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the context has been difficult this year for refugees generally globally i think in two thousand and fourteen fifteen and maybe into sixteen there was a big outpouring of public support across the world i would say certainly across the western wall in support of refugees because of the syria situation and particularly if you remember the little three year old syrian boy i learned curdie who washed up on a beach in turkey and that gave a huge impetus to fund raising but also. resettlement and general support for refugees in the west of course we're now a little way down the line since then the syria situation although there's still a war has has changed somewhat we won't get credit donald trump would stop the funding for islamist groups britain was funding them as well to overthrow the government of us good job take some of the credit in terms of the causes of the refugee situation in syria well there's still over five million refugees in neighboring countries to syria so there's still an enormous refugee problem those
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refugees who are in turkey in lebanon on in jordan egypt or a couple of other countries are in an incredibly vulnerable situation the majority of them want to go home but the conditions are not right for them to go at the moment until there is really sustained peace in syria those refugee it won't be safe for those refugees to go home and just vitally i know that it's a separate agency and row over the palestinians in terms of news and your just get this news out of what you experience on the ground. thousands of refugees hundreds of thousands of refugees ironic that when we heard about atrocity the murder of a british diplomat in beirut but we didn't hear that there a refugee camps in beirut say no i mean it's been going on for years and years can go to countries just tell you look at this going to go on forever that's right i mean the palestinian refugee situation has being as you said on. for decades and
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decades now. we have something like twenty two and a half million refugees. but there are also five million refugees approximately a palestinian so damn who's to say that the situation isn't going to end up like that in bangladesh in those camps well at the moment the two countries involved. try to negotiate some kind of arrangement or agreement for the repatriation we're saying that that has to involve ourselves units and has to meet certain criteria certainly certainly in terms of being fallen tree and that it's done in dignity and in security and that there is something tangible and solid for the people to go back to and we're not near that situation yet the people have very recently been displaced and most of them who i met anyway recently said that they would not be going back until there was some kind of guarantee of security and stability and that this won't happen again because the fear on the faces of the people in that i
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think shock on the one side we just hear about the deal i think we should all control and trauma. where the main situation is this is only really several months and since this is happened that is all the thank you thank you after the break what's the difference between the seventy's and the twenty ten years when it comes to revolutionary socialism not much if you listen to street fighting a memoir of the one nine hundred seventy s. by socialist firebrand former u.k. labor m.p. george galloway i'm from the headlines legations of dog carts are the white helmets in syria and suggestions of actions by the brits in iraq. when you don't. see. what they need not. only ted's. left alone.
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said. no servant is nasty that. you speak french. while that's a. busy signal to discourse. about it under the rhythm i did a lot of i didn't know me my. dismissal but you know me you must be still flock. of slaves feel compelled to. be a dozen i guess you know some of them now for almost anything beloved about
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isn't only about what happens on the pitch put the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the superman each kill the narrowness and spending two hundred twenty million on one player. so it's an experience like nothing else i want to because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful game played great so one more chance for. and takes this minute. welcome back to years ago this week britain's last deep coal mine was shut down a legacy of margaret thatcher's war with the british trade union movement as she replaced u.k. source of energy with imports of fossil fuels from minors many of them children of u.s. backed developing countries like colombia the anniversary comes as the entire near liberal framework built by successive tory and so-called labor governments faces
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its greatest threat yet they have jeremy corbyn and the largest labor movement in western europe one longtime comrade of corbin's is the former labor m.p. and leader of the you k. respect party george galloway his entire life has been dedicated to the rights of the dispossessed all around the world and george who hosts r.t. sputnik orbiting the world has just released a new audiobook street fighting a memoir of the one nine hundred seventy soon to be available by our order will dot com he joins me now george welcome back to going underground is a pleasure the near liberals the blairites in corbin's party the mainstream media they all say the seventy's is something we used to club jeremy corbyn odds on favorite to be the next prime minister over the head with why in your latest work are you reviving the idea of this terrible period well actually it's the tories that have taken us back to the one nine hundred seventy s. a hung parliament minority government dependent on of stuart loyalists vituperative the european union
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a madman in the white house i could go on trust me the course of the seventy's are actually not in germany corbin's policies labor force and one to general elections in one thousand nine hundred ninety four on a manifesto way to the left of germany corbin's for a state bank nationalizing the pharmaceutical industry and so on because they were military dictatorships at the in the seventy's spain comes up again and again in this work as an inspiration to you in terms of its struggle and in terms of your. right yes wasn't might again the c. span for younger viewers is somewhere nice that you go on holiday but in my work out of the referendum yes but in my lifetime it was a brutal fascist dictatorship as was portugal next door as was greece ruled by a joint of cardinals this is all in the one nine hundred seventy s. and all of that was overthrown by popular resistance and mobilisation the seventy's
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was an enormously optimistic period because it seemed like the world was changing in our favor in the favor of people like me on may the first one nine hundred seventy five a tank broke through the gates of the american embassy in saigon as it was called the vietnamese fighters were running up the stairs of the u.s. embassy trying to catch the bottom of the u.s. ambassador's helicopter as he clattered away to safety his paper showering everyone it was truly remarkable the vietnamese people had for not just french imperialism for decades but then american imperialism and defeated them both but again the parallels between now and that period spain of course as catalonia in that situation not a day goes by here in britain that we don't hear about dublin now controlling the future of britain because of rex in negotiations again and again in this memoir island personally its impact on your life and what the british did to and from the
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very youngest years that i can remember my ears and my head and my heart were filled with the stories of british iniquity in. and the one nine hundred seventy s. was the most dreadful decade in just one year almost five hundred people lay dead on the streets of six counties in the north east of the few graustark up as a death toll to say the british population now you'd be talking many many thousands of dead people killed. by part of military activity killed by the state famously bloody sunday in famously when the british part of your regiment shot dead thirteen unarmed demonstrators the bally marf a massacre where a priest weaver hunker chief was shot dead by the very same british part of shoot regiment it was hell on earth in the one nine hundred seventy s.
