well welcome to sophie shevardnadze the nuclear agreement between iran and the world powers is being thrown into jeopardy by a us president donald trump. cole is iran preparing itself for a potential throwback to the days of sanctions and confrontation and what will it mean for the already troubled middle east well i asked former foreign minister of the islamic republic of it on my lunch hour mottaki. with a miracle struggling to scuttle the wrong deal slapping sanctions on tehran and saudi arabia going against it you know for every corner at least you don't find yourself in uncertain waters he still aiming for the road regional he can't afford to run the risk of international isolation again and how can he gain the upper hand in the standoff began the state's. punjab attacking a welcome to the show it's a pleasure to have you on our program now president trump has been talking so much

about scrapping the iran nuclear deal but now has promised to keep it in place will he want to or negotiated since according to him some of the terms contradict american interests it on foreign ministry says the deal is non-negotiable does iran feel it can push america here so trump will cave in and just leave the deal as it is a comprehensive negotiation to play for a long long time. all the parties agreed on the nuclear deal on iran's peaceful nuclear activities and. then the americans not in the new government but even from the time of mr obama. changed their practical position to ours. we can say that so many articles

of the deal. had been. ignored by the americans and. for time being united is that is insisting for a negotiation or some new topics fish they are raising are not related to the that's why the officials in iran insisting that the deal is not renegotiate will issue americans at the very beginning of mr trump's. government. raise the matter of terminations of the nuclear deal. i don't believe that the americans are looking for

a nation of this the. because they know how benefit the bell was this agreement for all the parties including the americans mr taki let me ask you a very straightforward question and try to to answer it straightforwardly if it can at what point well iran can say the earth is deal dad and renew its nuclear program when does iran say too much is too much that's it in my understanding if everybody in this. takes this side of the agreement it means that agreement is dead for time being that american took such a position. they have not tara mineta did the but they do believe the should keep their form of the d. but damage the substance of the deal this is this strategy of the united states

and time to time take the case of sanction to the congress and make some trouble for all the parties what will iran's response be to the new sanctions the united states has imposed on it what will the response be very do not have any of the there for the economy relation with the united states why they don't want to have such a relation with iran then sanction all of the united states is not important for us what is important the reaction of the other member of. five plus one to these sanctions team now some contrie try to show that they have some kind of effectiveness of this

sanctions but with the new position of the united states e.u. from one side russia and china from the other side they announced they have different positions towards the united states in reaction to the deal. if they follow this position i understand the. as the commissioner of the. or russia and china in different occasions announced their position in such circumstances united will be ashamed for its own position and nobody follows its policies towards this the earlier france hinted that the year could discuss new sanctions against iran over its missile ballistic program how does that

go along with the european backing of the nuclear deal till now what the european union and nouns is supporting that the. supporting that has two different parts one side is encouraging iran to be committed for the deal. and the second part is day in commitments to. lift sanctions. practically yes they have voted for lifting the sanctions. this is the point in other war if iran feel. that this d. has a benefit for iran definitely be committed if not

really not be committed this is the point. this supreme leader of iran said that using national currencies instead of the u.s. dollar well making iran and its partners a new sanctions do you think that's a way out of the situation. in the recent economy accession and commission between iran and its partners they are parking about using the national currency as you mention. in their bilateral economy relations and economy corporations i think this is a separate but we're really important toppy rich contraries should consider it very carefully when you think what happened when do you think start using national currency. i think the new movement which is started for

example in our region between iran and russia between iran and turkey maybe between russia and some other partners between iran and some other countries in the region and out of the region the have decided to use our national currency in our straight you know economy relation and corporations and i think. any important thing should start from somewhere this is who this start for for. removing the. imposed effectiveness of the one single currency against the war the economy i think that the movement is started now miss you were talking french foreign minister eve deal has recently accused iran of hegemonic temptations in the region now the iranian foreign ministry spokesperson obviously called

france's approach biased and partisan in response but just last month iran's president rouhani said that no decision can be taken in iraq syria lebanon north africa or the gulf region without consent so maybe mr literally an has a point here it is not his your money it is based on two different approach to this development in the region. for example we have faced with a crisis of. isis the how phase or it the problem of iraq afghanistan syria and no other is yemen these are different cries. the difference is different

look to this. you know crisis when you look through the realities in the region you've really reached to some point if you do not follow the realities then you will not reach to the to the correct result of the of the crisis this is the point iran had a chance to follow the right is throughout asia to ours the crisis which we are facing for the last thirty years in our region but i mustn't talk you were going to take a short break right now and when we're back we'll be discussing iran's role in the middle estrin politics what model chair we're talking eight ounce former foreign minister stay with us.

