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real that is what. lies at the bottom. of. what they like you are going to. with. the. limits of. the world the world of what's in the hearts arguments i rolled with the top of the wall as. if i should never ever ever be shocked by anything that comes out of the administration when it comes to the intelligence community or any administration the intelligence community as we've seen over the years we're going to i got to ask you how bad has things gotten when members of trump's circle are now advising him to consider the alternate version of the social intelligence agency a privatized version of the central intelligence agency to counter the actions of white clinton supporters or deep state members in the cia that are going against
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him. you know what every president has had to deal since there was a deep state or an intelligence community and that they started putting and you know barriers between each of these so that there was checks and balances and the president just didn't use everything as as his own up until this point his own sort of candy store it's it's almost as if they have no concept of what's actually going on in their departments when you're literally sitting there having an entire administration go its name that they're being mean to the president not pushing an agenda guess what that's literally not what they're supposed to do they are supposed to push back on things that you do and make sure that they're covered they aren't supposed to just be there as a as a candy store for you to go in and be like here just do all these and assassinate these people and do this but with her privately you know great then drunken very far out of his own pocket and then he can deal with the legal ramifications but according to sources one of the proposals would involve hiring the am going to work
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with. which is. erik prince is new for this new era prince thing they want to hire them for millions of dollars to set up a large intelligence network and run counter terrorist propaganda. i think that means are innovative videos for the internet. so that's exactly who it's this is a private company whose officials and employees are full of veterans of u.s. covert wars in the reagan area. contra affair and recent actions in iraq and get these are not nice people these are people who quite literally have at least everything on one occasion has ended up in court on on the possibility of war crimes or war crimes adjacent. and who are some of these well i don't
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know who might know one of the items that he bought on to kind of help pitch this apparently is all over north from raleigh from the iran contra scandal you know he . according to scale and then he was brought in to kind of lend credibility to help sell the efforts to the white house i think as you said is going to because this is ari nor odio no longer represents the last it's so bizarre because north raleigh north actually represents the last time a president used like a shadowy group from the cia you know the regular administration basically used north to set up. the secret unit to wage a covert war against nicaragua back in the eighty's despite congress saying that the administration could not spend any money on military intervention in the in the civil war of the central america in the one nine hundred dollar was there was the iran contra run it's selling arms to help out the contras and like all of that almost was thrown in jail for it got pardoned later on i believe you know you see
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this over and over again now but what's interesting is everybody is denying this everyone's all across the board americans everybody denying yeah erik prince actually sighed and in e-mails to the intercept he said that out of quickly you stated that i have zero to do with any after such effort and saying that i did do would be categorically false knowingly publishing false information exposed as you just have a legal action the only effort i've quite publicly pitched is an alternative to afghanistan oh gosh you wouldn't believe all the north american friends and you know the worst thing is. you know they're also going to cover too because national security council spokesman michael ensign told c.n.n. told c.n.n. that the white house does not and would not support such a proposal and could find no evidence that this ever came to their attention of anyone at the n.s.c. or white house at all so we will just have to hold our breath and find out if this is going to actually be something true. or this is all just you know the rumors of the capitol hill in the white house these days. after tabulating the online votes
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of their reader poll time magazine finally announced its person of the year however this year it was neither a person nor a winner of the reader's poll that took home the honor the honor went to the me to movement the cover and put it ashley judd taylor swift susan fowler who exposed the sexism and over a woman using a pseudonym with a magazine says is quote a woman from mexico who works picking strawberries and adamah it with a campaign lobbyist for visa credit cards and the organizer of a campaign in california to expose sexual harassment in politics and i almost forgot the mysterious cropped elbow on the cover it's not a mistake it's a provocative artistic choice see it's supposed to symbolize the millions of women who suffer from sexual harassment and assault in silence which is a great idea but there's nothing really provocative about the fact that the every woman on the cover in that elbow is white whereas by the way rose mcgowan who is
