for because you know i think it's important after what eight or nine years now of cries report to give thanks to the audience and for various topics and conversations we were allowed to do over the years because in this sort of environment. you know the future might not be as good as what the past was remember of course the first thanksgiving was held during more harmonious times between the relations between colonists and the native americans and then turned pretty ugly for them right now i think we're kind of in the same sort of situation where you know our show may not be on the air the whole network might not be on the air when they or available to people in america so i thought we should do thankful episode about various topics and gaston that sort of thing well i'm trying to go for john mccain notice remember one of our very first guests sick aim on the kaiser report told us all about bitcoin the three dollars and you know that was like more than

one hundred billion dollars ago in big going value and then the whole group the universe is pushing two hundred billion dollars and so i'm definitely thankful for john mcdonogh strace mayor or the stalwarts of bitcoin to well why don't we stop there and talk about john the tonus that because we have a whole episode to fill so we'll go into bitcoin and kaiser port of course was the very first international television news program to cover it tonus who is now you know speaking of harmonious times becoming disharmonious back then it was a small harmonious community it was much smaller there were a lot of sort of hacks and crazy stuff going on like sites going down and being stolen and crazy experimentation and innovation happening then he came on to kaiser report back in early two thousand and eleven and talked about coyne this was triggered more episodes about because we've talked to other people like i'm here.

hockey trace mayor came much later but a mere totty we talked to roger very all the sort of people going to libby toni collette the early adopters of big coin and we were given the freedom to discuss us even though the once the mainstream media kind of got involved about a year and a half two years later they were saying it's evil and it's just for drug runners and monitors and all sorts of stuff like that but we were given the freedom to cover it and explore this new innovative technology well it's a new asset class that i don't if i had asked us at the time and anyone trying to apply standard models of economics would fail because it's a new asset class and seem to last a class them hundreds of years you can't really shoehorn in your. keynesian school or your libertarian school or your austrian economics school down of those apply to big going it's a brand new asset class with brand new rules and sure enough it's attracted now those looking for a store of value it's obliterated gold in the marketplace it's people are buying

bitcoin as they would ordinarily buy gold and so the future looks like it's going to hit the one trillion dollar market cap level at some point which is again something we predicted on the show i also want to of course you can't mention thanksgiving without mentioning the native american population this year we didn't get to travel quite a lot only child across the united states looking at you know finding out how trump happened because of course this happens this year trump became president was inaugurated in january of two thousand and seventeen and there has been a media meltdown we'll get to that and. our role in trying to maintain some stability in that insane media and vironment is but we did get to go to standing rock reservation. for you especially i think it was quite a rez revelation the native american you know the tribes and how they live and their sovereign nations within these reservations. i'm not thankful for the fact

that now the fact that like no da p.l.l. . note to the dakota access pipeline has been turned into a conspiracy theory pushed by imus and d.c. but if you go there news talk to the sioux tribes that live there in this area and you find out if you just have to see it for yourself and i'm thankful that we got to see it for ourselves and meet these people on this reservation. you know they are their own they have their own agency they are their own humans and they have their own desires and they don't want pipelines through their land and. that we got to see that sad that it's now a conspiracy theory and won't new mexico wyoming north dakota south dakota these are states i never meant and they are our best socially native american territories . and they are unbelievably beautiful. and this is this is a land that americans should all go to you know i feel bad that it taken me this

long to visit these places and this the sue the lakota and the other nations navajo nation navajo nations these are our brothers these are more than our brothers these are our mothers and fathers i mean this is this is. the tragedy of this population is really comes to vibrant focus when you're there in these locations and when you hear about how dictators they came in the twentieth century modeled their programs and their the role of costs on on what american army did to the native olen ask because they were a calmness and what they did to these people you know you get a sense of it and it's a deep stain even before the stain of slavery this is the deepest stain in american history one that unfortunately will never go away so the fact. again you know that

