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the president's body wrapped in a blanket being mounted onto a pickup truck there is some very grim resemblance to the killing of moammar gadhafi six years ago and i was kind of surprised. mr saleh was a controversial figure for sure but i was very surprised by the lack of sympathy in the arab or more broadly of regional media. when it comes to his faith is that faith is that the new political norm in the middle i certainly hope the leadership in the area would move in the direction of responding to the needs and requirements of the population so that they do not face this grim fate at the end of the life the killing of saleh came shortly after he pulled out of his tactical alliance with the who are these and signaled their willingness to negotiate with a salad a lot coalition shifting his alliance once again as he did many times throughout his very long for all. i think what i'm hearing from you is the rick rat about his
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faith but though what do you think about his change of political allegiance well unfortunately saudi arabia and the coalition that it has built has been basically destroying yemen killing yemeni civilians no it's a common international. so do not refrain from even killing babies. you know the. indiscriminate bombardment of civilian areas in yemen for the past thirty months and it's been a basically an endless campaign very down to any success and without any achievement other than huge number of human law that has been lost or main so trying to. forget. in
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this very grim reality very catastrophic reality and. not respond to the will of the yemeni people is certainly not something that should be welcomed well nobody is trying to forget about those ground reality but in his final days former president saleh did try to call for reconciliation he called for you know the increase humanitarian access he talked for a dialogue did you invest any trust in the in this call we certainly want. those hopes to be realized we certainly want to see and end to the conflict in yemen. but does and that would require some sort of drug and some sort of a political settlement but it because at the same time there's also it's be ready for that i believe what has prevented an end to the conflict in yemen has been the
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reluctance of saudi arabia to engage in anything other than a military campaign i believe once they are ready and once everybody else is ready to engage in in an attempt to facilitate and in through yemeni died because we cannot from the outside impose a solution on the yemeni people we should only facilitate a solution by the yemeni people and iran for its part is prepared to do whatever it can to facilitate such a political solution to end this nightmare to say you're letting me perfectly answer my next question because any power of leverage in the middle is the north africa is this proxy politics and i hope you would agree that neither iran nor russia for that matter are exceptions. it is widely believed that iraq has certain degree of influence on the hoody rebels do you think that influence whatever it may be compels your country. to exerting some sort of. restraining
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a fact on the rebels i think everybody should use whatever influence that they have in whatever place in yemen in syria in order to end violence and bring about a political solution at the same time nobody from outside could impose a political solution what we need to do is to act in a concerted way all of us i mean iran is not engaged in bombing game and there are countries whose air force are dropping bombs on the people of yemen basically on a routine basis on army but that i can see on a daily basis but at least on a routine basis so i think they don't need influence they can't simply decide to stop bombing yemen and we would certainly use our influence to
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encourage a political solution as you said iran is not involved in bombing am going to but i'm sure you've heard the saudis particularly your saudi counterpart and i said you bear accuse iran of supplying ballistic missiles to the who they are rebels i know that iran called those charges baseless and unfounded but you have one of the most capable intelligence services in the region do you have any idea of whether the who these claims that they have that kind of weaponry at accurate and if saw who might have provided those missiles as well as the expertise to use that well what we have heard from our intelligence is that the who tease the yemenis is not just a who sees any army which received a lot of bourbons from many countries during the presidency of late president of the last fall including from russia. have the capability to develop those to modify those to increase i chris you arrange it. i simply
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do not need to receive them from iran and we have made it very clear that we do not provide them with that you made suffer a several references to saudi saudi policy is that in the region and i hope you won't be offended when i say this but when i listen to your your saudi colleague here often make pretty similar points you know where they once were trying to make bridges they are the ones who are burning them we are open for dialogue but there how bound on the military solution or expansion. how what could possibly cause for these very thick stack of almost identical neutral hydrogen is action we are not the ones who supports this for the most saying we are not the ones who support the taliban you remember only three countries recognize taliban saudi arabia was one of them we are not the ones who supported isis. you know you see that now their lies are exposing what they did to support these terrorist
