also to be a. iraq tragic society too because we believed in the west's practice our democracy and we thought the same ideals they had for us. sadly soon we recognize that no what the jews and prefer and like for themselves is used against us as a tool of manipulation and who are the key players in undermining afghan democracy because unless they are actually richard holbrooke those are individual un mission in afghanistan to be to go direct yes he was appointed by the united states there robert gates defense secretary there too not that well he was a decent gentleman but the others you mentioned him better i can bury the late. and watch it all and god read there were the tools of the us administration for this purpose. individually have i don't blame them they were serving their

government and any official would do that once instructed to do to take a certain. policy through the united nations office were used very much but there were also individuals within the united nations for example then of the united nations at the time in afghanistan through the present of the seclusion of id who was under a mills pressure but is true up to them and he took. very much under the circumstances a middle ground where you know he is he's retired or he took a middle ground which meant he sided with us. with would rightness. right justice i believe. coming because i'll just stop you there for a quick break more from the former president of afghanistan and bought two of going underground.

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. recently i've had a lot of practice so i can guarantee you that peter schmeichel will be on the best fall since my last will come when that starts or three. thousand zero zero zero zero zero russia. fly strike strike the left left left more left ok stuff that's really good. welcome back where with the former president of afghanistan hamid karzai just on this question you're raising about u.s. involvement in support of isis day if there. is no implication that britain will colluded in any of this we haven't heard that you know because he i mean you did say that the girls used to be able to go to school in helmand you know around with fourteen u.s. soldiers when four thousand british soldiers arrived suddenly no one was safe what

was the british involvement in helmeted did it improve things will get it you know should improve things was it a waste of turn subsequently things went bad and i mean i you know look i have i have studied britain very well i know this country free will it is a tragic arguably colonial history and you are it can be a true wars that we had all of that but that does not blind me to the facts the many aspects of their presence in afghanistan were also very good it. keast the british government was on a source when mistakes happened in they came and told us there were five hundred like civilian the five hundred civilians were killed just by british soldiers a little of that doesn't is that a lot of going to the us military and that is to be condemned to intrude size very strongly which i did at the time but i must be fair there were also. they also told us with something when truong they came to us and said well the spin truong in our troops did this or that so that aspect was also that the us didn't accept general

mcchrystal who was a very fine officer who had come in tell me that the spurs did something has gone wrong and that's why he was quickly removed did you have to see the brad pitt film no i haven't. heard him across haven't seen the film i believe it's a funny movie but i haven't seen it go to tragically funny where did all the money go these billions and billions four billion in twenties the team that went to afghanistan general petraeus the disgraced former head of the cia saying we're going to use money like ammunition in afghanistan and that's what they did exactly like ammunition and sway didn't work. it cost more corruption they were throwing money in. indeed like ammunition through rapid rate. firing money firing guns but. into contracts and subconscious and subcontracts

yes they did that very very much and that was the fundamental cause of. corrupting things like getting us that. they did turn the turn some people into millionaires overnight and then in another part of the country be bombed to be put into total extinction overnight saw that was the conflict because in a country where unicef this week said two hundred thousand children are malnourished yes. yes unfortunately and we don't really get this story obviously told in mainstream media how do you believe that only people like all broken clinton were trying to undermine democracy in afghanistan these are mainstream media you've seen the b.b.c. and c.n.n. i want to be fair to. clinton hillary hillary clinton she was among the the more.

dignified u.s. officials. i could talk to. and all with her. and should all go back and understand we need your facebook for wiki leaks we know they came back. behind our backs i don't know but we did have a very decent relationship and that's what i subscribe to and i when i when i pass judgment on on on on someone so i haven't seen her plotting actually. in a meeting where my official said going to washington just before the elections. the came back and told me that she actually stopped the date holbrooke when he tried to create an interim government in a democratic leadership to superseding the mockers yes just before the election but but i believe she snubbed him and said no that's not the right thing so that there were things that occurred that you respect but then how do you see the relationship

with pakistan you've been vocally critical over that issue of gurney the present president says i guess i will be a high praise who doesn't respond properly to the change well when i see park situation pakistan is a neighbor of ours we have to live together backed by china and the elated by china india and i think the united states more in the past by the united states. but pakistan as a neighbor. there are two two. strong contrasts they had in our views with regard to parks and. when we became refugees after the soviet invasion of afghanistan the pakistani people welcomed us tremendously and believably like brothers and sisters and we lived as if we lived in our own homes in afghanistan and that will continue a very bad as well making for the v.a. back in the in which you get it out that area that carried the welcomed us

