process going but i think my take on it is from the foot right from the right from the off ok martin it's always really good to get your take going to have to leave it there that was martin jay a journalist based in beirut for us thank you. thank you for watching we'll have more news from just over half an hour. time after time if you were going underground as today a court in belfast holds a hearing into three dissident republicans charged with conspiracy to murder in their fight for a united ireland coming over the show to get whether it's a bit going bubble or the demise of the u.s. federal reserve we speak to russian federation state secretary although who is

deputy minister of economic development goals us about moscow's new krypto. new official figures showing tens of thousands of so-called excess with deaths in britain why are people in tory britain dying earlier than in other developed nations we ask one of the bulls greatest geographers professor danny dorling from the headlines we reveal the deadly game of backing the middle east reluctance on the desperate cost of life on british benefits all the simple growing up in today's going underground first nato nation media loves nothing better than downing the government of venezuela the world's largest known source of oil they echo u.k. prime minister drazen may when she condemns jeremy corbyn whose labor party is now leading by eight points according to the most accurate pollsters at this summer's general election savation this is a politician who thinks we should take the economics of venezuela as all role model

here is one typical state mandated b.b.c. version of what is happening in venezuela. hugo chavez looking over caracas. but now he. and the poor living there in the barrios historically his political base have turned against the movement he created really that report came ahead of state elections in venezuela that saw chavez's movement sweep the board in state government ships that despite the venezuelan government under chavez which failed to sufficiently diversified economy away from oil and its saudi backed price instability so why is chavez a successor mykola my duro doing so well despite u.s. sanctions perhaps because of continual revolutionary ideas like these. given this we now find plenty of. them are there any more now than there not a third of africa early enough then if. you're not going to. get over yes

president glassman doro is announce a new oil backed crypto currency called the petro and some emerging economies way which will be another nail in the coffin of washington's federal reserve system donald trump's federal reserve chair person certainly doesn't know how to regulate it i think it's important to understand that this is a team in innovation it's taking place entirely outside the banking industry and to the best of my knowledge there is no intersection at all in any way between big korean and banks that the federal reserve has the ability to supervise and regulate janet yellen there who's term as u.s. fed chair and in less than eight weeks well we caught up with yet another new cryptocurrency recently the crypto ruble to be created by the russian federation which of course is allied to venezuela what is it well we asked for much of

russia's deputy minister of economic development was in london for the annual russian british business forum opposite the palace of westminster. russian federation state secretary it is the crypt of my department central bank over commented in the bells to about it where were it cautious in terms of i mean we as regulators in russia. very cautious about the currency and they can see consists of hers in terms of and then emitted terms of terrorism sponsoring and so on so forth so we're we're not against the technology that underlies this kind of new financial instruments but from the terms from the point of view of regulator we have to. develop the mechanisms and tools to regulate this currency and to make it more transparent to make it more controllable for for the governments in terms of and on the mean the meaning of but it would be

it's not that is he is now in every central bank of every country because nobody knows what to do with this group the currency is now i know that the russian government has said that if russia didn't do it your asian countries will do it in any case tell me about the importance of the brics economies the brics bank we don't we all we hear about in the two nation media arguably is still the i.m.f. and world bank. no breeze is some kind of a club in fact it's not the financial organisation but. every country which is in greeks to establish more clothes more say trust trust worth the. operation and communications between governments and between businesses of this country is we have many fields we have many. conferences where we meet with our friends from brazil china india and south africa we have many discussions

on economists on difference fields of cooperation is there room for a post briggs's britain in those would be good. yes of course a very them is always welcome and you do see progress being made at a faster pace now than say a year ago when the asian and international vesper bank was launched. progress is here but it's not that fast. we have this progress. in position to command because it's not my sphere of responsibility in russia to. monitor of the of the stuff sure when it but when it comes to british business doing deals with russian business is a lot of people ways comment on the fact the russian economy is so dependent on oil prices is that something that your department does a lot of working out to do what it was he and we're working on it for the past i

think age of reason and now economy is not that dependent now and then it was say five or seven years before. you know. we saw the this. huge drop in oil prices and now economy sustained and it was. so all this price shocks of course they very crucial for an economy be. cause we're still dependent on oil prices and gas prices but it's not that critical for usha now because we now have a machinery and work culture. services and all this new sectors of post-industrial as condiment city and so on so we see that. this give us more sustainability if we're talking about there are external shocks because there aren't sanctions on elegy because

