britain has no role in the slaughter charities like unicef are required by law to be impartial so i can just produce videos like this in the past few days to educate nato nations about what is happening and. for the u.k. state mandated b.b.c. questions are raised with saudi arabia about the largest of a cholera outbreak of the twenty first century we are by far the largest provider of humanitarian assistance team no country or combination of countries in the world has provided mourning a.t.m. and in saudi arabia but of course despite u.k. media avoiding british responsibility for the con it one u.k.

politician has been vocal about r.a.f. training and u.k. arms sales to saudi arabia to kill the people of yemen isn't it about time this government suspended its arms sales to saudi arabia the u.k. prime minister responded almost exactly the same way as the saudi government that britain gives aid to yemen and this all cooperation with the saudis cooperation with us has helped save lives in the u.k. but you can be sure that the issue of curbing arms sales to saudi arabia which killed civilians in yemen won't be in today's british autumn budget joining me now is britain's former u.k. chief of intelligence and u.k. security and counter-terror minister of the lord west thanks so much for being on the program just before we get to the budget briefly on yemen is our security relationship with saudi arabia so important we can't really stop talking about color epidemics in yemen well i put a different way i mean saudi arabia are clearly very very important to us and to the united states on to the region for stability and security in a way that a counterweight against the iranians and so they're very very important. i don't

think that means we can't talk about things that are going wrong or if someone does something we don't think very clever really and i think what's happening in yemen is a terrible it's a sort of benighted country and i was fighting there in the one nine hundred sixty seven. you know and they have been sort of wars and things going on on and off ever since so it's known fortunate country in the as a perfect storm of things all going wrong at the moment but we both remember how the inquiry into the deals with saudi had to be shelved arguably over a threat from saudi arabia can really especially now tell you really we're in washington have such a good relationship say anything about the real i'd like to think the british foreign policy is not just driven by and if something is that happening is wrong then i don't think we should say for example we didn't join the americans in the vietnam war because we thought it was wrong but americans are a hugely important ally to us and i think it's hugely important for the world that u.k. and america allies they've done some really good stuff they've done some things some people might not like but i think that's really important but if you have doesn't

mean or are say if you are still the counter terribles in this country would you be cautioning actually the saudis could withdraw or something about a possible atrocity on a british street and we have to well i mean what i would say is that our linkage links with saudi arabia are hugely important as there are with a number of countries with very very important very important count of territory and they're important in military terms and in geostrategic terms those are important but if something is being done that's wrong that's clearly very wrong and i think generally you know britain's been quite good about saying this is this is not right and they think it's wrong but having a close link with saudi arabia what's happening in the amman i mean i think some of the things that have happened there have been very unfortunate and i think it would be good maybe to take a deep breath and look at this and say what what can be done but i'm afraid once you get civil wars civil wars are very very unpleasant it was like the the tamils in the singhalese in sri lanka you know i mean a horrible in the polling business so civil wars are very very nasty and if you get a message in them you get involved in them. then things happen that i think often

outside people get involved really would rather not rather like our involvement in syria ok well let's go into onto this capability review currently going on at the ministry defense what are you hearing from. your contacts in the government about this war that is being moved between intelligence agencies and the emerging there's always a tension between departments it's the way we do business you know you fight your corner and so the specially invited intelligence folks will be fighting their corner defense we're fighting it's corner i think the government have done what governments often do which is allowed little things to be leaked normally terrible things because everyone throws their hands on me as oh my god i can't possibly have any they don't gauge how huge the heat is on each one of these then of course when finally they cut something which is still not very good everyone's so relieved they haven't got the other things that they will get away with that well defense now in this country is a state where we cannot afford really to take any more cuts i don't know if you if you take credit and fellow senior officers and sort of take credit for this denial

we've had from the ministry of defense about the sell off of twenty three frigates to brazil or chile but surely there must be some people especially in our intelligence agencies saying counter-terror we need intelligence money not frigates and boats to defend against an imminent invasion from russia or north korea. well i mean clearly there was as i say it was attention intelligence and intelligence is very important i was chief of defense intelligence i i wouldn't ever underestimate how important teligent is we spend a lot on intelligence a lot more than most european countries in fact all european countries so we do see it is important but ships and hard combat power are very important as well and ships in particular are very good at stability and global stability is hugely important for our nation we've seen atrocities on british streets claimed by isis tash in britain killing british subjects isn't that the main aspect to the defense

