that is the real reason there is something i don't write. us regulators voted to scrap net neutrality despite protests in washington critics say the move could create a so-called internet for the elite. president vladimir putin concludes his annual marathon q. and a session with john that's something more than seventy questions in almost four hours. and palestinian protesters clashed with israeli police in a nonstop wave of violence over jerusalem this muslim nations reject the u.s. role in the middle east peace process for more on these stories had to dot com coming up next freedom party leader filters is the guest on so i don't think he's picture of your.

car welcome to sophie and co and sophie shevardnadze the rise of the political riot is being felt across europe and the netherlands is no exception for a controversial politician haired welder's veteran of the game took second place with this party while the radical policies of his now make it into the dutch and european mainstream well i ask the man himself parrot will durst is my guest today . as the immigration crisis fuels the rise of the right wing in europe the anti muslim sentiment is stirring in the continent and the e.u. finds itself between the rock and a hard place on the world stage will the european union be able to adapt to the issues of the day how should brussels navigate the complex foreign policy conundrums and will the new political movements from the right. yes it did change

beyond recognition. eric holder is welcome to the show great to have you back with us on our program so ended actual action in march you were tipped to win but that didn't quite happen was that a clear sign to you that the dutch people don't really like the changes you are proposing. no exactly the opposite we were actually one of the windows we gained more than thirty percent of our votes we had fifteen seats in the dutch parliament before the elections and we came up with twenty seats after the elections and actually the winner of the elections the baathists the current prime minister the last love of seats so indeed we became the runner up the second biggest body birds were with we were one of the biggest winners of the elections at the end of the day. you criticized elite state stablished but i mean you've been part of dutch politics for twenty years aren't you they lead an establishment.

that's a good question you know it's not how long you are in both they say it's what you propose to do and i think that the end of the day the dutch people should the dutch politicians the dutch government should listen to the dutch people and we don't in holland it's not america first or russia first but it's holland blessed and when it comes to the european union very the biggest nets contributor that we are paying to solve the east european countries all our taxpayers' money or whatever it comes to the mess immigration the dutch people and the dutch electorate get a very bad deal from the car on the leads and what i propose is that we listen more to the people and the people are wrong. and a strong alliance that is working together with other countries when they see fit and have a common interest but not be as stupid as the policy is unfortunately still today

after the election in france and netherlands right leaning parties like yours had a strong showing french president mccall and german chancellor merkel in and started talking about serious reform in the e.u. will you be content with they were for their proposing. well you know if you are being politicians are people on favor of more european union talk about three from what it actually means is not reform but more european union and indeed about these like mine we won the elections my party as a those who became the second biggest party in the netherlands where we have thirteen fourteen but the symbolic moment in france money in the bannister rightfully mention became the second spot the in france in austria the f.b.o. became the second biggest party in austria probably going to government as well in austria and germany is sort of the ultimate diva feel good slams a new body became the third biggest of germany so indeed our voice the voice

of millions of europeans is getting stronger today and we don't want more european reform we want more national sovereignty we want less european union my party wants to leave the european union we believe that we can only be sovereign and the judge of our own front door when it comes to immigration if we outside the european union and become a strong sovereign nation again so as you will see our party is called the party for freedom and you talk about freedom all the time but at the same time i mean you're suggesting closing mosques elo or netherlands and making an attractive how does this go along with freedom that you're promoting. well that's a very good question actually i believe that and freedom incompatible look to all the countries in the world where islam is dominant today you see

a total lack of freedom a lack of civil society a lack of rule of law and the let lack of both individual and collective rights so i believe that the more we finds islamization of a free societies the more re preserve our freedom so i'm fighting for freedom and i told my body to body for freedom because i want families our children our grandchildren also in fifty years to be free citizens and if we would become one day more as that make it would go on the worst when it comes to freedom so what about the freedom of practicing your religion i mean you have about your children and your grandchildren you never know one of them may marry a muslim turn into a muslim you may have muslim great grandchildren what about their freedom of practicing their religion it's a choice right well you know. yes but i believe and this is why i believe it's not