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abuser sent spies after her asia argento who had to flee the country after speaking out were in the world is gretchen coral sin who took down roger ailes they didn't even include the woman who created the me too movement a decade ago to radha burke missing is lupita the only woman syracuse r.v. weinstein and who took some of the most vile abuse from his team for it where is e.s.p.n. firebrand or actual and feminist warrior leslie jones. though really i wonder how they managed to sidestep the winner of the reader's poll that's right the new what feminist male of the middle east crown prince of saudi arabia. yeah the guy allows women to drive allows them to drive and he gets twenty six percent of the vote really time magazine didn't even list him in the runners up who
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were like donald trump. robert muller kimbra xion hoon calling capper dick and paddy jenkins it's as if the reader poll never really happened or maybe as often is the case the crown prince will get his cover in the middle east and women around the world will again see a glaring example of the hypocrisy of gender a man who bombed and starved a nation gets praised while a woman of color who spent a decade fighting for all of us to be able to speak out is relegated to the sidelines and that ladies and gentlemen is why we cannot rely on the mainstream media whether private or publicly funded to protect us to speak truth to us and to hold our abusers accountable and that over the walls is a great point because it goes back to that big problem any time you have a great political movement especially in the west in the home of capitalism cover
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was and takes it over corporatism takes it over and says hey we're going to put on the people that can sell the magazine cover the best you know put those folks in there not taking away from those who put those folks on there rather than who should be right. in this situation not relegated to the inside pages of the website . but who decides to make the decision that of all the people to put on the cover you put. three rich what three rich white women and. you know a lobbyist and a white elbow and the i mean i'm sorry but taylor swift does not get to be on not shouldn't be on the cover it's not that she didn't do anything for women this year but rose mcgowan the woman who star you know creative work these are people who should have been front and center why a lobbyist why this person and a white elbow seems ok and i cannot fathom how anyone would believe the suddenly believe that we're like hey great the oh the prince of saudi arabia you just
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totally turned things around yeah that was one of the big things to the see him get this like lopsided are a lot of those were militant who are said beating out white cap or nick and everybody you know they are going to do one or two or five percent he gets like four times more than anybody else i'll say it do i smell box i mean what. everyone talks about but it's all the time i'm smell bugs and oh yeah i just mean it's weird for them to have announced it the way they did but he did win the reader's poll and then just i mean i'll say it i'm happy the two movement the person of the year was theirs and i'm not and like i said already getting away from the good work that the people are going to do no one's trying to say that no no no you know but there again this is that thing of like there's there's better people in the movement that maybe aren't as popular or as you know politically and culturally friendly you know . there's there's there's that out right there and here's my thing about you know the prince. i mean there first of all the person of the year for time
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over the past in the past has been people it's like they never put controversial people you know adolf hitler was their person of the here in one nine hundred thirty eight stalin in thirty nine and forty two back to go and. khrushchev of the seven and the ayatollah khomeini in one nine hundred seventy nine so it's not always like could you know people are people who think but this is a person who is not the prince is not prince is not a moderate his not awoke feminists he's just reportedly taking a billion dollar bribe to let corruptors go free so i don't know how i should feel that the voters picked on the women. yeah it is shocking it is pretty girls i. think it's a very odd behavior every year will get them all right yes that's true maybe they can do better. let's listen oh say one thing for sure and since it's a professor of history at yale had written
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a really great washington post piece and she made this point about why this whole thing why you know the princes it is a little odd even in those western governments and media outlets sing his praises the young crown prince is viewed domestically as in comp as an incompetent and corrupt ruler who hides behind liberalism tolerance and anti-corruption rhetoric so . all right away now as we go to break card watchers time for good to let us know what you think of a topic for governor i'm facebook and twitter see our poll show started dot com coming up with welcome waxman and girls back to the bowling ball just to discuss prism battle for this declaration drew some of the capital of israel in the real collusion on capitol hill stay tuned.
