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the president the dollar loss from the headlines we reveal the deadly game of back in the middle east militants on the desperate cost of life on british benefits all the civil war coming up in today's going underground at first nato nation media loves nothing better than downing the government of venezuela the world's largest known source of oil they echo u.k. prime minister drazen may when she condemns jeremy corbyn his labor party is now leading by eight points according to the most accurate pollsters at this summer's general election savation this is a politician who thinks we should take the economics of venezuela as our role model . here is one typical state mandated b.b.c. version of what is happening in venezuela. hugo chavez looking over caracas. but now he's dead. and the poor living there in the barrios historically his political base have turned against the movement he created really that report came
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ahead of state elections in venezuela that saw chavez's movement sweep the board in state government ships that despite a venezuelan government under chavez which failed to sufficiently diversify its economy away from oil and its saudi backed price instability so why is chavez's successor nicolas maduro doing so well despite u.s. sanctions perhaps because of continual revolutionary ideas like these. given this we know buying plenty of. them are they getting them on now are part of the next set of a pickle enough even if. you don't want any sort of a yes president a glass but there was announced a new oil backed crypto currency called the petro in some emerging economies way which will be another nail in the coffin of washington's federal reserve system donald trump's federal reserve chair person certainly doesn't know how to regulate it i think it's. important to understand that this is payment innovation
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taking place entirely outside the banking industry and to the best of my knowledge there is no intersection at all in any way between bit coreen and banks that the federal reserve has the ability to supervise and regulate janet yellen there who's term as u.s. fed chair and in less than eight weeks well we caught up with yet another new cryptocurrency recently the group to ruble to be created by the russian federation which of course is allied to venezuela what is it well we asked all the former russia's deputy minister of economic development was in london for the annual russian british business forum opposite the palace of westminster. russian federation state secretary it is the crypt to ruble that i understand he has not an initiative of central bank over oh well commented in the balls to about it where it cautious in terms of i mean we're as regulators in russia. very cautious about
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the currency and they can see consists of hers in terms of and then emitted terms of terrorism sponsoring and so on so forth so we're we're not against the technology that underlies this and of new financial instruments but from the terms from the point of view of regulator we have to. develop the mechanisms and tools to regulate this currency and to make it more transparent to make it more controllable for for the government so if we're talking about the group the currency in russia it can be a. state issue this crypto currency in terms of one of the mean the meaning of that it would be using russian technology and this year's the yester that would this go into as a nation so it's a discussion it's not that is here and it has already made it
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a discussion and discussion. is now in every central bank of every country because nobody knows what to do with this group the currency is now i know the russian government has said that if russia didn't do it your asian countries will do it in any case tell me about the importance of the brics economies the brics bank we don't we all we hear about in the two nation media arguably is still the i.m.f. and world bank. no breeze is some kind of a club in fact it's not the financial organisation but. every country which is in bricks to establish more clothes more say trust trust worth the. operation and communications between governments and between businesses of this country is we have many fields we have many. conferences where we meet with our friends from brazil china india and south africa we have many discussions
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on it gonna make some difference fields of cooperation is there room for a post briggs it britain in those would be good. yes of course of britain's always welcome and you do see progress being made at a faster pace now than say a year ago when the asian and international vesper bank was launched. progress is here but it's not that fast. we have this progress. in position to command deeper because it's not my sphere of responsibility in russia to. monitor of the of the stuff sure when it but when it comes to british business doing deals with russian business a lot of people ways comment on the fact the russian economy is so dependent on oil prices is that something that your department does a lot of working out to do what it was he working on it for the past i think
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ten or fifteen years in fact very job. and now economy is not that dependent now and then it was say five or seven years before. you know. we saw the this. huge drop in oil prices and now economy sustained and it was. so all this price shocks of course they are. very crucial for us in economy because we're still dependent on oil prices and gas prices but it's not that critical for usha now because we now have a machinery and work culture. services and all this new sectors of post-industrial as condiment city and so on so we see that. this give us more sustainability if we're talking about the
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external shocks because there are sanctions on elegy because a third of energy in the play germany's energy needs are for whom are russia would you say to the fact that drazen is very proud that britain is voting for sanctions against russia doesn't that hurt economic development a little in the post potential of trade you know every sanction. negatively. in any of them a development but for both sides for those who. accept the sanctions. for those who is under this sanction other sanctions hurting russia yes of course there were frightened deeply two years ago and still there are russia but russia has already adapted to this kind of stuff so we developed many or all internal sectors that we previously alack and that we imported much less in this critical sphere than be imported before so sanctions of course and they always