incompatible with our constitution which as you write for the internet as the freedom of religion i believe that islam is not so much a religion but more an ideology an ideology that wants to talk to you terry an ideology that wants to dominate not only your whole person's life but also a whole society and one of the examples i always give for and i explain people why it's more like ideology than a religion is that if you were willing to leave islam the battle of the is dead you are not free as in for instance christianity or judaism of buddhism to leave and this is a token of an ideology of and even those of the theory and ideology so i believe that we should have no freedom of we have freedom of elation even in the constitution but if we see islam not so much as a religion but as

a door that it errored ideology that once again does not want to assimilate into society but wants to dominate it goes against the freedom of women of the press of homosexuals of christians of jews and this is something once again if you want a society that is free you have to have less islam. all right i'm not advocate of islam i'm christian myself but i think what you are talking about is a very narrow following in islam and that would be called maybe wahhabi or extreme muslims but i don't believe that applies to majority of the muslim people that i know and that live around the world but that is your opinion ok and the same thing could be sad about the christian religion and we should go really deep into the bible it goes against gays and it goes against women's rights and all of that could be said about christian religion as well it's really about how you read religion but anyway ok so you've been saying that there is no such thing as moderate islam

but at the same time i. i know that in conference in italy in september you said that many individual muslims are moderates so why are those moderate less really centering on moderate islam who are those moderate muslims can you give me examples . well listen i make a distinction as i always have done between the ideology and the people and indeed there is no moderate islam there is no european islam or that kind of nonsense there's only one islam and that is the islam of the book the koran of the life of one helmet and that is the islam that we know and that unfortunately cannot and will never be changed is not extreme extreme extreme islam is a pretty unison that means exactly the same on the other hand you have the people and i do believe in moderate people and indeed i do acknowledge that there are many muslims around the world who are moderate people but unfortunately and this is one of the differences where you compare i should just be it with christians or jews

today we see that societies where muslims are in a large amount or maybe even the majority that there is a total lack of freedom and democracy when we're talking about the more liberal kind of arab countries like for instance egypt of us all the more darfur like iran or the wahhabi indeed the sunni muslim country and in my own country the netherlands today we saw at researchers that we have in holland almost one million muslims and the kind of leicestershire liberal institution as the university of amsterdam made a survey and approved at eleven percent of the dutch muslims which is more than one hundred thousand people which is twice the amount of the dutch army they stated in holland that the willing to use violence in holland for their beliefs and forty islam and we don't see that with any other religion and this is what we are

importing in the west. today we don't see. the text all over europe today almost on a monthly or sometimes weekly basis committed by people in the name of christianity of judaism and indeed not every muslim is a terrorist but unfortunately most of the derose in europe today are muslims and we can be politically correct and ignore it but i think is a lot wiser accomplished less or less of course i mean they slum this terror threat to europe is very real no one argues with that but don't you think that measures like closing mosque or tough cracking down on muslims that would work actually the other way around increase the risk of terror attacks rather than reduce it exactly the opposite so we have to stand up and we don't have to call any muslim a terrorist that would be ridiculous i would even reject reject such a suggestion that we should not import more islam on the contrary we should destroy

my sour society and the koran once again is a book that has more anti semitism in it than for instance might come from out of his love and we should see it for this not all the people are bad people on the contrary but the ideology is a dangerous ideology and i traveled when i was still a free man when i was not protected by the secret police about the diplomatic police for twenty four seven when i had no friends to us from other organizations on my hands i travel throughout the middle east and i went to almost every islamic country and i met so many friendly and hospitable people but i saw that the entrance on islam every almost every arab and islamic country was devastating people were not free there was terror or evil within the islamic world let alone in the countries and both in islam so we should do one thing the fine. which is not

islamic we are all a country we are continent based on christianity judaism and humanism and islam at the end of the day should not become more dominant all right we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue discussing garros pressing issues with character will durst leader of the dutch party for freedom stay tuned.

