tv Cross Talk RT December 27, 2017 3:30pm-4:00pm EST
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according to health experts more than a million russians are in fact it. almost one in a hundred people in russia are diag no state hiv positive. despite a year of increased efforts to tackle the spread of the virus the country is on course to see annual infections pass one hundred thousand again which accounts for almost two thirds of all infections in europe and central asia. world aids day so quite a few depressing headlines in russian like russia's losing the war on. and most countries around the world the number of new cases of hiv is going down the sad truth is here it's going up i went to see the country's top hiv prevention researcher to find out what was going wrong.
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i'm about to enter a lab where the staff work with samples from people diagnosed with a child and who say there is no defeating the virus without their work. that would not move a muscle for quite a long time in five years not nearly enough attention has been paid to the issue of h r v aids there has not been enough funding the war and h.i.v. requires decisive action without it's this academic told me the virus spreads far beyond the two main so-called risk groups drug users and men who have sex with men . from the. move we've lost time that's for sure while health authorities were losing time people known as aids denial lists wasted none online spreading fake h.i.i.
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the news of the next the on russian social networks in blogs and elsewhere online aides to nihilists are clearly ahead of us and that's really dangerous if you refuse therapy an early death is guaranteed we started looking for denial this who were willing to share their thoughts with us finding their social network communities which of thousands of members was easy but arranging an interview were quiet over a week finally one woman who used to refuse therapy a choice that almost cost her her life agreed to talk on condition of anonymity. she asked to be called ileana the ex aids denial list struggled to maintain her composure as she recalled how she was diagnosed with hiv. you're going to go to my new. you know. so not those things that only were your petition to show to system to. even as
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initial treatment had put her health back on track until she met a man who introduced her to the online world of aids denial the d.m. eventually convinced her to give up hiv treatment her desire to get rid of the stigma prevailed over common sense right. now it's just you know when you can. chop an onion or there's a. number. one hundred yards up on your plate you most of all the years of stopping is a forced him choice almost not p. and renewed hiv treatment in a managed to survive unbelievably bad behind her own mistakes. thousands of documents from history appear to have gone missing the buke a national archive removed by civil servants which is a sense of careful let's see what ali you know what kind of documents are we
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talking about here surely these are something that should be looked after carefully but they've disappeared a lot of questions let's answer some. the national archive is a very important resource here especially for people like historians and for journalists it looks after the most important papers relating to the history of the country and the idea here is a perfectly transparent system so once these government files are d. classified anyone over the age of sixteen should be able to go there and to access them but not all of them it turns out some of the files relating to chapters of british history show we say appear to be missing now among the missing files there are papers relating to the full cleanse war there are documents relating to the northern ireland ireland troubles and perhaps most controversially files relating
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to a very famous case called the zinoviev letter that was way back in one thousand nine hundred twenty four they appear to be missing now this was a huge political scandal at the time because m i six almost certainly forged a letter that was leaked to the press that discredited the labor government at the time and resulted in its ultimate downfall now all the missing files are listed as misplaced while on loan to a government department so we've got a situation where there are a number of different government departments under pressure to explain why they have taken these bits of paper but they have failed to give them back now we've asked for a comment from the home office over that is an obvious letter and we've had no response as yet from them we have however heard from the foreign office now the foreign office had misplaced a file relating to a case called the mosque case that was back in one thousand nine hundred seventy
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eight was the shooting of a bulgarian dissident journalist over on waterloo bridge not too far from where i'm sitting now this is what the foreign office had to say about that missing file take a listen. seventeen out of nineteen documents have been recovered and we're sending them back to the national archives we're still searching for the documents that have not yet been accounted for. so an explanation there and clearly efforts being made to shall we say correct what has happened because the public care has a right to access these documents these chapters of british history rather than finding that they have been misplaced and according to some perhaps a little too conveniently now the opposition labor party here has called for an investigation into the missing documents otherwise they say they'll be allegations of a cover up in relation to this while human rights groups like amnesty international
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like reprieve they use these archives quite often to search for evidence of human rights violations then now demanding that the prime minister to resign may that she launched a search for these missing documents across the government departments that have failed to return them to the national archives or polyfuse transpired. there was tell you london to get some more thoughts on we're joined by international affairs from time to jonathan steele hey jonathan you've been listening in i know you've been in the across this is just an unfortunate coincidence that some of these are the highly controversial papers belonging to holly controversial cases of just go missing was a careless was it more to it the murky thing. and i think there's more to it than that i mean if you lose one or two documents that could be just a mistake human error by somebody innocently making a mistake but if large numbers more than a thousand documents got lost and they most of them seem to refer to very
