well actually this is the white house and from the way halves and we should pardon a turkey here you know when that absolute giblets are incredibly important of any recipe if you're considering for thanksgiving it's under and just it's just it's in the stuffing and capers capers in the stuffing is an under utilized ingredient and i'm telling it it gives your turkey an aromatic quality that your guests will love they won't quite figure it out but though be engaged in fiber and conversation once they get the with of those capers and chestnuts beautiful so i thought for this thanksgiving as we are actually on this day eating turkey with family. we would do an episode special about what we're thankful for because you know i think it's important after what eight or nine years now of crimes report to give thanks to the audience and for various topics and conversations we were allowed to

do over the years because in this sort of environment. you know the future might not be as good as what the past was remember of course the first thanksgiving was held during more harmonious times between the relations between colonists and the native americans and then turned pretty ugly for them right now i think we're kind of in the same sort of situation where you know our show may not be on the air the whole network might not be on the air one day or available to people in america so i thought we should do thankful episode about various topics and gaston that's one thing well i'm tycho for john mccain notice remember one of our very first guest c came on the kaiser report told us all about bitcoin the three dollars and you know that was like more than one hundred billion dollars ago in bitcoin value and then the whole crypto universes pushing two hundred billion dollars and some definitely thankful for john mental illness. mayor or the stalwarts of the big going to well

why don't we stop there and talk about john the tonus that because we have a whole episode to fill so we'll go into bitcoin and kaiser port of course was the very first international television news program to cover it down the tonus who is now you know speaking of harmonious times becoming disharmonious back then it was a small harmonious community it was much smaller there were a lot of sort of hacks and crazy stuff going on like sites going down and being stolen and crazy experimentation and innovation happening then he came on to kai's report back in early two thousand and eleven and talked about coyne this was triggered more episodes about because we've talked to other people like amir tuckey ptrace mayer came much later but i mean. to write you're very all these sort of people going to look toni collette the early adopters of big queen and we were given the freedom to discuss us even though. once the mainstream media kind of got

involved about a year and a half two years later they were saying it's evil and it's just for drug runners and launders and all sorts of stuff like that but we were given the freedom to cover it and explore this new innovative technology well it's a new asset class that i don't if i had asked us at the time and anyone trying to apply standard models of economics would fail because it's a new asset class and see that as a class of hundreds of years you can't really shoehorn in your. keynesian school or your libertarian school or your austrian economics school down of those apply to big going it's a brand new asset class with brand new rules and sure enough it's attracted now those looking for a store of value it's obliterated gold in the marketplace it's people are buying bitcoin as they would ordinarily buy gold and so the future looks like it's going to hit the one trillion dollar market cap level at some point which is again something we predicted on this show. so i want to of course you can't mention

thanksgiving without mentioning the native american population this year we didn't get to travel quite a lot only child across the united states looking at you know finding out how trump happened because of course this happens this year trump became president was inaugurated in january of two thousand and seventeen and there has been a media meltdown we'll get to that and. our role in trying to maintain some stability in that insane media environment is but we did get to go to standing rock reservation. for you especially i think it was quite a rez revelation the native american you know the tribes and how they live and their sovereign nations within these reservations and i'm not thankful for the fact that now the fact that like no da p.l.l. the note to the dakota access pipeline has been turned into a conspiracy theory pushed by us and d.c.

but if you go there and talk to the sioux tribes that live there and in this area and you find out if you just have to see it for yourself and i'm thankful that we got to see it for ourselves and meet these people on this reservation. you know they are their own lines through their land and take all that we got to see that i'm sad that it's now a conspiracy theory but new mexico oil ming north dakota south dakota these are states i've never been to and they are socially native american territories. and they are unbelievably beautiful. and this is this is a land that americans should all go to you know i feel bad that it taken me this long to visit these places and this the sue the lakota and the other nations navajo nation navajo nations these are our brothers. these are