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benefited. very much from the existing plurality rule system because he was so different from the other chair if you took any one of those mainstream candidates and you put him in the head to head contest with. that other candidate might well have won. and we're back with harris will durst leader of the dutch party for freedom discussing major trends in today's here opinion politics mr wilders like you said

your opinions on this have landed you on the al qaeda hit list i know you're surrounded by security twenty four seven you live in a safe house i mean does all of this as elation get your hat the politician has to be close to his nation people can imagine that being detached from everyday reality isn't that good for it. listen. last elections my party out of thirteen bodies in the bottom and one one third of our votes and we became the second biggest party in holland's only exist for ten years had never happened in holland before that the relatively new party became the second biggest party in parliament so we are not in the batched we are maybe at best even more than any other party look at the outcome of the democratic elections we are at that just and indeed it's not easy and i fight for the freedom of my people i fight for the

freedom of the west as i see it and in the process i lost my personal freedom and let me tell you if i would have been addressing criticizing christianity or judaism which i am not to be clear but if i would have done that i would not have been on the head list i would not have lost my personal freedom people would not have tried to murder me so this is exactly my point i'm not the only one in the world if you look at a lot of people on the whole organization zz or journalist or politicians who criticize islam they get into the same trouble and exactly my point that moderation is far to reach for in islam i say well there's a refugee problem spiralling out of control has got here of questioning one of its greatest achievements open borders do you sail a shank and so has to go for

a movement of people across europe where that. yeah that's the that's the only lee way to get rid of the shans i'm the only way this that we have to stop the immigration from middle east africa and if you think that's what happened with the immigration crisis that we saw in the last few years with all the so-called asylum seekers that came to our bought him of the worlds that was a bath i would say you haven't seen anything yet you know if you look at the figures from the united nations you will see that there will be a quote rumbling of the inhabitants of africa today africa has one billion and habitants and in the end of this century that's will grow from one billion to four billion and service proves that one third of those people would want to emigrate the most probably to the richer about the north of africa to europe so if we don't wake up if we don't stop sharing and if we don't become the center and become

monsters again of our own house if we don't again be in charge of our front all we will cease to exist i'm not exaggerating that if you look at the numbers that the end of the day we are facing today an extra stench of problem worse than any economical problem we have ever faced an existential problem whether we will exist or not at the end of this century if we don't start by defining our borders and controlling and deciding ourselves who we let into our house and who should leave our house as any normal citizens also have people looking at job program to date they have these sighting in our own homes in all of rush hour anywhere else in the world who to let in the house and who when people are guest to leave the house we are not doing that in most of the european countries today we only know the bolasie of open borders and at the end of the day it will not be our house anymore knowing

closing this. then zone actually destroy the european union well in the for me that would not be a bad thing because i'm very much against the european union i'm a lot in favor of europe i believe that we should work together with other countries in the continent of europe where we have a common interest for instance in the internal market to fight terrorism to have economical dies i would really want to cooperate but we don't need an institution like the european union where mostly on the elected people like the all the european commission those deciding for the hour the mockery democracies what to do and if you talk about immigration today european union brussels is in charge of our immigration rules and the national capitals the national governments not anymore they have transferred most of the immigration policies to brussels

so we are not in charge of our own front door anymore so it would be a good thing instead of a bad thing if were to erode not your rope but the institution called the european union has said that hysterical was a phobia rains and you're a ban in the netherlands why is that i mean does europe have enough problems without this being from top to. well you know i see a terrible thing happening in most of the european countries on the one hand they criticize the american administration they make fun of mr trump and love defending miss the from all the things he does but there is only criticism ninety nine percent of the politicians criticized one of the superpowers in the world the united states of america on the other hand the same politicians criticize another superpower in the world called the russian federation and i think that is very unwise that it's very unwise from