they're denying the media now tries to deny agency once again that they of course the natives couldn't have any will of their own that they have no desires of their own. of course when a pipeline going through their land the people of bismarck don't want it but surely these the sioux nation the sioux tribe on the center of reservation where sitting bull of course has sleepovers these days yeah i mean when you talk about the evangelicals and other people in america who worship god in the bible and then they make no comment whatsoever of the desecration of the holy lands of these native peoples there's such a discrepancy you know i'm reading for example you know people are going to celebrate the hundred year. you know birthday of billy graham possibly next year and i'm thinking what a clown what a bozo you know who's taken party in this genocide in his own backyard and says nothing about it it makes me puke we were there and one of the things that we highlighted on the show and we showed that was that when we went to that little

pizza restaurant they had that resisting since fourteen ninety two because of course the resistance is a big story in america today which seems to be mostly many corporate democrats and neil liberal a neo con sort of merger of a lot of former cia guys and rachel maddow so the world but you know the same people who run this resistance of the democratic party are pushing the theory that somehow the native americans wouldn't resist the pipeline if it weren't for our teeth covering the story for example because the u.s. is honored so many treaties cicero's fest two hundred years ago that the treaties of and honored and there's been such a great relationship to blame shift again this violation putting this pipeline of people bismarck these were crackers who don't want the pipeline coming through their town they said let's dump it on the lookout you know why. it's again i mean

it doesn't like it doesn't go away but the soul of america just isn't cleansed no matter how many fake guys on t.v. want to thump the bible it doesn't go away that that rotting of the soul is permanent and it's faster and you see it and there's what elections are breaking down and the blame shifting and the heroin and opiate use the country is turning into a ghettoised and all these politicians are out there trying to blame some other fricken country look in the mirror you just gusting takes happy thanksgiving well that's another thing i want to point to is this this sort of like hysteria going on here is that grateful and thankful that we still have a platform to still call attention to issues like for example. the you never hear an emissary say they just don't cover the fact that in wisconsin forget the fact that hillary clinton never went there that the fact that many voters were purged from something like eighty thousand voters were purged from the

voter rolls there they did not get to vote in the twenty sixteen election i would think that's like a bigger interference with the election than any sort of like crazy mean you know crazy means or crazy means i most means i look at and i assume four chan has created it and you know i don't let them decide i might go but i don't like a pep a sort of determine who i'm going to vote for you know the fact is that people are still being purged from the rolls they're still gerrymandering going on that's happening today doesn't get covered on the mainstream news for some reason i don't know why they don't cover it but it is it was hillary's russia the russians didn't interfere with that election to the extent there any imaginable degree that hillary clinton. patently provably irrefutably did she didn't go to wisconsin no by rigging through the democratic caucus is the attorney being sheltered that

was a blamed vote rick and then having a donna brazil as you said you know they're going to parachute in joe biden when hillary like stumbled on the curb and couldn't compose herself because you stupid drug addled to try and stay awake twenty four hours a day to appeal to people but not in wisconsin because out of spite because oh it involve her in the primary so my going to go to wisconsin that's a stroppy little woman act i'm glad she's not president because that's unacceptable like the way she lost through she's not presidential before we go to the second half i want to say i am too also thankful i think trump is deranged and he's mad men and a thug but i think this whole crackdown on like the fact that all of these hillary people want to get facebook and twitter and google to monitor and shut down . alternative voices many of our friends many of our guests that we've had have

been do you monetize across you tube like i'm not thankful for that but i'm thankful that those people who that's their instinct are not in power yes that's kind of second half let's go to the second half of a pumpkin pie and me go away. they call me a useful idiot i mean you called me a useful idiot a useful idiot useful idiots were expressing my opinions on t.v. there are still sins of us doing it behind his record is the same strategy we attack persons instead of talking about what's next why stop me from getting this

close to the white house i'm with a group code pink why not ban the color pink one not scratch me all the right i should be sent to the town one because i want to try to break me on the wheel but when i long time that this sort of nonsense you don't scare me and i'll continue to voice my opinion i'll continue to speak out i'm in good company i'm in good company you're going to meet me you want to do this because we are free thinkers. i played for many clubs over the years so i know the game and so i guides. football isn't only about what happens on the pitch for the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the super manager billionaire owners and spending student twenty million one fly a. book it's an experience like nothing else on earth because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful guy my great so what more chance for.

