missed to muslim on these really authorities have put up a number of celebrations this week to mark the seventieth anniversary of that fateful the un vote but that resolution wasn't just about the establishment of israel it was actually the endorsement of an idea over of the two states living side by side did that figure into facilities at all that it is not about only easier it is about israel and its neighbor yeah actually. you got the main sense of the resolution. division or the solution speaks about two states the whole egypt timoci of the existence of is was conditioned by an arab state and for my regret it is not happening this is not the situation well it's interesting as you just pointed out the creation of israel was very tightly linked chidi palestinian statehood at least as far as the international law is concerned but i sometimes get an impression these really politicians

a very consciously trying to sever a direct link in the international collective memory they actually won the international community to treat those issues as separate and non-related is that an accurate impression well mainly the. general public don't want to deal with the question of the palestinian state but in my opinion this connection between the two issues cannot be avoided because first of all the two people are suffering from the continuous of compassion of the palestinian territories there is no possibility to dream for a good life for the palestinian people and for the israeli jewish people without thinking about solving this continuous conflict and ending the occupation and establishing a palestinian. so what are we are talking about yet if we don't put the palestinian

issue and the continuance of the patient in the forefront we are missing the point now israel likes to market itself as the only democracy in the middle east and i heard you say before he died a more accurate description would be the jewish democracy a democracy or a country where you have to be a jew to fully exercise your democratic rights what exactly do you mean by that well first of all the definition of the israeli state is jewish and democratic in my opinion full of the arab citizens of as it is a jewish state for the jewish. citizens there more kinetic this is how it goes it splits but in my opinion even that situation has deteriorated in the last thirty years this country is led by a government to change the whole this

a nation of the state it's not like i agreed in the past that it is the full democracy but it's even less and less as through the years and the last three years there were a huge attack on the more critical margins of the state on the. judicial system on the media on the civil society and despair surely on that ites of the palestinian citizens of israel so for might a good act there is no way to talk about the only democracy in the middle east yes it might be a little bit more democratic than all the arab countries that own the but is it i likes usually to equal itself to the countries when it is when they are talking about economy but when democracy they want only to compare with and yet many of your critics would point out that your own status as a member of the knesset and the success of. other. arab israeli politicians is

a contradiction to your claim that the israel's arabic population is not being treated fairly the fact that you are who you are that you do what you do is that not a testament to israel's political diversity its democracy is all about to be elected by all of your own constituencies i think this is very wrong to think of that way there is no contradiction between the fact that even the israeli governments in the last ten fifteen years is admitting let it clearly that there was discrimination and still discrimination against the population of that doesn't mean that they deprived us from the right to be elected although you know that there was a little legislated lately one year ago for. expulsion of members of the may set and it meant mainly members so this is not an issue

of that they won't. it is an issue of the trust of a lot of people who elected us and brought us to the knesset in order to represent them there is no contradiction at all well i think it's also an issue of. electoral strategy because as you perhaps would agree with me the issue of palestinian unity both in israel and in the occupied territories has long been a challenge to the successive israeli governments i think. have taking advantage of what allowed you and some of your. arab colleagues to get elected into parliament back in two thousand and fifteen was putting your differences aside and indeed focusing on the on the common good does this experience of yours all for any broader lessons for the palestinian cause. yes of course the joint less experience

experience of bringing four different parties from different ideologies together is very. good and all to mr. model for not only our people the palestinian people in the west bank and gaza but also for that aboard who is suffering from a huge fragment days asian and even civil wars and is looking for a situational funi to for the best of the people and i think we managed to give an example and we are continuing to do it in order to bring hope to the people that you are stronger when you are united around the causes that you believe in now i know that you're also a feminist and i've read that in order to advance women's rights you consciously work together with political groups that have diametrically opposing views let's

say on the issue of occupation and i think that kind of pragmatism i agree with you that kind of pride which is the ability to put your a politics aside for the sake of the common good it's very inspiring but i wonder what goes into sustaining that how do you guard against division this when division is also a political tool and. is sometimes paddled quite consciously by various political groups well it is not a clear cut as you might. think it's not like everybody would law to call. only for the sake of one issue or put aside all the difference is. of course it is a very delicate. dilemma as that usually i face when i want to cooperate with others who deny even sometimes my right of existence as part of a minority or that. sometimes it is welling to lead. to more