tremendously as as refugees but then as backers of the afghan resistance against the the former soviet union them and the americans also. did. the most horrible. activity of trying to weaken the afghan traditional system of our own to weaken our moderation to weaken to weaken our tolerant society and to turn our asian into an extreme tool in their hands against the soviet union for the americans and for their own purposes for pakistan which we resisted which we denounced but which loop would lead to the eleventh which would lead to all other things nine eleven included and the destruction of afghanistan and the bachelor of gas and all that. now. with president trump's announcement of the new strategy for afghanistan and something isha i hope pakistan will recognize. that park some was used by the united states. against

a neighbor. for a purpose that it was not humane in but now. they're doing the same tours pakistan to prevent integration in this region to prevent the economic development of this region do you think china get help them understand their budgets are used to big ai low on the i think the end stand parks that it is an educated enough establishment to set up to recognise this here is a common point between us we don't see the us strategy as helping afghanistan we see it as undermining others through afghanistan and we don't want to be tools in a big game where we gets tipped over for those of others. did the same towards us but we don't want to do the same parks that you want to extend a hand of friendship to parks none of them let's join hands with the region and

solve it ourselves from the deep conspiracy where is the l.a. arabia fit in with all of this do you see it as a source of funding for terror in your country no not no no doing my guys are geographically it actually led to during my government i had had a lot of interaction with the saudi. government they tried their best to help us in the peace process they also understand understood our situation there was a time for the saudis and the americans and some out of countries and boxes did this all of them the same what we did what they did but but during my government the saudis were very helpful they tried their best to help general flynn before he became drones national security advisor and then resigned as national security advisor was on this show saying iran is the big problem echoing perhaps what we're hearing from trump today about the fact that the south pole not at all

not at all. iran has been a tremendous help to afghanistan you know iran is clearly against extremism iran is a country against whom extremism is directed they know it and we know it. so iran is a tremendous help to afghanistan it was in spite of the u.s. presence in afghanistan in spite of the differences that that the intensity of the differences you know that was there between them iran helped afghanistan in an understood u.s. presence in afghanistan and never bothered us because of that and we also short our our our independence and our goodwill and told them that well did you think presidential goni understands that when i go he well when will he must make sure that afghanistan is not used for an american agenda against iran that is what i made sure when my government any afghani government must make sure that afghanistan

is not used by any power against our neighbors but obviously you're you mean the daughter of doesn't seem to understand that he's usually on trial here as an russian dominick donald trump has his own agenda but that's not our agenda. afghan agenda should be different afghan should be peace in our neighborhood in that region and friendship between us and our neighbors and specially between afghanistan and and and and the big powers in that region. without that we can't do much so it's good relations the best relations with our neighbors and for drug shine china. or imperative we must do that britain is obviously supporting trumps surgery and back to this and well i disagree with that britain should not support from search britain should look for peace in afghanistan through two means that all

available in our region if britain doesn't join in join this trump search probably one of the timer you understand was trying to in twenty or seven trying to work out complex negotiations between different communities or tribes and apparently the british. soldiers on the ground rejected your advice about tribal elders and so forth no there was no such thing according to them we'll come under the mclean sees that i don't remember i think britain is one of the countries who that who understands afghan. social complexities very well deserves every early that it is one and three that should not be allowed in south of galahs journey to britain when did he see that i have a date on that particular one but back around the time the notice that they were there in the south of afghanistan and. my advice to britain is very clear on the present trump strategy in afghanistan that britain should opt for. a

nonmilitary approach. and negotiations should be the way forward and britain can help with that because britain is very close to pakistan is it to david miliband then foreign secretary gordon brown at this time rude to you to say please write a letter to the british people to convince britain that british troops are doing good in afghanistan. you're a no no no no no he didn't do that had he asked me i would've written to the to the british people. that would have conveyed my sentiments on the military front to nick davies of nato and the u.s. and allies in afghanistan a lot also conveyed to britain to the mothers of britain. that. the purpose for which they send their sons to afghanistan.