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high profile killing do you think that complicates the international effort both in the yemen and in syria unfortunately the events of the past few days have not helps this process and be hope. biddies on fortunate developments over the past four or five days we do unfortunate developments of the past thirty months and beyond everybody in yemen and all the neighboring countries would come to the realisation that we have to put this nightmare to an end and we need to get together and put a plan to end the conflict in yemen now if i may share a personal impression of it here because they have the video of the president's body wrapped in a blanket being mounted on to a pickup truck there is some very grim resemblance to the killing of moammar gadhafi six years ago and i was kind of surprised that mr saleh was a controversial figure for sure but i was very surprised by the lack of sympathy in the arab or more broadly
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a regional media. when it comes to his faith is that faith is that the new political norm in the middle i certainly hope the leadership in the earlier would move in the direction of responding to the needs and requirements of the population so that they do not face this grim fate at the end of the book if the killing of came shortly after he pulled out of his tactical alliance with the who are these and signaled their willingness to negotiate with a salad a lot coalition shifting his alliance once again as he did many times throughout his very long for all. i think what i'm hearing from you is the rick rat about his faith but though what do you think about his change of political allegiance well unfortunately saudi arabia. the coalition that it has built has been basically just . showing yemen killing yemeni civilians now it's
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a common international fact that the saudis have not refrain from even killing babies and over the knee in dead indiscriminate bombardment of civilian areas in yemen for the past thirty months and it's been a basically an endless campaign without any success and without any achievement other than huge number of human lawyers that has been lost or maimed so trying to. forget. this very grim reality very catastrophic reality and. not respond to the will of the yemeni people is certainly not something that should be welcomed well nobody is trying to forget about those ground reality but in his
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final days a former president saleh did try to call for reconciliation he called for you know the increase humanitarian access he talked for a dialogue did you invest any trust in the in this culture we certainly want. those hopes to be realized we certainly want to see and to the conflict in yemen. but that would require some sort of drug and some sort of a political settlement but it requires at the same time that also it's be ready for that i believe what has prevented an end to the conflict in yemen has been the reluctance of saudi arabia to engage in anything other than a military campaign i believe once you are ready and once everybody else is ready to engage in in an attempt to facilitate and in through your many died because we
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cannot from the outside impose a solution on the yemeni people we should only facilitate a solution by the yemeni people and iran for its part is prepared to do whatever it can to facilitate such a political solution to end this nightmare mr you're living with perfectly to my next question because any power about leverage in the middle is the north africa uses proxy politics and i hope you would agree that neither iran nor russia for that matter are exceptions. it is widely believed that iraq has certain degree of influence on the hoody rebels do you think that influence whatever it may be compels your country. to exerting some sort of. restraining a fact on the rebels i think everybody should use whatever influence that they have in whatever place in yemen in syria in order to and violence and bring about
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a political solution at the same time nobody from outside could impose a political solution what we need to do is to act in a concerted way all of us i mean iran is not engaged in bombing gehman there are countries whose air force are dropping bombs on the people of yemen basically on a routine basis on army but that i can see on a daily basis but at least on a routine basis so i think they don't need influence they can simply decide to stop bombing yemen and we would certainly use our influence to encourage a political solution as you said iran is not involved in bombing am going to but i'm sure you've heard the saudis particularly your saudi counterpart and they're said to bear i accuse iran of supplying ballistic missiles to rebels i know that iran called those charges baseless and unfounded but you have one of the most
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capable intelligence services in the region do you have any idea of whether the who these claims that they have that kind of weaponry at accurate and if saw who might have provided those missiles as well as the expertise to use that well what we have heard from our intelligence is that the who sees the yemenis is not just a who sees any army which received a lot of bourbons from many countries during the presidency of late president of the last charlie including from russia. have the capability to develop those to modify those to increase i chris you arrange it. i simply do not need to receive them from iran and we have made it very clear that we do not provide them with that you made suffer a several references to saudi saudi policies it in the region and i hope you won't be offended when i say this but when i listen to your your saudi colleague here
