tv Cross Talk RT December 4, 2017 11:30am-12:01pm EST
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we. instead of talking about what's next. me from getting this close to the white house and with the pink why not ban the color pink why not stretch. into the town because i'm going to try to break me on the wheel but what i'm trying to make sure you don't scare me and i'll continue to voice my opinion i'll continue to speak out . i'm in good company. because we think. oh and welcome to you consider i'm. michael flynn admits lying to the f.b.i.
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the reaction of russia gators and the liberal media is jubilation but why flints admission in fact deflates the now popular conspiracy theory. talking some real news i'm joined by my guest mark he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have victor he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and of course we have dimitri he's a political analyst with sputnik international. in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate picture let me go to you first here. michael flynn i'm not surprised that he admitted to lying to the f.b.i. i think everybody knew that the media and a field day with that they stumbled with it is well what are the implications of this is that in the beginning of something for the end of something it's it's the
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beginning of something that's not very good for the temp of the station. and you know looking at it from the point of view what flynn actually did wrong all the charge here with was lang you know to they have be i almost a non charge would have the same time they did because flynn has decided to flip and he's going to they expect him to give evidence to give testimony that they will be able to use that robert mueller and his team will be able to use to bring down people closer to term and of course from the very beginning their original target was not flynn it wasn't planning for it it wasn't. brigades it was little boys for the cause of course they don't care by these people in the in fact in any other situation in any other election year or post election year nobody would get charged for these types of i mean if their target is stump and miller miller is not going
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to stop until he brings down the american that's his goal if he could get there mark because it seems to me and i've talked to some legal people about this is that if there were something more serious it would be some kind of conspiracy because that's what they really want they want a conspiracy. flynn didn't admit to that ok ok with mark yeah what what flynn it made it do is lying to the f.b.i. or doing his job for doing his job for doing absolutely nothing illegal to do in fact it clears up his what he admitted to in this not indignant this plea bargain is he made it that what he did was done during the transition team when he was doing his job when they were the formally elected representatives incoming the incoming government is traditionally part it's
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very common we're right there's been some suggestions that liberals want to charge perhaps flee and perhaps cushion their. son in law under the logan act which isn't nineteenth it was it was all or enacted in seven hundred ninety nine adams was where resident it has never been successfully used to prosecute anyone it hasn't even been to human right and we do know. that when you have transition teams we go back to the kennedy years ok i mean there's certainly some wrongdoing might have been done with the incoming nixon administration in scuttling a peace proposal with vietnam we saw brock obama go on his victory lap tour to europe yes ok he talked to fish oils here this is traditional but why is it different in this case well because i don't think you're right that it's traditional let's remember that obama started his term first term in office with
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this so-called recept or relations with russia so trump obviously wanted his own reset and free and was walking on exactly that. talking to the russian ambassador i was just puzzled you know i read what mr putin is accused of. asked me to keep because it more school refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions and by their midst. and of course it wasn't russia asking it was the united states asking the russians and so did i well i mean when you go to be. if russia escalated what if. all you know the real story here gentlemen bitterly but actually you want to go but. you know we're ok let's get the record straight about amir putin did come out and saying that russia would have to probably retaliate which is part of diplomatic course and i'm sorry it was. for mr larger off and then it was putin that actually overturned his own foreign minister but there's another
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name floating around here and it's cushioning here in in the in what was revealed about his relationship with israel during this same time where pressuring. i mean the united states pressure other countries on the security council the united nations not to vote on a settlement resolution which would be adversely affecting real again doesn't get a lot of media oxygen picture for obvious reasons it wasn't for obvious reasons which we don't even have to stand here but we will and the thing is that cushion is a critical part in this because the american political establishment they really do not want to go they would prefer not to go there out of impeachment proceedings because that could reveal all kinds of stuff about the democrats about the clinton campaign a death is an all the other manner for this would be a scandal of the scandal the century and not the top by the by the others so what