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extremist organizations be not the ones who are funding extremism throughout the globe we are not the ones who are sending b. of the terrorist bombers whether it's in the in russia in the us they have somehow been affected by the ideology that they promote and finance so actions speak much louder than words recent research just that a peace plan for syria. so duty be insisted on a military solution they said with the help of god we either removed the shuttle politically or militarily we said from the very beginning this syria does not have a military solution we said from the very beginning that yemen requires a political settlement not a military system and we're not bombing given they are so i think actions speak much louder than the minister i'm sure you just in your professional capacity you
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have to listen to what your counterparts or adversaries are saying and what if we se that he would say yeah i'm going for hezbollah you know they they would make the same claims of supporting various militia groups and providing weapons and you know what we in russia too far away to take sides even though i'm sure moscow appreciates you know has by those not bombing anybody as well as a political organization in the been on we are not the ones again to invite the prime minister of the country to our country and how him resign we try to use our friends our influence in the region in order to who. defeat extremists. in order to work together for a political solution that's what we're doing in syria with russia and turkey we were not always on the same side i mean iran and russia are not always on the same
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soil there's no i'm not on the same side on a number of original purchase if i may ask you specifically about syria because i agree with you that saudi arabia at least initially is to have a very recalcitrant position but. most more recently i've heard the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov praise riyadh for its efforts and of bringing together the militarized syrian opposition as sort of prodding down towards the geneva process how do you see the saudis changing tack at least when it comes to syria but it's regrettable that the only decided to start the political process but that when the defeated when there are limited and they have already. been they were defeated militarily on the ground in syria and that has caused huge number of like huge number of lawyers have been lost we suggested this peace plan over fifteen months ago. as you said
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better late than never now let us see how much they hope they will facilitate the sochi process as you know the leaders of iran russia and turkey gathered in sochi in order to support a political process i hope others will join now and criticize the saudis for wanting nothing less than one hundred percent they say or some attitude and let me ask you. in that way and to what extent can the saudis calm down the accommodation of that interest in syria and what do you think the interest in syria are at the current stage i think everybody needs to define it their interest in syria in terms of a better future for the syrians political inclusiveness in syria that all syrians would participate in determining their future view down to foreign intervention based only but only help whatever you want to call it we are supposed as i said to
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facilitate not to dictate i think the minute. we all understand that only the bill of the people can be stand the test of time then we will be moving in the right direction i believe all of us in the region have a common destiny i think iran and saudi arabia both live in a very difficult neighborhood we cannot gain security idea expensive in security of one another iran and saudi arabia will suffer from the same extremist groups we will be the targets of the same extremist groups i think the sooner on saudi neighbors realize that this need that they produce all the stakes that they have produced in the past forty years be it said almost sane be it the taliban be it isis have ended up turning against them it's now time for them to
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start producing flowers producing developments producing prosperity rather than producing terrorist organisations and dictators and i say it's a very difficult emotional question for us the russians as well because real quiet use to this fighting dynamic and failing ourselves as if we have being unfairly accused of terrorist that with. some time somebody needs to make the first step and do a little bit more than he or she is asking of the adversary is iran ready to go a little bit further than what it wants the saudi arabia to do you know responded positively to every offer for go. every single offer that was made to us by anybody including by the g.c.c. when g.c.c. so suggested at that time qatar was the. chair of the g.c.c.
