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greetings and salutations so what if i told you that three congressmen including a senate majority leader quietly colluded with an aerospace billionaire to create a secret department inside the pentagon whose sole purpose was to study document and investigate an identified flying objects yes you oppose. you would probably call me a conspiracy theorist you call me a crazy whack a doodle why am i listening to tie anymore he's gone off the deep bed well guess what i really hate to let all you haters down but was what but what was once conspiracy theory is now can see as the pentagon has admitted now can guess the pentagon has admitted now confirmed that it hasn't dede been investigating you up close called the advanced aerospace threat identification program and budgeted annually around twenty two million dollars from two thousand and seven to two thousand and twelve the program was run according the new york times by

a military intelligence official luis elizondo on the fifth floor of the pentagon sebring yes i said the new york times post this is mainstream media and alternative media covering this elizondo recently resigned in protest after running the operation for seventy years and a copy of a letter obtained by the washington post elizabeth dole wrote to depend secretary james madison that you oppose. that saving despite every overwhelming evidence that both the classified and unclassified levels certain individuals in the defense department remain staunchly opposed to further research on what could be a tactical threat to our pilots sailors and soldiers and perhaps even the next essential threat to our national security now these revelations along with the two videos that the former. military intelligence officer released has revealed that the truth ladies and gentlemen is indeed out there and we definitely need to be watching the skies.

over to you it looks like real with this one. analyzing the plot of. the day like you know i got. this. week so i. don't remember watching the harks i am tired rover i'm sure i'm sad in a while as i'm johnstone. joining us to discuss that this today is american engineer former nasa astronaut entrepreneur motivational speaker and engineering consultant the wright childhood thank you so much for joining us today right. oh my pleasure well it's a pretty exciting day and i want to talk a little story forward about the actual videos themselves and that is you as

someone who spent your career around aviation's aviation and physics and the physics of aviation and what humans are capable of what is it about how these unknown objects in these videos are moving that makes the aircraft so on identifiable. yeah i've only seen the video on the on the news outlet sand it appears to be an object that is flying in a way that normal aircraft don't fly however i wouldn't be quick to ascribe it to any kind of an extraterrestrial vehicle or anything like that as an astronaut i've seen plenty of things that looked odd at the moment and all of those things were later explained as either manmade or natural phenomena and you know i think several astronauts maybe eaters have seen similar things and and we can give examples of some of those what are some of the things that might make that i mean what are the things that could have made who could that can move like that. well it's hard to

say you know it could be a trick played by the lighting could be any number of things i can tell you about an example on my second space mission and we were told by the mission control center to look down towards florida because we might be able to see a rocket launch launching a satellite and we couldn't actually see the rocket but suddenly the whole horizon lit up in all all the colors of the rainbow and that was because at the third stage the spent third stage was venting its residual fuel into space once the fuel hit the cold vacuum of space it turned into crystals into little prisms and all the sunlight passing through all those thousands of little prisms turned the entire horizon into a rainbow and so if we had been warned in that scene that boy i don't know what we might have done it was so are you saying that you don't believe any of the u.f.o. or anomalous aerial vehicle fight against our action that i'm an anomaly it's what i think the sightings themselves are legitimate but i think they're probably

reasonable explanations and it's not really it's so much extraterrestrial now i you know just give it you know i gave you that example there are several others that i could tell you about from my experiences in space where we might have thought we saw u.f.o.'s but we really didn't and you know my belief is that there is life out there but i don't believe we've been visited because the distances are so vast the nearest star that might even have a chance of having a planet with the right temperature to support life as we know it is several light years away so traveling at the speed of light which we obviously can't do it would take at least several years to come one way and more likely the distance of the universe are so vast that you know you might expect earth life planets to be hundreds of millions or more light years away so i think that the life is out there but i don't think we'll ever find each other and i have a hard time believing that they found us so far as you're concerned most of the claims of anomalous aerial vehicles have been spotted have been valid evan.

