doing is actually trying to create a false equivalence between the deliberate lies of the trump administration and its supporters and the mistakes that are part of being part of a journalist i'm not saying they'll make mistakes i'm not saying this will not think you know united submitted some still not on their heads in every specious premise has double trouble it's not what has gone from i'm not done sir i'm not not that confident when has donald trump admitted that or kodama was born in the united states. no waiting ok let's talk about something out which i like that happen this is very good ultimate good thing else i don't talk about what we're talking about now bring something else up fantastic look i want to give you an example just in i was attacking your absolutely baseless claim you said the problem is forget the fact that this is fake media we have the most lying the most mendacious president there is that's what you said i was addressing that so what do you do when you're losing the argument let's bring up the bursar thing let's change the subject but i

don't know with whom you did a lot of bases listen to a little not what i said what i said is work what i said is listen fucking what i said you're misrepresenting what i said why you're misrepresenting what i said what i said is i don't think very difficult. go ahead eric go ahead go ahead what i said i did not change the subject what i said is the media are not up to the job of covering a president who lies on average six times a day and doesn't care that he's caught lying will just lie every time he's caught lying so they're not that's very difficult to do because you can't fact that every single sentence the president says so they're going to make mistakes there's going to be more mistakes they're going to be serious mistakes that does not take away from the fact that this president is what i say hello good morning our democracy and our media and our media are going to hold a lot of holding that stands between it well in. their head of course we go to put on record it seems to me this really low standards of journalism that's what's this

drawing democracy and the faith in the system that the journalism has to take responsibility for what they do forty seconds patrick before we go to the break go ahead newsflash eric and everybody politicians lie barack obama i'm going to close gitmo with rooms on president and i could get on and on and on on those laws so politicians i was elected i can't you know we love let me finish let me finish sir let me finish her. ok you can expect to make excuses for what you call the fourth estate and sort it's ok for them to what you call make mistakes they're fabricating news stories they're fabricating sources they are literally making up news and putting it out on the cycle there is no evidence of russian collusion eighteen months later there's nothing fake news for eighteen straight months on all the major networks and newspapers that is the fake news crisis it is not all right gentlemen i'm a chance to hear what you go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the state

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welcome to cross like we're all things considered i'm peter bell to remind you we're discussing the state of the media. ok let me go back to eric in new york and i think you would least concede that the liberal mainstream media has it out for trump and i think that's why they're making all of these mistakes because they have a certain goal and anything that they can get their hands on or even make up they're going to employ because they think they're morally correct they think they're doing the right thing i actually believe that they think that they're doing the right thing but what i do what bothers me is what we said in this program is it damages the profession of journalism in the process and the trust people have in the media go ahead eric well first of all i concede nothing you just said to go back to the previous point i happen to have written my doctoral dissertation at

stanford university on presidential lying on the history of present like i published a book called when presidents lie and i'm writing a second book on presidential lying right now for basic books. not all presidents. no one ever told a lie may i finish or it may i finish may i finish. obama well do you and your new like. eric keep going eric keep going. well the example you brought up sir it's not a lie obama said he would close gitmo he tried to close gitmo and congress would lead that's not a law without a waiting that's a failed policy we're still waiting you know and years later finish math you're waiting for obama the thing is i want to know when it's going to close president hillary clinton. benefited from mad finish you have to answer the to answer the moderators question. the liberal quote unquote liberal media are not liberal the

mainstream media is in the business of making money that's why during the campaign donald trump was given billions of dollars in free media with his speeches being carried live his phone calls been carried live where he lied consistently lied about virtually everything he said as again he has told according to the washington post count i believe they have been eric's error and then i think her and this right is a program is about letting me finish well because you're going into the weeds again this program is about professional journalism is we don't need to hear the crickets on these other topics ok i mean birth others and you know all of this is not on the top of what it's about to get a pretty bad at all is one of journalism and they are breaking their bond with the public the polls show it ok let me go to lionel last year c.b.s. news said the president said trump is good for c.b.s. for exactly the same reasons that eric mentioned here it's not about getting the story right it's about the kind of propaganda they want to propagate and make money