a geo political point of view that is fair even wise from an economical but in the few because i believe we need both we need to have a friendship with the russian federation and we need to have a twenty let that friendship as you rope as the european countries with the united states of america and indeed today you see that almost it's almost a trend in europe to criticize the russian federation to make them responsible for almost everything that goes wrong and i think that's very bad or not only we cannot afford it but often it's also not substantial ice that of course i also have criticism towards both russia and the united states that we have and it's in our own interest and we have a loving common as well with russia to become more allies than enemies and you said that if you want to create an alternative a phobia what is it going to be like i mean how do you make this alternative

appealing to the political elites. well you know first also among allies you have to be able to criticize each other us as friends when it's needed and of course when it comes for instance at the cooperation with the whole process of this terrible terrorist they get back because my dutch fellow countrymen when it comes to shutting down of the plane i made seventeen out of things there was a lot of criticism all asking for cooperation also goes to russia but we also have so much in common with russia on other aspects we have the same kind of culture we are christians a little big pot of russian is russian orthodox christian we have the same problems often when it comes to the future of immigration we both had that experience when it comes to terrorism also in russia whether it's a must go or what happened in chechnya and the boss we had in

a similar way the same kind of experience so what i believe is that we should not only criticize but we should cooperate and i'm very happy to have been invited by the russian and best of the in the russian parliament the duma to visit russia in the beginning of next year to meet people from your government from the russian government from the russian parliament and also perhaps to have critical remarks against one another but also to get a better understanding russia is not our enemy i believe that russia is an ally and we should invest in better relations so the media has been calling it a debt donald trump i don't know if you like that comparison or not what do you make of it the failure of many things in common with american president. i have also aspects i have respect for mr from a lot of the aspects i don't have respect for what he does i still believe that if

i would have been in america which i am not i would have rather i would also have voted for mr trump and not for mrs clinton but hey i'm not an american i'm a dutchman and i'm responsible for the by the seat of my country no today in opposition and so i'm not to be compared with what i believe and what the strength is of both missed the trauma but also miss the putin is that they all believe that the interest of down own country goes first mr putin goes for russia first for the first interest of the russian people a missile trim in his own way does that for the united states of america and i wish i wish in your rope in my own country the netherlands we had a leader we had a prime minister who are like mr crimble mr putin would say hollande first of all europe not the european union but europe first and we don't have that i want to talk a bit about relation to the united states chancellor merkel thinks that e.u.

has to rely on itself from now on as the partnership between the united states and europe is cracking under president trump do you see a reliable partner in the current administration. no you know i don't think that's that bad and i even believe that european politicians use it they misuse it they misuse and they call for a so called worse relations ship with the united states of america they complain about a better relation with the russian federation only to be able to say to their people that we have to get more european union the globe please don't be fooled by the politicians as mrs merkel or mr mccaughan the president of france who says we need to beget a stronger europe today we get even a european army i don't want

a european army we don't need a european army it's all the politicians will make people afraid that we have better relations with russia better relations with the united states only to enforce more super nationalism in brussels and the european union that is the real reason and that is something i don't subscribe to so mr were the last year during the obama years followed american policy has closely but now that there's a difference of opinion as was trying to think the u.s. will learn its influence over here up. i think that america is an important ally to europe and i think that the american people are friends as the russian people should be but of course different administrations and i think that even though one might criticize or applaud some of the measures the american administration makes that the end of the day we cannot afford to have

either better relations with both america and with russia and i think that it would be very irresponsible as many politicians do to criticize only the american on the russian administration america is an important ally mr trump is the president of an important country as mr putin is a president of an important country and we should have those relations with both of them but there were other stink you for being with us today were talking to heritage will durst later off the dutch party for freedom discussing the pressing challenges here is facing today that set for this edition a selfie and co i will see you next time. thanks so much.

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