verified as being something that could be explained there are not many remaining stories or vehicles that are still in an identified in your opinion. well there you know a lot of these sightings i would bet i don't know because you know i'm not in that business but i would bet there are classified aircraft programs you know advanced aircraft programs of the general public doesn't know about and you know pilots might happen upon one of these being going through a flight test and it would certainly seem strange there are stories in the n. one nine hundred sixty s. and one nine hundred seventy s. opposed jets high altitude post classified experiments of these hypersonic aircraft that were cited by pilots and astronauts and so it's a you know it's hard to say exactly what they might be but i would i would bet that there is some kind of logical explanation for them and you know i think the real question is why why are we why did the u.s. government spend twenty two million dollars looking at this certainly the cia the air force is already looking at aerial threats it's clear you know twenty two

million dollars may not seem like a lot of money to lawmakers seems like a lot of money to me and that's actually the next question i kind of want to ask you is you know do you believe that the military or other government agencies should be investigating you know claims of whack a better term when identified you were gone with some where were you one wants to believe they're well i think the main thing is that i think they're already doing that you know any time there's some anomaly or something something that may be a threat i'm sure that the c.a.a. in the air force and other agencies are already looking into those things so i'm a little puzzled why you know why one senator would hire you know your mark twenty two million dollars to have another group go and probably duplicate what is already being done it's very interesting i want to ask you this because i think this search while i think it's hard for people to understand the value twenty three million dollars a lot of money and there is a lot of research being done that i think could have probably been better done by universities and that i understand the secrecy but that secrecy sort of. it is the

exact opposite of what you need in astrobiology or in this search for this life for a search it's such a multi-disciplinary you have to know about a strong astronomy and physics and all of these things and one of the things about that science is that it brings us together whether we find light if all the sciences work together and it unifies us and we tend to discover brilliant things but help humanity do you think this kind of stuff should just be more in the open in that way that we look at it as not as will be will we ever meet that goal but what we can do along the way. yes in principle absolutely agree with you i think there's a in research especially you need openness and frank exchange of ideas and that's why universities around the world are set up the way they are so that you can share data you can share information at conferences and to publish papers and you know in this case i'm guessing i don't know i'm guessing that maybe some of the videos are being remain classified because it probably is showing some kind of

a classified program of some advanced aircraft that the military doesn't want to show the general public here you know so but in principle i do agree with you absolutely thank you so much for joining us today there's a lot i mean there's no way we're going to be able to i'm shocked that you didn't tell me that you thought it was aliens that's great. for helping us sort of work that out we look forward to talking more about this step as as it goes as we move forward with more i guess disclosure in this way find out nasa astronaut entrepreneur motivational speaker the right track thank you so much. thank you my pleasure. so there was a sting so here we are you know sort of a disclosure moment that you we didn't think we were going to have no i don't want to kick it off by saying you know the suburbs behind this were harry reid stevenson the noise from hawaii what's interesting is ted stevens was also the guy who got

the funding for harp right. and sean you and i both through conspiracy theory not only investigated har but we this with bigelow is the money there are a lot of sky and re in this program this is basically what you and i were hunting down in twenty one twenty two zero is the exact same time for their audience programs when i approach below at the conference they said can we talk about what you're actually doing at skinwalker which is one of the locations where they're doing experiments and tests about base and trying to figure out what is going on as far as interdimensional are promo anomaly he said i can't i will never discuss i'll never disclose this we said directly to me and now i understand why he was basically getting he's working in collaboration with very secretive projects you know and you know we look at me where i said what do you guys think about this because when you look at these the amount of money it's twenty two million dollars which are you going to get in your area right here twenty five million great essentially as you are said to double check the work why why are we spending you know twenty two million dollars a year on a private lining the pockets of

a private industry when we have a much bigger infrastructure between universities private space and i think the secrecy aspect of it because if you you know i mean you're not going to you if you don't want everyone else to know about it then you don't want then you're going to hide it one little private area plus big low was a big contributor to read like i'm sure that you know he already had expertise because he'd been spending money on this before and i'm sure he approached reed you know really hey let's give it to this guy he's an alien not he loves this stuff there's a lot of there's a lot it's going on that you're living in essentially the hundred millions that we're talking about is probably a drop in the bucket as far as the overall secret space program that has been discussed and described elsewhere so i think that when it comes to like where that money went it was a small it was a token basically as far as what bigelow was particularly doing in nevada best even the whole breath of it was there of course before into so harry reid was asked by the new york times about this and he said why why it was a secret and what he said was quote this is so-called black. ronnie stevens knows

about it anyone knows about it but that was it and that's how we wanted it so here is harry and made it not only that he got twenty million dollars a year to these private group to do something which was essentially funneled through the president all through the pentagon and the second part of that is that he just didn't read it but there is dark money that two people can just twenty two million dollars a year but just the little bit ourselves doesn't know it himself had said the eighty's that he believed there existed a shadowy government with its own air force its own navy its own fundraiser and it is a much more that's back and a lot more to discuss and a lot more to disclose all right as we're going to record watchers don't forget to let us know what your pick of the topics we cover the facebook and twitter sphere for shows that are two dot com coming up we present the first of some of our top segments interviews and stories from the last year of watching log stay true.