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controversial cases then you have to begin to smell a rat. do you think these papers will now come to light and there's a call for we've put in a request the prime minister is going to be asked do you think they will all come to loiter of the been lost for good some of these. it's possible to go into that question one hundred percent we'll just have to see. over the next few days and weeks whether they do come to light again but it is an absolute scandal because as you pointed out most of them refer to incidents in the past where britain was in a very bad position because there was a question of torture in northern ireland there was no obvious letter really interesting there when the time when we're talking about a fake news he used to tamper with elections all kinds of allegations being made here is a case where british intelligence definitely did tamper with an election in one thousand twenty four and there's no doubt about it but we haven't got the the evidence that was once available has now gone missing yeah i think you'd think if
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the u.k.'s national archives have documents you think maybe they're almost especially if they're important documents you think they would maybe keep stories that wishful thinking i don't know how it works. well that's another of the questions being asked did did you keep documents did you make copies did you make duplications where are the implications why didn't you use then send the originals back if you were making a copy why didn't the dick government department send it back to the national archives where they belong if they borrowed them just on a temporary says so as a whole series of questions so wish it need to be answered where should the head drolet you think u.k. national archives or the departments where they've gone and be lost. i think it is the government departments i mean the national archives perhaps should never have learned them out without better safeguards they'd be returned within a short space of time but the government has the ultimate power american author of
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the national archives to lend material to them so there is the ones who should take the blame for this not the national archive so who's and i want it will be it'll it'll bring in the course posed as well the future from all this stuff to be digitized as well as being physically there of paper what are some of the digital record i guess if you chair. well it's always easy to watch computers too and sorry i'm just putting them on a digital thing. that doesn't sort of govern forever if this bill will people will find a way to destroy things unfortunately real mystery in it jobs are still a national first commentator thanks for across the story will continue to follow them thanks for your input to. other news the largest exchange of prisoners of war between ukraine and the self-proclaimed nets can look ganske republics has just been completed we're here today we'll get live update on that after this break.
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here's what people have been saying about rejected in the. early show i go out of my way to. really packed them. all over a party of marriage. we are apparently better than. c. heard of. the president of the world bank. sent us an e-mail. president two thousand national security strategy tells us how he sees the world or rather how the washington foreign policy clearly washington are running the show.
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wednesday the twenty seventh of december thanks for watching us international live from moscow it's twenty twenty two minutes past six mosco time now the north african country of chad has demanded an apology from the united arab emirates the spots go in on itself the emirates airlines banned female should museums from boarding flights to the u.a.e. last friday so i think a possible terrorist threat the move caused widespread anger. i just him she believed my would i go to a country that wonder exactly if that's the case and i should also be opposed visas on the united arab emirates and the nose of the not the widely known views and. these operations are a farce preventing an arab from visiting arab countries is unacceptable when we see
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the westerners going from country to country freely then. there is one of the state must defend the rights of tinnies in women and force the us to apologize. the passage of has to be said was lifted this a day in the gulf states foreign minister later tweeted that the ballot be necessary for security said stressing though that the u.a.e. respects and values chin is in women but that was not enough for john is the it retaliated by banning all emirates flights now from landing its airports this tweet you see was posted by the airline informing customers that flights indeed had been suspended we talked to a blogger and activist who said the u.a.e. is an initial person japan was a big insult. so there was a tap and. file ation of tunisian women rights but it's a violation of women rights in general the spokesperson for the national presidency talk about security problems but this doesn't trust
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what happened if a small female babies were not allowed on planes i don't think that the. present. generation government is still asking for official apology and it happened under the pressure of people here in tunisia. and made a prisoner exchange between kiev and the south proclaimed donetsk and lugansk republics in east ukraine partly just finished it's the largest since the start of the conflict on the roman coast just witness to a lot of it go how many people revolted through. all this right given that this is the largest prisoner exchange that's taken place here in the east of ukraine since the start of the conflict back in twenty four to seventy four ukrainian soldiers were sent back home. this day
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from the nets and lugansk as promised by the side here while three hundred and six were supposed to return here to the boss however that figure has changed at the very end with the ukrainian authorities claiming that some of the gaps captains had already been released earlier and some of the captives have refused to return to demands and look around once again this is according to the ukrainian authorities in this is something that remains to be confirmed so the final number of prisoners of war that returns in the next can look gonski stands. right now adds two hundred and forty people however not everything went completely smoothly during the exchange as the ukrainian side delayed a change by not closing the checkpoint so work this exchange was supposed to take
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place of course this prisoner swap is part of the minsk agreement and of course the minsk agreements have been designed to help settle the conflict here in the city green and the prisoner exchange is a major part of it and the humanitarian for the rest of it remains to be decided and little bit later meanwhile the prisoners that have been exchanged will be standing here all the days with their families both in ukraine and here in these contestants every story is going to say no matter how you look at it at least some people with friends families and loved ones this festive period come out to the new year thanks rob when you take a good new year so thanks for telling us about the talking of this festive period a new year period seems to be a french president is not in every one of all of the surprises ministers by demanding they stay on style and not ventured to fall from paris during the holidays and all done too well with some of them.