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will be preferred to hear and they would prefer the nixon scenario where essentially they want to have a pressure point against around and say ok so we have this against your son in law and if you do not step down if you do not quit we will go after why don't you i think you're going to do well so i think it's there we'll go after you to plow. but i think it's really risky what do you think mark i mean going after is son in law ok do they really want to talk about israel israel israel and just during the next few muslims point they will try not to talk about israel they will only point the finger at russia they will try to. build a mute these that they will a.b.c. news on this one here go ahead i am going to say the obvious they're not going to follow up on the story because israel continually metals and u.s. politics and u.s. politicians across the board both parties i are listening that's what i think it's
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a i welcome i mean israeli you know i would say control it's not to that extent but a very undue influence over u.s. politics that's the reason the zionist regime in israel now what the actual details of this is that was revealed in what flynn admitted to is that trump son in law during the transition was netanyahu asked question there who asked flynn to ask the russian ambassador and every other advance that are on the security council to vote against because u.n. resolution because they don't bargain minister and he was going to abstain that condemned israel's settlements i.e. ethnic cleansing in palestine russia of course ignored that they did not agree to change course if you will jump in zero i think it's important to note that actually the neighboring media has been very question of
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a lot of months and remember the scandal with the russian oil needs go which they try to war out of all proportion i mean this i deal with the ultra liberal ideology which is now destroying the world it is in fact color blind they're not israeli patriots they're not american patriots they're not european patriots they want control over the world and in this situation they're ready to sacrifice anyone including the. david but i think i'm not sure they want to sacrifice i think it's going back maybe to victor's point here it's just basically. prodding taunting and trump they don't want to go through with it they. want the nixon scenario where he says i don't want to go there i don't want to go that far ok i still think that's kind of dicey because i don't think there's anything more i think it's this is the end of something there's no iceberg under there's no iceberg here and the denominator the. reason you know i mean the reality is it does but for them you see perception is reality and in their way they want to paint this to the american
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public it is real that there is no as big but there's a weapons of mass destruction in iraq right there just to get by are they so driven to know because. pleaded guilty because he confessed well let me remind you that it's not intervene to lying to the f b i but there are some known russian collusion in this area not only it was of our own of the legal norms same legal norms of that of the soviet regime if you confessed you are guilty as the start of spring in general we seems to sad confession is the queen of proof so you don't have to find proof he confessed there's a lot to lying to the f.b.i. and the russian is we have to remember this and the whole thing was whether the trump team colluded with russia to guess not of their own interest taxes to her israel israel israel the latest gets blurry depending on how you try to go what. this is actually about though the question is why did flynn lie to the f.b.i.
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about doing nothing illegal right so was he is this all just a tip of some hidden russian collusion iceberg that he's going to flip or is this all they have why did he lie i'll tell you why he lied because the obama the outgoing obama administration and the media and the deep state colluded to create a witch hunt atmosphere we talked about this early on there. the whole goal here is to prevent anything to taunt occurring between russia and the u.s. and to create this new mccarthyite hysteria where you put people under oath you ask the monk comfortable questions you create a political domestic atmosphere where if you dare say oh i talked to a russian or i and we already have the transcript so you better get it straight and they say they make some little lie that is in consequential in order to play down the public for and they get nailed on which is basically playing it was just
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in competitions at the end of the day look for somebody who had been to the u.s. defense intelligence. getting into a story like this shows that he's probably not the most competent intelligence official but then again i remember david who used to be the head of the cia and he got into the most primitive kind you trap that ended his could he have whatever so it's known being resurrected him he's one of on there t.j. i did not get a lightweight he has little to no one but i don't want to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news staying with our.