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a year of watching with some of our favorite interviews that mintz and news stories interview with journalist david perry and joy. with steadily building attention to the national problem of police brutality against african-americans related but very distinct issue has gone largely under the radar and that's the extreme risk posed to physically or developmentally disabled americans and encounters with the police as reported by david perry in the nation last week saw four murders of likely disabled americans and they can't police whether it be the tragic shooting death of sanchez a deaf oklahoma city man shot in front of his own home for not understanding police commands or the shooting of scouts clinically depressed and suicidal college student who approach police with nothing but a small utility tool screaming shoot me no matter how you slice it there is clearly something very troubling about our relationship between many of our nation's law enforcement officers and anybody who is not white silent and conservatively dressed

to explore this question further we are joined today by historian and journalist david perry welcome david. thank you so much for having me. in your in your recent article you know the weeks like this are not uncommon but the circumstances of some of these incidents incidents are finally you know kind of alarming enough to attract media attention for example in the magriel sanchez case you mention that the victims and neighbors actually yelled at the police officers that sanchez is deaf and can't understand their commands you know would you look at that it's hard to see how you avoid prosecution one has that kind of evidence saying that look you were law enforcement screwed up what is the this case. as far as i know it's still in the investigation stage i have to say that i am never especially optimistic about any police officer being prosecuted let alone

convict. because we've just seen too often that in quite agree just cases where there was evidence i'm thinking of walter scott of planting planting a weapon or the situation i'm in minneapolis right now the killing of philanthropist steele where there's good video evidence about the police officer acting in correctly when possibly illegally but it's still very hard to move to a conviction. the case of scout schultz at georgia tech is equally disturbing and on a whole different way scholz had as he said had tried to commit suicide in the past and left it at home before making a nine long call. reporting a man with a gun a knife and when the campus police arrive salts shouted shoot me i mean if that isn't a red flag that someone that this is an issue a mental health situation are someone having a breakdown that they're not making these decisions they shot and killed an unarmed student the police officers the defense now appears to be that he didn't receive

crisis intervention trading shouldn't that be i mean they are literally the people that are called in a crisis there how shouldn't that be a commonsense requirement not just for especially college campus police but police in general. so there's a couple different things here that i think we need to tease out a little bit these calls where you have someone who is armed or allegedly armed and in a mental health crisis they are difficult calls and one of the things that i wanted to point out in my nation article is that we might look at individual cases and say that this is more or less a situation where we would definitely want to see prosecution. case looks looks pretty bad but just to note that this happens all the time and i wrote in my nation article that it was four but by the time my piece was actually alive i knew that it was in fact nine of fourteen people killed by police last. we were disabled in lots

of different ways sometimes the disability very much related to the situation as with model sanchez sometimes less so sometimes and when more than one case there does seem to have been a loaded firearm which is a situation where most people would understand why the police used force although we can talk about the limitations there too and in other cases as with scout schultes you know there was a closed utility knife as far as crisis intervention training it's a fine training and it tends to be the thing that gets called for whenever whenever a story like scout schultz's killing gets reported and gets some media attention and i've actually traveled around to various crisis intervention trainings in the country i've sat through it there's nothing especially wrong with it but the real solution first of all costs money and i'd like to see more resources poured into communities poured into non policing mental health response and supporting the work

of community groups and community leaders but just in general we've got to get the police out of out of being the first responder for mental health calls as much as possible now you know i like to think through these situations very seriously and from a kind of non ideological perspective and say well if there's a nine one one call that there's a person with a gun it's going to be hard to get the police out of that specific call but even there they could practice restraint you know police are trained in i like to call it the cult of compliance but the police the police language they're trained in something called ask tell make which is you ask someone to do something then you tell them to do it and then you make it. in a situation as with scout schultes where they were in a crisis ask tell make is just asking them to either be normal or be killed it's putting them in a situation where there's no outcome in which the police aren't going to use lethal force you know i like the point you made that you know we need a little less intrusion of the use of our laws. that we had to kind of store