a third of energy in the germany's energy needs are for whom are russia would you say the fact that drazen is very proud of that britain is voting for sanctions against ever sanction. sanctions. for those who is under the sanctions or the sanctions are hurting russia yes of course they were frightened deeply two years ago and still there are russia but russia is already adept at this kind of stuff so we developed many or all internal sectors that we previously aleck and that we imported much less in this critical sphere than the imported before so sanctions of course and they are always negative but then that was before and we see them doing business with russia given there is a sanctions against the russian federation to my mind they're not so afraid already we had two years previous two years when the foreign business

especially in the u.s. and the u.k. in and in several parts of europe they were very cautious about having any deals with russia over the russian companies even if they already have business in the russia and this standby position i see today and yesterday this ten by position is changing rapidly we see many businessman who is really. in position who wants to to make business with russia who want to expand their activity in russia they sound it's about torricelli maybe the bridge of the return of the game but when you're with the russian government has hacked a lid on the world how do you see. it on. british woman i'm not prepared at all so this kind of question but you know it's. of course we have our minister of. foreign affairs and they provide russian position on this topic

to my mind i'm not a diplomat i feel that this negative publicity of course. is not good for do in the real business and it's unfair if we're talking about russia to victimize russia with all this stuff i think it's just. negative p.r. but it's exaggerating a little bit we've called that this. wave of negative news about russia. it will slow down and we see already that it several signs that it's going to slow. of course it's about the business they feel nervous about making deals with the russian companies but i hope very much that this situation is not forever this year we already see. good news good good news i would say in this field who would you say to eventually business is thinking

of investing thinking oh they're going to be even harsher sanctions on russia which will affect our investment if we think of a new deal with a russian company i hope the won't be any more harsh sanctions but if they will be replaced i think that the russian economy has the potential to sustain in any case what future of thank you you thank. after the break as n.h.s. leaders gathered today in london to discuss privatisation of u.k. health care why are people dying early evidence of the developed nations here in tory led britain we are oxford university professor danny dorling on for mad linus we go in search of a white flag from the orange and the red carpet for the white helmets old a symbol going up in about to have going on the ground.

join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. welcome back when we did go through some of the week's papers are inevitably forgotten former liberal democrats let's go straight your first paper though the kind there in the online canary destitute canary says a shocking report on suicide attempts among benefit payments has surfaced but the media is silent ike i had to read this article twice after him because it says that over forty percent from now forty three percent of claimants and maybe almost fifty

percent in some cases have attempted suicide taking their own life who are on disability welfare bit and he is a forty seven percent of female that's right so you're talking about almost one in two people who are on disability benefit have tried to end their lives and you can't tell whether it's higher or lower good news it is higher that was three years ago those figures so it could be even more now but whether it's thirty or forty or fifty percent this is a phenomenal proportion of people who are vulnerable now the government with its large jessa said oh this is a complex issue here the public work a bit insufficient the governor saying it's a very complex issue oh that's great and so they clearly understand it but this is at a time when we've seen incredible pressure on people who live on benefits not just those of disability issues but when you look at that kind of figure let's take a step back we're meant to be the fifth or sixth richest nation on earth and almost half the people in this category have tried to take their own lives i think that's more than complex i think it's scandalous well beatrice really has bigger things to

worry about like actually staying in power to go into patry on here while she herself is a wounded animal and patchin says this will the do you finally surrender you are shadowed or the secretary for ten years is going or i know all of the. people very well and what theories i'm a has walked into is a perfect storm of contradictions on the one side she's trying to make mean whatever that means on the other side she get rid of the day you pay remember the democratic unionist party are the only thing that stands between her and minority government oblivion their propping up jeremy cauldron premiership well perhaps we'll come back to that in the future as the g.o.p. don't want but this is the double whammy here the do pay sort of depend on three's a made for their power and they say so quite clearly they themselves are a wilson who's one of the more outspoken on this earth and he says well we have a lot of power in house of commons he's dead right on the other hand if they

exercise that power then the very government through which they get that off already could go now what's all this about it's the thorny issue of the land border which some people don't even realize exists between the united kingdom and the european union that's between the north of ireland and the south what are we going to get here all kinds of interesting words being used is there going to be some kind of regulates free comb virgins what does that mean for the north of ireland they say it's a muddling of language but in rigid seymour's piece here it's interesting saying the d.v.d. they come from working class voters and roots they will not negotiate be machiavellian about this when it comes to their own constituency being threatened and the idea of a united ireland on the united ireland you're absolutely right there's nothing that they can even suggest or hint out without losing massive supporters or do you pay you're also right that pretty much every political party in northern ireland is socialist leaning two thirds of the economy just short of that is state funding so on that they united on you know united ireland they couldn't be more divided and

