perhaps because of he's k.g.b. experience has a reputation of a pretty reserved person what made the japanese think that getting him to take off his clothes and jump into hot water would predispose him to more dialogue well i was the one who wished the. diplomacy that you're now talking about would be the one between the two middle aged naked people but it didn't work that way precisely we're talking about the december two thousand and sixteen meeting between the putin. in one of the hot spring resorts west of. a western part of the japan but they didn't bathe together they dined and talked with each other for a long time but unfortunately they didn't both together overtures to both putin and trump have the same strategic denominator and this is a concern over

a rising china and it's a merry time growing maritime ambitions and yet i also heard you say that you hold chinese president xi you would visit japan next year as you know countries as going to celebrate the fortieth anniversary of the diplomatic relationship do you have any idea what kind of reception could make xi jinping more receptive to japanese concerns in the wishes i don't know. the challenge is japan. must live. next door to china now ten years from now one hundred years from now three hundred years from now so it's always important for japan to manage its relationships with china and if you look at the trade and investment connections to japan's economy has developed. china that's awesome so the challenge is there japan must

maintain a good enough relationship with china but at the same time they must pay a huge attention to what's going on in the east china sea and in the south china sea yeah i understand what you're saying is that the you should try to improve the relationship but also be mindful of the of the challenges here how but what i guess i'm asking your body is why do you think the relationship in china would also benefit from that kind of a personal approach that prime minister tried to establish with other leaders because with russia for example that in that relationship is also pretty challenging isn't it but obviously he pursues dotted line of personal of report with mr putin do you think. mr abbate would be well advised to pursue the same strategy with president xi well i should say out the moment she

obviously is the most experienced diplomat that japan's diplomacy. for many decades when he was young he started his diplomatic experiences by working with his then his father who then was japan's foreign minister so the accumulated memory inside. is rich and so he would be very much interested in certainly listening to the advice from the members of the diplomatic corps but he would be equally interested in looking with president xi and develop good enough personal reports now both russia and china are often accused of violating the so-called rules based international order which according to you prime minister abi unwaveringly supports and that's a very disputable issue i think both in moscow and in beijing because they both see the united. base as violating that the rules based order at left and right

circumventing the united nations whenever washington cannot get its weight what exactly does japan mean by the rule drools based international order for instance invasion into other territories by using force has been made illegal not actually after the second world war but actually after the first world war and you are talking to someone from a nation that breached the agreed upon international law in the one nine hundred thirty s. by invading into manchuria which has been a shameful episode of japanese modern history and when it comes to those rules there is no american rule or russian rule or chinese or japanese rule there is only one universally accepted norm and that's the one that

she is talking about but i guess my point is that i'm sure you would agree with me i mean it's not even a question to debate that the united states has violated those rules of invading other countries on a not on a number of occasions can you expect other countries with rage or political ambition not to violate those rules if. if they see other members of the international community do that. conformance here. do you think conformity should be dismissed here well you're talking about some of the areas which need careful examination so your idea may not be the same as my own and your views towards the united states may differ from mine but that's not it's not the right time for us to talk about it if it's going to take a day a full day conversation props or symposium but do you think we can down every agree

on what the rules based international or there really mean. between putting. the issue is not about the past it is about the future. whenever they meet there is just one pledge that day reaffirm again and again number one the situation between russia and japan is far from normalized number two those two leaders must work hard to finally forge a basic peace treaty without which you couldn't be that much ambitious in looking towards the future and see better development opportunities economically and otherwise between the two nations so i guess you interpret the rules based international order as a bilateral agreement in this particular case while we're still on that subject present trump is very unconventional later he chose not to honor and number of

trade agreements his predecessor struck he's also very unusual in the way he conducts politics both domestically and internationally how does he fit into that rules based international order do you see him as an enforcer of that order or perhaps as an operation to a rules based international order is something that. the international community has worked very much harder on and mr trump is the last person that needs to be convinced of the value of the rules based international order the fact that president trump withdraw the united states from some of those. frameworks is rather. less relevant in the context of the rules based international order. now anyway i think we can disagree that he's approach to politics is. somewhat