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negative but the degree to which they negatively influence the economy of this degree is much less than the much lower now than it was before and we see it on muckraker nomics perceive that government growth. record how frightened do you think british business people are going to be doing business with russia given there is a sanctions against the russian federation to my mind they're not so afraid or. ready we had to two years previous two years when the foreign business especially in the u.s. and the u.k. in and and several parts of europe they were very cautious about having any deals with russia over the russian companies when the they already have business with the russian and this standby position i see today and yesterday distant by position is changing rapidly see many businessman who is really. in position who
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wants to to make business with russia who want to expand their activity in russia they see the sun micro konami position in russia right now we recovered in terms of economic growth it's not that high but it's sound it's about two percent this year and we're. looking forward for the next year mob to mystically them. before recently maybe even britain of the return of ok but when you're back in moscow at the economic development department of the russian federation and you see headlines saying that the russian government has hacked elections and caused chaos around the world how do you see. it on the. british i'm not prepared at all so this kind of question but you know it's. of course we have our minister of. foreign affairs and they provide russian position on all this topics and to my mind
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i'm not a diplomat i feel that this negative publicity of course. is not good for do in real business and it's unfair if we're talking about russia to victimize russia with all this stuff i think it's just. negative p.r. but it's exaggerating a little bit we've called that this. wave of negative news about russia. it will slow down and we see already that it. several signs that it's going to slow. of course it's about the business they feel nervous about making deals with the russian companies but i hope very much that this situation is not forever this year we already see. good news good good news that i would say and this is what he said to his national business is thinking of investing thinking oh they're going to be even harsher sanctions on russia which
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will affect our investment if we think of a new deal with a russian company i hope the won't be any more harsh sanctions but if they will be in place i think that the russian economy has the potential to sustain and then a case of thank you thank you. after the break as n.h.s. leaders gather today in london to discuss privatization of health care why are people dying earlier than other developed nations here in tory led britain we are oxford university professor. and from that linus we go in search of a white flag from the orange order and the red card for the white helmets all the symbol going up in but to have going on the ground. here's what people have been saying about rejected and this is the law. of the only
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show i go out of my way to find you know the really packed a punch oh yeah it's the john oliver of marty americans do the same we are apparently better than blue. sea people you've never heard of. jack to the next president of the world bank page because you write me seriously send us an e-mail. they call me a useful idiot i mean you called me a useful idiot a useful idiot useful idiots go expressing my opinions on t.v. there's two things missed doing it behind this record is the same strategy we attack persons instead of talking about what's next why stop feel banned me from
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getting this close to the white house i'm with a group code pink why not ban the color pink one hour stretch beyond the right i should be sent to the town because i want to try to break me on the wheel i have put up with a long time with this sort of nonsense you don't scare me and i'll continue to voice my opinion i'll continue to speak out in good company i'm in good company you're going to be you want to do this because we are free thinkers. welcome back when we did go through some of the week's papers or is a little bit forgotten former liberal democrats let's go straight your first paper though the kind there in the online canary destitute canary says a shocking report on suicide attempts among benefit payments has surfaced but the media is silent i had to read this article twice afshin because it says that over forty percent from now forty three percent of claimants and maybe almost fifty
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percent in some cases have attempted suicide taking their own life who are on disability welfare bit and he's a forty seven percent of female that's right so you're talking about almost one in two people who are on disability benefit have tried to end their lives and you can't tell whether it's higher or lower it is higher no if that was three years ago those figures so it could be even more now but whether it's thirty or forty or fifty percent this is a phenomenal proportion of people who are vulnerable now the government with its large jessa said oh this is a complex issue here the work bench is officially the government it's a very complex issue or that's great and so they clearly understand it but this is at a time when we've seen incredible pressure on people who live on benefits not just those of disability issues but when you look at that kind of figure let's take a step back we're meant to be the fifth or sixth richest nation on earth and almost half the people in this category have tried to take their own lives i think that's
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more than complex i think it's scandalous. beatriz of layers bigger things to worry about like actually staying in power to go into poetry on here while she herself is a wounded animal and patchin says this will the day you can finally surrender or the secretary for ten years is going on i know all of these people very well and what the reason may has walked into is a perfect storm of contradictions on the one side she's trying to make bricks it means. whatever that means on the other side she get rid of the day you pay remember the democratic unionist party are the only thing that stands between her and minority government oblivion their propping up jeremy cauldron premiership well perhaps we'll come back to that in the future g.o.p. don't want but this is the double whammy here the do pay sort of depend on three's a may for their power and they say so quite clearly they themselves wilson who's one of the more outspoken on this earth and he says well we have