this is an issue which is going to run and run because it's not a tall clear to me how to resume a square as this one and they don't want to have a border which is the irish sea because the d.p. would consider that to be defeat they go she asians do today bomb body a decision being employed in northern. and next a week wood from the bone parliament as it's known to great story we've done four point six billion pounds worth of arms sales according to latest figures it's not really a funny story that's because of this yes the memo the middle east monitor says you haven't salo six iran has to mediate the dispute with this story is published online just minutes before the reporting of the death of the longtime auto carette supported by the west and that's what makes it so complex is to make it simpler a little bit simpler there's been a lot of internal fighting on the anti saudi arabia side remember saudi arabia's

been bombarding yemen for quite a long time here for political interest they want to reinstate their person at the top sally was against that but it looks like he was trying to bring his side together there's been a falling out which we have got time to go into the details of now and being in his death now this is a very unstable position they'll be militants they'll be moderates in here but there's also risk this will weaken the people fighting saudi arabia it's so difficult to understand i think everyone just says at the moment that will certainly britain will earn lots of money out of the deaths because it was earlier a bit does know committer another onslaught on civilians according to aid agencies but but even if that's right it's very hard to get information in the u.k. let's go on to that actually because i mean you must i mean you've been talking about this when your radio shows and we talk about here are going undercover longer it's going to twenty first century and this ties into the previous story as well a twenty first century wire says what to expect from b.b.c.

panorama and guardian's whitewash of u.k. government funding terrorists in syria so while all that's going on in yemen and we've got involvement there we are also involved in helping militants who i suppose the british government hopes will overthrow assad. in syria still even after the astana dogs the geneva talks finally the b.b.c. would have long denied it and they continue to use pictures from the white helmets and so over finally a panorama program in water that is no watches as we had times about what's the point to an extent because there's a whole list of things they didn't mention not they didn't mention the white helmets involvement with militants either they think that the public don't understand it or it's just not palatable either way well ten out of ten for beginning to talk about it two out of ten for the depth with which you did it and i should say also i did see the program at least the former chair of the british foreign affairs select committee speaking very well about it always in the former

chair of the foreign affairs and i wonder why i wonder why often let me go back thank you. well the latest official figures show excess winter deaths in england and wales have jumped by forty percent that's thirty four thousand dying in the last winter quarter of mainly the elderly but what exactly are tens of thousands of people dying could it be post twenty zero eight crashing your liberal austerity policies carried out since theresa may entered government with the u.k. falling behind many developed nations for life expectancy i'm now joined by one of the world's greatest geographers oxford university's holford mackinder professor of geography professor danny dorling he's also a visiting professor at goldsmiths the university of london and a visiting professor at university of bristol his latest book do we need economic inequality is out now in paperback daddy welcome back to going underground i know that there may be a flu epidemic on the way in britain who knows but let's take us back when it comes to life expectancy tell me about the great old days of the mid nineteenth century

when life expectancy improved in britain. and you have to go back to the nineteenth century to find periods where life expectancy was actually only going up slowly the life expectancy eighteen ninety you're looking at forty two years for a man about forty five. yes for women and for man onward to become to my seat most of the eight hundred ninety eight it was at the beginning of the last century rose in one thousand twenty thousand nine hundred thirty s. lights a year every three or four years at various times and it did this constantly constantly even for the second world war even for us now it's you know nine hundred fifty s. it was actually quite rapidly the world even with the massive smoking and yes yet despite smoking the improvements in public health the improvements in medical knowledge improves the standard of living. meant that we actually saw life exposed to going up every single decades since eighteen ninety one it went up faster for me in first because it was man he started smoking after the first world war but then

when the man men began to give up smoking in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight in large numbers the gap between men and women which used all the time it was improving as an incredible rate what about the hardline one nine hundred seventy s. when trade unions which of the four even landed. faster than one hundred fifty thousand sixty's the one nine hundred seventy s. a much maligned decade in the night in seventy eight for the first time for a long time the city of sheffield actually had better life expectancy than the national average the north and seventy's were very good decade for most people. ok so let's take us to today david cameron forms is gone damn go elation in twenty ten what happens then and it was razor may as well secretary what happens then we don't begin to notice until twenty twelve was when we first noticed we began to see mortality actually rising first of all only for very elderly women women aged over eighty began to lose a few years of life on average by twenty fifteen and spread

