property and i devise this bill is really not going to be good for you so i know that it's important for him that he delivers because they've had no measure the major legislative wins they need to give something back they promised and promised and promised to their constituents they've blocked on obamacare they need to get something done and i think that we will see something but like i said i think it's going to fall short of what he's promised on the campaign trail larry. and so the plan money has to do owners to picking up we don't seem to know the democrats the two key democrats did not attend the meeting with the president. i don't anticipate any democrats will support this idea your viewers probably know there are a number of republicans that have been a little bit wobbly their support has been questionable so that's people like john mccain of arizona lisa murkowski of alaska susan collins of maine bob and of wisconsin now all of these people before this thing goes down to defeat it was the same dynamic we saw with the debate over obamacare so you know watch to see where

this ends up going but my sense is that even the shaky republicans are likely to come back to this because there is some substantial middle class tax relief here most americans the vast majority over seventy percent take the standard deduction you're going to see a doubling of the standard deduction through this tax bill and so i do think that many many republicans are going to see this as an opportunity to vote for middle class tax cuts which is not to say the bill is perfect i think there's a lot of things about it that do need to get fixed in the conference committee but ultimately i think a lot of people are going to have a very difficult time voting against tax relief rather than is is senator mccain again the stumbling block to. it's not just him it's eight. was appropriate to name those off there are also a couple that steve daines of montana he's unhappy with the press pass through business income tax rate. and representative lankford of oklahoma says that it's going to explode the deficit he's

a deficit hawk just like corker corker just came on board though and said that he's good with it as long as land and that it does actually deliver the zero point four percent growth that was promised because if it doesn't that he wants a backup plan and then representative flake says that he's got can say and concerns again about exploding the deficit and then marco rubio no one's talking about him but he still to this point to this day saying that he's unsure about this basically quid pro quo because her father always wanted to get the arctic drilling and if she does get that single issue that she will follow him on board but they can afford to lose to lose but the larry kudlow know him pretty well known economic commentator republican one of the president's why is this is such a difference going on here let me. well you know larry is great and i think that he . has a lot of insight on this so what i would say is clearly in some places you know if

you live in california larry as you and i do you live in new york you live in states that have high state tax burdens if the state and local tax deduction is eliminated that's going to create some challenges certainly for people particularly in the upper middle class and the upper end of the income scale in states like california and new york and then you look to other provisions as well for example what they've had to do to curb some of the tax preferences around higher education i think that will create some challenges as well the question though larry fundamentally is what's the goal here and i think republicans would say look the goal here is to lower tax rates across the board broaden the base of taxation because that's how you get economic growth and job creation going and so the economic theory behind it means that there's going to be some difficulty tradeoff so those trade offs are difficult ones i think larry kudlow is absolutely right and that's why the politics of this remain very difficult and challenging even as we go up to the wire here on a potential vote in the senate and then the house by the end of the year we're

going to have a lot of the big. moves. should. more have drawn is he going to win what's your read on the whole thing. you know if i had to read the tea leaves larry i'm going to be honest i think that he probably will win and the reason that i'm going to say that is because the polls right now show the doug jones is polling about one percent higher which is so close to that margin of error but these polls are the same polls that were showing that hillary clinton was going to win by ninety one percent so my point that i want to make to make this quick is that i think there are a lot of voters that are embarrassed when these pollsters are calling i think there are a lot of voters that are embarrassed to say that they support roy moore so i think when the polls actually turn out that they will probably vote for him i do want to point out that doug jones however is a conservative democrat he's been falsely labeled by the president as being

a liberal and coddled up to dance in palosi so you know the that's not true that a lot of republicans have taken is to side investigation and hopefully to find some way it's most unfortunate donald trump of where those lead but roy moore is just absolutely reprehensible and to say when he came out you just don't understand dating in alabama and that he had this young teenagers per the mother's permission to date her those sort of things just don't resonate and that doesn't that doesn't get a pass even in alabama i'm more interested to see what the effect this third party write in candidate lee busby by have on the outcome of this because he is a retired marine colonel and he brings a lot to the table he's way behind the eight ball but i'm curious to see how that might change things out larry money in the end though if he does send the republican governors going to support

a republican. yeah yeah. governor k. i.v. of alabama who was the governor who named of course luther strange to the senate when jeff sessions was confirmed as attorney general that's how we got into this special election in the first place is likely going to support a republican and i think look it's unreasonable to expect her to do differently i think the question then becomes how long is this all going to take and in my view they don't want is they don't want six nine twelve months of litigating rule in moore's indiscretions in his past very detrimental to republicans in the senate and the republican agenda so frankly i think the best thing obviously the best outcome for republicans would continue to be a forum or would step aside i don't think that's going to they can resolve this situation expeditiously and well robin is on the front page every day he's on everyone's tongue. he doesn't want to be you would probably be time's man of the year again. but the gallup poll shows him

a fifth to seven percent disapproval rating how to use a democrat's explained. donald trump. oh well how i explain donald trump and i all at how i have always explain to him is that he did tap into a very visceral anger people were angry and hillary clinton just never did tap into that she sort of ran a feel good campaign and donald trump just tapped into those fears he tapped into a darkness he tapped into an anger and he did with his tweets people really did think that he was calling things as they were and they believed everything that he was saying hook line and sinker and i frankly saw this coming which is why on election night i went to bed at ten o'clock and said just wake me up when it's all over larry we'll continue the conversation with robin birol and let me jan right