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welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let me go to mark here we were told by the state department that after our t.v. was forced to register as a foreign agent and in the u.s. that it would still be business as usual now we have their accreditation withdrawn from them can't go to capitol hill presumably in the rest of washington as well. this attack is political it's obvious that very few people are speaking out about this attack on freedom of speech the western liberal media loves to say that trump is against freedom of speech but they never stick up for freedom
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of speech when it is being challenged mark we have this statement out by the u.s. state department new u.s. legislation that allows the department of justice to label media outlets as foreign agents and to monitor. internet activity presents yet another threat to the media in the united states no i'm sorry actually that was russian legislation and the threat to the media in russia the u.s. state department put out probably i mean it's a new record in hypocritical hypocritical lety for the u.s. . state department to condemn russia for a tit for tat measure that mirrors exactly what the u.s. department of joshua just did to russia he just they can't they can't even see their own pockets now it's extra you know they refuse to admit it because it's not the same when we do it and it's not the same look this has nothing to do with who
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finds out if he is funded by the british government nobody british taxpayer formally al jazeera libraries are going to twenty four and nobody is going to limit their access to america and their accreditation to american government institutions like congress or any other institutions one also has to understand here that this loss of focus with the u.s. congress if there's a domino effect because a number of other u.s. institutions they look at the good right to see whether their partners and it's going to have a domino effect where after this loss of accreditation he is going to lose accreditation at other places in the u.s. you know today when the i mean it when the american government talks of of freedom . speech it means freedom of their speech nobody else's well you know but i think it's one of the interesting things is you know i think a lot of our viewers the last few days the guardian read a pretty large piece on that on our t.v.
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and there is a sober lighter lining to all of this all this free advertising i mean it cost so much money i used to be in marketing i mean the brand awareness is really expensive to attain if there's been a lot of money and we're getting it for free the guardian's guy took about a week with his time to watch all our programs help our team i would mention picture with you know all. that but anyway what i want to say is ok it was basically for storage just as a foreign agent and we were told by the u.s. media for many years how bad thinks pression a foreign agent is you know when russia introduced the foreign agent. then michael flynn was forced to confess that he lied about his cortex with a foreign best of that period mind you it was dangerous to talk to foreign investor the only in two countries in nazi germany and in the soviet union i think no the u.s. government should really just some authoritarian regime because they had the it's
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war joke if broadcasting foreign broadcaster is a foreign agent if a person talking to a foreign investor that is a traitor and he pleads guilty then you are an authoritarian government that's let's talk let's let's let's review what the big problem with r.t. is now we refer back to this joint three agency intelligence report on russian hacking they clearly outlined the sins that r.t. has committed that has led to all of this highlights criticism of alleged u.s. shortcomings in the market see in civil liberties holo the democratic party rigging you know primary what would bernie's opinion is about the heir to a documentary about the occupy wall street movement framing the movement as a flight again. ruling class describe the current us political system is corrupt and dominated by corporations oh how far from reality is this alleged widespread infringements of civil liberties surveillance proof of police brutality if you will
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drove this ok well that's simply reporting factually he's huge to all the us which i thinks if you look real. criticism of the us economic system us current policy they've even alleged wall street greed and no us has national debt like twenty trillion dollars worth of right so let me ask you also have all the prisoners ready to waltz in greece is that superman intelligence report while. out did you hear what clapper and other secure that's all we saw would go out of both piece called quick but amazing contra wallace well there is no job at the us has a huge debt right there is no we don't know that wall street is a greedy did anyone have doubts about that crick criticising the us now makes you an enemy foreign agent oh well ok. you know why can't i when i was going to change gears he was going to europe. picture regular americans having
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a problem big problem getting a government together her coalition potential coalition partners s.p.d. they want something the electorate doesn't want they want more intensive integration of the e.u. expansion and they want to have a centralised e.u. budget. merkel is she going to have to bite because i think the electorate across the entire continent is saying no to everything i just said. so sure. her fourth chancellor in germany it was almost like hillary clinton yeah thinking. you know everything this was the inevitable. and she now isn't. serious trouble because she is no longer so inevitable more than that in the past few weeks since this crisis erupted with here not being able to form a new coalition here popularity here ratings i mean we have stuff started dropping
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even more so the german political establishment now realizes that if new elections are called and with each day we are they stuck with well here's what they think if new elections are called then those figures that the right wing girl turn to for germany and the left wing good you link it got they could go even higher and you know just to remind our viewers. for a german you go up the eleven percent before this was the first time the party even got into the stand and it got almost ten percent so it's twenty percent together well that's one thing if they don't care for of course that doesn't give them the power to change and here at this point blood gives in the but our potentially to determine what the coalition exactly and the german political establishment is carrot even well i think it's a huge humiliation for the social democratic party of germany because their leader martin schultz said of times i'm not going to go into this big coalition i'm not
