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a terror suspect is arrested in new york after an explosion rocks a central bus station injuring three people. visit during his middle east and announces the withdrawal of russian troops will syria. and the israeli prime minister is in europe seeking support for donald trump's recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital but the e.u. foreign policy chief makes it clear brussels will not follow suit. more on these stories. stay with us. discussing russia's ban from the winter olympics and if you're watching in the u.k. or island talk show renegade is next. hello
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and welcome to. making history again this time in the middle east russia has banned from the two thousand and eighteen winter olympics is this politics on steroids and do neo cons and saakashvili have no shame. talking some real news i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have exclusive for he's director and writer for the duran dot com and we have a love which is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics or a german cross how girls in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated the review of the ricochet effect. trump recognizing jerusalem
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is the couple of israel continues and we all expected that here mark i understand you've been mining the pearls of wisdom coming from that woman that has a ph d. in who believe studies nikki haley at the united nations i have to say that this stand up comedian at the us a sense of the security council is even funnier than the last one although i know she's largely taking her crib notes she's got some some zingers that she's extemporaneously advice to some ringers here so. nikki haley the u.s. has done much more to the u.n. i'm sorry. has done much more to damage the prospects for middle east peace then there were vents them we will not be a party that the us no longer stands by when israel was unfairly attacked in the united nations when has the us ever stood by. the united states will not be lectured to by countries that lack any credibility when it comes to treating both
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israeli much of credibility i think those are the key words so i guess the u.s. is not going to lecture itself being as the one that it's lacks the most credibility when it comes to mediating between the that it's a transit parent here is that you know. there was the security council was called an emergency meeting everyone discussed it and we had. one country one of the united nations defending it i mean it's been roundly criticized as we all expected it would be it is very very rare that an american president makes a decision that has absolutely no benefit for his own country and this is exactly such a decision this decision is not beneficial to the united states in fact it's very detrimental to the u.s. diplomacy in the middle east into the u.s. position in the middle east and the overall in the world i think you can even go further alex i think you know when. put into a precarious position i mean like it or not the united states and israel are close
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allies here but trump is actually endangering israel in much the same way that the american ally in the in asia south korea is being threatened because you know it donald trump is making a decision over their heads as it were in really defining with their security interests are which they are not. aligned is donald trump seems to understand how the world of the world works i'm sure i mean he said the middle east on fire with this announcement and i just can't imagine how they're going to move the u.s. . embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem without billions and billions of dollars in security i mean it's just going to be a complete mess it's going to be a complete mess but more than that i think we should focus troops decision that it was very much a populist decision we may all criticize it but when you look at the mainstream media and you look at a lot of the u.s. population there for this decision they don't know that the new idea when i do this is going to say they don't understand that you political absolutely but when you
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look at even obama even clinton they were for moving the embassy to jerusalem they just didn't have the guts to do it and here comes trump who just comes in and says let's do it and so i mean people in general the u.s. the public and a lot of the political class the mainstream media are behind this decision and they've expressed that they're behind the decision are we see something about why clinton and bush and so forth who who made promises of moving the embassy and then do it the weighed the pros and cons and decided not to do it based on the ones where they can't because that's why they don't have that waiver it was it was a great and get out of jail free card why did they make those promises they wanted to please the israeli lobby in washington but at the same time not do that they may not make their financial decisions to the decision that their menfolk to the u.s. foreign policy but what does this decision see about washington to be it says a lot about their rising to the front of the israeli lobby in d.c.