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bridge the gap this is the great american people which. and we're back with lot of chairman attack iran's former foreign minister discussing iran's role in the middle east so mr were talking you have mentioned a very important crisis you have mentioned yemen and i would like to ask you a question about this because saudi invasion of yemen was explained as a check against iranian influence in the country saudi actions in syria qatar bahrain are also explained as not letting iran entrenched itself there so is the

iranian threat just used to explain everything that saudi arabia does or are they genuinely afraid of iran in. a mistake took place that's was establishment over the war against this country. against the nation of yemen this is the problem this is the crisis if the do not look to the root of the crisis become a fine solution for that this is the point the chance for iran is looking to the crisis from the root point of view of the of the of the issue and from the beginning our position was clear. but unfortunately some countries in carthage to.

continue its war against. in this state of mediation. taking taking part for ceasefire for stopping the war and cooling the situation on november the fourth saudi arabia intercepted a missile launched allegedly by has ball off from yemen's territory occupied by who threw apples at riyadh was quick to blame it on iran of course and iran denied it sent missiles of the eyes and insult missiles officially but mcintyre the brother of the iran's revolutionary guard intelligence chief sat that the guard trying to send missiles today who see three times stopped by president rouhani who is to say there wasn't a fourth time if you look to the history of yemen nobody could attack successfully against the yemen in the past and the government of yemen

from forty years ago thirty years ago had been concentrated on its defense issue. today reaching to the possibility for manufacturing of the. defense equipment including messiah and is not were very difficult and yet man had such a possibility in the country and tell me the messiah issue two out of yeah man is. you know a policy which is and a strategy which is very very now on from the past just putting the case to another country or looking for another party to say that.

this is a dead mistake so and so iran denied to give myside to yeah man the very openly very clearly but definitely iran is located i'm going to talk about the iran's position for so living the crisis in the region iran is located in this region iran really be affected by any crisis that's why iran should be sensitive for any happening in this region. what happens in yemen what happens in syria in iraq and in afghanistan it affects iran security it's at facts iran's. national interest and definitely we visit try to to show the best way for getting out from the crisis this is what we have

done for iraq was you have done for syria what you have got what you are going to do for four young men. there are different parties our position was quite clear is that we're talking you mentioned syria and b.b.c. is saying that iran is building a military base in syria tehran plan to establish a permanent military presence in the country right now. having military bases or military cooperation between two independent country is their right if iran and syria iran and iraq iraq iran and any other independent country decide to. to to expansion the economy corp as a very military corporation is it against international law or regulations

no that is that is quite normal so you spoke a lot about isis during this interview so let me ask you ron's been very invested in the conflict against it against isis in neighboring iraq as well committing advisors helping organize share militia units and other kinds of a what is tehran expecting in return a lasting and strong influence on iraq through those new capable shia militias maybe. i think. now isis is quite clearly that should be considered as a real conflict real crisis for four hold the war now should the founder of isis rish to this point that who. creates some

fire they should delish to their time for who create their ween they should pay for and isis does not believe anything i says was it to by the americans by the israelis unfortunately by financial support of some petrol countries in the region for. making unsecure their region not only the region out of the region no or this we can see the fact if this of isis activities in your country in china in indian subcontinent in europe here and there this is this is the crisis but iran suppose ition from the very beginning

is completely cracked looking to the root of the crisis and insisting for bringing out the root of this crisis and that's why announced who we are behind and beside of any party who would like to fight with isis we have been honestly with iraq with syria. and fortunately the last city in syria the last city in iraq where clean the from the isis and it was a great victory based on resistance based on. trust and cooperation between the regional country it's created

a confidence building among the countries in the region including iran and iraq iran and syria and other countries who have the same position what will be the result definitely iran and iraq two countries who have eighty years of war to get to. know where they. are deepening the confidence building which is very important summit i'm so sorry but i will have to ask you about one more important issue which is always. and i cannot finish this century without asking you about it how does the current standoff between iran and saudi arabia with all this star and warrants and serious proxy conflicts affect the two countries work in opec do you think all will can be used as a weapon of war in their countries rivalry i mean for instance this hour is could

crush the market again they will survive but iran will suffer. never iran believe that oil is a work in a wall. and this is on point the second point is saudi arabia unfortunately since last two years. had stopped its diplomatic relations with iran and is not in the position for any positive cooperation bilaterally better in iran and so the idea including a correct approaching to the crisis in the region but for some topics and issues like opec like the price of oil it seems that. the all factor will call perforation can takes place.

better then not only member but policy so non opec oil producer countries. did their reason it is. has no it's proper price and for the oil producer country this prize is not a normal price maybe you are not looking for every high price which was in the past one forty one fifty around that figure but the current price also is not a real price in the past two years three years four years ago five years ago unfortunately the policy of the saudi arabia was defending the low price of oil by any reason which i don't want to go in and. it was. considering as

a passion against some risk because first big concert is in that region like iran like russia like iraq this was a common position of our countries that did the position of so with the idea of five years ago was moving in that you know direction but in the last opec committee accepting some proposal of iran all position on iran even by so the idea including keeping did the capacity of iran's production of oil shows that practically or another ward though fact will there are some capacity for corporation that's why i am optimistic for such a corporation not only between the. opec members but also all

the oil producer countries in the future mr attack a thank you very much for the cent checking and for being with us today we were talking to monitor mottaki aidan's former foreign minister of discussing the future of the nuclear deal and they are on his role in the middle east that's set for their latest edition of sophie and co our will see you next.

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