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much for your time and your hospitality thank you very much the pleasure is mine. nature usually doesn't care about fairness but i think the on the honest dominick i actually try to be environmentalists conscious more than sixty percent of your territory used to be covered by a protected rain forest you invested in the renewables you focused on equal to or as many yet despite all your efforts to be good you were hit the hardest how do you process that well it's difficult experience the reality of global warming is real reality of climate change is real and what we've been saying to the community is that we do not contribute any significant. proportions to the will gas gases coming gases. but we really will be most affected we're on the front line of climate change and the effects of climate change and you've been saying as the international community but i wonder what is the international community responding to that i think people accepted people
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accept that the caribbean adamic intuited is on the front when the global will cool . will be warm and the effects of climate change. but if indeed there we have it with discussions and conversations about climate change and not taken sufficient practical action. to minimize the impact of such disasters unconsciously dominate thinking about practical action from what i heard herrick in my required more than two hundred percent of your in g.d.p. almost overnight when you lose so much so quickly where do you even start in trying to. it's a monumental task everybody's lives life has been impacted economy has been dramatically impacted to twenty twenty six percent of g.d.p. it's a quite right indicated it has reversed all of the gains we've made a generation. so the task really is to seek to rebuild the lives of the people who
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want to go but unity to to create the world's first climate resilient nation and ensuring that what we can do for self by ourselves to mitigate against such unfair excess. collisions and. does so we're going to be pushing i know that you've got a bachelor's degree in psychology and i assumed that kind of experience with come in handy especially given how traumatized and anxious i suppose your people are. from what i've seen them in a concern they're resilient but i know that sustaining resilience over a long period of time especially when one hundred percent of your people are affected is very difficult have you given any thought on a personal level what kind of leadership there they would be expecting from you well you know time as a lot as a country the citizenry so we have to work very quickly in a number of areas and provide shelter for four citizens and sure enough the most
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vulnerable are provided with adequate means of food and and all of basic supplies. that it can take to the families so what is it going to do is to ensure that people's lives get back to normal as quick. yes possible but that's will also be hampered by your access to resources the country hasn't been sick of we can revenue says the hurricane but all costs of responding to the relief and recovery is great every single day it's important and i think that's the advice many psychologists would care for in this situation of trauma you just have to keep busy and even you know tending to your daily life and daily activities bread. it's also very hard for me to believe that. at least for a second you are not paralyzed by fear of that ferocious force return to have you look that fear in the eye is the reality that you have to live with. but we have no control over the patterns what we seek and to say to the developed countries those
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minimizing your emissions gas emissions so that we can get the oceans to be a bit cooler a lot warmer as it is known i'm getting well but that is a very monumental tell task i mean that that would take decades if not more to change that we have to start somewhere and i think i think it is not only for us as leaders go into pars and a negotiated agreement signing off and post into ourselves and to the world that we have reached an agreement in paris but we can see the operationalization of disagreement and what you see into the international community as one of the developments did the time a little is not at all what i mean the entire care bill could have been wiped away by these two category five hurricanes and it is unprecedented in the history so i believe that if there is a serious commitment to the science behind climate change which the majority will lose except with the united states president was agree the climate change is real
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it must be seen by the practical sense and what you see into the as a comedy you have an obligation you have a responsibility because we did not start the war it was been visited upon us let me ask you a few questions on dominic because you've already said that you want to build on many rebel dominica into the world first climate change resilient community what exactly do you mean by that and what would that take ensuring that we continue to put together violet and you indicated in open points that. we have been friends of the environment long before climate it became fashionable to. more than sixty percent of countries protected very far by law or marine we have several men. reserves in a country three of them. would be promoted eco terrorism so all our development has been the wrong environment what is it going to do is to build more resilient infrastructure. to ensure that or construction the world homes or businesses or
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properties can withstand a category five hurricane i think you i'm sorry friend is actually you cannot do that without the help of the international community resources because just for housing alone we're going to need about fifty million u.s. dollars to build in excess of five thousand homes for citizens so to this very i think interesting idea of turning your extreme vulnerability into your asset you know building the first rail of life map for studying the effects of global warming have you heard any practical response there has been some there's been some we just came from. a donors conference in the united nations in new york. for the caribbean two billion dollars pledged i want to ensure that those pledges can materialize in a quick time because there's one issue of making fun of committing funds to us. there's a second and more fundamental point of access in those funds because the put it is
