or even people who are not really part of the organization are willing to carry out attacks on their own a separate cells so the syrian forces fighting isis are taking having losses in there as our whereas islamic state getting the strength and lots of ation from to make a tough last stand in their remaining syrian territory i mean why aren't they folding like a house of cards right now they are ministry defeated they are perhaps still stretched out at various desert areas within syria or perhaps small parts of iraq so but an organization which doesn't have an army can still carry out all kinds of terrorist attacks all over the world as we have seen in europe for instance in western europe there have been various at the expo people who have grown up in europe they are not being sent by the so-called islamic states but they are already there and sometimes for various generations wise ass is more resistant to assad's troops than the u.s.

backed syrian democratic forces after the fall of rocca. struck a truce recently with a.s.d. af according to the reports from the inside syria media center. well i think there it is a same it depends on let's say the syrian regime wants to attack the islamic states just as well but thus far over the past few years the syrian regime has used other forces to eliminate one another it's a kind of war economy so sometimes it looked and the syrian regime has been accused of gordon a thing with the islamic state but in fact if that was the case at all it was just the let's say a military strategy to use other forces to eliminate the other. and i mean and i think that still is going to happen in a province like it live in the northwest there you have the the successor of.

and they will be perhaps at that by the americans by a. by the turks so as long as other countries other armies are doing the work for him to syrian army it's all right with the mosque is so they use use these other forces like friends the kurdish forces in the north they have received in the past arms of the syrian regime not because they were friends of the syrian regime but because that state it suited the syrian regime to use them to attack others and i lemonade them so once these other forces have been eliminated like this lemon state then i think this era and regime will turn to others and the miis like the kurdish forces in the north but it seems like the race to take credit for victory against i says is really on who can claim to be the ultimate winner here for

instance french press and mccall has already said we have won in russia to say mean that general victory. i think it's not and the country that is really can claim the . victory because there are so many countries involved in the fight against against islamic state it is the western alliance are countries the syrian regime. radians the hezbollah so to claim it i think it's a political statement that but it ition wants to claim that he or she is the main responsible for winning from dives and it's has been a process of very serious what does d. and devices mean for the local groups on the ground in syria when are the syrian kurds and assad's forces going to go against each other ones to common how such anime is no more or will we see a defacto partition of syria between the kurds and arabs i think nobody wants

a partition of syria but the problem is everyone wants to have the power and syria sold them a big question though is that once the us is a limited agent or defeated militarily and the regime troops and the. opposition troops are confronting one another with the help of on the one side russia and iran and on the other side by the americans how much the americans are still prepared to support the people they were supporting before or whether offered has been defeated they will lose their interest and they don't want i think at all and the confrontation with russia in syria and probably also not the other way around now there's all this talk of a fish or pre-lit political transition in syria and how maybe gone after a peace deal is hammered out now we keep hearing about the opposition and what they

want but what should we do with those who fight for us that are are they going to just accept something they fought so hard to prevent. well i think that the main forces in syria fighting for. are supporting him are russia and hezbollah and iran and they none of them wants to news their allies so they will keep supporting him. supporting they will keep supporting the regime because they don't want to lose a strategic ally what about you know syrians who are certainly a partially not all of syria but a lot of people in syria are still supporting assad what about them. well they they will wait until there is a new situation but syria is peaceful so they will keep supporting the regime and many others are opposing the regime and the negotiations are you can better

gold interest syrian talks in geneva as long as both sites still want to eliminate woman or the opposition wants to leave at least that although they say we have no preconditions and this is the syrian regime in fact wants to get rid of the opposition so the syrian regime minutes really speaking is getting more and more strong and the country's military speaking on the party that is stronger military speaking the more it is strong the less they are willing to really make any concessions you know after i visit to russia vladimir putin discuss peace in syria with donald trump do you think washington and moscow care really come to a consensus in syria i mean saying how their relations in all the other areas chests abysmal i think it is relations the relationship between moscow and the mosques and the united states and the masses is fully