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welcome back to the thanksgiving special kaiser report max and stacey so you know what was your favorite dish on the thanksgiving table you know you can you d.m. some of the marshmallows maybe the turkey the stuffing cranberry one of what would you like in particular my favorite day was always the day after thanksgiving to have a turkey sandwich with stuffing and cranberry on it so that was the day after the you know we had this election in twenty sixteen where the two most hated candidates in history you know. each other which i think is just remarkable in

a nation of three hundred thirty million with all these like great innovation and great universities and education in all sorts of great people here you know and i wanted to make you know that is it makes sense to you because defeatist develops from the anus first right so in america there is a huge thing it's called the white house and it attract these two amorites the democrat isn't and then he's giving no you're not gonna say ok five ok so no in other words it's the process that has broken down because all the brains went to wall street and all the morally centered people are running yoga centers somewhere in berkeley ok so i'm going to turn it to more sensible discussion about this so i think the good thing about it the disaster that was twenty sixteen is that. i think this is like the sort of moment we're going to see

a third party or new parties emerging because it is clear from even recent polling that it's the thing that i've observed in the last eleven years that that i thought was indicative of a system that's working and you know america as this dynamic between the state rights of the federal government and we've seen over the past few years the emergence of states legalizing marijuana for medical marriage connection between organized crime and liquor etc we and we know from studies that the recidivist behavior of so it so you think it's going to be a federal thing i think is when i sense of what we're hopeful because it shows that political movements can work with and within the current system in the way that the power is divided between the federal level in the states level i mean that's the part of the concept of the american way is a division of power and you see that it's working in this way but i think in fact

that is a good point you know states' rights is always been considered a right wing thing in america for the last few decades because that was always code for like we want our slavery but i think in terms of. you know this hyper partisanship i think people do have like radically different ways of living wanting to live like when we cross the country and you're going to wyoming in south dakota those aren't. there aren't very many latte anything or are a lot of money is actually moving to south dakota north dakota now because of the how cheap it is but it's you know they have a different sort of mindset and i think the fact that. you know some states want universal health care so why not let vermont and you know connecticut or rhode island or. oregon or california develop their own system of universal health care if the federal government's not going to provide it other than for medicare i think that's right health care can be adequate medical marijuana is ok this is health

care in general and we do see states taking this on like a vermont bernie sanders state and they end universal basic income is another concept that can be tried on the state level and then rolled out nationally so yeah states rights has an ugly past because it goes back to the slave days but nevertheless these days it can be repurposed to take on these issues in a way that's not being addressed in the federal level because of gridlock and partisanship and the corporatism that's totally choked anything positive happening on the federal level so i would say get more local get more state active in your state's governorships your local councils and you know that's the political movements going forward. from going to ground up because of the there's also going to be top down except more corporatism so we can help we hope that the banks go bankrupt and they get washed away with the garbage and that we have a new economy based on capitalism free market capitalism not turning capitalism or corporatism free markets price discovery and that on

a state level we have the birth of health care and other issues basic income perhaps that will feed the organism that is our society in ways that produce a more equitable civilization then we become the beacon on the hill is that of the trash heap in the valley you know you're here in d.c. and just filled with swamp creatures ok as donald trump has likened them to the swamp and that's why you know from out when we lived outside america you look at it and you go why do they live like that why do they have that health care system why have they have all these mass shootings and then you come here to washington d.c. and you find out like whatever the will of the people are. are is like that doesn't happen because there's somebody making money and they're here controlling your politicians so i guess on the state level it's you know it's easier to demand your governor your state senators and congress people that they do something that you want how you want your government to be you know how you want your local economy to

run well you know a place like michigan totally. you know hit hard with the water crisis in detroit. you know they can take this ecological issues on perhaps a statewide level on the gun issue you know i still believe the way to just the gun issue is to bring into the mix of gun insurance the fact that it doesn't like you have to have a car each individual car in america not the driver of the car has insurance tied to it and it'll cover like five hundred thousand dollars for a million dollars and medical damage if you run over somebody hit some old lady walking across the road and she has medical bills that she is a pay your insurance pays for it i don't understand why it's like with this vegas thing. you know they talked about tens of millions of dollars in medical costs to these people that just got shot by this guy with a gun so every gun should have insurance as are miners underground it doesn't make

