you know if these smaller people can even compete in the market and are on the side you know i just wanted to bring up that you know going back to something that scott said earlier isn't it ironic or isn't it really not really that surprising that we would give up you know forgive for and access to our internet infrastructure in the ninety's under the clintons is that like follow a pattern that we wound up seeing going to she was secretary of a different topic and i'd like it i'd like it that's a good one they're ok all right you know scott you know what doesn't it doesn't. there's always patterns with that. people you know scott you know. ok we just heard from the you know there's a lot of very small i a speech but you know what it's really almost a monopoly like environment it's the same thing with facebook at the same thing with google here is another thing i'm concerned is more and more concentration and now it looks like the f.c.c. reports to the eye of speeds that's what it looks like after this ruling here it is

and you know shedding responsibility i mean they have to have f.c.c. is supposed to make sure that people have access to broadband ok i mean on the on the on the very top of their responsibilities. you know and so i wonder looking at you know shouldn't they be these big companies be broken up and we had standard oil we had other major companies that were broken up i mean it seems to me there's too much concentration of power too much concentration of money and it's bad for the marketplace and for consumers go ahead scott. well they've tried that they did break up ma bell bell was broken up and then read. a actually at war divorce they remarried under a didn't see and all the all the bells came back together they also tried that with the seal ex and they a lot of people did make some decent money but obviously those have been all basically gobble back up they did the same thing in the cable industry those all started out very local and you had advance newhouse one of the ones early on here

in the florida area but they've also the time warner isn't the individuals that own the backbone impose structure you know it's very similar like you brought up with standard oil they own the railway system that was transporting the oil and that's how they control the industry well the same thing goes for the backbone infrastructure for the internet that is owned by a very small select group of people who are controlling that transport on those backbone infrastructures and you know that infrastructure is very easily managed you look at the kinds of inner connect that they have you know each single fiber will do ten gigabit of. bandwidth and they have tons of single mode fiber polled where they need it and they can always pull more so there's not a problem with the bandwidth issue i think what it comes down to is like you say with rural areas and individuals i live in a neighborhood for example that hasn't been upgraded for the telecom industry so i can only get seven megabit to my house but on the cable side i can get one hundred

megabit to my house which is plenty for these days i mean there's plenty of transport to my home at this point seven megabit i would be challenged i mean obviously i can't stream as well across that is the quality of services good get from my my cable provider absolutely not when i go out to cody and other places obviously the origination point point will determine where the band with quality is going to be so i can't get as good they're investing in five g. they're going to make everything wireless they're actually going to put the wires out of business in the neighborhood by basically installing stuff on flowers and gaming schedule is moving in a different direction julio i mean we could get kind of an internet apartheid in the us. if this is what it's leading to. dawdle think. of the sara lee think it's going to i don't know listen i think that now it's going to be a little bit more competitive i think you know the smaller companies or even if they wanted to combine and band together perhaps and you know go and fight the big

machine let's say you know like i said it's better to not have an environment where the monopoly just gets more powerful and that's basically what net neutrality did i mean if you look at it it's in the billions of dollars of lost investment you know and all the studies that came out and granted people you know complained about the studies because they were funded by you know the i s p's but. you know at this point let's talk about what more money see what money can do here scott you know i mean. i looked at some sellers came from these i as peace lobbying congress they landed their pen and paper and said don't you worry we'll take care of that bill for you ok i mean i looked at the list of everyone taking money that's remarkably bipartisan probably the only bipartisan thing i've seen lately people taking money from the eye of peace let me go to let me go to scott and they will go to julio go ahead scott well absolutely i mean obviously who you know and who you pay off you

know we do live in a country of the history of the meyer lansky the history of the lucky luciano those just like truman was bought and sold by the mob we have our current real estate mobster in chief who has also been in bed with the mob for several decades that also you know this is a problem in the united states you know buying and selling politicians is not a new game they've been bought and sold on both sides of the aisle for quite some time by different interest groups and obviously that neutrality did not hurt anything from a business perspective it's creating another false business model just like enron and this is what we're up against you know up against individuals who are you know building an industry based upon not creating anything but going towards a service model bit saluted charges for something that is unnecessary to charge for who you are dissenting again on the program go ahead. you know what i was going to say listen when i before he became you know involved with the f.c.c.

he was basically working with a group that was very anti net neutrality back in twenty fifteen and it was a group made up of the smaller piece you're not really getting the. stuff so much from the big dogs you know because they're the ones that are a profit up by this type of you know all overlapping unnecessary legislation or regulation rather they only really hurts their competitors you know so it may be if they have to go through a couple extra hoops they don't mind doing it because they can afford to do it is so long as it crushes their competition and they never have to worry about not being on top and that's the issue here ok well scott i mean i again i mean we're kind of looking at it from different points of view here because i see you know it's not all that can pet a tip here i mean what's competitive is their services and you know they will

compete the have different services and and and content here but i mean we're looking at you know i know there are a lot of biased piece but you know there's a few elephants in the room and everything else is very very marginalized and it seems to me the f.c.c. is again walking back it's going in the wrong direction because i don't see that these smaller guys are going to be protected i mean keep blowing though ok ok well that's good but if they go make sure but again going back to the beginning of the program if everybody has access ok and i don't see that happening again i see a step back where people go to get really crappy service and you have to pay a lot of money for it that's not good again everyone should have access to broadband everybody should have access to water and air to go ahead scott. wall it's a broad view on the when it comes to the smaller eyes are you going to the or it's really not a lot of the smaller species were a lot of the smaller pieces were against net neutrality because it took a lot for them to the deploy their infrastructure you know they couldn't keep up

and they had to rent space in order to provide the quality of service that people were demanding and they have to rent space from the big guys and it's not cheap i mean they they're renting quality and they're in their colocation centers and they'd like to have their own colocation centers and have their own infrastructure and when the smaller guys do get together and i don't blame them they don't want to have the same demands put on them by net neutrality which i understand that they can afford it and that the same time they're not going to win this game they're just going to be gobbled up as soon as they get enough customers anyway so the fact is is that this is the status quo in american capitalism that you see and this is how it's always been it is i don't think it's going to change much with the f.c.c. ruling i think the most interesting thing here that everybody is missing is that this is a legality issue this is how the speech will legally block content that they don't want on there to let networks they will legally block and throttle back things that they don't want to prioritize on their network. other it's

a lot of the supporters of net neutrality say going to go to court what are their chances of winning all right well listen i want to bring that up from the legality issue you know forget that neutrality there was a decision recently between two software companies enigma software and malware bytes it's one of my columns up on newsmax where an interpretation of the communications decency act actually allowed one company legally to engage in a torturous interference against a competitor malware bytes went after a unfairly and basically it were protected by the communications decency act so whether or not we have net neutrality protecting us or not these i s p. you can go ahead and do that and then just have coverage under that law until it's a piece of legislation is actually a mistake in the way it was written which i pointed out in my column but they would have protection under the communications decency act even if net neutrality is not

there ok we'll return through the courts ok i want to ask maybe scott real quickly and then maybe scott can finish up what about the quote the in the court. record that i don't why do why i don't want me to trial and so i'm fine with this i mean it's going to go back to the way it was and we got last few seconds go ahead scott ok so you've had several judges speak out against it already. in support of that to trial it also you had governors actually supported that neutrality certainly a good lawyer knows the law but a great lawyer knows the judge so is the relationships with anything that is for the people on florida good and that will be the case of that and there's a huge area and i'm sorry well that's that's the best ending on this program in a very long time that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guess in new york and in tampa and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. you next time you remember last time.

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