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often make pretty similar points you know where they once were trying to make bridges they are the ones who are burning them we are open for dialogue but there how bound on the military solution or expansion. how what could possibly cause for these very fakes that call for almost identical mutual irishness action we're not the ones who support this with almost saying we're not the ones who support the taliban you remember only three countries recognize taliban saudi arabia was one of them we're not the ones who supported isis. but you know you see that now their former allies are exposing what they did to support these terrorist extremist organizations be not the ones who are funding extremism throughout the globe we're not the ones who are sending three of the terrorist bombers whether it's in the in russia in the us they have somehow been affected by the
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ideology that they promote and finance so actions speak much louder than words recent research just that a peace plan for syria. so duty being sisters on a military solution they said with the help of god we either remove the shot at us politically or militarily we said from the very beginning this syria does not have a military solution we said from the very beginning that yemen requires a political settlement not a military system and we're not bombing given they are so i think actions speak much louder than the minister i'm sure you just in your professional capacity you have to listen to what your counterparts or adversaries are saying and what if we saw just that he would say yeah i'm in for hezbollah you know they would make the same claims of supporting various militia groups and providing weapons and you know what we in russia too far away to take sides even though i'm sure moscow
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appreciates you know his brother was not bombing anybody as well as a political organization in there been on we are not the ones again to invite the prime minister of the country to our country and have him resign we try to use our friends our influence in the region in order to who. defeat extremists. in order to work together for a political solution that's what we're doing in syria with russia and turkey we were not always on the same side i mean iran and russia are not always on the same soil there's no i'm not on the same side on a number of original purchase if i may ask specifically about syria because i agree with you that saudi arabia at least initially is to have a very recalcitrant position but. most more recently i've heard russian foreign minister sergei lavrov praise riyadh for its efforts in bringing together
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the militarized syrian opposition as sort of prodding down towards the geneva process how do you see the saudis changing tack at least when it comes to syria but it's regrettable that the only the saudi the two strands of political process that when there's been defeated in there are limited and they have already. been they were defeated militarily on the ground in syria and that has caused huge number of like hugh number of lawyers have been lost we suggested this peace plan over fifteen months ago. as you said better late than never now let us see how much they hope they will facilitate the sochi process as you know the leaders of iran russia and turkey gathered in sochi in order to support
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a political process i hope others will join now and criticize the saudis for wanting nothing less than one hundred percent they say or some attitude and let me ask you in that way to what extent can the saudis calm down the accommodation of that interest in syria and what do you think the interest in syria are at the current stage i think everybody needs to define it their interest in syria. in terms of a better future for the syrians political inclusiveness in syria that all syrians would participate in determining their future view down foreign intervention based on neighborly help whatever you want to call it we are supposed as i said to facilitate not to dictate i think the minute. we all understand that only the view of the people can be stand the test of time then we will be moving in the right direction i believe all of us in the region have
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a common destiny i think iran and saudi arabia both live in a very difficult neighborhood we cannot gain security idea expensive in security of one another iran and saudi arabia will suffer from the same extremist groups we will be to targets of the same extremist groups i think the sooner on saudi neighbors realize that this need that they produce all the stakes that they have produced in the past forty years be it saddam hussein be it the taliban be it isis have ended up turning against them it's now time for them to start producing flowers producing development producing prosperity rather than producing terrorist organizations and dictators and i say it's a very difficult emotional question for us the russians as well because real quiet
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use to these fighting dynamic and failing ourselves as if we are being unfairly accused of various that but. sometimes somebody needs to make the first step and do a little bit more than he or she is asking of the adversary is iran ready to go a little bit further than what it wants the saudi arabia to do you know we responded positively to every offer for go. every single offer that was made to us by anybody including by the g.c.c. when g.c.c. so suggested at that time cut out was the. chair of the g.c.c. suggested a dialogue between iran and u.c.c. we immediately responded positively when kuwait on behalf of the g.c.c. suggested a dialogue between iran and the g.c.c. i president went to kuwait and a direct discussion. of kuwait and responded positively but chick