a bit to wider groups by twenty forty you're looking at men and women by twenty fifty and we had quite a lot of excess that is more than you normally expect and now now when we look back at twenty time we can see that life expectancy has hardly changed at all between twenty ten and now whereas in every other country in europe it has this is quite outside those b.m.j. figures about austerity you're just looking at these life expectancy statistics this is just from the office of national statistics the office of national statistics produced what were called the two thousand and fourteen base projections for the future and in october just a few weeks ago this year they produced a two thousand and sixteen base these are updated and the projections actually say that by about twenty forty one men and women will be living almost a year less than was predicted two years earlier and the projections allow you to work out if the year how many more people the o.e.m.'s say have who died or expect

to die in a future if the principle projection is now followed now i know you've written or speculated on a correlation with the fact you mentioned twenty twelve twenty twelve was the health and social care act now implemented by jeremy hunt the disruption at that at coles is one of the reasons that there were many meetings but if you want to. austerity inequality so that that was not good for the health service it didn't make it more efficient but also systematic underfunding when not increasing the funding of the health service as much as we knew the. if you aging the population and we're spending far less by hate on our house that they spend in france germany is on but more importantly than that the cuts the social care fund leave elderly people you know numbers of cuts and visits to people who are elderly and frail is empty and frail first of all sort of the big increase in mortality but there are other cuts because the meals on wheels services customer will service it's the home of austerity is it it changes so much about life in your country it makes life

worse and the people you actually suffer the most are those who are bad we need a very frail towards the end of life we're talking about a very singular reaction to the twenty eight crash and we're really talking about tens of thousands of people effectively being killed since twenty ten let alone the forty thousand a year from air pollution according to. this is that by earlier than you would expect now most of these people so far have been very elderly people amongst the numbers have been about two thousand young men and one thousand relatively young women but if you look at you know a net projections of principle protection going full it the additional deaths which are about a million up to twenty fifties eighty percent of those additional premature deaths are people kone eighteen forty and sixty so as you get older if they do not change if we're still living under this kind of regime of this kind of quality of social care and the funding of our health service and basic this regard for

people around us then we can all expect to live harder lives and end those lives and we thought was going to be the case just two years ago and as you said from your reading of the official statistics the treasury is almost already priced in the early deaths thus showing that the budget of the united kingdom is doing better than it might have been thanks to people dying oh yes you have that but it was holes where he has put these in is now the official projection to britain pension funds have found out that they produce their liabilities by three hundred and ten billion. sounds because of their own estimates of the effects of this. thing actually in the financial times it was almost celebrated as look we're solvent that but it's awfully nice and the problem is that as this kind of news is drip count over the years it was the ninth completely in two thousand and twelve thirteen and then going to be should began to go very quiet in fourteen or fifteen sixteen but as we slowly become to realize that this is not quite as really happened i mean is

that we've become used to it maybe that's why it's so bad because we're such apply a population that we are willing to accept the most important thing in life our health being damaged by how our government behaves ok well just finally aside from so the rating the deaths that make the british public accounts do better you know one of the world's greatest experts on housing surely was celebrating the extra forty four billion pounds that the government as announced for building three hundred thousand new homes a year. they've announced this kind of thing many many times over and there comes a point. just lisa's trust in the announcements. if they had wanted to do something they would have actually done it by now what they mainly do in the change in stamp duty as well as one example of this is they work to try to keep house prices as high as possible and they do that because they believe that the most economically successful city in the world is the most expensive city in the world which is london and the cost of housing part of the actual economic

success until they get that mindset and so they can realise that what matters is how well people are. living how happy they're living i actually say why are you not addressing the things that we matter in your budget no doubt the next tory m.p.'s on this show will will dare to disagree with you president only thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday it was a journalist but there's a belief following her recent return from syria if tourism is government will ever stop funding groups which supported the destruction of new york's twin towers. on nine eleven till then keep it up five social media with you on saturday thirty years to the day of the beginning of the best into father against the illegal u.k. backed israeli occupation of palestine including the disputed city of jerusalem where in the past twenty four hours donald trump it signaled his intention to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv. to

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