more than our brothers these are our mothers and fathers i mean this is this is. the tragedy of this population is really comes to vibrant focus when you're there in these locations and when you hear about how dictators they came in the twentieth century modeled their programs and their the role of costs on on what american army did to the native olen askins they were the calmness and what they did to these people you know you get a sense of it and it's a deep stain even before the stain of slavery this is the deepest stain in american history one that unfortunately will never go away so the fact again you know that they're denying the media now tries to deny agency once again that they of course the natives couldn't have any will of their own that they have no desires of their own that of course they want to pipeline going through their land the people of bismarck don't want to but surely these the sioux nation the sioux tribe on the

center of preservation where sitting bull of course his sleepovers these days yeah i mean when you talk about the evangelicals and other people in america who worship god in the bible and then they make no comment whatsoever of the desecration of the holy lands of these native peoples there's such a discrepancy you know i'm reading for example you know people are going to celebrate the hundred year. you know birthday of billy graham possibly next year and i'm thinking what a clown what a bozo you know who's taken party in this genocide in his own backyard and says nothing about it it makes me puke we were there and one of the things that we highlighted on the show and we showed that was that when we went to that little pizza restaurant they had that resisting since fourteen ninety two because of course the resistance is a big story in america today which seems to be mostly many corporate democrats and neal. well a neo con sort of merger of

a lot of former cia guys and rachel maddow so the world but you know they same people who run this resistance of the democratic party are pushing the theory that somehow the native americans wouldn't resist the pipeline if it weren't for our teeth covering the story for example because the u.s. is honored so many treaties cicero's fest two hundred years ago that the treaties of that honored and there's been such a great relationship to blame shift again this violation putting this pipeline of people bismarck these were crackers who don't want the pipeline coming through their town they said let's don't get on the lookout you know that once again i mean it doesn't like it doesn't go away but the soul of america just isn't cleansed no matter how many fake guys on t.v. want to thump the bible it doesn't go away that that rotting of the soul is permanent and it's faster and you see it and there's what elections are breaking

down and the blame shifting and they've heroin and opiate use the country is turning into a ghettoised and all these politicians are out there trying to blame some other fricken country look in the mirror you discussed in cakes happy thanksgiving well that's another thing i want to point to is this this sort of like hysteria going on here is that grateful and thankful that we still have a platform to still call attention to issues like for example. the you never hear an emissary say they just don't cover the fact that in wisconsin forget the fact that hillary clinton never went there that the fact that many voters were purged from something like eighty thousand voters were purged from the voter rolls there they did not get to vote in the twenty sixteen election i would think that's like a bigger interference with the election than any sort of like crazy mean in a crazy means or crazy means i mean. as i look at i assume four chan has created it

and you know i don't let them decide i might go but i don't like a pep a sort of determine who i'm going to vote for you know the fact is that people are still being purged from the rolls they're still gerrymandering going on that's happening today doesn't get covered on the mainstream news for some reason i don't know why they don't cover it but it is endless hillary's russian russians didn't interfere with that election to the extent to any imaginable degree that hillary clinton patently provably irrefutably did she didn't go to wisconsin no but i buy rigging through the democratic caucus is the attorney being sheltered that was a blatant vote rick and then having a donna brazil as you said you know they're going to parachute in joe biden when hillary like stumbled on the curb and couldn't compose herself because you stupid drug addled to try and stay awake twenty four hours

a day to appeal to people but not in wisconsin because out of spite because all that involve her in the primary so my going to go to wisconsin that's a stroppy little woman act i'm glad she's not president because that's unacceptable like the way she lost through she's not presidential before we go to the second half i want to say i am too also thankful i think trump is deranged and he's mad men and a thug but i think this whole crackdown on like the fact that all of these hillary people want to get facebook and twitter and google to monitor and shut down . alternative voices many of our friends many of our guests that we've had have been do you monetize across you tube like i'm not thankful for that but i'm thankful that those people who that's their instinct are not in power yes that's kind of the second half let's go to the second half and have a. may go away. in

america a college degree requires a great deal. paying a decade's long debts from. studying so hard it requires drug. going through humiliation to enter an elite society. and punching to death sometimes quite literally. wants other true colors of universities in the us. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line they get accepted or

rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to. have to go right to the press this is what i'm up for tree in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters and i'll. just sit. welcome back to the thanksgiving special kaiser report max and stacey so you know what was your favorite dish on the thanksgiving table you know you had candy d.m. some of the marshmallows maybe the turkey the stuffing cranberry one of what did you like in particular my favorite day was always the day after thanksgiving to have a turkey sandwich with stuffing and cranberry on it so that was the day after it if