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going to go to these big. guys i know your politics are this big coalition so it's a huge humiliation for him but i think it's not the first humiliation for s.p.d. basically not don't forget it was the social democrats who warmed to yugoslavia in one thousand nine hundred nine it was the social democrats that first used the german troops abroad after the world war two so if they have one humiliation more it does make any money you can for the rest of my it is this establishment the feel that they're entitle to rule ok this is and i see this all the way with the whole issues with brakes that all the way across the continent plus the e.u. beating up on poland in and i'm hungry if you deviate from the ideology it's dried . and you have to or ideology criticize criticize or this is the they don't learn from their mistakes they just double down just like the democrats are in the us angela merkel has been in power for more than a decade now all the her numbers on like say putin's who's been in office as no one
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cares to notice a similar amount of time are going down less than a third of the german electorate voted for her but the german political establishment is scared of change the social democrats they originally didn't want to form a new coalition that says they must said why because any party including theirs that has been in coalition with angela merkel's government has seen their numbers similarly plummet in the polls as votes go right and left but now the s.p.d. is faced with the possibility of another election the german establishment doesn't want this and the s.p.d. doesn't want this the social democrats because they know that in a new election this will lose even more seats to the right and left regardless of whether they form a coalition so this is this is a stalled marriage and they hope that this is going to go away it's not it's not going to go away well across all across the sensor rights until there are the
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western world isn't going to think that this is just some kind of momentary lapse of sanity no this is the new norm and the establishment better start waking up to it well as people are tired of going to be tired of you know how diligent they want to monitor it with every year every day markets are right that america becoming toxic toxic with the voters i mean the liberals they're pretty give a critic part of germany why did the vote plummet you know when mr green to invest in man it was a coalition partner because he was in coalition with her and no doubt my coalition for you because you didn't you would need all that freedom a great party doesn't want to repeat the flea. all of the restaurant. maybe toxic with the voters but the liberal media and commentary across the west this door who are getting a raise to her. the feeling world when you write
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a story is like the international. force in the talk seek poison i'm sort of the older throw dog when you're going to nicolas isn't it and in this part of the program here victory it's it's not about politics it's about ideology that that's what's really at stake right here because you have these opposing seemingly opposing political parties but at the end of the day they have a common interest maintaining the status quo of course and we actually see them thanks to the same with some eastern european countries like hungary and you know. european union through also drink or sanctions imposed sanctions against poor and with constant criticism against. sanctioning itself and you know what they don't see in this in the times of the soviet union in the sixty's seventy's and the it is they used to be a concept called the museum that comes from congo what did it actually mean it was a hybrid it was a favorite because the soviet serialized you know each of these countries got their
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own. national culture and it was a little different their political culture was different their political roots that they were different from the soviet ones why not allow more sort of. a little of those into it today the americans and the germans they don't even want to. get on the ticket run out of time here gentlemen many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. think next time remember crosstalk. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the
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world of politics sports this list i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. there is no center in the united states' political discourse it's all center right ever since the clinton camp the people who came into power the center right has become the right and there is no peace party that exists in my country and i don't see any evidence of it except this third party that is so criticized the green party. of gun some is not is not back and could place is not a good country. church yes it is the minister phillip bunch of i must love to stump. you that's good at the message just go there is. just that the culture. of the culture is less with the fear of secular
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suggests pulling in just a little and biased from a fellow muslim of oneself to be a little. mostly helpless fossil. play almost anything for the members of the base the not of the kind our better john and i'm based on are much less the titan american i do not believe that i would miss rice from catholic matter how not eating. from a shallow tummy and cannot. shoot from i cannot move he was almost feeling now we're going to fuck him on a. good read through supreme assault and now far as bush as he is able to sit i don't want to go to the cities in the macabre poisoners or the whatever the street the. south facing imo bhargava of the lot of this. series was supposed.
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sleep sleep. sleep. graphic and disturbing video emerges showing the body of the former yemeni president. he is understood to being killed by who he fights is often an alliance between them collapsed last week. also this hour the president of mali conflicts the french account of an ashtray i can northern mali you know tell you best saying the mumbai ogmund killed soldiers not jihadists and another attraction from a major us media outlet the coverage of the scandal surrounding the white house taking trump's alleged collusion with russia.
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