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suggested a dialogue between iran and g.c.c. we immediately responded positively when kuwait on behalf of the g.c.c. suggested a dialogue between iran and the g.c.c. i president went to kuwait and had a direct discussion with meat of kuwait and responded positively but check who has rejected all these efforts so we have taken all the steps but as you said you take one step you expect others to take reciprocal steps and unfortunately every step that we have taken has been rebuffed instead of reciprocated by our saudi neighbors well minister we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments and. join
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me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. gun some is not so is not i can put in place is not a good country. because it is the minister there bunch. of scum. as you give as good at that as a disco that is. the title of the co-chair. of the cult of flesh with the smears of secular suggests calling in just for the embrace from a fellow muslim of oneself to be a little. mostly helpless fossil. play almost anything for the members of the base the not very kind of raw data john fed on based on our must who does not mean
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welcome back to worlds apart a bit around point minister is about thirty. minutes to let me ask you about the united states because the united states is a sort of favorite adversary of both for iran and for russia. foreign minister lavrov have a very similar way of philosophizing about international affairs i think you have yourself an overlap but there is a major difference in the way the russian and the iranian leadership approach both the current and the former american administration because the iranians seem to be appreciative respectful of the obama administration but show quite a bit of contempt for the current administration the russians on the contrary don't hide their dislike of the about my team but they are very restrained when it comes to criticizing iran while he is obviously crude what do you make of this kid go off truly be equal opportunity criticizes. be criticized the way that the obama administration does we did on as we criticize the way that the
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trumpet ministry question to you by the difference the difference was that during the obama administration we had the nuclear negotiations and we worked out what seems to be a historic agreement and russia played an extremely important role in the process and we appreciate the road that groeschel played be appreciate the role that europe play yeah but the united states also played a role which was not as positive as show you know but more positive than we expected from the united states historically now the united states is resuming the animosity the hostility that they have exhibited. a returning to the old rhetoric to the old ways not president obama and then abandon them unfortunately. he couldn't ministration does not use any accepted international. behavior in order to deal with iran. what you see from iran is
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a reaction to this mr you made the iranian physician pretty clear and i think it is not just iran that finds the actions or statements of the current american president quite disagreeable but i'm particularly that's why i'm particularly interested in what you make of the russian treatment of don't trust because i do think it's actually very very patient at least when you combine into account of how russia usually reacts to the united states how do you read it what do you think is most to pursuing in this sort of keep go off approach to donald trump well i believe russia has a prudent foreign policy and is pursuing its interests and i usually do not think gauge interfering in the internal or external affairs of other countries would agree that their strategic considerations also impact your position because everything in the world especially in the middle is this closely interlinked do you think there is any benefit iran to russia trying to play these sort of i'm good
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cop with i don't mean it in a way of good call but being more positive with trumpet than let's say some of the others. again we focus on our own relations with russia our own cooperation with russia on regional issues but in syria for instance iran and russia work together and russia has some as they say the conflicting good enjoyments with the united states we speak the decisions that our russian colleagues make. in terms of their bilateral relations with the united states or in terms of the conflicting with the united states because sometimes in this peeved those may be necessary. i believe nobody accepts the fact that the united states continues to be in syria in spite to be of the sovereign government of syria and i think that we was shared by us as well what can i ask you
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specifically about the nuclear deal you do strongly dislike the transposition on the nuclear deal but i wonder if. there's still enough incentive for iran given the your current preparation i cannot make reparation over the europeans with the japanese with the koreans to. uphold this deal regardless of the american compliance with it because mr truong may or may not pull out of the deal but as i'm sure you know even there on that mr show that the white house has its informal ways of influencing the willingness of companies to deal with iran is it worth it for your country you stick to that deal regardless of what the americans do. it on has in fact on its side of the bargain we have fulfilled our promises and we have shown that we are a trustworthy international partner when we negotiate we stick to our words
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unfortunately as you pointed out rightly so the implementation by the united states has been locked lost in at best the attempts by certain us because to prevent economic relations with iran continued both during the obama administration lest publicly so and during the trumpet ministrations been more public basically stated policy of a president trump and his or his administration what is it on is concerned we assess the situation to see where the continuation of. observance of of the deed would serve our national security interests and when it comes when it comes to the point that the benefits of continuing duty. to. would no longer exist when it comes to the point that iran is not receiving the evidence that they're promised in the deal then we will decide according. to his now clear that