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this is the only the first and foremost a reason why this decision was made now there's also. a little bit there's another lobby that's up and coming there and it's the saudi one here how does this work mark here because i mean rhetorical of course the saudis have come out against this ok i'm not sure they're actually committed to it and maybe this is all part of. a big plan for peace in the middle east which we know nothing about i think this is just the trump of ministration stepping over its own feet and managing to unite the entire. of the world outside of the us and israel against it even in this case saudi arabia even if mostly rhetorically now i'm going to borrow from both. victor and from the us government officials on playbook they love to lecture other countries officials from other countries that what they do is not in the interests of their own people well this move is not in the interests of the american people
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but it is in the interests of donald j. j. and this is why it may be. because he's in political hot water right now i've got if you'll bear with me here trump's twelve steps why this was done all right so. one it distracts the mainstream media from the russia gate witchhunt two it placates and pleases the foreign policy elite on both sides of the aisle remember chuck schumer the democratic minority leader in the senate encouraged to do that and he's quite proud about that number three it plays to trump's domestic big number four finally ends the longstanding fiction of the us as a neutral middle east peace in the good mediator number five it forces the arab regimes to remember palestine they'd all rather all get really really number six it benefits russia at the end of the day as the whole world looks aghast at the us number seven it fulfills obama's campaign declaration that jerusalem is the
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undivided capital of israel i'm old enough to remember when obama promised to declare that during his campaign number eight it has the neo cons ready to declare him the second coming number nine it has at least some potential to make the fragile palestinian political roof occasion a reality number ten it's pretty much short a restart a new into fatah eleven it will result in the deaths of many israelis lebanese and even probably more. stinney and last but not least it's even further destabilizes the middle east and north africa powderkeg just like everything else the us does in the region. thank you for that comprehensive list of let's talk about the russia being banned from the year of the two thousand and eighteen olympics and south korea in my introduction as it is politics is poisonous politics on steroids this is part of its worst it's the combination of injection of crude politics into
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sports into international sports it's very obvious that the russian the russian team being banned from the olympics in south korea has everything to do with the new cold war being waged by the united states and its allies against moscow and very little to do with the actual booking scandals let's say man but let's go back to the one thousand early one nine hundred eighty s. now in one thousand. more than fifty countries boycott it the olympics in moscow but back then they were more honest they didn't talk about any other use they honestly say everybody politics it easily is political they didn't like that the soviet union was in afghanistan and they didn't like that moscow was challenging the u.s. wouldn't you know wouldn't listen to american workers and they boycotted the olympics in four years in only so you must go to the scene with its allies and boycott the olympics in the u.s.
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and then the cold war ended and for for about two decades the olympics went on fine but then a new cold war erupted and we see this it again it seems to me this is like desperation throw in sports right now ok to isolate russia i mean i'm not an expert on this doping scandal or scandal if it's real or not but it for me when i think of the more winter olympic games i can't i can't think of it without the one of the winter games superpowers russia being there it changes the. dynamic completely you know all politics and politics is change that have it completely and i think politics has has found a way to destroy just about every institution in orchestration that we once thought was maybe neutral or was about peace or you know a fair playing field it's not and i think that's that's kind of the what sums up the trump presidency to me is even with jerusalem even with with hollywood now and the sexual abuse scales even with the olympics all the masks are off we're starting
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to see everything very transparently and with the olympics anyone that thought the olympics was not about politics was not about doping that the athletes were not doping all the athletes were doping is a fool we know that the athletes are top look at tyson look at justin gatlin carl lewis marion jones the u.s. had balco in silicon valley feeding drugs to every single athlete olympics. baseball players football players everyone was busted from barry bonds to mark required to all of them were busted doping but nothing but the media will tell you the russians are genetically prone to doping that we were just quoting the james clapper the for you former us the net is director of national intelligence who said russians are genetically predisposed towards deceiving to continue my education and being waged against any other ethnic group like in the u.s. and what would happen due to inefficiently or exactly well it's different for russians because there's
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a phobia is the anti-semitic exactly right but. but let's be clear there was doping in russia like there is in most countries right there is evidence of that but this politicized move to give a hand to russia i mean what you don't know why isn't it in common sense would be if an individual is caught don't i mean that person should be banned or put put on some kind of timeline to get back in why is it an entire country because it because of geopolitics of course because the u.s. is angry at syria and the u.s. and blocking the u.s. is points from seizing control of at least all of ukraine but this is this is very specific this is all based on a report by this kind of security contractor agency the world anti-doping agency which farmed out its report to one canadian lawyer who based all of his report on the testimony jump in it sounds it sounds like we're talking about other fakery dossiers a special occasion when they're going to do
