now your nation media would mostly ignore the fact that both the usa and the e.u. though were defacto supporting nazis there were exceptions occluding even one report on the u.k. state mandated b.b.c. groups of armed men struck through the square with dubious iconography. that yellow armband is a false german symbol used by several s.s. divisions during the second world war for barack obama the time was right for regime change given of the other mia putin position power in new crane deal to transition power in ukraine regime change but do we really hear the truth about what happened in ukraine here's what seamus milne before he became the communications director for western europe's largest socialist movement what happened four years tomorrow the media has played a very negative role by presenting a very one sided story of the original my down protests in kiev and the process that led to the overthrow of the president and the rebellion that's taken

place in the east of the country many aspects of that have not been properly reported i mean some with some notable exceptions but for example the far right role in the original protests and the role of fascist groups now in the battalions that are operating the volunteer battalions the national guard that are operating in the east of the country you know is very very much played down in the western media reports that all too often painted is that some fantasy of kremlin propaganda yes if you believe all the kremlin propaganda you probably thought nato secretary general would soon be in the ukrainian capital addressing and arguably undemocratic parliament where political parties are banned very happy to be back in ukraine back in the queue well joining me now is wiki leaks lawyer jennifer robinson she's a human rights lawyer and barrister daddy street chambers jennifer thanks so much for going on going underground before we go to some extraordinary news about julian as arjan wiki leaks just tell me a little bit about the. case you were involved in about benefit to lone parents who

had suffered domestic abuse and were made homeless by government as a security policy it was part of the conservative government he austerity cuts which is cuts to benefits which they changed around around a controversy that certain families in this country were getting more from benefits because that's what they needed to to survive in london were getting more from benefits than people who were the working poor so rather than assessed benefits on need by size of family by how much they rent was by where they lived they cut it on a blanket basis according to what the lowest working wage would be in this country now that meant that women who were living alone who didn't have the ability to have to go to work who had small children were having their benefits kept in a way that meant they could now not afford to live where they were living they had to either move or they had to cut their living expenses in ways it was forcing women into reliance on food banks and the like and our challenge was basically saying this was discriminatory against women because women who have little children

are expected to work and by cutting their benefits because they were not able to work made no rational reasonable sense and was putting them in real difficulty and you were and we won and the judge said that it was causing real misery for no for no purpose of the taxpayer is funding an appeal here is the decision in your favor that's right to the government is appealing it because they say that this is a is a massive carve out of their austerity policies we say that it is being subject to any surveillance yourself well i think there are great concerns out of that that surveillance is incredibly self included it doesn't matter that you're aware what states can read and look at particularly in fact the british government the is that she's if it wasn't referable to something it had to come out now in the course of the swedish authority there is no need in our view it's not a case of will produce in news and we have continually offered he has now been dropped now that they finally took his testimony of a concern since the trump administration came to pairing for administrative and legal action who was head of the global solution service you're making these allegations with your strong labor. i believe he was the head of the

c.p.s. but it was it was the extradition service team and the current lawyer there has now retired but the c.p.s. is still responsible for this now britain has been julian has been found to be arbitrarily detained by the united nations a large part of that decision was the failure of the swedish and u.k. authorities to properly progress his case it's been dragged on for seven years now what was the key reason why that case in sweden didn't go ahead because they wouldn't come in question here we now have evidence from the material that that's just an emergency got from the crown prosecution service where the c.p.s. lawyer says we're not treating this like any other extradition case you shouldn't come here because it will give his defense team a strategic advantage they had the ability to say that because those are all the emails are being released not all the emails so we're going to other girls will be deleted by the ground prosecution service that's right we have that material from the swedish crime from the swedish prosecution authority the british authority has refused to release it ferment for for more than eighteen months we were in court