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the american regional allies intent on either renegotiating my face reinterpreting the deal i'm talking about israel and saudi arabia and i wonder what do you think is the best diplomatic tactic in terms of safeguarding the deal because you have the europeans the russians the chinese on your side what do you think is the best approach try to appeal to trying directly or try to war for through saudi arabia and israel who also have the interest outside the united states and europe and russia has always tried to prevent a deal. you're a member. the statements that been made the lobbying effort that was done. the pressures that's been exerted in the course of the negotiation of the then they've attempted to prevent the deal from passing. in the legislature in the u.s. and saudi arabia unfortunately and israel because of its nature. seek
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conflict. hostility and crisis as a means of survival so i understand you correctly that you believe that it is easier to actually persuade trying to stick with the deal rather than trying to persuade israel and saudi arabia that the deal was the. this is an international agreement if they just wanted to live by a good international committee it is in their own interest if they decided to do it internationally first of all it will show to the world that they're not reliable that nobody can deal with negotiate with or reach an agreement with any u.s. president because the next president may come basically late that is not a good signal that they would be sending to the international community but if they decide to send a signal the new dawn has its options and options are not limited and i don't think those options would be very pleasant for the kids and if i may ask you one last
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question israel and saudi arabia do not have formal diplomatic relations both precisely because of the palestinian issue but it's clear. that diplomatic contacts let me put it that way have intensified significantly. just in his latest address benjamin netanyahu quoted the saudi crown prince as belligerent statement on iran as you would quote your close ally so i think that's a very telling sign how much time do you give them before him sort of coming out and into the open of that close relationship and do you think that lation should be still be how bad by the logic of the resolution to the palestinian question. i do not believe that's new that has been going on for a long time is a bit more public but the arab street has seen so much suffering of the palestinian people. the sock the palestinians the rights of the palestinians are trampled upon
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on on a routine basis the fact that every neighborhood has been invaded aggressed upon by israel and basically with impunity over the past seventy years these are all facts that make it very difficult for saudi arabia to openly disclose its secret relations with israel that has existed for a very very he just said that it's become something that you would expect that the rights of the palestinians i being trampled upon for daycares doesn't that mean that the arab street no longer cares about the north the arab street does kid and his boy instead of addressing the root cause that's already. leading to the type of extremism that we see in the other board so david.
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is friends of trying to divert attention but divert think attention would not reduce the cause will not address the cause i think the sooner i saw the neighbors realize what the threat is and address that threat instead of trying to divert the attention from the threat this one every move in the right direction you know what minister this is all we have time for i really appreciate your being with us and tell us please share your comments and outweigh their facebook and pages and i hope to see you again same place same time here i don't want a partner. they
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call me a useful idiot i'm useful idiot you called me a useful idiot a useful idiot useful idiots go expressing my opinions on t.v. there's two things miss doing it behind his report is a simple strategy we attack persons instead of talking about the arc of what's next why stop me from getting this close to the white house i'm with a group code pink why not ban the color pink one hour stretch beyond the rock i should be sent to the town because i'm to try to break me on the wheel but out with a long time of this sort of nonsense you don't scare me and i'll continue to voice my opinion i'll continue to speak out i'm in good company i'm in good company you're going to be you want to do this because we're freezing cold.
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elliston is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos i'm in bill fails to miss it if you like a movie this isn't my cup of tea is going up no phil saviano maybe. no shot about. the only palestinians who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i don't think some of those who in the world over vision not only could give us. and the earth to sell off your knowledge to how to destroy any of the muscle that you had i don't want you to call tedium a doesn't seem to do more. don't piss off.
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look. at it or mosque protests erupted across the middle east following the us president's controversial decision to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel . also coming up this hour the russian military say islamic state has suffered a total defeat in syria after the remaining territories held by the terror group are liberated. british soldiers may face trial at the international criminal court its chief prosecutor says there is reason to believe that war crimes were committed against captives in iraq.
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