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and people like me who sympathized with the irish republican cause. being. it could have because you talk about misinformation you mention of course that while the press here were telling us that must be no negotiations they were secret negotiations again not far from here again you walk so again misinformation seem throughout its disinform ation really it's deliberate decision for me at the very time that those of us calling for a political process in the north of on and we're being tarred and feathered traitors in cheney walk in chelsea a minute or two walk from here mrs and. government because she was a minister and his government were actually meeting the leaders of the ira martin mcguinness was very young man he was not long out of his teens he was plucked out of prison the prison camp the long cash internment camp and brought here to chelsea
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imagine the culture shock for him there he was sitting in a plush while this drawing made b.b.c. is telling banning everything there were banners it wasn't just that they were attacking us they were leaning on broadcasters not to broadcast programmes that they made and forbidding some of them from doing so leaning on newspaper proprietors not to report facts about torture and so on that. seeping into the public realm it was a time when it was a time of conflict as is obvious from what i'm saying now conflict. between classes in western countries conflict between western countries and poor eastern and southern countries trying to make their own way in the world and we were winning i suppose that's the point i'm trying to make in this book tries to make so again and again parallels to right now as as the media says jeremy corbyn is flogging old ideologies that are out of place now well they're all the ologies the ideology that
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everyone deserves a roof over their head decent and secure job and protection at work that the health service should be properly funded are old people should not shiver through the winter our children not go to schools hungry in the morning these are old ideas that's true but they're gold ideas and they are ideas that once made britain something and someplace to be and i reckon that the last election showed still a political market for that and if we ignore the sellouts and there are so many in this book of people like tony blair and who knows who else you mentioned something i mean you this is a deeply personal book i have to say and it is very much about your upbringing your . as you're becoming more more politically active you have no time for something cool trotskyites which is a term now being used quite late in mainstream media and he doesn't relate to leon trotsky at all since they were you mean and what people there was a strain in working class politics left wing politics in britain especially in the
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seventy's of trotskyites who i want really much to do with trotsky who was a very important figure in the russian revolution and a great military leader and i have no nothing but respect for him as an individual but his acolytes would always be the impossible lists so if you were on strike for an extra four bob they'd be demanding it should be ten bob and the people fighting for for bob were sellouts and reformists and class traitors or if you were going to have a picket they demand it be a demonstration if it was a demonstration they demand it storm the american. they are stored in the police are always more extreme more impossibly list than the mainstream i'm just going to finish though with i mean big topics that are throughout this book and they both have an inverse of as if this year the importance of palestine for you because of the balfour declaration here and the soviet revolution because for all its flaws you are gaining gaining have to continuously mitigate against when you talk about
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its influence the revolution nine hundred seventeen was so important it turns the world ten days that shook the world as john reid the american journalist wrote in the book the time those ten days of the bolshevik revolution exactly one hundred years ago almost to the week. utterly changed the course of the twentieth century and i believe still shapes the twenty first century because for the first time for all its flaws mistakes crimes it sure another way it was possible that you could run a society in an economy on entirely different lines from which we had been told here in the west was unchangeable and was bill into the bricks of our lives and could never be altered and at the very least that revolution achieved social democracy in the west there would never have been a house there would never have been social security and protection and so on laws passed if it were not for the fear of the soviet union so let's give them some
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support for liberation movements like palestine its support for liberation movements was for me the most important thing vietnam would never have succeeded but for the soviet union cuba would have been overrun in the first weeks of the cuban revolution if not for the existence of the soviet union as for palestine it's never gone out the news i became involved in one thousand nine hundred eighty five i'm still involved as we enter two thousand the dating the palestinians are not much further forward but they have many tens hundreds of millions of more supporters than they did when i started the campaign in ninety seven. the five time you could have fitted all the supporters of the p.l.o. in this studio no trafalgar square wouldn't hold them all of london wouldn't hold them everybody with any sense knows that the injustice suffered by the palestinian people is central to the crisis in the middle east george galloway thank you. well now would be to go through on the week's papers is let me know because you're