unconventional and i think. it is contrast actually with the approach that prime minister abbey has taken lately because mr abbey put a lot of effort as we have already discussed into building a personal relationship even with people he does not necessarily like i would argue that president trump is doing exact opposite. and he is cultivating an anime out of the north korean leader i'm he's also being very personal in his insults he called him short and fat given detentions that already exist in your region do you find it helpful i think that it's the only way for us to deal with north korea and the way i'm talking about is to pressurize north korea even harder because once again we've been cheated again and again and over yet again. if you look at the one nine hundred ninety s. . when north korea started to develop its nuclear arsenal and then the united

states japan and south korea agreed upon providing north korea with nuclear elect nuclear generator facilities and fuel and exactly around north korea started to build a nuclear weapon and then fast forward to two thousand we had something called six party dialogue framework involving the russians was will and they reached an agreement precisely at the moment north korea was busy developing its nuclear and missile arsenal so the third time. you know we shouldn't be cheated again three times in a row and now is the time for the united states japan an international community i would very much like russia to join us in providing more pressure doesn't you we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned.

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welcome back to worlds apart been doctored to make you get to the special adviser to prime minister cabinet. and agree. just before the break we started talking about north korea's post here and i think it's pretty evident that japan has every reason to be seriously concerned alarmed north korea fired missiles over your territory before but at least to try to dress it up as satellite launches it no longer even protons that to be the case what do you think this change in pyongyang signifies north korean rhetoric is obviously one thing that you should pay a great amount heed to. what they are actually doing in other words their deeds

most important our capabilities of collecting and gathering intelligence of course have their own limits. by joining forces between like minded countries we could have better intelligence about what's going on and. we must be a little bit we must be a little bit more time to see whether north korea would be responsive to the kind of pressures that the international community like japan and the united states are now posing on north korea now pyongyang makes no secret that japan is affected or even targeted not because of any bilateral agreements but specifically because you are an ally of the united states and i think you would agree with that assessment at least i wonder though if japan sees any diplomatic role for itself that would be separate from god of the united states do you think japan can leverage its own diplomatic connections to ensure a better deal or

a better resolution for itself out of this. it green believe very pressing international crisis at the moment. you should present you should not let any sort of deviation between and among the countries involved be seen by north korea but after north korea has changed their mind and come to agree on some of the principles that the international community is risk questing north korea. to to put fulfill then japan's proximity towards north korea could work in many ways and that's the sort of diplomacy that japan should play but that's pretty much far away now is not the time for us to talk anything about that unfortunately well dr today which let

me know if you disagree with me because i understand that this is a perhaps to provoke a depression but it could be argued that this kind of intransigent attitude is very common among countries who rely on the united states for their security in israel for example subscribes to the same attitude when it comes to iran denying it not only any kind of goodwill but also basic rationality do you think that comparison between japan and israel is valid and do you think that strategy of saying a firm no to your anime is actually an effective one it's not about ideology it's not about what kind of alliance relationship you have or you don't have with the united states it's about the fact. proven a number of times your soft side of your diplomacy. has not worked when it comes to north korea one thing that's consistent among

them the leaders in north korea is that they have never. ever. to build nuclear and missile arsenal and they must be aware that they can't go on building that correctly from wrong but i think japan like the united states once china to do the have a lifting in this case and china did acquiesce to the latest year in sanctions against north korea i'll be i'll be the sanctions that were watered down from the those initially proposed by the united states and i know i'm sure you're aware of both russia's in china sensibilities when it comes to north korea specifically that very strong and willingness to see increased american presence in the region do you think those concerns deserve any attention the sanction regime that we're not talking about is not. creation or any single nation's

creation it is something that the united nations. passed and so members of the united nations all nations are responsible fulfilling the promise and when it comes to the p five nations like russia and china the responsibility even heavier which is why china must do its own due responsibility and russia. fulfill the same responsibility. that's what i should like to say but doctors in english my question wasn't about that i think the notion of the shared responsibility is shared by everyone in the region after all both russia and china have borders with north korea the question is how much pressure you could apply and i may be biased but there is a strong perception here in the russia that the united states cannot have acting