it's in good taste a better day yeah i don't know why but turkey tastes better the day after you know the cranberry the turkey stuffing sandwich. you know maine is that's crazy you never put mayonnaise on a turkey sandwich like that with cranberry maybe you could i stand corrected i'm thinking now you know that might be ok has to be just like sourdough or white bread or something like that you know like fancy green multigrain or anything like that right so we were talking about like two drains political parties in the drains leaders they put forth you know we had this election in twenty sixteen where the two most hated candidates in history you know. gets each other which i think is just remarkable in a nation of three hundred thirty million with all these like great innovation and great universities and education in all sorts of great people here you know and i only have to make that is it makes sense to you because defeatist develops from the anus first right so in america there is

a huge thinker it's called the white house and it attract these these two hemorrhoids the democrats and then he's giving no you're not gonna say ok five minutes ok so no in other words it's the process that has broken down because all the brains went to wall street and all of the morally centered people are running yoga center somewhere in berkeley ok so i'm going to turn it to a more sensible discussion about this so i think the good thing about it the disaster that was twenty sixteen is that. i think that this is like the sort of moment we're going to see a third party or new parties emerging because it is clear from even recent polling that if the election were held again today with all the stuff all those like stuff that rachel maddow although like drawing lines between all these connected people people would still vote for trump over hillary i think it's because of the young

people the millennialism younger generation reject both sides of this republican some of those old people that quest to vote nobody has the younger vote so that's why the democrats have lost so many seats is because they're not answering they they wanted they came out in force for the likes of bernie sanders i think there's going to be either the democrats are going to eventually have to go there i don't know if they can because of the amount of money they need to raise from wall street but i think a third sort of party a ross perot for the laughed as it were could emerge you know i have a message of hope actually it's something that i've observed in the last eleven years that that i thought was indicative of a system that's working and you know america as this dynamic between the state rights of the federal government and we've seen over the past few years the emergence of states legalizing marijuana for medical marijuana every gardasil you

feel about that the fact is though that in various states they've taken this issue on board yet and they have created a a movement a political movement that is succeeding and it may end up now eventually within a short period of time with a national federal law which would be legalizing marijuana we know that probably the effects of this would be an incredible reduction in violent crime we saw this with during the prohibition era that was repealed in the connection. between organized crime and liquor etc we and we know from studies that the recidivist behavior of a so is so you think it's going to be a federal thing i think is when i sense of what we're hopeful because it shows that political movements can work with and within the current system in the way that the

power is divided between the federal level in the states level i mean that's the part of the concept of the american way is a division of power and the see that it's working in this way but i think in fact that is a good point you know states' rights has always been considered a right wing thing in america for the last few decades because that was always code for like we want our slavery but i think in terms of. you know this hyper partisanship i think people do have like radically different ways of living wanting to live like when we crossed the country and you're going to wyoming in south dakota those aren't. there aren't very many latte anything or are a lot of millennial is actually moving to south dakota north dakota now because of that how cheap it is but you know they have a different sort of mindset and i think the fact that. you know some states want universal health care so why not let vermont and you know connecticut or rhode island or. oregon or california develop their own system of universal health care

if the federal government's not going to provide it other than for medicare i think that's right health care can be adequate medical marijuana is ok this is health care in general and we do see states taking this on like a vermont bernie sanders state and they end universal basic income is another concept that can be tried on the state level and then rolled out nationally so yeah states' rights as an ugly past because it goes back to the slave days but nevertheless these days it can be repurposed to take on these issues in a way that's not being addressed in the federal level because of gridlock and partisanship and the corporatism that's totally choked anything positive happening on the federal level so i would say get more local get more state active in your states governorships your local councils and you know that's the political movements going forward. from going to ground up because of the there's also going to be top down except more corporatism so we can only hope that the banks go