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misery of everyone is going to work of a christmas. up facebook you tube channel many ways to keep up to speed with the new so much about international before i go still a moment for me kevin i would too if she will the best seasonal gratings and all the best to cause for twenty eight how to continue to watch this in the coming twelve months.
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snow were good i'm. stuka to eighty. thousand. east oklahoma. into. the us so the for. los angeles the city of luxury and free but also an alarming number of people living in the streets. simple fact in l.a. he's there's just not enough shelter even if people on the streets right now decided to come in there's nowhere to come in it's been a struggle. this man found his own response to the problem and constructed
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dozens of tiny homes for people in need of shelter when you have nothing in order to go. you know having something like this may as well be a castle to the earth or to use except such solution. me house on a city parking space is not a solution perth to have someone monitoring the site otherwise it will be a free for all and is there a better alternative to end the homelessness crisis. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered peter lavelle president
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donald trump's two thousand and seventeen national security strategy report tells us how he sees the world or rather how the washington foreign policy leads for a candidate who ran on a message of change the report is unremarkable in its defense the status quo policies and views clearly washington's neo cons are running the show. the national security strategy i'm joined by my guests in washington michael o'hanlon is a senior fellow at the brookings institution and we have brian becker he's the director of the answer coalition as well as host of loud and clear a daily new show on radio sputnik all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate brian let me go to you first i'll be quite blunt i mean i read it quite carefully it seems more or less a continuation of what we've seen for almost the last thirty years and actually seems a lot more. confrontational i would say. the some of the points that about
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trade actually agree with on immigration i actually agree with but more or less the same guy only the people that wrote the two thousand and seventeen report could have written the one justifying the iraq war if you actually compare texas they're very similar in the words they use go ahead. well i think i'm glad you mentioned the iraq war because the national security strategy which is a congressionally mandated report from the executive branch. it sometimes is a predictor of what's coming in in the case of george w. bush six months before the invasion the shock and awe invasion of iraq. bush came out with a national security strategy which provided although we didn't use the exact words of preemptive war it was the logic of preemptive war another words the u.s.