approach mystically every time it sees an opening if there is an opening in north. korea it is believed that the united states would seize the opportunity to move its forces to move its influence into that country do you think that is a real possibility and is that something that perhaps could alarm tokyo the very least can you explain what we're talking again from the. era leading me to say something about. what could exist in the history book looked back. twenty thirty years down the road we're not. yet able to speak anything about exit and it. could happen in north korea what we can fully understand is that north korea has never. fulfilled the kind of pledge they said they would

and their nuclear and missile development has come to a point where we've got to pay the greatest amount of heat because of the danger that they pose let me ask you not a hypothetical question but that i think you may offer some ideas about the station in north korea and the whole world is now watching the situation in. zimbabwe another country where china has a lot of investments or where it has pretty strong ties with the military i'm sure you've heard those rumors about the potential chinese role in mugabe's deposing do you think anything of dot sort could happen in north korea i don't see how i could connect the dots really. well what the chinese are doing or are not doing in zimbabwe.

very little connection with. what's going on in north korea well but then there are still speculation in the international media about whether there are no what china was informed about the upcoming cool in zimbabwe simply because one of the leaders of the crew visited china just days before that happened i'm not suggesting china was behind it nobody at the end of the day knows but do you think just on a standalone basis do you think anything of this sort of the takeover of power dot kind could happen in north korea because as i'm sure you know the zimbabwe's regime was also pretty entrenched and yet to be received crumbling well if i'd say yes to your question the headlines across the world and i'm not interested in doing that and north korea and china have been next door neighbors for

centuries or even from millenia and so they do understand fairly well with each other and that differentiates their relationship from any other including the chinese relationships with any countries in africa. now i ask you before if japan can have a relationship separate from the united states with north korea i mean you said that the time is not right at the moment but when it comes to china it seems that tokyo does have its own track with the country it's not hurdle free but it is definitely not openly adversarial how do you see the relationship developing in the future by future it means many differing scopes of time we are undergoing a relatively warm period period. relationship that is for sure and the chinese side and japanese side both. an opportunity next year

of. making visits mutually by the two leaders to respective country and then commemorating. anniversary since the signing of the basic treaty of the two nations but i must quickly. a footnote here because almost every day the chinese are sending their official vessels to either contiguous or sometimes territorial waters around the center so. although the chinese and japanese relationship gained. attention is still there now and dr to negotiate cannot let you go without asking about the russian japanese relationship the ultimate goal of of this very intense dialogue between mr putin and mr abbott is the conclusion of a peace treaty that would put an end to still it is the world war two you can feel

it is between our countries and when moscow moves that question should we think of japan on a standalone basis as any other sovereign nation should approach it through the prism of your unshakeable relationship security alliance with the united states again russia and japan must share the border. one hundred years from now two hundred years from now the sea of japan is the sea that russia and japan must manage in good shape for twenty thirty forty years down the road so we must work jointly together to preserve peace and the. border fair enough for everyone in this part of the world down the road so you must of course think of japan as an independent sovereign state and you must think

without a basic treaty. our relationship is going to be is going to continue to be hindered to some degree they're planning it and yet there are some concerns with regards to. japanese security alliances and just to quote president putin after his latest meeting with prime minister abbey he specifically said that moscow needs to examine what commitments japan has and what it can do you what it cannot do you independently do you envision any potential sticking points here well once again president putin. is going to face his own presidential election and suppose president election carries the president. carries the presidential election next year you're looking at two leaders that have gained

political capital more and so if not now when if not they who else that's the biggest question of our bilateral relationship has moved. very little over the last decades and. the biggest export item that japan is sending to russia guess what it is the used car and japan's not importing a lot either from russia or russia russia japan economic relationship is painted so if you compare what's going on between china and japan is this something that we should keep on preserving down the road so once again the biggest picture is if not now when if not they who else well i don't see it in

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