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who has rejected all these efforts so we have taken all the steps but as you said you take one step you expect others to take you suppose steps and unfortunately every step that we have taken has been rebuffed instead of the separate cases but also the neighbors well minister we have to take a very short break now but they will be back in just a few moments and. here's what people have been saying about redacted and i. feel the show i go out of my way to you know a lot of the really packed a punch. is the john oliver of harvey americans do the same we are apparently better than. see people you never heard of redacted the night
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for a moment in the. most. part of the moment. this is the sort of thing the sort of numbers go to show you the supermodel of the world of the cities in the american. forces in the city of the world over the street the. cinema large overview of the loves is. the series. welcome back to worlds apart from the round foreign minister issue about thirty. minutes tara let me ask you about the united states because the united states is a sort of favor the adversary both for iran and for russia. and foreign minister lavrov have a very similar way of philosophizing about international affairs i think your views
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often overlap but there is a major difference in the way the russian and the iranian leadership approach both the current and the former american administration because the iranians seem to be appreciative respectful of the obama administration but show quite a bit of contempt for the current administration the russians on the contrary don't hide their dislike of their by my team but they are very restrained when it comes to criticizing iran one. he is obviously code what do you make of this keep go after being equal opportunity criticizers. we criticize the way that the obama administration that we did on as we criticize the way that the trumpet ministration question to you by the randy i did since the difference was that during the obama administration we had the nuclear negotiations and we worked out what seems to be a historic agreement and russia played an extremely important role in the process
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and we appreciate the road the russian played be appreciate the role that europe played yeah but the united states also played a road which was not as positive as rush over europe but more positive than we expected from the united states historically now the united states is resuming the animosity the hostility that they have exhibited. returning to the old rhetoric to the old ways not that president obama ever abandoned them unfortunately currently the current administration does not use any accepted international. behavior in order to deal with iran and what you see from iran is a reaction to this going to say you made the iranian physician pretty clear and i think it is not just iran that finds actions or statements of the current american president quite disagreeable but i'm particularly that's why i'm particularly interested in what you make of the russian treatment of don't china because i do
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think it's actually very very patient at least when you come into account of how russia usually reacts to the united states how do you read it what do you think is most a proceeding in this sort of can't go off approach to donald trump well i believe russia has a prudent foreign policy and is pursuing its interests and i usually do not think gauge interfering in the internal or external affairs of. other countries would agree that their strategic considerations also impact the opposition because everything in the world especially in the middle is this closely interlinked do you think there is any benefit iran to russia trying to play the sort of i'm good cop with i don't mean it in a way of good call but being more positive than let's say some of the others. again if we focus on our own relations with russia our own cooperation
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with russia on regional issues but in syria for instance iran and russia work together and then russia has some as they say the conflicting good enjoyments with the united states spec'd the decisions that our russian colleagues make. in terms of their bilateral relations with the united states or in terms of the conflicting with the united states because sometimes in this peeved those may be necessary. i believe that nobody accepts the fact that the united states continues to be in c.d.o. inspired to be of the sovereign government of syria and i think does view is shared by. what can i ask you specifically about the nuclear deal you do strongly dislike the trans position on the nuclear deal but i wonder if. there is still enough incentive for iran given your current can all make reparation
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over the europeans with the japanese with the koreans to. uphold this deal regardless of the american compliance that they have because mr trump may or may not pull out of the deal but as i'm sure you know even their bottom administration showed that the white house has its own form of ways of influencing the willingness of companies to deal with iran is it worth it for your country to stick to that deal regardless of what the americans do rather. iran has in part of its side of the bargain we have fulfilled our promises and we have shown that we are a trustworthy international partner when we negotiate we stick to our words unfortunately as you pointed out rightly so the implementation by the united states has been lackluster in at best the attempts by certain us because to prevent economic relations with iran continued both during the obama administration lest