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i really hope so you know it feels like we play this brinkmanship brinksmanship every couple of months and indeed we're facing another deadline here in early december my view is that it benefits no one if there's a government shutdown it certainly does not benefit donald trump and the republicans who are in charge of the house and the senate and i don't think it benefits the democrats either so i do think they'll get to a solution i think there's enough grounds for agreement there on some key issues that they'll get there the only problem larry is what they're going to do is they're going to kick the can down the road we're going to be in the exact same place again three six months from now this is no way to run a us government i hope at some point they can return to a normal budgeting process who will lose if the government shows. i agree with lani that every will live as this is a mix up being part thing because ultimately this is not really have no doubt about forty years and we were very unexpected to do that is the chamber i'm looking at i

think in the senate to be remarkably competitive in california thank you both for your time today. and i have is whether. this is the close of the two in asia above that would joe ruben who served as deputy assistant secretary of state's to legislative affairs in the obama administration and he's president of the washington strategy group and he joins me from the nation's capital what's your reaction to this launch joe well larry it's a provocation clearly and it is unsettling not only states but to our allies to south korea to japan and of course to china and neighboring countries as well but it reflects a deeper problem that we have right now in our diplomacy which is we really don't have any diplomacy and so our policy towards north korea is unclear it's incoherent the president is putting out statements about how the united states will handle this is secretary of state says there's

a diplomatic process but we don't actually see meetings taking place or any movement so we're in a very unstable dynamic right now and there's a lot of opportunity or room that is for miscalculation which is. very concerning situation. i will only tell you that we will take care of that we have general mattis in the room with those and we've had a long discussion on that is a situation that we will handle how. well the president has not laid that out and he really needs to his predecessors have been very clear in the past when the united states is embarked on a major foreign policy initiative regarding core national security threats in the case of iran president. laid out his vision for an iranian nuclear deal and what the u.s. would be willing to do in diplomacy president bush laid out his vision for iraq this president needs to lay out his vision for north korea what are the goals that

we're trying to achieve is it purely denuclearizing north korea or is it more are we looking to have a relationship with north korea and where in between does his vision lay we don't know we just have platitudes and so he really doesn't lay out a vision for our diplomats to follow as well and that makes it a very hard one to track. to open. so i agree with that and i think the question in many minds here in washington amongst national security professionals people on capitol hill the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee bob corker has hinted this is well is that we don't really know what the relationship is between the state department and the white house on these critical national security issues nor whether the secretary has the confidence of the president to enact robust diplomatic initiatives towards north korea secretary tillerson make some statements he has an envoy who goes out

a capable foreign service officer just if he does it clearly has the backing. do they want to use yet we haven't seen as you it's about language and so right now the united states is in a situation where the president has used language in a way that saves face so we don't really know how far china can go we haven't yet clearly figured out how to get him to move in a direction that really changes north korea's calculations we're talking with joel rubin the last test was seventy days ago why so much time in between do you think. that could frankly be the development phase where they were waiting to be for these rockets to a level where they could have a test that would be successful and certainly they've been watching our actions as well we've had military exercises in the region president visited the region there's a lot want to go to they have some of our military assets in in the pacific and has

not done so but certainly we're at a place right now where they have demonstrated success at launching an intercontinental ballistic missile that's one step away for a much the experts as we could watch two days right continue to blame for north korea's provocation really wants we still don't know. what you just said. the justify the means these videos will have it as any of the night plays into the haitian here domestically but by senate reflective of american values well it's certainly way to me it looks as if the president endorses an extreme political party in the british system and that from a threesome a perspective would be troubling but what it also does technically is by retreating this from a technology perspective the president through his twitter account has opened the door to his forty three million or so followers this information and he's basically given this political parties extreme party

a platform for his followers and that that has a potential to really create a lot of hostility amongst his followers towards muslims and certainly in the hurry up and theresa may when they see the president and state supporting that kind of attitude weakens them at home and their ability to keep their own communities safe in their populations feeling like they're part of their countries jones me talking to you thank you so much for your time today my pleasure thanks larry and thank you viewers for joining me on this edition of paula. taking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page treat me of kings things and don't forget use the politicking hash tag and that's all for this edition of politicking.

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