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a very protracted process that takes years the next hurricane season is about six seven months away a little time without oversight the most our time has passed so it passed by in respect to period it was the lower ourselves to be more resilient to put in mitigation systems in place so what you're saying richard levin property is that the international community supports here in principle in of words in assurances but not exactly in the not material norms not to the extent this is empathy the sympathy this concern is a reality that we face in. but we would like to see a greater efforts underpass. the international community especially those of us who expose or support for climate change and for the effects of climate change and for the need for us to take action as global leaders to protect islands ago as we have
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lowered the road for all of the bigger countries if many states and many provinces . and the extent of the of the economies now dominate the has had some experience in diversifying our reinventing its economy and an ex-president you diversified into turns but both of these in content orating industries are highly weather and climate sensitive other any sectors that would allow you to develop your economy on your own and to cray's that reliance on on the natural habitat what you followed was in regards to even have it about the economics it's a program i've heard about elizabeth investment program this has been the only source of revenue for the country and i can see without any fear of contradiction i did not bill for that program would have been able to provide for our citizens currently this is what we were using to clear the rules and streets this is what
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we've been using to buy food supplies for citizens this is what will be used to people what that we have been using this funds to pay our salaries we have peter sellers to a public servants on time from september to know so it's very well senator for your economy from what i know is that are is around thirty thirty five percent of your economy broadly in union from the o.e.c.d. both on the. banking privacy laws and on the whole industry of offshore financing we also stain a bill is the reliance on that particular into which part of the international security apparatus we will do everything we have to do to protect security to the world we are law abiding citizens so whatever concerns that may have is a month or so they're not because well because. of programs is this misinformation that's not really about the concerns i think the industry as a whole is in pretty hot water is and there are calls to simply get rid of it the
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source programs in europe also is not only terrible in this was purely in europe. they have the same source markets it's all of us to sit the pseudo and dialogue on this issue but i believe that we have a very transparent program that is open to scrutiny but the sustainability of it is you know they'll always be demand obviously the fluctuations in the demand but the rule is a very unstable world and there are many. many many many citizens in different parts of the world who are below press owners of the other we're looking to provide a civil opportunity for the families and for themselves and i think the south and they're also affording your the opportunity to sustain your economist rationally because you know you're so hard pressed when it comes to our culture our tourism and i guess what my question is rather you believe that a country like your should be given perhaps
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a preferential treatment in that regard because from what i understand them correct me if i'm wrong. is extremely difficult for you to depend on your environment for the reasons that are beyond your control and it is a extremely difficult or increasingly difficult for you to rely on that internet internationalized sector because of the pressure from certain economists or it is almost like you're caught that when you know this is the reality was. small states because our challenges. are unique to dominate it's true to any carbon country or any small only but up and state with the same sentiments of course we all like to have. a feel for it unity. to provide for citizens and sometimes we feel that we have been challenge though we've been pushed back we're not being given the fear here in by those who have the authority to make decisions for the rest of us and it was we don't we're not asking for hundreds of all we are asking for is
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a feel for it unity to provide for people to reduce poverty to create employment and to diversify the economy and small you various things that we are doing for sales or those are doing it but the very same people have an issue if we do it. as they say my is right you know there's a reality of the world and we just have to live with it and so by would in the circumstances but all people are resilient you know we do with what we have what we have done in the caribbean to sustain these islands is nothing short of a miracle all prime minister we have to take a very short break now but then we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. this
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in two days about the individual so it's so different and it's all about the team and i think it. is a quality that icelandic football players have maybe because we come from an amateur environment so we know that the other nations have better individual and more individual qualities than we have so we have to be collectively better than others. welcome back to one's apartment it was the health care of prime minister of the many couples going back to the issue of hurricane irene the thing that was any particular unusual about it is how it got so powerful so quickly it went from category one into a category five storm in less than twenty four hours and many scientists that attribute darth supercharging
