from woods for criticizing google well an obviously they would say that and i mean do i have proof that there is a correlation no i just know that it happened a couple of days after i came in with
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a comment on. the collection of information and the targeting that is happening you were no longer able to advertise on the google platform. i mean your account was shut our account was shut down and there was no real explanation to this and actually i mean the adventure they opened it took three months and they were saying things like you have to put information about an install below the download button and you have to put information about what you are accepting below the download button but no one does that google doesn't do that but how would you describe the power of google when it comes to commercial interests and if good if i'm a small business person i've come up with some idea and google doesn't like my idea and i don't want to sell my idea to google conversely how much power would they have among the google has is a major player in advertising basement and one thing is the browser and the operating system on the mobile site but they're also the bigger player and that means that if i want to place almost anywhere i would normally go through their
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system so when they close that door that a massive problem for a small company the twitter is just bad and say bad and this program from being able to be advertised on twitter as part of the twitter revenue model should be frightened to going underground and members of the going underground be frightened we've been banned from doing so yeah it's a significant problem obviously from the perspective of being able to quote i mean particularly for companies like google and facebook and the like because they their ads they reach so widely right i mean twitter is one thing it's their platform right but in the case of google it's everyone's platforms because google ads are on just about every page out there so when you're blocked it's a significant problem you know you could obviously try to connect with every site directly but that's not what you think that is going to work i mean famously we saw the breakup of the bell a.t.m. t. telephone companies in the united states in the it was eighty's nine hundred eighty s. i mean do you think google will be have to have to be broken up given its i'm not really
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sure if that's what should be happening i have all those suggestions that i think is more important i really think that the collection of information that's happening has gone overboard. it's not necessary to collect this information and i'm actually concerned it may be illegal i mean it used to be like you go to a site and you're doing something on that site and none of that information goes to the next site i'm sure google would say it's a revenue stream model is based on advertising the more information you can pick up from the user you can use this to help the advertisers that fund google in the first and there's a point there being is yes it's there's a lot of value in collecting information on users but that's why it tends to be regulated as well to keep private so from that perspective if again i'm going to cite and if i was getting in from it so you're coming to my site and i have your information and typically that would be like you or maybe your name and address and phone number or something like that that's typically the level of information that business is what they could not go and share that with someone else but now
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everything that we're doing you can see it so just because there's the same providers across those different sites and obviously because their information about their whereabouts through our mobile phones and and potentially all the technology is a again i'm concerned about the new voice technology has a lot of the technology is right i love technology and i love the idea of people fish in your ear and being able to understand what everyone says but i hate the idea of it being on potentially all the time and listening to everything that you say so i think you have to look at how what information is being collected and how it's being used to how we're going to get these changes made in these concerns. upheld in any kind of. any kind of way i mean these are massive companies i think this is a case of regulation and i think basically we have some regulation that is maybe not being followed up on and maybe we need some more relieving regulation is going to work i'm pretty certain it would and i also think that these companies they don't want to be seen as the bad guys so i'm hoping that with with a little bit of push from the government so they would say ok we want to live in
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a society where we're not being tracked where we're not being targeted in the way that we are currently and that's something we want to fix. and i think that's a that's a reasonable thing to do i think it's possible to do it technically clearly so it's just a question of doing the right thing. that's it for the show we'll be back on saturday to examine today's u.k. prime minister's questions assuming the almost daily scandals don't force drazen maids resignation by then till then keep in touch by social media will see those out the fifty three years of the day that us f.b.i. director j. edgar hoover publicly described civil rights like a mafia music in judea as the most notorious leave us.
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