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publicly so and during the trumpet ministrations been more public basically stated policy of a president trump and his or his administration what is it on is concerned we assess the situation to see where the continuation of. observance of of the deed would serve our national security interests and when it comes when it comes to the point that the benefits of continuing duty. would no longer exist when it comes to the point that iran is not receiving did the dividends that they're promised in the deed then we will decide accordingly now i think it's now clear that the american regional allies intend on either renegotiating why this reinterpreting the deal i'm talking about israel and saudi arabia and i wonder what do you think is the best diplomatic tactic in terms of safeguarding the deal because you have the europeans the russians the chinese on your side what do you
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think is the best approach try to appeal to trying directly or try to warfare to saudi arabia and israel who also have that interest outside the united states and europe and russia as you always tried to prevent a deal. you remember. the statements have been made their lobbying effort that was done and the pressures that's been exerted in the course of the negotiation of the then they p. they attempted to prevent the deed from passing and in the legislature in the u.s. and saudi arabia unfortunately and israel because of its nature and seek conflict. hostility and crisis survive so i understand your question persuade trying to stick with it to do it internationally first of all it will show to the world that they're not reliable that nobody can
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deal or negotiate with or reach an agreement with any u.s. president because the next president may come basically late that is not a good signal that they would be sending to the international community but if they decide to send a signal the new dawn has its options and options are not limited and i don't think those options would be very pleasant for the kids and if i may ask you one last question israel and saudi arabia do not have formal diplomatic relations both precisely because of the palestinian issue but it's clear. that diplomatic contacts let me put it that way have intensified significantly. just in his latest address benjamin netanyahu quoted the saudi crown prince as belligerent statement on iran as you would quote your close ally so i think that's a very telling sign how much time do you give them before him sort of coming out and it into the open of it that close relationship and do you think that lation
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should be still be how bad by the lack of the resolution to the palestinian question. i do not believe that's new that has been going on for a long time is a bit more public but the arab street has seen so much so three of the palestinian people. the fact that palestinian the rights of the palestinians are trampled upon on on a routine basis the fact that every neighborhood has been invaded aggressed upon by israel and basically with impunity over the past seventy years these are all facts that make it very difficult for saudi arabia to openly disclose its secret relations with israel that has existed for a baby but he just said that it's become something that you would expect that the
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rights of the palestinians are being trampled upon for daycares doesn't that mean that the arab street no longer cares about the north the arab street does kid and his boy instead of addressing the root cause that's. leading to the type of extremism that we see in the other would saudi arabia. his friends are trying to divert attention but diverting attention would not reduce the cause will not address the cause i think the sooner i saw the neighbors realize what the threat is and address that threat instead of trying to divert the attention from the threat and this one every move in the right direction you know what minister this is all we have time for i really appreciate your being with us and tell us please share your comments and outweigh their facebook and you tube pages and i hope to see you again same place same time here i don't want a partner. somehow
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stein is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos remember wolf it was dismissive looking like an elitist with my complicity is going to have to study all media. john i just hope. the only palestinians who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i don't think there's some of those who endure under the oak vision the only good give us. and the earth is all of us that is the heart of this lady of the muscle
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that you have i'm going to continue muslims you know do more commitments also don't piss off. the. police is to lose. to me she. wanted least to loathe me it was merely. an. israeli forces respond with water cannon to gas the mass protests in the west bank
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following president move to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel. no one knows what will happen. coming to jerusalem u.s. president makes a statement in the israeli citizens will need to pay the price for the controversial decision on jerusalem is also discussed at the meeting between the top diplomats of russia and america along with the crises in syria ukraine and north korea and the. spikes in eighteen thousand dollars earlier today we take a look at some of the hikes and fumbles of people many.

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