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a lot of power in house of commons he's dead right on the other hand if they exercise that power then the very government through which they get that off already could go now what's all this about it's the thorny issue of the land border which some people don't even realize exists between the united kingdom and the european union that's between the north of ireland and the south what are we going to get here all kinds of interesting words being used is there going to be some kind of regulator recon virgins what does that mean for the north of ireland they say it's a muddling of language but in rigid seymour's piece here it's interesting saying the d.v.d. they come from working class protestant roots they will not negotiate be machiavellian about this when it comes to their own constituency being threatened and the idea of a united ireland on the united ireland you're absolutely right there's nothing that they can even suggest or hint at without losing massive supporters the d.p. you're also right that pretty much every political party in northern ireland is socialist leaning two thirds of the economy just short of that is state funding so
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on that they united on you know united ireland they couldn't be more divided and this is an issue which is going to run and run because it's not a tall clear to me how to resume a square as this one and they don't want to have a border which is the irish sea because the d.p. would consider that to be defeat they go she asians do today bomb body a decision big employer in northern ireland next two weeks from the bone parliament as it's known to great story we've done four point six billion pounds worth of sales. according to latest figures it's not really a funny story though let's go to this yes the memo the middle east monitor says you haven't solace in iran has to mediate the dispute with this story is published online just minutes before the reporting of the death of the longtime auto correct supported by the west and that's what makes it so complex is to make it simpler a little bit simpler there's been a lot of internal fighting on the anti saudi arabia side remember saudi arabia's
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been bombarding yemen for quite a long time here for political interest they want to reinstate their person at the top sally was against that but it looks like he was trying to bring his side together there's been a falling out which we have got time to go into the details of now and being in his death now this is a very unstable position they'll be militants they'll be moderates in here but there's also risk this will weaken the people fighting saudi arabia it's so difficult to understand i think everyone just says at the moment that will certainly britain will earn lots of money out of the deaths because it was earlier a bit does know committed another onslaught on civilians according to aid agencies but but even if that's right it's very hard to get information in the u.k. let's go on to that actually because i mean you must i mean you've been talking about this when your radio shows and we talk about a year ongoing under government or it's going to twenty first century and this ties
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into the previous story as well a twenty first century wire says what to expect from b.b.c. panorama and guardian's whitewash of u.k. government funding terrorists in syria so while all that's going on in yemen and we've got involvement there we are also involved in helping militants who i suppose the british government hopes will overthrow assad in syria still even after the us dollar dog the geneva talks finally the b.b.c. would have long denied it and they continue to use pictures from the white helmets and so over. finally a panorama program in water that is no watches as we had times about what's the point to an extent because there's a whole list of things they didn't mention not they didn't mention the white helmets involvement with militants either they think that the public don't understand it or it's just not palatable either way well ten out of ten for beginning to talk about it two out of ten for the depth with which you did it and i should say also i did see the program at least the former chair of the british
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foreign affairs select committee speaking very well about it but was he the former chair of the board of as i wonder why i wonder why often there were no big thank you. well the latest official figures show excess winter deaths in england and wales have jumped by forty percent that's thirty four thousand dying in the last winter quarter of mainly the elderly but what exactly are tens of thousands of people dying could it be post twenty zero eight crashing your liberal austerity policies carried out since tereza may entered the government with the u.k. falling behind many developed nations for life expectancy and now joined by one of the world's greatest geographers oxford universities holford mackinder professor of geography professor danny dorling he's also a visiting professor at goldsmiths and university of london and a visiting professor at university of bristol is latest book do we need economic inequality is out now in paperback daddy welcome back to going underground i know that there may be a flu epidemic on the way in britain who knows but let's take us back when it comes
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to life expectancy tell me about the great old days of the mid nineteenth century when life expectancy improved in britain. and you have to go back to the nineteenth century to find periods where life expectancy was actually only going up slowly the life expectancy men about eighteen ninety you're looking at forty two years for men about forty five years for women and from their normal to become to advise it most in the eighty ninety eight it was at the beginning of the last century rose in one thousand twenties martine thirty's lines a year of every field for years at times and it did this constantly constantly even for the second world war even for standards you know nine hundred fifty s. it was actually quite rapidly the lot even with the massive smoking and yes yet despite smoking the improvements in public health improvements medical knowledge improves the standard of living. meant that we actually saw life expect the going up every single decade since eighteen ninety one it went up faster for women in
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first because it was men he started smoking after first world war but then when the man men began to think about smoking in one thousand nine hundred eighty. in large numbers the gap between men and women which used but all the time it was improving at an incredible rate what about the hardline one nine hundred seventy s. when trade unions words of or even landed. faster than one hundred fifty thousand sixty's the one nine hundred seventy s. a much maligned decade in the night in seventy's for the first time for a long time the city of sheffield actually had a better life expectancy than the national average and that's in seventy's were very good decade for most people ok so let's take us to today david cameron forms is gone damn go elation in twenty ten what happens then and it was razor may as well secretary what happens then we don't begin to notice until twenty twelve was when we first noticed we began to see mortality actually rising first of all only for very elderly women women aged over eighty began to lose