of the realm over the over and above what you're talking about really in the national security strategy is one of the tier one issues but that is not an existential threat to our nation there are more people killed in car crashes easily than that it's not very nice and therefore we've got to guard against it we've got to do all the things necessary about it but it's not essential unless they get an improvised nuclear device or a hugely deadly pathogen otherwise it's not if you get into a state on state conflict if by mistake an error something happens that is next essential threat and actually if you're a government your prime responsibility is the security of your nation and your people worldwide and for that you need hard combat power and therefore you've got to have investments in those defense issues ok after the resignation of a disgraced defense secretary michael phelan to resumes chief whip said i was absolutely flabbergasted when the prime minister brought me in and asked me to be the second is david defense were you one of the people anxiously googling to find out who this man was when you heard of his appointment well i was very interested in who's going to take over i have to meet i was slightly surprised when i mean i

only knew of him as a man who keeps a tarantula and was a chief whip and so i was surprised and i did google him and look him up and see things but then i thought to myself well you know the last outgoing defense secretary i'm afraid was disingenuous and buried his head in the sand about defense kept saying there's lots of money everything's getting better the navy's getting bigger which was all clearly wrong until the last few days. he was in office when suddenly you know it's like the road to damascus because he was about to go and he said we need more money in defense you know it's no good we need it so i thought well if he's been doing that and he meant to be a study i wouldn't as a pair of i'm going to be a steady jap. this new guy who is obviously he's quite a hard man you can tell from what's happened in the past you never know what he's got everyone who's involved in the cabinet and i wish him well in actually trying to get some money for defense if he does my goodness me he'll be jobs by the military as a good defense secretary because he'll be the first one who's on it for a while so it's in his interest to do it so i'll be fascinated to see what happens overall and in the defense budget today. look at it in great detail he doesn't make

any difference and maybe maybe it does maybe it doesn't we need to say but i hope he's going to actually end up with a more money for defense because you have to look at the emphases of where the budget goes if he does indeed get more money through the black hills. you know that is his ability to persuade but of course we i mean we covered on this show the aftercare of britain's veterans which many organizations and many n.g.o.s have been complaining about what do you make of the fact you voted consistently against strengthening the military covenant protecting britain british servicemen and women i find that extraordinary because it is was clearly such a good thing an important thing i don't know what was behind that and i imagine he deeply regrets it now that he's the defense minister and you've raised i mean if you're one of the people that we can thank for saving these frigates what are you hearing about the fact that you've been you've been saying that the royal marines were finished if the amphibious transport docks are cut let alone

a thousand well marines from the services what are you hearing about a large amphibious capability has been used ten times as. it's forty five and has made a different huge difference when it's been used the wrong reasons themselves well it's been used in places like korea was used course in the falkland islands it was used in the al faw peninsula but more recently there are whole raft of places where it's been you. and the real marines themselves have been on operations not always doing a fabulous office but on operations about thirty times since well they're very very good troops but the role marines only exist because they're part of the navy and they're there to be the sea soldiers and if suddenly the amphibious ships go there's no rationale for having role marines you might have what to call them whatever and they become something else and to lose the role marines would be a ridiculous thing to do and to lose our amphibious capability would be ridiculous if you are an island everything you do globally it needs you to do theater entry and to do that really you need fixed wing aircraft that's why the aircraft carriers

are important and you need them to be as forces when you've got both of those you have a navy that actually has a capability and to get rid of the amphibious capability would be madness and that has been articulated by a mass of people over the last few weeks indeed there's going to be debate specifically on the marines in the north next week so these are issues that. have got people very excited and it would be a terrible error and i mean i would hope that the government are not going to do something or say it will be announced into the outcome of the review probably until the end of the year or beginning of next year they just finally jeremy corbyn of course is now the favorite to be the next prime minister any chance that he's taking your advice on board about all these different issues well i haven't spoken to him directly but i have spoken to near griffiths who's the shadow defense sector and it's quite clear that labor stance on these things so for example the trident the vanguard class submarine replacement that is now labor party was labor policy still is labor policy because jeremy corman's no accepted that that's that's the

view of the the bulk of the bulk of the people in parliament the two percent of g.d.p. has accepted that two percent won't include pensions that actually will be slightly more money than the conservative done so i think yes i would like to say that there is has been a sort of consensus on the fence it's always a struggle because you know there are there are a number of people who don't like defense spending. but interestingly the conservatives who are seen as very very pro defense they keep cutting defense all the talk and since twenty ten when the coalition came in and our military has been cut by a third and i don't think most people in britain realize that that's why we've got to stop doing it because it's too dangerous for the nation. thank you after the break how long before the next young man of color gets killed by british police. scruggs about alleged murders perpetrated by. just days after too many police officers involved in the death of russian. blinds and.