off of it that is a disgrace to journalism you should stop calling it journalism then leinil go ahead . this is going to be one of the greatest interviews discussions ever because this fellow doesn't exactly i beg to differ what everybody hates he is the purse sonification of that which we hate prevarication and not admitting which is true and obvious to anybody the issue that peter asked was what do you do about not fake news not bias because we can argue bias all day long but what about when they just get it wrong then they just get about that's the framework mr p.h.d. that's the framework so what this fella does is sort of answering that because he can't answer it he's smart enough to realize i have no insurance let me throw in something about trump being

a liar and that is the reason why the mainstream liberal media is dying it's going to last throes everybody knows it and you sir are exhibit a and i present to the jury that is the world see this is what it's about can't even answer the question all you had to do was just concede that the jew the duty of journalism is just to get it right would it have killed you a fella to say that but you can't do it because you know we i don't know what i do i get what i mean there is some kind of a and man american that he wanted wanted me let me go to patrick here but patrick one of the things that gets going i don't know you like to deal with facts here but unlike the liberal media that makes make things up i mean you know it was seventeen intelligence agencies. it's a fact that the the d.n.c. was hard but the f.b.i. never looked at the servers the d.n.c. didn't allow that what i'm getting at is that you keep hearing on c.n.n.

and this n.b.c. eccentrics they keep repeating the same unsubstantiated. it claims as if it is. a law of gravity and you never hear anybody pushing back there this group think this is exactly what it is it's group think and it's turned into a cult with it really it's a religious cult now they have and anyone that violates it is considered a heretic go ahead patrick like us i suppose for us i will agree with eric that it's not a liberal media exclusively per se that happens to be a kind of a liberal hysterical insurgency right now in the mainstream media but c.n.n. will read straight off of pentagon briefings or state department briefings and the new york times will do the same straight off the party line on certain issues so they really are there to protect the establishment whether that's a liberal or a conservative establishment or military industrial complex establishment you just have to have this hysteria going on the problem with all journalistic standards

have been thrown out the window in the last eighteen months because when it comes to anything russia or trump but especially russia this is much bigger than trumped by the way this is as a geo political scope to it it's tell don't show so the accusations get rolled out but they don't actually have any evidence can out can someone find me one piece of evidence that russia hacked the us elections or even hacked the d.n.c. or colluded or meddled or anything nothing the facebook bought story that everybody ran with from the washington post the new york times that was if you really drill down on that story that was a case of the obama administration colluding with a silicon valley company facebook senator warner from virginia did multiple trips over there to try to extract some story about russian bots finally facebook capitulated and gave him a narrative about all these russian bots purchasing facebook ads it's

a laugh and that dominated the united states mainstream all the networks news cycles for i don't know how long weeks ok that. a fake story that is a fabricated narrative it's designed for a specific political purpose the problem with political journalists and biased partisan journalists and eric i think you unfortunately do fall in to that category is that you're good for the party but you're not really not good for america because you're just you're picking one side and you're letting the people who are singing you're singing your song off the hook every single time that is the problem ok let me go to eric i mean eric you we had david frum from the atlantic the same man that brought us. the w m d's in iraq coined the phrase axis of evil ok and he in the eleven take it was on c.n.n. and he said about this story that the networks got wrong on this e-mail leaks to. the trump campaign he said mistakes are precisely the reason that people should

trust the media. ok try to swallow that it's the process of bringing truth to light i mean this is got to be the most orwellian thing i think i've ever heard in media ok because we're wrong people should trust this what the hell is he talking about. well you know here is david frum's representative but i imagine that you're probably taking that out of context and dully no not at all and if i took it exactly from this i wrote it out and i said it say that ok i'll just dismiss it may i say i was out of contact i'll get it really no yeah probably yes but may i address to c.n.n. which i'm not here to defend i think they do a crappy job but c.n.n. apologized for its mistake when he didn't explain killers you words why you know he made that mistake why he did not explain my point no transparency they demanded from everybody else has a demand it from donald trump but they give their viewers no transparency after