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a fact to the increase of just one degree celsius that was recorded in your region over the past century this region if the current forecasts that are correct is expected to add another two or three degree centigrade by the end of this century do we have an understanding at this point of how bad it can actually be i think. but we can only do so with the help of its national community because of course with the structure but you need to all to withstand such disasters and it is in general for. deferred is the issue of the resources to have two strings put in place when we just build a bridge for example some real defense world order all resources what was said to suit a call to your citizen that it was we want to let you sure you because of technology that can be employed that can withstand sorts of disasters coming out of trouble cost america a liberal alliterative was survived just returned from
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a big climate change conference in germany which decided to postpone the display discussion on the biting details of the paris clime deal as well as the very pressing of climate financing until next year and i think it's clear that the global north and the global south have as our different understanding of urgency bell how does it make you fear the issue is that it is a bit depressing. sore to our friends in. and as a community in an operation we run the risk of. they have been zero attendance at future cup meetings it is very simple to offer a chalets accord we know all of the political challenges which countries have we know that the developing world need to do been called to create employment and to generate energy for the citizens so we're not unmindful of the need for them to do what they have to do always say it is. hell force me to get against your actions and press for president clinton put it rightly only his apparent. simple signature
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to transfer the funds will be robust in its access and so that we can know speak a boat. helping countries build resilience helping countries bill capacities helping countries be to get it is again some disasters you mentioned the issue of attendance and i don't think the issue that is an issue at all because in fact the conference in germany was the country ever held twenty five thousand feet then all that too is nowadays and all in the caribbean but do you think that money perhaps would have been better is found instead of holding that conference in germany just giving it to those who are most affected if you are irrational you think and you would say well there's a band in this let us not attend this mittens and the more it makes no sense it's cause my church x. amount of money to go to germany makes no sense to go to paul and so forth but the reality is we can't be rational with this very important matter this is
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a boat life or death for citizens is the most survival for countries and we must not give up on hope we mustn't give up on the fight the because if we give up on the fight there's nothing that happens so we have to keep the developed will keep the fire to the hands go to has the fire and sure that the actions that they committed to take an oath will be perry's agreement so will they give up. and if you ask me you know what i'll be attending the conference in poland next it goes with yes they will because it is too important for the survival of the citizens the and for the koreans were going to paris in december with president of france as convene. the style of a summit. to see whoa hoping to see hope. we can start operationalize and sort of us around because. you know we can do so well it is important for us to be
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a good girl can they be a little bit brutal i'm sorry for jumping in often as i did i wonder if you ever had an impression that industrialized nations and by other also mean russia because it's a big and a strong nation while sharing your concerns in principle kind of decided to allow the nature or in this case climate change run its course and if that means that a couple of small island nations have to follow in the footsteps of their branches so be it have you ever had that impression. yes sometimes i do there is not the generalised to address the issues but as i said to you since your list of those you know we can all give up on this it is too it is too crucial for us to do about it. but my hope and prayer is that we will lose those who have the authority to make a real difference because be the champions for small states they can be
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a champion as they have indicated. and we believe that to be the case that the general about it that the motives cells can live in taken some practical action in helping constables you compare with climate change to war and i think that's actually very interesting comparison as a former full worker is fun and because i think there is like in major wars there is a disconnect between your action and the consequences that. followed you do the action but the consequences the suffering percent by somebody else. do you have any idea what could raise that potential gap do you think the countries that have the resources will ever commit them to your pride unless they feel the pinch themselves . if and i think they're feeling the pinch but not exactly and other things here and extent of it and i've said to your friends of north america. that