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a few years of life on average about twenty fifteen it's spread a bit to wider groups by twenty forty you're looking at men and women. twenty fifty and we had quite a lot of excess that more than you normally expect and now now when we look back at twenty time we can see that life expectancy has hardly changed at all between twenty ten and now whereas in every other country in europe it has is this is quite outside those b.m.j. figures about austerity you're just looking at these life expectancy statistics this is just from the office of national statistics the office of national statistics produced what were called the two thousand and fourteen base projections for the future and in october just a few weeks ago this year they produce a two thousand and sixteen base these are updated and the projections actually say that by about twenty forty one men and women will be living almost a year less than was predicted two years earlier and the projections allow you to work out every year how many more people with e.o.n.'s say have who died or expect
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to die in a future if the principle projection is now followed now i know you. written or speculated on a correlation with the fact you mentioned twenty twelve twenty twelve was the health and social care act now implemented by jeremy hunt the disruption of that act calls is one of the reasons that there were many meetings but little known back to you or so it inequality so that that was not good for the health service it didn't make it more efficient but also systematic underfunding we're not increasing the funding of the health service as much as we need the aging the population and we're spending far less about it on our house that they spend in france and germany and so on but more importantly than that the cuts the social care funny for elderly people you know numbers of cuts and visits to people who are elderly and frail is empty and frail first of all sort of the big increase in mortality but there are other cuts because the meals on wheels services customer will service it's the home
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of austerity is it it changes so much about life in your country it makes life worse and the people actually suffer the votes of those who are better we need a very frail towards the end of life we're talking about a very singular reaction to the twenty crash and we're really talking about tens of thousands of people effectively being killed since twenty ten let alone the forty thousand a year from air pollution according to. this is the earlier than you would expect now most of these people so far have been very elderly people amongst the numbers have been about two thousand young men and one thousand relatively young women but if you look at you know a net projections of principle projection going full it the additional deaths which are about a million up to twenty fifty's eighty percent of those additional premature deaths are people kone eighteen forty and sixty so as you get older if they do not change if we're still living under this kind of regime of this kind of quality
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of social care and the funding of our health service and basic this regard for people around us then we can all expect to live harder line. right and those lies and we thought was going to be the case just two years ago and as you said from your reading of the official statistics the treasury is almost already priced in the early deaths thus showing that the budget of the united kingdom is doing better than it might have been thanks to people dying oh yes yes the budget was well here's a put these then is now the official projection to britain pension funds have found out that they produce their liabilities by feet under and billion pounds because of their own estimates of the effects of this. pension fund say actually in the financial times it was almost celebrated as look we're solvent map but it's all phony. and the problem is that as this kind of news is drip count over the years it was the ninth completely in two thousand and twelve thirteen and then going to be sure began to go very quiet in fourteen or fifteen sixteen but as we slowly become
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to realize that this is not crying wolf is as really happened and is happening we've become used to it maybe that's why it's so bad because we're such apply a population that we are willing to accept the most important thing in life our health being damaged by how our government behaves ok well just finally aside from so the rating the deaths that make the british public accounts you do better you're one of the world's greatest experts on housing surely you are celebrating the extra forty four billion pounds that the government as announced for building three hundred thousand new homes a year. they've announced this kind of thing many many times over and there comes a point. just lisa's trust in the announcements. if they had wanted to do something they would have actually done it by now what they mainly do in the change in stamp duty as well as one example of this is they work to try to keep house prices as high as possible and they do that because they believe that the most economically successful city in the world is the most expensive city in
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the world which is london and the cost of how the part of that to economic success until they get that mindset and so they can realize it. what matters is how well people are. living our happy that living actually psych why are you not addressing the things that we know but no doubt the next tory m.p.'s on this show will will dare to disagree with your president only thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday it was journalist for this a b the following recent return from syria it's razor maze government will ever stop funding groups which supported the destruction of new york's twin towers on nine eleven till then keep it top five social media will see on saturday thirty years to the day of the beginning of the first intifada against the illegal u.k. backed israeli occupation of palestine including the disputed city of jerusalem where in the past twenty four hours donald trump has signaled his intention to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv. whenever
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our headline stories this international olympic committee team russia from the twenty eighteen winter games after a two year long doping scandal this spied a lot of concrete evidence to support the claims of a state sponsored drug program. these. so will participate be to individual or team competitions on those and the olympic else leave from russia. this may just written on the faces of team russia south fleet says the i.o.c. announces the ban of its headquarters in switzerland there is now a question mark over whether russian sportsmen and women will boycott the games entirely. and other news stories this hour the u.s. president prepares to recognize jerusalem as the capital city of israel.
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