a symmetrical. russia is a friend of the president of the americas in fact is anime and have not only during the civil war about during this war but also in the past had very. negative relations so it will be very difficult to have a real compromise between the united states and russia because they simply because assembling filmic i mean you have noticed if you notice that mr and damn for the past half year or so americans aren't so adamant about. assad leaving is as a precondition to anything anymore because they do understand. in order to have some sort of peace settlement in syria they need us right now and i don't think that russia is actually insistent on not staying once the peaceful transition is done i don't think that assad as

a person is the sole important thing for russia. no a so there's no those all important as a person but he is important as far as his leaving would cause a risk in the regime falling apart so indeed the americans are americans so much less to have him leave folderol from time to time they keep saying at the again so in the end i think most countries are accepting that he will stay and. dearest told that he would have to leave at the beginning of the transitional period but there must first be a transitional period at all because for the regime transition is a kind of dirty word almost that they want don't want any transition the most they want and they reform us so but as long as they stay in power for the regime it's ok but gradually also from the gulf states and also from qatar and saudi arabia and

others and for turkey those old those countries was first want to him to leave not only to leave but. they have now come to other opinions because they got particularly turkey also they got a lot of damage or does a fund there is from dera support of the opposition because disk gave the kurdish forces a chance to occupy a big part of balls on syria. promise event that will then take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to a close friend and former special envoy to syria axum bassa there are two incidents and iraq now let's talk about how the syrian civil war is going to play out in the near future some change.

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we're back with nicholas van dam former dutch special envoy to syria discussing the situation on the ground and the war torn country welcome back mr van dam now the united states has a lot more troops on the ground us here that they care to meet and it seems that there is no plan for any me at withdrawal what well the american military presence mean for the final act of the syrian war when it comes it is really openly open and that whether or not the americans want to stay there and gone from the syrian regime and the russians i very much doubt that they're really want to continue this war as almost already have taken seven years to go into a new military actions against rome so if they would be they might defend the opposition but they i don't think they are going to take in anyway this is a regime they may be using these forces to eliminate extremist forces in the

province for instance together with the third strike gather with others but i don't think they are willing and the more. dole to fight the regime so it will be a two goal you could call it a cleaning up. against terrorist extremist forces but this is both in the interest of the regime and both india interest of the moderate forces of the opposition you've mentioned turkey and i want to talk a bit about it the country has recently established another syrian foothold on kharaj is going to keep its troops and syrian territory for as long as it pleases are they playing a stabilizing role here what's your take. i think the main thing for dave for turkey is to get rid of and the powerful position of the b y d the corridors party which is empowered and the p.k. k.

so if they can at lehman eight or neutralize the role of the kurds in syria then for them it's ok i think. and of course if turkey suffers from terrorist attacks which would emanate from northern syria they want to. attack those as well these forces but i don't think the turks i think they will already have recruited that they've intervened at all because if they had not intervened probably the kurdish second factor would be that strong so i think india and they are going to cooperate with the regime to eliminate the kurdish forces in the north is a common interest but it's quite a switch from wanting to eliminate or to to topple the regime of president bush. together with other forces and then come back and cooperate with him against the

kurdish forces which have achieved quite a lot of independence well what is saudi arabia which is accuser sponsoring rivals across the region. protests as being to fit it well that's just a band on them. did i think the m d a so days they are much more focused on the role of iran than on any other force so they want to diminish the strength of iran for strategic reasons and for that they have no also a kind of link with israel boots which also wants iran to be eliminated from syria territory so i think deep deep saudis at first they wanted to topple the regime and i think not be accepted but they are much more interested in the strategic issue from syria because they didn't have any and the problem with syria in the past but since let's say the americans go to patients of iraq and they

off their mouth the arrhenius have a gnome enormously one gained ground in the whole region iran iraq syria and lebanon so i think that is the main preoccupation sold those countries that interfered when it's really directly or into a drink glee in syria they had side effects which were very unfavorable towards them and now they're concentrating on these factors to eliminate them so for the turkey this is the kurds and for the so does this is so since we're talking about all the players involved and you mentioned iran iranian sponsored manpower is crush will tell us that success all those advisors militias etc if that stays in power and eventually wins the war is that going to give iran for a chill mastery over syria will assad have to become aidan's client. i didn't i