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ninety nine point nine percent of the drugs which pass through our islands from south america so often such an american go to europe or north america when four countries are unable to move to provide for themselves was going to happen to all of his jobs are going to pass and who is going to go through who will have the means of providing the kind of security that we can provide in the kind of interception that we've been provided to help protect the children and the youth of america of america and europe so what you're saying is that you need to start acting irresponsibly for them to actually start playing and also i believe sometimes i have to sort of. when you a good student you get punished for being a good student that's the countries which receive all of the attention of the billions of countries that have created problems in themselves you know a war not respecting the rule of law international of law who are not respecting the rights of the citizens they get all of the billions but we in the caribbean who are who respect the environment who protect the environment who respect the rule of
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law i've been punished for it how much is how much was a cost of a draw and one draw on. is it so well because the world will. probably and. i will say a local she doesn't have a right to responsibility to protect its citizens and what have we determined but what you see is actions as you take it in your countries are impacting on all countries in the caribbean legatee if we can i ask you one more question specifically about climate finance because it is a very pressing subject it's also about choosing your priorities. i've seen some estimates that about one fifth of the funds and development aid currently goes into the adoption to climate change there as goes into decreasing gas greenhouse gas emissions but as you pointed out even germany of a country that in a prize itself on being at the forefront of fighting climate change is pretty lax
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when it comes to keeping their obligations do you think that is a fair distribution and do you think perhaps that so much focus on on the greenhouse gas emissions maybe deflecting attention from the consequences from what actually can be done at this point regardless of whether we think climate change is man made or not will the difficulty with the developed world uses more resources. to put more renewables in the country to reduce on the use of coal and first as you will to generate energy well if go to this issue or other petition is something that mr visited because it is some instances you can adopt. you know for example worse or so moves schools and health clinics so level fifty plus years old so you can make them smile and we can adapt them they have to be demolished and rebuilt. take into consideration the present the realities of the
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climatic and collisions and achieved is so what we say is whatever you want to spend on a country's five of us what ricin is this that you have committed to us while make it available you know and to. allow us to have access to it now because. time has passed on us in terms of the opportunity which you have this war window which you have. to put in systems to mitigate against disasters and to build good to resilience no conscience and the verifiable question if i may according to world bank forecasts the number of severe hurricanes is expected to increase by forty percent and double temperatures rise by two degrees. if they rise by forty degrees and i apologize. for the question in advance but i think it's part of a good governance to plan for every eventuality if worse comes to worse do you
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think any thought should be given to relocating nations like yours no realty would look it we believe that we can survive the realities of the of the dramatic conditions. but you can build resilience you is a technology they really were energy assistance you were for which you pursuing solo which proves we have had hydrofoil us for the five years. energy for us so this is a technology and this is the meaning of well this is there is a political will from us this fall and states with this one is this to pursue that particular agenda to pursue the particular vision we don't like us very clearly articulated its vision to becoming the world's first climate is the nation and what research into our friends in the caribbean is let the caribbean become the first region climate resilient region in the world where we have a challenge is not having the resources that were selves if we had the resources
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there was else we wouldn't be having this interview if you are talking to will leaders we would be building infrastructure building homes and and ensuring that our culture is more resilient tourism plans are more resilient and i went on is more resilient so so we there's no talk about the look you move into moving to where we are so very independent states we can go to you know and that is the luxury which the developed world has and i think to it is it would be an insensitive question for anybody to ask us about relocating and i'm not talking about you you constantly need to realistically i think that would be a perhaps a good way to stimulate action because there is a rise in a family around the world people are very similar immigration white creation perhaps that could be an incentive for people to open up their pockets and finally i mean accommodate here for a while you have a situation and you know it's
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a twin island nation is it is one country. and the government has had to relook at the entire population want to go by we'll six hundred people. it is not that the going to go doesn't have the vision or the plan to build bridges resilience in this country the government again but it is over the fact that it does not a result so political will is that we have a plan we have a vision. we are seized with what we have to do what we do. is this is so important so very important element of the money and. it is sitting in the developed world. well it is a is a simple bank transfer. a prime minister best of luck in facilitating that transfer and perhaps that is unfortunate we have to leave it there and we really appreciate your time and please share your comments twitter facebook and you tube
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