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a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with r.t. . join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. hey everybody i'm stephen bob. taft hollywood guy the suspect every proud american first of all i'm just george bush and our deal to say this is my buddy max the famous financial guru well just a little bit different i just abraham lincoln one of the oh no one knows up with all the drama happening in our country i'm shooting the good have some fun meet everyday americans. and look for the start to bridge the gap this is the
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great american people which. we first like when you all know it's coming through and spoke to if somebody would have been told me because i'm going to spend my life for replaying committees or a little disco kosova of salt it was clear to see. every night over we were attacked by the arabs we will attacking them and we will extremely shocked and saying that's not possible i'll make those move to such scenes and then the soldiers and myself from the call some of those books while the house with all the pools of our we've all dealt with over the day all the. billy much second class citizens in the on call. it was like
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a lightning in my head that there is no way to be able to live together without tearing down tom. welcome back across like we're all things we consider on peter ball to mind you we're discussing some real news. ok gentlemen to turn our attention to some recent events with yemen we just recently we had a president asking through intermediaries the soda used to break the blockade of yemen as far as we know human agencies report that that hasn't happened why is this just optics here or because i mean you know i think some of our viewers saw this really. lack of responsibility from c.b.s.
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on sixty minutes a few weeks ago by watching america's role in the probably the worst manmade human humanity humanitarian disaster in the world today look it's obviously media optics at play. the obama administration reaction to the bombing. in the here and then a couple years ago when the white house essentially. they're going to look over the military cooperation between washington and and see how they can influence so if you read it to stop or to modify. its campaign against yemen well where that that go nowhere why then and we see the same thing happening today the united states supports. and its allies in their in their fight against who he is in yemen the united states government knows full well what is happening here
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something that is close to genocide. mass killer diseases exactly that were completely out of that and that book and you know when the united states once it's always to do or not do something it calls them and it tells them what to do or not to do and usually it has an effect. it's really interesting i existed when we had to listen come out in the last few days a. century telling the saudis they should be more thoughtful. about how they behave in the middle way when they're advocating you know exactly when i read the law and maybe i'd like to see the entire transcript when i read that line i was really kind of taken about coming to the the degree of this tragedy going on in yemen in the having that kind of rhetoric come out of the secretary i think it was complete optics i think you're right i think made that announcement moments after he made the announcement about jerusalem and i don't know what was going through his team's communication team's mind when he made that announcement i think he made it knowing
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that they're not going to push saudi arabia to pull back there so it's just going to check and i said i just it was just kind of throwing the arab world a bone after he just made a shell announcement about. i don't expect any yeah you know what it was just i don't think anyone expects you know how to rip it apart let's change gears here and when i have to cover so much here we had the russian federation i think as an intermediary for north korea telling us that the north koreans are interested in direct talks with the united states i bet you didn't hear that in mainstream media it's very simple is very interesting considering the saber rattling that we have and media every time. something happens in north korea well we also have the ruling bombastic statements between twitter feed and kim jong on through his state media representatives insulting each other back and forth but. there are serious people starting to be worried about you know how tense things have got in this situation
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and that is revealed by discussions through select national security reporters in the mainstream media this week that have pointed out that whatever our politicians trump and many others before him and right now have tried to present the north korean leadership including kim jong un as a madman is insane. like trump him self that is being now dismissed by the cia and the pentagon's own assessment which is now being brought forward and highlighted that they say that he is a rational actor acting in his company's national country's national security interests and that he intends to use a nuclear weapon only as a target to protect its very end and you know cross like we've been north korean programs for years and he said to me the director of the programs and every time we do it it's the same program because the demand so the north koreans have always are