critical legislations because of political view the. fear were we can call but it is very much limited and you have to be careful with it when you do it to tell you the truth it's a dilemma of every day it's not easy. to cooperate with people who deny your own people the right of existence when they deny you of that i'd of equality as a full citizen and you have to be very careful in that because sometimes it can be used against you i've interviewed a number of israeli and palestinian negotiators over the years almost all of them happen to be male so they all blame the other side for not willing to compromise for not willing to move or had for being too captive to their short term political considerations and i don't want to to propagate gender stereotypes i think wind

women can also be pretty hard headed but i wonder if as a famine if you believe that women could perhaps bring a different emphasis in today's never ending negotiating process well i believe a woman have different experiences and the have different tools of solving conflict because of those experiences they view things in a different way because there are rules in their life rules of their lives are different but that doesn't mean that being a woman is it all to magically lead to get you to be a different and go shit or a better negotiator as a feminist i believe what leads people is that ideology is their believes is their commitment to peace and to end occupation and militarism i think that seminar can bring a different political point of view. and not only women and you know also men can

be feminists if they have that i. absolutely you know not so long ago we had another prominent israeli politician here on the show that she believed me who is like yourself a strong advocate of the two state solution who is also a feminist. who believes in negotiating but who is in the opposition to the current government of benjamin netanyahu like yourself but all those common features about the two of you as far as i understand i'm not enough to bridge the ideological divide that exists between the various opposition think there is so little solidarity i'm focused on the common cause among these really opposition well first of all i think that this is a sickness that is existing in my opinion and many of the. left wing parties all over the ward i think that we are more focusing on the differences of the the common things an extra

obstacle in israel for that is the national background there is a deal legitimize ation of the political activism of the. citizens of the palestinian citizens. and also of them but believe me. you just heard the new head of the. labor party saying that. to my zinga a new partnership with us so there is first of all the ideology that livni comes from that is an obstacle for cooperation but also delegitimizing us as a palestinian community as a present at of some of this committee is another huge obstacle that those parties have. to come over and to understand that the only way to solve this situation and

to get rid of the that's an yells government is by a old soul connecting and trying to find a way how to get that well mr muslim and we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. welcome to the wonderful world of blood donation the outcome here every three weeks to get my transfusion to be specific i receive immunoglobulin my body gets and supporters

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and arab we talked about the two state solution before the break and if you look at the most recent polls a slight majority in both israel and palast what's known as the full package database de-militarized palestinian state family unification was jerusalem as the capital of israel is jerusalem is the capital of palestine as well as the divided custody of holy and historical sites what of that is non-negotiable and where do you think adjustments could be me well first of all i think we are not even in that situation with this government this government is actually netanyahu government is refusing to negotiate everybody is talking about a place process there is no process there is nothing going on there is. still that it is. very well known that there are limits or or.

yes limits that cannot be. compromised talking about jerusalem is an issue is not. compromised by the palestinian authority or. israeli side we can see how the occupation in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven became a kind of an extension and they are insisting this government is insisting enough to negotiate at all i am still supporting the two state solution the. public and the palestinian public will be changed immediately if they see. that something will be happening but we are in the last minutes of this solution this solution can be destroyed or can be irreversible in the next one year if the situation. this solution would be impossible without any

go shooting process and amps folk and turn off palestinian officials or palestinian . residents i guess over the palestine you cannot even refer to them as citizens who have a very strong feeling that. this negotiating process about the palestinian statehood has become a means of denying them that statehood because the negotiations have been going on for so long in so many formats usually leading to nothing to benefit di cost and prolonging the occupation and and the end of the day advancing these really policies do you think it's fair or do you think it's genuine and you know honest to call for more negotiations or to try one more time when at the end of the day it all adds up with palestinians being disappointed even more well i think the word shall. miss of negotiation really on the israeli side another of the

palestinian side the palestinian side. have not a lot of choices and the people who are looking for an independent. freedom from liberation from occupation they understand that the main even if they will fight eventually that has to be a negotiating in my opinion negotiation was misused only used. to bring into the new situation where only delaying the the problem and creating facts on the ground is any negotiation has to happen it has first of all to be sponsored by an international international community and not only by the united states then as states of america is not an objective. power.