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a former liberal democratic member of parliament lembit house of lords today discussing syria not jerusalem lots of violence there was this from the guardian lots of stories coming out of syria as well often the guardian reports how syria's white elements became victims of an online propaganda machine they're blaming you they're not blaming just me well not just you but your but but actually. and others because they're saying that the white helmets have been maligned as being in some way north arius way involved in some skullduggery the guardian has uncovered and i'm quoting now how this counter-narrative is propagated online by a network of anti imperialist activists conspiracy theory to say the worst what we want of more imperialists is most more trolls roll with the support of the russian government that could be you over to the guardian snopes channel four news similar stories a journalist and as a billy who we interviewed on this program who made serious allegations about
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connections between al-qaeda linked groups and the white helmet is quoted in here and i understand she is going to seek some sort of the reply i should just tell you though that we already saw one of the brilliant producers here on going underground talk to a white helmet and what they want to learn two of them are t. should not be reporting this unfounded conspiracy theory as fact one here but it's a problem it's a problem there is clearly a conflicting story about the white helmets now i don't think asian is they're linked to al-qaeda linked groups yeah that's right now i haven't got a political agenda to say this in fact it's a. it's been trouble to just don't report on it when it's all ok let's get our whole thing say that you know when they'll go because it's all positive right artie is a conspiracy that's a conspiracy it's all a conspiracy actually because it doesn't fit the narrative alarming story from the canary which obviously doesn't seem to be a conspiracy because it involves judicial elements in the sultry this is in some ways even more sinister the canary reports high court rules british troops are
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guilty of true despite alleged government attempts a cover up simple version here that the british army were responsible for human rights violations in iraq this is bubbled up a number of times there's been some evidence for this before but the real problem here is you go to war on freedom and human rights and then you violate in the cells that's at the heart of this story action for this is the international criminal court investigating british troops abusing unlawfully killing and that's the point these people don't mess around with conjecture they talk about fact and they identify these facts arguable as well they have to say oh you're against everyone today are you going to go to the press ministry you are the i.c.c. one of the things that is in arguable is president and him changing the politics geopolitics of the philippines and the and the south china sea and usually all we hear about is he's a terrible because he's reputed to join or away from the u.s. but what's this are yes the hero president the headline from c.n.n.
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philippines president detached a says he'll protect g b t community as the lesbian gay and transsexual community are going to be protected by him her a for those who support that but hold on a minute wasn't the who originally said that he was against those rights and he's in the right thing for criticizing the changes were named or whatever the case is identity politics driven companies like c.n.n. are going to find it very difficult to report on this turnaround or what i'm going to say but here is right despite the misery of. trying to change his mind he's changed mine and that's to be celebrated it's an amazing talent around that salt i'm saying could also be to do with politics or getting on with a little trump actually don't know what the total trump stands on this either we are pretty sure how he stands on the. people serving in the other holiday in the philippines them better pick thank you very much. for the show we're back for our
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season finale on saturday the eve of christmas eve when hopefully israeli army chair gas may have cleared from jesus but placed on thankfully and then he would not try social media was he was at eighty one years of the day i go on emma goldman arrived in london represent expanded republicans as the british backed general franco attack on. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies to meet the sales with simple song alone even some company elsewhere though they invite private companies to take over the utilities anybody tell of. been this is. to quote them out of it for you not until the lift bill brought up locals are ready to stand up for the basic human right of access to water it's
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about water but it's also over toward a more it's about to hurt and the redistribution of. debt downwards we want or will. the single most important social equalizer of our time the internet is under grave threat the decision by the federal communications commission essentially gives internet service providers the keys to the internet without net neutrality will be economic opportunity divide only widen for all. how does it feel to be a share of the greatest job in the world it's as close to being a king as any job there is what business model helps to run a prison now we do this do or don't like there's nobody over the case and i don't no one comes anymore we don't have to serve them anymore is. this what they want to
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do that they don't give a damn if you give the charge on that they're actually paying us to put it back into. the louisiana incarceration rate is twice as high as the u.s.n. bridge what she could is behind such success. just do it for you nobody don't need to keep me going to vote for. these ideas is it dangerous to stay here ok thank you as
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