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not just because of its loss in i.c.j. the international court of justice i did you know that you're right because philip hammond budget today will no doubt see him that although there's no british journal that what we're going to see in the i.c.j. is a british candidates that's been withdrawn but in addition to that the european medicines agency a is going to go to amsterdam britain will no longer have any physical location for that was submitted to the. nicely done won't go on or you're talking about but i know what this is talk about european banking or thought is well that's going to go to paris they want the bed britain lost the bed this is the beginning of the and you've heard it fast here on r.t. breck said this has all these organizations decide it's not really worth being in the u.k. if the u.k. is not going to be in the e.u. well david davis said they would stay here but on the other hand we do all of this regulatory authority here in britain because look what it did last time we go to paris the medicines agency well you know lots of cures and things aren't coming in

quick enough go away international court of justice maybe because of prosecuting some of the people that got us into libya as you can see here in iraq actually that's not how you know away i think a lot of britain oh yes oh yes i'll be happy now when there are no jobs yes he moves to paris and another advantage of leaving the european union we can do what we like. with animals we're whole lot exactly and eleven lives or one of the limit of space is the independent listen up now the independent reports the tories have voted that animals can't feel pain as part of the e.u. bill marking the beginning of our anti science breck said independent has reported that the conservatives have voted that animals are not sentience and let me get this right they have no emotions or feelings including the ability to feel pain if you kick your dog apparently the dog won't feel any pain that's a surprise to anyone who's a dog or seen a dog howl and we need this so that the upper classes get ever harder and violent

those foxes surely this is another reason it's a little bit and we'll be in with the trump children killing while the other more simple elephants well it's a little bit more sophisticated than that but the problem here is that a lot of people are going to say your telling us that leaving the european union means you can do what you like to animals the tories are going to have to explain that i can't people love animals in britain let's go to the express apparently not anymore let's go to the express as this merkel is finished they may not look cool in germany now merkel is finished a get leaders start warning to beleaguered merkel after talks collapse a f d these are the right wingers maybe wanting germany to leave european union maybe so but that's not the story here the story is merkel who has reigned supreme in germany through coalitions doesn't seem to have succeeded in cobbling a coalition together again now you've got to say that the leaders got an interest here it's great for her if merkel ministration collapses so let's not assume this

is a done deal but it does look like her currency is fading can you blame her well not really because she has had an extraordinary career as the german leader is your ordinary inequality and so for that of the fall of the berlin wall appalling indicators in the east of germany what was allowed to become of the last me and because of the theological because it only. most of the little things that it's i will do well to political have a theological discussion about whether she's good or bad the fact is she has had staying power i think she will ride the storm but she probably is doing this for the last time i doubt whether it will be able to just go that from reuters i can tell until we get every road i'm here to express and as you know nothing that's how the show and i have no opinions assuming germany does not leave the european union on the real d. led coalition will be of course negotiating with it and because they own the european union what's this you've dug up from london loves business i think google is directing us to ride this source because the story's

a pretty big one google is directing our stories are probably going to directly as well as present us as any find that ok right try to control your feelings this is an important story for a bungle reveals u.k. trade minister lobbied brazil of a shell and b.p.'s oil deals it's beautiful f.o. ice that's freedom of information requests how of course certain amount of trouble for the government but they can redact parts of the replies that means they can literally block them out so you can see what they say this time instead of blocking them out they highlighted the wrong liam fox is now started the trade minister involved in negotiation the european union is sending out highlighted instead of redacted pieces of information to greenpeace to their policy to their lobbying units so they're more or less saying hey look at this guys we have been trying all the time with a geisha unit i think it's as investigations unit and we've been trying to get better access to parts of the brazilian countryside which is regard for what you call it there is a special this year against drilling throughout the brazilian and which other

countries and real story of supporting the fact that an f.o. i which was meant to cover this up certain aspects of this to answer up instead highlighted them it doesn't matter so much whether the contents are right or wrong what does matter is the government didn't want us to know it now that's the alarm bell and anyway let's go there. another one from the independent but i'm sure these hundred twenty thousand people will live again after today's budget possibly dot the independent reports a landmark study tax tory austerity to one hundred twenty thousand deaths they're calling it economic the argument is that the austerity measures have killed people have to tell you i'm always cautious about these kinds of stories because when you're reviewed british medical journal you drill down meticulous records they're not likely to point to one hundred twenty thousand specific individuals allegedly rising to over two hundred thousand the next year the doctor actually does the british medical journal the doctor but i am a skeptic sometimes because i've seen this kind of abuse of data in the past but

what i would agree with the independent on here is that austerity is causing harm hardship and probably loss of good health to some people whether it's on two thousand one hundred twenty thousand i don't know well we have to save the lives of bankers lebovic thank you. three years ago today u.s. police officers shot and killed twelve year old tommy rice as he played with a toy gun on the streets of cleveland ohio the officers like in every case of death in police custody in britain since nine hundred sixty nine were not convicted joining me now via skype from chicago in the usa is black lives matter activist delegate scruggs dollar thanks so much for coming back on the show who was to me a rice to remind us so to me our price unfortunately is not uncommon story but a story that in a sense on our black child who was targeted in criminalized because of this atlantis seen as a threat he was playing in a park with sister and that's another part of his story that i'll go into but he