arguing that they ought to release it in the public interest because the british public ought to know what role the c.p.s. played in creating a situation which is unprecedented of journalists who is inside an embassy seeking asylum what role the c.p.s. played in placing britain in breach of international obligations that is in the public interest and the c.p.s. doesn't want to give us the information we've since learned because of this process and because of our people they've delayed emails they don't know how much material in the file they're certainly not filing material and keeping it in a way that makes it accessible which they admitted in court was in breach of their own data retention policy but on the other hand they also say that they don't have any idea of the conduit of e-mails obviously going to be deleted and the case was not live when the e-mail accounts were deleted so it's role it's clear there's been correspondence between the swedish authority in the crown prosecution service giving continued advice about the case we think it's in the public interest to understand what the crown prosecution service was saying and how that contributed to this case being dragged out for so long in circumstances where it was simply unnecessary jennifer auther thank you thank you. after the break the head of

wednesday's u.k. budget they are responsible for mudder of the zero that will start the cuts to the patient services as we speak to the boss of maple representing probation offices across the country and award winning actress stephen tompkinson on political satire the paradise bay prison if it was with the ruined football impacts of his play to read all the simple coming up above two of going up to grab. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. some will want to. have to go on to the press this is what the four three in the morning can be good for. i'm interested always in the waters of my own. question.

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writing in and buy these for profit and public library we know of one we find a wholly unacceptable rating by the terms of their release they're being interviewed in a public library at the time that they were interviewed with the public around them yes indeed and we had reports of clients stepping around the children's section of the library to get the appointments but nevertheless it's not it's not an environment is conducive to serious supervision of clients who may present a low medium risk but we don't know how people don't know how to circumstances may change from one meeting to the next the longer they respects we in face to face the provision people can present with increased problems ok if we saw the statistics first second and they're quite serious to succeed have been emerging over this period in terms of reoffending rates and all the rest is it money for old rope for these companies that will see your c.d.'s and they've just been given an extra thirty seven million pounds i understand. that was actually that was

a response to the show. just as secretary ridge work yes for old rope well i figure maybe more up to date on what i had but it's somewhere between twenty or thirty seven million this year to keep their heads above water questions need to be raised also the justice select committee might well ask where is this two hundred seventy seven million pounds come from there's now been guaranteed by ministers to these failing providers they shouldn't vented interface with are absolutely nailing down how much it would cost to liberation services you need in this new environment do you think chris grayling knew about it we have this leaked memo for twenty thirty and we were told about it before mr justice officials warning there's an eighty percent risk of an unacceptable drop an operational performance if this privatization absolutely knew about it and we warned politicians including chris quietly in that we had seen this was a report ok but i mean do we have a twenty five percent rise in serious crimes such as murder and manslaughter committed by offenders under supervision in the community is that the fault of your members or is it the fault of this policy of privatisation difficult to say.

through every serious case kurz is an independent report conducted and we have seen little or no blame attributed to partition of members in the vast majority of these cases because what has been found some stakes are made you to a combination of fact it's information not reaching people time multi-agency a range it's not a failing of them because you're under resourced what do you think of this commitment from the favorite to be the next prime minister jeremy corbett and his party saying they basically want every national as the whole probation service again well we absolutely welcome that and we were believe it i believe it i believe it i believe has generated out that indeed before the last one election where similar commitments from city can and others in terms of what they wanted to do clearly there would be a maryland state potentially would be a cost implication but when you think about the amount of taxpayers' money that's being wasted i would argue to bring in probation back into public ownership and

make it more accountable be very popular with the taxpaying public i mean there was some eyebrows raised saying that that young more young children should be sent to jail for longer that was at the age of the howard league president dick that really runs the largest police force in the country would that ease the load on probation people getting longer sentences and younger ages there are too many people in prison period sense and there are far too many women prisoners as well in the system that's a scandalous just for the public accounts committee there were certainly raise because it is a great new improvement. could be used by your millions over the five years they g four is implementing the contract what do you think of the whole situation around the next generation of electronic tagging would be for us or among most providers who still secure government contracts despite the very dark cloud hanging over them for their past performance in this area such as tech in that people can't literally but use the names of those who die do you think they still get their contracts