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the same they want security. and stop people as far as negotiations let's remember what the north korean approach was one became president they were rated to come and north korean delegation was ready to come to washington called direct negotiations with state department representatives there were visas almost issued to the north koreans but then at the last moment there is visas were involved that in the north korean american negotiations never came through now just in the last several months there was. a report to. transmit that message to pyongyang saying that if north korea holds off making a new missile tests conducting a new missile firings for two months then that you know. what sort of go into a negotiation mode well not actually if you notice before the last picture of
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yourself going over here he'll go off for two months examine that week and then the end there's still that there the united states has not kept its word you know but one of the into alex one of the things i think is interesting is that the russian angle on all this i think believe it or not the russians are trying to convince the americans you better wake up there's still time for a collision because we have. two leaders are spoiling for some kind of fight for p.r. and i think trump is foolishly got himself into a mess these babies i don't think you're going to make it ok i mean i agree with what mark said earlier i think i think you're starting to see some pockets of the mainstream media start to recognize that korea north korea is acting in a very sane matter i mean you had tucker carlson due to a five minute segment on north korea where he admitted that a lot of what north korea is doing can be attributed to what hillary clinton the
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obama team did to libya and what the what happened to saddam in that the minute you get rid of your weapons we're coming after you had pat buchanan write a piece about how the north koreans acting in that they are acting in a very predictable the very same matter so you are starting to see pockets of the media starting to speak out and say wait a minute not everything is as it's being presented here you know mark. the former president of georgia the fugitive as well as a lot of other things and part of his title here he's in the news again why well. after being deposed the u.s. backed neo liberal strongman. he was briefly a hipster for a while floating around the berg and then when the putsch resumed backed by the west seized power in ukraine he was brought in to be the proconsul of odessa. a russian majority city in southern south central with a mandate to do what the mandate as a whole area says this is to stop corruption at least publicly even though he's
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wanted on corruption and abuse of charges power towards his own country well he stepped on some wrong political toes in ukraine it got a little bit of a big head. to try to imagine himself as prime minister of ukraine was removed from that his ukrainian citizenship was removed he had renounced his georgian citizenship in order to take ukrainians engine shop he was without. state he managed to force his way back into the ukraine. through the border against the wishes at least and resident and threaten to jump off of a building to look at his behavior is definitely bizarre this isn't the first time i hear exhibits that kind of behavior there are some issues with his tie but that's a different scale c.n.n. and the i think we're. very very good ok so that's another interesting. view of this from lee senior fellow at the atlantic council.
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who just. wrote in his social media account he protested that the u.s. taxpayers are actually playing for his activities in ukraine and essentially funding that protesters are protesting in his support in kiev so it's an open admission. by a member of a fellow of the u.s. think tank organization close to the u.s. government the u.s. government actually funds political activities by second street and his supporters in the u.k. and we might not be number one else but if you go you know it all traces back to john mccain if you ask me i mean it was all about we're all george you know when it was brought to your training that if this were all you created now so i think you know you're the more you see mccain start to lose his mind and go a little crazy the boy who's the patron of us as we see him also start to lose his might and go a little crazy this is the real problem is that the neo cons in washington and also
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in europe now because we're starting to see carl bildt all of this to mess with their own brand of exceptionalism neo-cons in europe they are grooming these proxies in the former countries of the soviet union who are so on hinged part of the reason they're so on hinged is they're selected and groom the by these neo cons unexceptional is who are themselves so on his. and this is you know pushing towards confrontation with russia this is not going to stop we're going to keep seeing figures like mikhail saakashvili like like. be the neo nazi speaker of the rada in the ukraine. but it's interesting you know i mean i notice that you know bloomberg you know not the most friendly towards russia they are openly questioning the. the the idea of continuing to back something like
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saakashvili i mean it's the wrong guy to back meaning there could have been someone else there but you know so long the darling of the saakashvili is not being groomed to be the president of ukraine and he no he is he actually the u.s. never considered him somebody who could become president of ukraine and he's not ukrainian. psychological. stance sort of outlook is somewhat different than the ukraine is what they expect so he is being used as a pressure every tool as leverage against the current government of ukraine which is also controlled by the u.s. to make them do certain things that washington wants resist this is how the u.s. actually going to putting pressure and pushing essentially this is the way the united states government operates its different colonial states it uses different partitions puts them against its them against each other and then he uses that situation to get the policy of the washington wants and you have. right about one thing the west controls who took power in ukraine and maintains it now and that's
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