any so i'll go and you want but you got to buy insurance for every all of your guns and if you get an a r fifteen dangerous cost more because you're going to be killing more people with it you know because like you know so vegas or the one in texas the current church shooting in a immediately go fund me pages are set up and people have been very generous with both of those disasters but what about the people that get shot and like a story that doesn't get covered by the national or international press and it's only like three or four people that killed or you know there's a three hundred million guns approximately in america if you had to insure all these guns think of the revenues think of the insurance companies understand isn't the insurance lobby bigger than the n.r.a. i mean in terms of me though i don't i don't not i think the insurance lobby is bigger because it's tied into the banking industry and that is by far the biggest lobbying group it's up to the i blame the insurance companies for not mandating that this country brings in gun insurance i think that every time we get

a mass shooting now we got to go to the metal insurance and the insurance and the bill all the big insurance companies go to connecticut while these assurance companies are leaving connecticut well we've got to they're the ones ultimately that have blood on their hands because they refuse to make money these are good capitalist american and i'm in mandate of good insurance for gun owners don't be such a shy communist loving bootlicking she's not the insurance company's c.e.o. willy nilly for making people here want to add it willy nilly for making people here want to addicks do something constructive impose got insurance and stop the bloodshed you freakin moron you know you meant to be quiet and they you thankful that we got to cover that and i also want to you know before we hold that we're gets kicked off the air i want to say that you know we've worked for r.t. b.b.c. . all sorts of networks around the world and i do. i want to say you know this has been like the best job the best program to have because there's been it's like basically

a neutral platform its base i was like in that to like basically having our show and having it like a you tube before it started to monetize and becoming political that you could just up what we just upload the show in the air like there's no intervention though no sort of censorship no sort of like the only it sort of intervention we ever have is from the u.k. government and i don't even know for allowed to say that if you didn't hear that the music had to be cut out but you're not allowed to even mention that the u.k. government are to use like p.b.s. on the one nine hundred seventy six not even that because p.b.s. you have all sorts of executive nineteen seventies what is real public access only access if you're talking about new york public access all the others are different entities like public access television there's a public access t.v. show we produce the show you know in it but we don't hear from anybody we just talk about it george ugly george was on public access in new york he went around with a board of pac and talk to women but he had no clothes on ok that was a popular show at that time he had no clothes on very scantily clad and it was an

ugly man but he made a big show about it so that's the way america used to be a media companies were in the public domain to be the public interest their own their public airwaves that's what r.t.d. is about public discussion the public square the common good even the television shows like the famous one between what's his name and the other guy and you know what noam chomsky versus william you know famous the big thinkers and buckley buckley william f. buckley they could have debates and it wasn't like shrieking from one effort chamber to the other like you turn on m.s.n. we see in their shrieking about you know to their base and fox is shrieking to their base and like that and there's no i conversation that a scene between them. is so weird thing to watch. but you know hopefully we provide this platform with all sorts of heterodox economists and thinkers and outside the mainstream we could cover more mainstream people if we wanted but you

know they're always on one of these networks we go see them elsewhere but i don't think that your thinking is dangerous. society run by dictators like you have america so you know i think those are well those in there are just charity the original thought is considered an act of trip i can i'm going to go get some more pumpkin pie we need more pumpkin pie i look that up george orwell something about. tearing. ok well that's going to do it for the show the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy i would like to thank our guest a.c. herbert and a cast of thousands of pumpkin pies if you want to reach us on kaiser report it's twitter and so next time. we've been cheated again and again and over yet again by pyongyang what we fully

understand is that north korea has never fulfilled the kind of pledge that they said they would and their nuclear and missile development has come to the point. we've got to pay the greatest amount of heat because of the danger they pose. still depends on months from not independent. but that doesn't. mean they. are sort of my love and respect they let him get me or

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