with been doing for eighteen months ok never any better here to defend c i'm not i'm not here i'm not asking you to be their lawyer i don't care what they do i do i hear what they'll do i get a little and we have a radio militant from you have a degree in it right of journalism i think you know what we what kind of responsibilities go along with the profession go ahead jump in go ahead i don't have a degree in journalism you know that's another mistake would have been better and i want to apologize that i had i apologize ok i made a mistake of saying see journal a real journalist get a real journalist do it ok i don't have to carry water for c.n.n. or anybody i don't need one here go ahead lionel. bad pitter bad bad that what could have been done was originally what this fella could have done this fella could have said look we live in a different world right now it's a twenty four seven machine it is runaway train it's this monster it's you got to

feed constantly the days of cronkite the days of being able to sit around in your office and luxuriating till six o'clock and double and triple check that's a part of the problem maybe there's a zealousness maybe there's a part of bias he could have answered that that's that's a real problem because it's the immediacy it's the days of social media it's the fact that citizen civilian journalists and alternative media and foreign media are chomping at the bit are and chomping at the heels of these people i understand now but that could have been done but instead and this is the ball and i hope peter that somehow everybody remembers us and just just takes takes this fella's comment and just says this is the problem it's always trump even when you could have very easily said ok look i make a concession look at problems or no no even then we don't give and change the same thing with russia even though right now we've been talking about this story and not one person in any medium or in the media actively has ever been able to say here is

the best evidence of any kind of collusion or change of the photo whatever even though that's never been done i don't miss a beat and they don't give in and you just keep forward that's the problem and when in doubt when your back is against the wall when you have absolutely nothing ok i'm going to let me jump in and let me let me give let me give allow during the last two on let me give patrick the last word i think one of the interesting things in this information war that's going on is that how the the mainstream media allows itself to be played by trump every single day he's calling the shots they loathe him but he's actually determining the new cycle and they cannot accept that and i think that's one. thing that they need to get their head around go ahead last few seconds patrick go ahead sure whether it's the fake dossier put out by buzz feed and echoed by c.n.n. and all these other sort of fake stories about trump and donald trump has a right to go to twitter at that point and defend himself and i would to anyone

else would probably do the same if they're in his position whether he's a pathological liar and ok i'm patrick i'm not or i'm not i'm very spirited discussion gentlemen but run out of time many thanks to my guests a new york and implement and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. you next time and remember crosstalk rules. all say we have a great team but we need to strengthen before the free world cold and your bets have been a legend to keep it so it's at the back. in

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deescalating the korean conflict hopes for peace in syria but also concerns over america's intentions the russian foreign minister talks exclusively to the biggest global issues of the. coming up to liberation and last week. to report from inside mosul to see the true scope of the battle to recapture the iraqi city it's thought to have cost thousands of lives and left survivors in danger. i just made. this one unexploded so the child was walking around the families that were. could try to play with it touch it and set it off these. were also. the second is to disaster which changed some families forever as they mark a year since losing their loved ones in a russian military plane crash in the black sea. we have had

a lot. of accounts kind. of the mark. that. this is out international live from moscow this twenty fifth of december my name is kevin i was watching today of course if you are celebrating christmas not christmas here but if you are celebrating it very happy christmas from us unfortunately you start with on this day albeit not christmas day of moscow's bad news comes through from. a bus has crashed into the stairway of an underground pedestrian crossing in the last hours place and now just confirming at least five people killed. our accident by the looks of it were but a show you video of the incident a warning you may find it upsetting with just turning around now according to russian media citing security sources the police suspect a technical failure is to blame for what's happened here the driver is reportedly

being detained with sources out in that according to an initial medical examination he was sober emergency services have deployed several helicopters now to try to help over a dozen people who were injured obviously a busy time of day at the moscow mayor's also right at the scene security services also told russian media that this is not being treated as terrorism important to point out it is time really unfortunate action they can see of buses come off the road and that's the video capturing the moment it happened well if you're in that stable at the time we wouldn't stand a chance would you we will we've got a correspondent down of going down there will be hoping to get to him a little bit later it's making his way there now. elsewhere as the dust settles from the operation to liberate the iraqi city of mosul the cost to its residents is becoming painfully clear our senior correspondent laura garza has been to the city to assess the real scale of the civilian tragedy winning isn't always pretty brutal is testament to that it's being almost half

a year since they declared this a victory and it was despite its ugliness they did this than isis but no one mentioned the smell five months on mosul still stinks of death the stench of decaying and decayed bodies. everywhere permeates the old city it's nowhere near as strong as it was back during the summer for obvious reasons but there are still calculus bodies buried and they're all this rubble and no one knows how long it will take to get to all of them. they are everywhere the corpses of isis fighters buried under the wreckage together with civilians women children and exploded bombs shells rockets.