school unsettling israel and palestine second it has to be clear from the beginning that it is heading for a two state solution on the borders of one thousand six to seven another thirty three and to start all from the beginning settlements is the main obstacle if it's not to freeze then we are actually killing and liquidating the two state solution now you just mentioned the united states and i'm sure you heard the trump of them in a station as customer for any new american administration intends to try its hand trying to resolve this crisis what has been your impression so far because trump is definitely not a smooth operator do you think he is most likely to make things better or worse when it comes to these very very complex issue. my regret we have seen already how trump administration and trump himself is acting on different issues

he is unpredictable he is this is the least we can say he is not stable in his policy and i had a good at it is knowing that all the people that are working with him on the palestinian israeli issue are very very much a loyal to the israeli side so this is the whole situation all these factors are not of bringing us to a good formula where i can be optimistic about what trumps administration can do in this region well there have been a number of publications and regional media. on our trans suppose it peace plan purportedly to be unveiled early next year and it's been alleged that washington meet call for a palestinian state in the gaza strip and a few claves in the west bank but it would also insist on issues including the status of jerusalem including the right of return for labor day as far as you are

concerned would that be an acceptable proposition well if you're asking my opinion this is not a starter for anything this is a stipulation that is existing. what do we mean by a state if it's the core issues are to be postponed again we have to remember us law has been. signed twenty five years ago and it depended on the ideal for stoning and we are seeing where it is leading now i think there is no way to postpone anything and legislations of jerusalem are going every day in the knesset and lead every day in the knesset and exerting gulf of parts of the west bank brought up in the knesset every day still to post one one. to create a new reality that is making the palestinian a state no more than a small autonomy and a sponsible for municipality i think this is not acceptable well speaking

about the unpredictability of the trumpet ministration just a few weeks ago it's rotten to close the washington office of the palestinian liberation organization if the palestinians did not immediately hold that complain in the international criminal court to which the p.l.o. responded that they would halt all contacts with american officials and i think it's a genuinely puzzling question of what kind of strategy is going to be most effective and least counter productive with the trumpet ministration do you think halting contacts with the americans is going to work in favor of the palestinians i think that one of the most important. and i think that should be led first of all is to create alliances that are beyond the united states the united states on. who who.

so i think of that a work with a general international community is very important to create a counterpart on that the second thing i think the palestinian people have that i to use all the means to put pressure on the occupation and to make the occupation an affordable and going using the diplomatic ways or. legal ways to do that i think this is the minimum that can be done the people who still believe in the two state solution and the one to protect the two states. should be also active to. put pressure on the american side these violations of that are it's. funny people to use these mechanisms by the international community these are mechanisms whether created from the beginning by the international community to wheels by only people who think that they have been

violated i ask you a question about there are lines is there because the palestinian authority is dependent on material support from saudi arabia for example which has been warming up to israel lately do you think the saudis can still be relied upon as a conduit it's all of the palestinian cause are is it all about that own agenda right now well in my opinion they. have always it played by their own interests and by their own agenda but it is you said warming up in israel i think it's heating up with it's not only or may it's very clear that they are opening a clear channel and normalization actions with this as part in my opinion the delay of declaring the. plan is not

by chance there is preparation steps that are taking including that relations between israel and the. war they like. the others. what you called warming up there is a new a lion is alliance that is created now in the region and i think that the collapse of the. american plans in iraq and in syria is very clear and shifting the american administration to create a new access and you'll. alliance in the region including israel as part of that opals ing on the other side what they say it is it on trying. to again keep this region entrenched and keep this region in avoiding dealing with the main problem of the palestinian issue and if i may

very quickly ask you forgive the final question it is one thing when you have a certain perhaps classified communication between officials let's say in israel and saudi arabia but public opinion is quite a different matter and i think in many arab countries the strong sentiment against israel. is. still still existing i wonder if the palestinian cause still gets any sympathy in the hearts of coalmines care about the palestinian issue as much as they used to first of all i have to say that i do differentiate between the ruling. people in the countries and the regimes and between the people the other peoples of that up nation have always understood that the palestinian issue is a nation that of war is. very much different.

conflicts that were created deliberately in my opinion and different in syria and we have to remind ourselves who is these people in each country when egyptians went out syrians are very much. little did with the bloody. conflicts in their countries of course they are not to able to look in the past with the palestinians but if you ask them you will find that they are still understanding well mr muslim and we have to leave it there think here for being with us and to our viewers please share your comments on our twitter facebook and youtube pages and i hope to syria same place same time here and will to power.

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