allowing you know going back to you know communities taking care of their own especially when it comes to the you know those who are mentally you know handicapped or mentally ill and in situations like these you know i also wonder is the other problem too that we've seen kind of a drop in actual police academy where you know you actually have you know police would not to get to the training thing again but like i don't see as many police academies i don't see as many you know proper actual training for police from beginning to end as if you know that's going to be their lives work it's more like we got the law degree and you have this and you could pass the physical you know i mean what is there is some of the breakdown as to. you know i think we could in any given case kind of dig into the training issue again i i have to say i'm very skeptical that the solution is ever to pour more resources into police and i just moved to minneapolis from chicago and chicago right now there's i think it's an

eighty three million dollars police academy that rahm emanuel wants to build while they're shutting down schools i think in the long run building schools rather than police academies is the way to go what i would like to see is is decriminalizing noncompliance activists in the community people who have been working on this much longer than i have i think it has been under reported informal journalism but let's be clear that that there are activists who have been very aware of this for decades they like to talk about decriminalizing disability decriminalizing mental illness decriminalizing homelessness decriminalizing noncompliance every officer is trained from the ground up to take control of a situation and that puts people who are in any way non-compliant any way non-typical at risk there are cops who look at things differently they talk about for example stabilizing a situation well that's a that's a core philosophy and that's not about an expensive new training program. we're

building an eighty million dollars police academy that's about just fundamental basics of what we think police should be doing in american society those are also important and i want to thank you for making those is very very good. what's your into and i would like to know what your take is on the uncertain proposals because i've read some of the other things which is the idea of having a database of people with mental illness developmentally disabled that police could have access to or so before they go on a call they can check to see if someone's on this list i mean aside i guess it could be effective from personal standpoint i just have a lot of concerns that it crosses lines when it comes to not just privacy but personal dignity because if you understand how many people have even severe depression who are go to work every day and function and are are some i normal people is everyone going to be on this list and how dangerous is that so what do you think about that as a policy the idea of sort of registering people you know i i am i am

strongly opposed to using registration as a tool to stop police from killing disabled people and i'm certainly joined by that again by people who've been working on this much longer particularly you could look to to leave the lewis who in the group heard that focuses in particular on deafness in prison and i quoted rebecca coakley who is a former executive director of the national council of disability and now at the center for american progress who called it the mutant registration act that the minute you create a database of vulnerable people what else will that database be used for and i i have to say i get the a get the impulse so i am the father of a boy with down syndrome and in fact we do make sure that at age ten the police are aware of him so that if he leaves the house we have a better chance of him being brought to our house and that was

a very hard decision. to make but we can't have so as a parent i understand the impulse i have seen people propose well if you're if you're autistic just wear a bright yellow shirt and then everyone will know you're autistic you know that's just going to reinforce stigma the solution to police not killing people with disabilities is for police to not kill people with disabilities and the method is for me is to focus on this issue of decriminalising noncompliance i think i think that's a really good really good point you made there we've got about a minute left so i just want to ask you know what you know what what should people do in their communities to help get to what you're talking about go about a minute left. yeah i would focus on talking to local police trainers and talking to police chiefs police agencies about about how to not respond to someone not immediately behaving orders by resorting to lethal force right away to ask your ask your police your local police authorities to look at

some best practices that are being proposed to people focusing on restraint people focusing on patients people focusing on investing time and space just one quick example in milwaukee not long after a black disabled homeless man was killed two officers encountered a man covered in blood holding a butcher knife while they would have legally be within their rights to shoot him but not wanting to cause an incident when he took a step forward they took a step back when he to right up forward they started putting the police car between him and them they did everything they could to bring time and space of obstacles into the encounter to try to save his life and that's the philosophy i'd like to see every most of the way all right thank you so much david perry journalist and historian thank you thank you so much thank you. the movies make it seem as if the secrets of the prehistoric earth are just waiting around for us to discover. and in this instance they would be right the recent discovery by oxford university's museum of natural history research fellow ricardo went to is the first direct

evidence that prehistoric takes said on feathered dinosaurs this completely change the prevailing theory that they only found on a mammals and reptiles and another first of its kind the discovery broke the wall between private collectors and science the private collectors obtained the ninety nine million year old samples with the number of pieces of amber that have been found and mine and my and mark they then gave them to set aside just for study and even donated some of the pieces to the american museum of natural history in new york even more remarkable if it's possible they found an entirely new species of tick in that amber called dyken croton dracula or dracula was terrible tech no plans yet to use the blood to clone a herd of dinosaur board birds mainly because humans don't have the techniques to strike d.n.a. from the text but never forget that the discoveries of today could be life saving dinosaur making technology from our troops ready but you look for where you want to

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