don't think so in the sense that also wouldn't want those forces those foreign forces on his country except in a kind of way like for instance russia having a military base or so but not to to dominate the regime is not what he wants at all he would he he did help them but once he will be back in power over the whole of syria then he doesn't want them anymore but the rain ians have their interests or it's israel of course so they want to have a kind of military base in syria to attack or defend against israel but the israelis don't want this at all so in a way the iranians will have to withdraw when there are not any more need it and this is i think the countries that support the regime they cannot simply dictate to president bashar al assad what they want him to do because it's

a beautiful thing they want to keep their so-called client their ally about that they're allied to syrian allies not simply going to do what their supporter is saying if they feel that it's not in their interests in iraq the kurdish population is in a face of our lands one back from the ruins of isis it is and baghdad's hands but it is restless and it all comes on the back of the recent independence referendum campos ass's war break out in iraq over the kurdish question. well there is inside iraq i think in my opinion the kurdish democratic party or do that say the other leaders have a buzz on the joint interview during the referendum they claimed all were the stone which was having him not only me but also the parties the controversial areas which they conquered in the interest of battling isis but francisco cook has

also been very controversial so i think as long as the kurds under the leadership of morris on the or anyone else stay within that tree which had the or official kurdish autonomy i don't see there is there's any reason for war and they have withdrawn so i think there is no and no to any reason for war and the war but if they would have stayed within not just because of the oil but also it's also important if they would have stayed in kirkuk and refused to leave then it would really be a war a reason for war but that reason has now been lifted or has been has gone has been eliminated by their withdrawal so the iranian side or rather a rivalry is what shaping in the middle east lately lebanese prime minister saad hariri quit his post very abruptly while a saudi arabia some say he was kidnapped they saudis claim that lebanon declared

war on them then how do you returned is now prime minister again really bizarre turn of an step include visits to paris cypress egypt what's going on here is this all connected to the iran saudi standoff was think what he said what the prime minister of lebanon was that he had problems was. and the hezbollah being part of the lebanese political equation is dominant but it has bunch bigger military power than friends the lab and the. lebanese army i don't think as far as i've been able to follow that hezbollah has a role in wanting to dominate the whole of lebanon the booty very unwise but that can be that in the perception of saudi arabia they want a much bigger role. than they want them to have and this is old

interlink iran saudi arabia that has been given a corridor yes. but if you're saying that hezbollah of being part a large part of the lebanese political establishment equation is the problem that we see her area being back being prime minister should we assume that the problem is gone it's dealt with well the problem or did issue of hezbollah being very very powerful militarily as long as they don't threaten the government of lebanon there is nothing nothing that bad for the government is the saudi lack blockade of qatar part of the saudi arabian cold war as well as qatar going to cave eighteen or move to iran scam pushed by saudi hostility well i think that the gulf states in general the gulf cooperation council states

they have taken a role which is very and to rein in. some states but also they have. more open relationship with. russia. and this is very much rejected by so dear abia but i think if you have a conflict the place too many conflicts and you want to solve and i think it's better to have some relations if not good relations done just to have also relations and then i think in this respect is playing it so it kind of intermediary role because of the exclusion by the other gulf cooperation states. has moved more in the direction of iran. because of this oman is a case apart because they have growth of legal relations but i think this whole attitude against iran could be

a little bit could be changed i mean from an minutes and miti and then most of. stood at the towards more reconsider the eight three. but one of these so the princes once told me that the sudanese have in their d.n.a. a kind of hostility towards iran. we'll see how it all plays out lester of thank you very much for the center abler talking ten o'clock former attached special envoy to syria thatcher and diplomat about the civil war in syria and the ways that sending across a wider middle east that is it for the latest edition of next time. thank you.

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