there are still people under the rubble a woman just found her husband under the wreckage but no one can get him out it smells terrible it's smelled even worse nature has done its job but rescue was overwhelmed the shia work required to dig up an entire city is mind boggling there is simply too many corpses. they cleared away the bodies of civilians that they can see but they haven't been able to reach those in the collapsed houses. three or four of our neighboring families came here thinking the area was clear but there were very happy airstrikes there now buried here a recent investigation conducted by the associated press found that approximately ten thousand civilians were killed during the battle of mosul a third of them killed by the u.s. led coalition and iraqi air strikes what they did not account for those still to be

recovered from the rubble. this book alone contains several thousand of their victims i have four or five of these senior health official in mosul province who is forbidden from speaking on camera deep to soften the true scale of what happened and the casualties keep on coming in. here's another little surprise. a kid or even an adult might not know what this is an isis made bomb is ones unexploded so the child is walking around the families that are returning could kick it tried to play with it touch it and set it off these little all over mosul last tuesday three young children were killed when they were playing in the wreckage of a collapsed house all three died when an explosive device or bomb exploded.

every day we got two or three more bodies victims of new explosions. these could be from anything an ice a spooky trap an unexploded iraqi shell or a bomb dropped by the u.s. led coalition months ago official statements on civilian casualties made by the iraqi government the u.s. led coalition even by the u.n. a ridiculously understated but dig a little deeper and you likely stumble on one of the biggest civilian massacres in recent history or i guess do you have from mosul iraq and spoke to harsh to mellow the head of the kurdish human rights watch and asked him whether he expected coalition countries to invest in rebuilding of the city now than. we believe that the humanitarian support force should be in the same level of the military support that they provided for

the. let's say i say combat isis operation. now what we see is much less than those forces are spent what what we see on the ground here we have teams now in mosul in salatin embar in those newly liberated areas. the forces are much less than the needs there are even. most of those families some of them they return and then now they displaced again they've been they came back to the to the tents and to the camp of of displacement . it's just joined us this is twenty fifth of december it's kevin and with you here it r.t. this breaking news story just in from moscow that's coming in the last hour bus has crashed into the a stairwell of an underground pedestrian crossing with police just confirming at least five dead a correspondent you go to an office just literally got the no he got we've got on our site r.t. dot com just living our views as well some latest video in of

a street footage from high up of this bus taking a look at it now it is it seems to start from a standing position there off by itself bizarrely go down this underpass and absolutely bizarre accident what do we know so far what's the scene around you there. well exactly can't you can't really tell what's happening here because the video that you've just shown it clearly shows some very weird picture the bus is at a full stop then it just goes into drive and instead of driving left it goes right hitting the pedestrian crossing the subway crossing which is just behind me just behind that kiosk over there and we can see from from from here we can see that the bus is still there though so many doubts tractor. and so many vehicles here because it is the bus is still there now obviously a lot of ambulances here too because it has been confirmed five people are dead some more than ten have been injured so there are multiple versions of what's

happened none of them confirmed yet of course it could be the bad weather conditions you can see you can see what it is like here i mean the brakes could have the brakes could have stopped working on that bus that's that's why you probably started moving maybe before the driver intended to also we know that the driver has been arrested so we're obviously will get more information about the causes of this horrific tragedy. after the policemen got done working with the driver the police of being quick to point out the they don't believe at this point any terrorism and has been involved here you're hearing that as well. yes yes it is true the police are saying that it is not a terrorist attack they have been very blatant about this again multiple versions it could be mean they are saying reportedly the driver was not drunk because in most schools if you're a bus driver you you tested you are tested before.