bankrupt and they get washed away with the garbage and that we have a new economy based on capitalism free market capitalism not torn capitalism or corporatism free markets price discovery and that on a state level we have the birth of health care and other issues basic income perhaps that will feed the organism that is our society in ways that produce a more equitable civilization then we become the beacon on the hill is that of the trash heap in the valley you know you're here in d.c. and it's just filled with swamp creatures ok as dumb a trump as liken them to the swamp and that's why you know from out when we lived outside america you look at it and you go why do they live like that why do they have that health care system why have they have all these like mass shootings and then you come here to washington d.c. and you find out like whatever the will of the people are. there is like that doesn't happen because there's somebody making money and they're here controlling your politicians so i guess on the state level it's you know it's easier to demand

your governor your state senators and congress people that they do something that you want how you want your government to be you know how you want your local economy to run well on a crisis in detroit and take this ecological issues on perhaps a statewide level on the believe the way to just the gun issue is to bring into the mix of gun insurance the fact that it doesn't like you have to have a car each individual car in america not the driver of the car has insurance tied to it and it'll cover like five hundred thousand dollars for a million dollars and medical damage if you run over somebody hit some old lady walking across the road and she has medical bills that she has the pay much more because you're going to be killing more people you know so vegas or the one in texas the current immediately go fund me pages are set up and people have been very generous with both of those disasters but what about the people that get shot and like

a story that doesn't get covered by the national or international press and it's only like three or four people that killed or you know those three hundred million guns approximately in america if you had to insure all these guns think of the revenues think of the insurance companies understand isn't the insurance lobby bigger than the n.r.a. i mean in terms of me though i don't i don't not i think the insurance lobby is bigger because it's tied into the banking industry and that is by far the biggest lobbying group it's up to the i blame the insurance companies for not mandating that this country brings in gun insurance i think that every time we get a mass shooting now we've got to go to the metal insurance and the insurance and the bill the big insurance companies go to connecticut while these insurance companies are leaving connecticut well we've got to they're the ones ultimately that have blood on their hands because they refuse to make money these are good capitalist american. and mandate a good insurance for gun owners don't be such a shy communist loving bootlicking she's not the insurance company's c.e.o. just taken money willy nilly for making people here what addicts do something

constructive impose got insurance and stop the bloodshed you freakin moron you know you meant to be quiet and they you thankful that we got to cover that and i also want to you know before we hold that we're gets kicked off the air i want to say that you know we've worked for r t b b c zero all sorts of networks around the world and i do want to say you know this has been like the best job the best program to have because there's been it's like basically a neutral platform its base i was like in it to like basically having our show and having it like a you tube before it started to monetize and becoming political that you could just up what we've just upload the show and they air it like there's no intervention though no sort of censorship no sort of like the only it sort of intervention we ever have is from the u.k. government and i don't even know for allowed to say that if you didn't hear that that means they had to be cut out but you're not allowed to even mention that the

u.k. government r.t.s. like p.b.s. of the one nine hundred seventy six not even that because p.b.s. you have all sorts of executive rights that if a nineteen seventies what is real public access only access if you're talking about new york public access all that access however is a different energies like public access television is a public access t.v. show we produce the show you know in it but we want to hear from anybody we just talk about evaluate george ugly george was on public access in new york he went around with a board of pac and talk to women but he had no clothes on a day that was a popular show at that time he had no clothes on very scantily clad and he was an ugly man but he made a big show about it so that's the way america used to be a media companies were in the public domain these be the public interest they're on the public airwaves that's what r.t.d. is about public discussion the public square the common good even the television shows. like the famous one between what's his name and the other guy you know noam chomsky versus william you know famous big thinkers and buckley buckley william f.

buckley they could have debates and it wasn't like shrieking from one effort chamber to the other like you turn on m.s.n. b c and there shrieking about you know to their base and fox is shrieking to their base like that and there's no i conversation that is seen. between them i it's so weirdest thing to watch but you know hopefully we provide this platform with all sorts of heterodox economists and thinkers and outside the mainstream we could cover more mainstream people if we wanted but you know they're always on one of these networks they go see them elsewhere but i don't think that your thinking is dangerous and society run by dictators like you have america so you know those are well those in an era of racist tyranny the original thought is considered an act of true i cam going to go get some more pumpkin pie we need more folk and look that up george orwell something of. tyranny. ok well that's going to do it for the

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