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much. more. in a move that some political shock waves across the foreign policy world present donald trump announced in a white house ceremony that the u.s. government will finally abide by the jerusalem embassy act of one thousand nine hundred five by moving the u.s. embassy in israel from tel aviv to jerusalem and officially recognizing the israeli government's claim to the historic city as its capital but filling a major campaign promise long sought by both the religious right as well as the neo conservative wing of the republican party the announcement sparked an immediate wave of condemnations from many world leaders ranging from majority muslim nations western europe and even pope francis himself but what does this decision really mean for the people of israel and palestine and how will it affect the future of
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the middle east to answer these questions and more we're joined first today by max blumenthal senior writer at alter net welcome ochs good to be with you guys the floods are back so this unprecedented amazing day we're seeing. snow i will give there are levels of just you know present trends decisions and canals with a lot of time with but get the most media coverage like we saw today wall to wall often wind up being the impact for impressive i'm well i want you where you are does this particular movie stand out to you in its significance will this have impact will this be a precedent or will this actually kind of live up to a lot about hype that they're given i mean this is going to have massive impact on the ground throughout the region you know trump is poured fuel on the simmering flames and you know what he has done first of all we have to recognize is really the culmination of decades of bipartisan pandering to the pro israel lobby and israeli meddling to subvert american foreign policy you can go back to one thousand
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nine hundred two two when bill clinton on the campaign trail attacked george h.w. bush for refusing to declare israel the cat to do declare jerusalem as israel's capital then in one thousand nine hundred five both houses both chambers of congress passed the jerusalem embassy act a man being the and the c.b. relocated from tel aviv to jerusalem and bill clinton refuses to sign it because he recognizes the kind of impact it would have on the ground barack obama in two thousand and eight declares it a pack in an active just shameless pandering that dirt jerusalem was the undivided capital of israel and so what trump has done is use this bipartisan pandering as precedent for an actual decision which will have serious ramifications the first of which is to discount and finally discredit the united states as a broker in the middle east process the peace process the second ramification is to take the corpse of the dead peace process to more bun peace process and put it in
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the incinerator once and for all which means the consolidation of recognition that israel is operating a singular unit. very apartheid regime from the river to the sea and this will have implications across the globe. one of the things that we were just talking about saudi arabia and part of the the thoughts around this are that some sort of deal might have been made between jared kush and the trumpet ministration and saudi arabia about this before it's happening. and i don't think any of them will care two bits about what actually happens to people on the ground so i'm wondering since you have been on the ground you spent time there what are the immediate effects to the people well first of all you're you're right that there has there is a very special relationship between jarryd been some on and the saudi crown prince mohammed cushion are there basically interchangeable figures came along with
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benjamin netanyahu you have this axis from trump to riyadh to jerusalem and you've seen the israelis and saudis moving closer than ever before so what they're trying to do with this move is to basically eliminate the palestinian national movement just push the palestinian people aside so they can join together on what really unites them which is this camp this belligerent bellicose campaign against iran this obsession with iran but first they have to take care of the palestinians on the ground you have to recognize there are three hundred thousand palestinians in east jerusalem thirty six percent of the population they only receive fifteen percent of the services their entire neighborhoods in jerusalem that receive no services while its residents pay taxes to the jerusalem municipality so this is a consolidation of apartheid but more disturbingly what it will do is send a message to jewish israelis and jewish settlers that is true islam is theirs
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palestinians do not belong there and it will intensify the kind of vigilante violence we've seen that can really heat things up on the ground i want to bring in waxman director of northeastern university middle east. i want to ask you with the move from you know recognizing mr druce limb to the capital of israel in regards to prime minister netanyahu your braced for this announcement as a victory for israel but but is the rest of israel's political world united on this you know will this be seen as a win that solidifies the political position at all or could it ultimately hurt it . well certainly there was a domestic consensus in israel out in favor of all recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital that is something really across the board and costs all the major political parties is over the exception of the joining our list there is support for but i don't think this is really going to do a whole lot to improve. his domestic situation he's facing
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multiple indictments concerning two action allegations he's. been waiting for some time on israel is the reason so he might get a very temporary domestic political boost from this but i think it's ultimately not going to really save his political fortunes in the long. interesting max let me ask you this even even as a lot of as we've seen a ton of political and religious leaders around the world condemning the decision we've also seen a lot of people in the israeli media are ripping up reporting that moral guy several governments privately are saying that they will move their embassies as well that they will go along with this what do you see this as a the first domino to drop or do you think that's what's going to happen that something is going to move all these embassies and why is that so i didn't like what what do you gain from doing well you know first of all we have to look at the domestic base that trump is appealing to here sheldon adelson one of his largest
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donors has demanded a move of the embassy steve bannon was that a judge roy moore rally in alabama where he said jerusalem is the capital and christian zionists and timers in the crowd who really represent trump's hard core base were you know cheering just getting really excited about that announcement so this is what it's about even though and i think doug pointed this out on twitter fifty three percent of americans actually oppose this move we hear verbal condemnations from the e.u. verbal condemnations from jordan pathetic milk mealy mouth statements from saudi arabia which could care less about the palace did. and you know whether or not they move their embassy to jerusalem what they are failing to do is impose any costs on israel any consequences for a move like this which does away with the peace process that these governments of claim to care about for so long it would require actually sanctioning israel imposing costs on people who do business in companies that do business with the