retained government are running out of choice and. ministers want to keep these contracts and they will be asking the justice select committee why contracts have returned to providers who have failed and lost the question respectively c.r.c. as well what we do it was a. norm but. that only five million went down the drain the minister just as well and secretary as it made any difference to your members the new tagging we come from the standpoint that was taken has its place it cannot it cannot replace proper high quality supervision in a community and amount of money you've mentioned start shapes the work relation office it's my message to him and others it's good items of money i don't want erode because you know they're presiding over a system is a shambles and they need some help in lawrence thank you. well to football now and while the world may be wondering about italy not qualifying for the world in the dressing room of a semi professional football club based in the northern league up in the north east

of england the oldest football league in the country and it deals with three generations there's the old kit man johnny eights played by john bowler who used to play for the club his father used to play for the club used to manage the club now he looks after the kit he's he's readline through and through there's the very ambitious manager played by my good self called jimmy kid who's been at the club for two years but has ambitions that outreach this seventy professional status he finds himself in he wants to be glad handing with jos a marine you know at any opportunity and sitting next to gary lineker being a pundit on much of the day every week and into their mates comes a young footballer played by dane bone a young protege and there's a sort of city in battle for his soul the kit mum wants him to stay at the club and nurture him properly and slowly and i'd quite happily want to sell him on to

get a cut of the transfer fee for myself. and so it's a it's a sort of allegory for any business really sort of pre and post that show about the people that used to care about how everything was established and how the torch was passed on and all the people that just see it as a business and a money making opportunity for the older girl represents pretty their journey represent. and i mean it was a bit strange when the kid the talent of their wealth will tell and says you know in professional football they're way better than the corrupt petty corruption of this northern club what do you mean by that well i think it's that money has become the root of all evil in. in especially in the sport of football and that you know deals can be done which on always in the clubs best interests the very personal now and i think that checkbook football has taken away the locale you know i certainly

remember the support middlesboro all my life and the team consisted of plopped crags foghat picked in mills armstrong you know name that and they all lived in the area and you know then to the days of when we were getting janine you know when robin alley you could tell they were from stockton and looked so middlesbrough so it's kind of you know all this you see players kiss in the badge but you know that really thankful for the enormous wage that they get every week rather than the club they're out here and now and the playwright patrick wilbur wrote it when he moved away from london because of seven seven and go involved in football management itself it did he happen to be prancing louis football club in the southeast with his son and it was a brilliant game very entertaining game but he found out that the club was in dire straits with the tax man so he ran round five much richer friends than he and they

formed a consortium and run the club for six years and then patrick suddenly found his writing mojo again and wrote this play and he could see all the yeah especially local community but you know but ambition is you know limitless. but you often tied down by financial constraints so i mean just keep on the football yeah angle just for the new local club live or do well if you take the yeah but you can't there's no how to winnie's a good man manager and patrick experience and you could this is very different to the way that in paradise papers that george and all the highest bidder and they'll build houses hindsight being twenty twenty vision you can go yeah maybe we got it wrong and. i knew it i own it all yeah it all being about the self so the way i know i'm the same was happening in an america with reagan and suddenly i think people are feeling a little bit ashamed of that outlook and and we've forgotten how to you know love

the past and know what went before in order to keep moving forward but you need to respect the past a little bit more than we have done nothing could mob or who's got his big break on alan partridge yes seriously didn't he was in the other night see any was on our show and he was campaigning about near liberal education reforms running do you think there is a real feeling that. maybe we got things wrong yeah of the powers that be do or yeah well yes certainly and i you know i was one of the best roles i ever got was in a phone call brushed off about you know how they the mining community was completely destroyed by mrs that or an entire communities were devastated and i was very aware of a huge north south divide when i first came to london to drama school and there were still miners on the finchley road with the coal not the old booklets and we invited

the men to speak to the students' union to explain what was going on and how how far away from westminster they felt and this play begins with a gag about the ministry yes i mean it's it's all it's all it's all thrown into the melting pot here and especially in a studio space like this it's such a shared experience for the actors in the audience i mean you know you're right there in touching distance tim johnson thank you thank you. again stephen john gibson is in patrick bob is the red line at london's trafalgar studios until the second of december but that's it for this year will be back on wednesday when we ask former u.k. security minister and chief of defense intelligence admiral lord west where the. defense secretary williamson will be next to face the firing line. wednesday twenty seven years to the day. effectively ended up premiership. britain's

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