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arrogating to itself the right to perceived threats and go to war against them even before the us has been attacked of course that would be a violation of the u.n. charter and international law but nonetheless it became a powerful logical explanation for what came later the question now with donald trump's national security strategy is does this predict where trump is really going in and i think it i think it does i mean he mentioned china twenty four times in the report mentions china twenty four times all of them in a bellicose aggressive way it mentions russia in a in a bellicose an aggressive way there's no kind words for either china or russia iraq and north korea rogue states and of course non-state actors terrorism is the third dimension of the threat to america and so you have the trump administration sort of bringing together the america first or overarching sort of agit prop of the trump
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election campaign with this idea that the rise of china or the reemergence of russia now back on its feet means that america is receding that america is being humbled that america is the victim that america is threatened and so i think what trump has actually done is articulate the not just the possibility of a new cold war but the logic of a new cold war and thus it becomes almost official in washington and. things will follow from that ok well that's a very interesting takeaway mike what was your reaction to it because when it was over a year ago i think it was when we still had candidate trump and he was. in the national interest i think his article was i mean this principled realism i still don't see anything principled and i don't see any really real is a minute here go ahead mike. hi peter nice to be with you i agree with some of what brian just said i do think that there is a tone in the report that is strong and tries to push back and that push backs
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pushes back strongly against china russia north korea iran i agree with all that i do however and by the way you're aware i'm not a supporter of president truong but i never was but i know who he is and i know why he got elected and the putting america first concept if i could just begin with that in my in my first comment because that is the centerpiece of the opening page and i think the title of the report or at least the subtitle and i think frankly the way in which that concept is described is basically ok now i share some of your and brian's concerns about the tone toward certain countries that we can come back to that but putting america first of course can be interpreted as a zero sum competition among nations or it can be interpreted as hero principles we're going to try to live by we expect others to live by them and if we can all do that then we can all prosper and at least in terms of the theory of the report at least in terms of the language that's on the paper i think that it's more the
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second that in fact there is an effort here to say we should be able to get along with other countries so some of the criticisms about the sort of generally negative tone of the report i don't really agree with that i do agree that the report is very tough on china and russia and north korea and iran ok let me read you a short fragment here and this is directly directed to russia and china these competitions russia and china require the united states to rethink the policies of the past two decades policies based on the assumption that engagement with rivals and their inclusion in the in international institutions and global commerce will turn them into benign benign amazing actors and trustworthy partners for the most part this premise turned out to be false i mean this is really really remarkable it is you know it's not the international system it's the international. the system as it's perceived and constructed by the washington consensus and if the chinese and the russians don't want to play by our rules want you to rules they are rivals even
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adversaries and i pointed this language extremely arrogant because it doesn't it doesn't bring good policy foreign policy result for the united states and i would say put the world go ahead brian yes absolutely i'm so i'm so glad that you read that particular part of the report because it says so much it's not just that that part of the report is not simply an attack on russia or china it's a repudiation of past u.s. policy or the perception of u.s. policy since the end of the soviet union when they're talking about going back a couple decades we're talking about going back to the time of the collapse of the soviet union in the socialist bloc countries so trampas repudiating the past twenty five years well during the past twenty five years the united states sought to function as a unit polar dominating power but still used multilateral institutions in other words kept the framework of multilateralism and the hallmark of american foreign
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policy at the conclusion of world war two and keep to the construct of the post world war two world order that had the united states in charge but in a multilateral framework where different powers including its defeated enemies from world war two japan and germany had a place they had a place as junior partners where they were given access to markets etc rather than what happened after world war one trump i think is stepping back on a lot of levels the abandonment of the paris climate treaty the rejection of t p p the rejection of almost anything that has to do with a multilateral framework to bring up of the joint comprehensive planners trying to sabotage the iran nuclear arms deal we see in this document the us in america first it says america will be the dominant power we're no longer going to pretend. multi-lateralism is enough to keep china and russia and other countries in their place because they are rising and so america must put them back in their
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place and thus it will be by the exercise of american quote american threats american intimidation we see that at the u.n. today trump is telling the rest of the world you know if you vote that long way today on jerusalem you're going to be punished that's not engage me that's the cost of the and using either military or the threats of military or economic aggression or sanctions as the way of this imploding or policing the new post world war and now postal cold war order that's very interesting you know mike when i read the report i found it to be very defensive about defense ok because i what really disturbed me was the lack of using diplomatic tools and i really very much agree with what brian was having to say here i mean particularly china i mean we've seen this in history over and over again are we seeing power either you you know back off and let it happen you deal with it or you have a war ok and it seems to me out of the three options here this administration is
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actually telling us get ready for a confrontation i don't think it's really necessary but that's what it looks like go ahead mike. yeah peter so thank you let me focus like you just did on china for a minute i thought it was a little too strong the report in terms of how it talked about china i think there should have been a statement to acknowledge just how far china's common how much progress it's made and and the order of the international order that you and brian were talking about did help make it possible so it was american strategy in conjunction with other countries including the soviet union but also our allies that created a un system and then in the west that created an economic system that facilitated china's rise so whatever china's rise has become it was partly our doing and partly our hope now there are problems in the u.s. china economic relationship and i think we do need to take those very seriously but i agree with you that the tone overall is.
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