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settlements refusing to resupply israel militarily and none of these governments will do it so they're just paying lip service and then in that sense it's a it you know they're sort of complying dove let me ask you you know what do you feel is going to be you know coming off of what do you feel is going to be the ultimate impact in you know in your research in your studies you've done in the middle east and i mean israel what do you feel is going to be the ultimate impact on this long term well i think it's a knockout blow to the united states his credibility as a quote unquote honest broker the peace process and i think for some time people have been raising questions about whether the united states was really an effective mediator in the peace process and of course raising questions about whether that is even worth trying and it worthwhile trying to resurrect this peace process so i think this will only deepen a palestinian skepticism about the intentions of the trumpet ministration the it be
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that trumps peace initiative. peace initiative is likely to be dead on arrival if. palestinian president mahmoud abbas follows through with what he's talking about which is essentially something that many palestinians would hope just a not take this any longer taking what those palestinians come to be is really a waste of time and money why something that's undermines it interest so i think the peace process was already full intense it's dead but what if it was true that. we got about. two minutes left to get a minute from each of you if we can but let me ask you this you know what we've seen now all the accusations about you know collusion with russia and like all of the things going on there between the trump you know ministration here but when you look at like you know the movements that have made recently and what came light of what the michael. michael flynn accusations and all that what he pled to looks like
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there's more collusion between like saudi arabia and israel with the trump campaign as you mentioned earlier that max them with russia. you have today's announcement you know deep deep do you think and the news about you know. you know you mentioned the peace movement probably not going to work out but but do you feel there's more of a collusion on that side of things than. with russia. well i certainly behind the scenes the saudis have been involved in this type of would be very very surprised if the saudis weren't informed beforehand i think the saudi public reaction today is really just paying lip service. have been reports that after meeting with question of the saudis basically called into court at boston riyadh and essentially told what all the trumpet ministrations peace initiative would be and that had no choice but to accept those terms or they'd find another palestinian leader who would do so so i'm certainly i think there is a lot of. suspicion here that this may be the prevailing to some sort of u.s.
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saudi plan peace plan and a peace which may involve essentially trying to force the palestinians to give up any claim to jewish i think that would be completely unacceptable to the palestinians and to much of the international community but given the maverick behavior if you like of the saudi crown prince and his somewhat reckless foreign policy in the middle east this would be in keeping with lots of macs are pretty yeah i think that israel and saudi arabia have defined trumps policy towards middle the. at least in these policies that implications across the globe so of course these are the sources of real influence within the trumpet ministration but more broadly throughout washington and we've seen chuck schumer the senate minority leader the chief democrat in the congress say that he actually urged donald trump to make this announcement just charles schumer is you know heavily funded by the
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pro israel lobby so this goes this problem goes well beyond donald trump and beyond that it really highlights the importance of civil society initiatives like the boycott divestment and sanctions movement which really at this point is the only means to exert pressure on israel to roll back its seventy year campaign of apartheid against palestinians the peace process is over the united states as a broker is finished and we're now looking at a new chapter in the middle east you know. very much max but with all senior writer at ultimate thank you for coming five per cent of waxman director of northeastern university middle east center thank you so much for coming on the giving us your thoughts on this highly highly interesting subject all right everybody about is our show for you today number everyone in this world we are told we love to tell you all i love you i am a robot. watching those hawks in every great. they
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call me a useful idiot i mean you called me a useful idiot a useful idiot useful idiots go expressing my opinions on the first two sins of us doing it behind his record is the same strategy we attack persons instead of talking about the org what's next why stop me from getting this close to the white house i'm with a group code pink why not ban the color pink one hour stretch beyond the right i should be sent to the town of london because going to try to break me on the wheel i have put up with a long time of this sort of nonsense you don't scare me and i'll continue to voice my opinion i'll continue to speak out in good company i'm in good company you going with me you want to do this because real friends think.
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that's good for my survival guide look stacey just like all of the store simply. research. the sure it's not there you don't get it. oh heck no one says a repatriation scheme will get the rest to seventy years. till the seventy year kaiser report. elliston is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos him in-built it dismiss it you like you know. this isn't my complicity is going out to study hall maybe you know john. the only palestinians who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i don't think there's some of those
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who in the world under the old vision didn't know when you could do this. and that is all of your knowledge to how to display any of the muscle that you had i know if you continue muslims you know do more commitments also don't put result. as. this. sounds.
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the. parties headline news mass protests erupt across the middle east following president trumps decision to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel. a lot mark in the fight against islamic state the russian military says the terror group has now been routed from syria. and british soldiers could face trial at the international criminal court and its chief prosecutor says there's reason to believe the war crime. we're committed against captives in iraq. that live news twenty four seven this is r.t. enter national my name is called embracing four pm this thursday here in moscow first of the developing unrest in the middle east protests to being held across palestinian territory.

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