was at a park playing with his sister and apparently someone call police saying that they suspect to have a so already a suspect that was that's how they got the police changed at the scene and without any conversation and or any time i. seaview what was going on they opened shots firing on smear rice and then him in front of his fourteen year old sister who they didn't tackle and arrested and she wants her brother way on the ground bleeding and you can clearly see that there was no sarette there was no violence on behalf of some mere within three to four seconds the police officer jumped out of a moving car and opened fire on samir writes a twelve year old check out sitting in a park playing city and the accompanying video help to catalyze black lives matter right around the world including here in britain so can you tell me whether any police officers are now in jail. not so my knowledge i know there was

a settlement with the city are for six million dollars of course six million taxpayers' dollars and this is a common story you see civil suits you see settlements but we don't see any officers that are charged with murder because in this case what you saw was a murdering have a twelve year old check out in front of his fourteen year old sister who had the witnesses that saw the trauma that this family has to live with for the rest of their lives no amount of money can be to fix that but yet this seems to only justice that we get is dollar strong that instead of restructuring our criminal justice system so children are not being gunned down in history by police officers the head of the british police is lost just for scotland yard press to dick said that what we need is harsher sentences for younger people she's been accused of basically attacking a young black people here in britain that tybee was on this show last week about aragon as killing and the broken windows strategy what is that strategy could

didn't in the united states this idea of a small misdemeanors being really harshly punished in u.s. cities absolutely and i mean is seems like that woman sounds very familiar are in some of our technology clinton then what she spoke of regarding young african-american children but yet. we see the criminalization of poverty you have broken window policies that are enforced in new york where you tend to gun down or arrested for simply jay walking we see it here in chicago heavily enforced policing but yet what we often see are in areas especially where there is high poverty rates that doesn't address the issue of crime it doesn't address the issue of homicides it doesn't address out of the ills that we see an economically impoverished areas so this is just another way of continuing to criminalize our black and brown bodies this is in some ways

a means of our economic gains this profitable to have people in prisons a lease here and of us where you can have cheap labor we see prison inmates being used to fight forest fires in california you see a lot of businesses use prison labor so this is just another way of getting cheap labor at the same time criminalizing the most vulnerable people in our communities instead of giving resources to aid and assist i redirect negative behavior we throw them in prison cells they just because here in britain show that black people are eight times more likely to be targeted for stop and search in england and wales tell me about how the media can sometimes deemphasize clus because presumably it's the white working class but obviously disproportionately and particularly people of color in the united states to get hurt by the u.s. justice system. absolutely i think class is definitely a question is especially when we talk about policing the has to be taken in place

because you don't see these brutal and harsh laws and prevalent areas in areas where there is a lot of wealth you see over policing and harsh policing in the most impoverished areas there was a report i believe two years ago three years ago that chicago had the most stop and first searches above new york at the time i forget the number but it just shows that it's systematically targeting people and of course people in and partnership areas are more likely to commit an offense you're more likely to be driving islets sure that you're more likely to not have a license or something because you're struggling to make ends meet this is an easy target as a way of targeting the most vulnerable and most vulnerable in our society is the most poor is also without access to resources without access education quality jobs so there's definitely a class aspect here and any racial in the city that you will go to i would imagine if you go to majority white neighborhoods you would see heavy policing in the

communities that are the most poor when it comes to the power of protest i know rich american footballers some of them are frightened of taking the knee as it's called for the national anthem in the face of donald trump what about the surveillance of activists is a while since you've been on this show when you were here in london any more evidence of the u.s. government surveillance of black letter activist absolutely and to top it off we have just sessions who coined that black extremists as a threat to us society although nazis and k.k.k. klan members are not a threat to us society or white men going on shooting spree mass killing sprees are not a threat to society but black extremists are a threat to society and a recently during hearings when jeff sessions was asked to explain what a black extremist sins. who are these organizations that are operating out of a black extremist identity he was not able to really list and he was citing sources

of organizations that existed thirty and forty years ago and we know about the systematic targeting in quotes help pro and how they dismantled the black power movement the black panther party and other organizations that were fighting against police brutality so it is definitely a target against you know people of color who are rising up you see the republicans in places like minnesota trying to criminalize protesting by allowing it people in the vehicles to run over protesters without any criminal charges so there's definitely been a systematic attempt to stifle any protest to stifle any dissent and sequoyah all the movement that's been around black lives that's been really prominent and really igniting a lot of people to stand up in the fight back so we don't see the republican party we see trump and even the democratic party definitely targeting organizations that are focusing on black liberation dollars or scruggs thank you and that's it for the

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