tv Cross Talk RT December 29, 2017 3:30pm-4:01pm EST
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hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle this is the last edition of cross talk for the year and we're doing something different we answer questions from you our viewers. in the year that was i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have he is a political analyst as well as
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a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dimitri bob which is a political analyst with sputnik international all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate before we go to war our viewers' questions i'd like each one of you maybe i will start here to kind of sum up some of the most important things that happened in the last twelve months and i think i'm going to kind of end the year in kind of a dramatic note i think we face in the united states a constitutional crisis it's really very much coming to a head we have a congress that is not answering demands. and we have good department of justice and the f.b.i. there are not answering demands from congress we see an outright media war depending on what station you look at you could be looking at a very different country and i'm looking at like fox versus like c.n.n. very different views of the world it's getting to a critical point it didn't happen in two thousand and seventeen i think it's going to happen in two thousand and eighteen what's your major takeaway picture so.
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injury in two thousand and seventeen is dictated by a russia syria and their allies against terrorist organizations that period for years against isis against a new sin against the other others and this is really a game changer not just for syria but for the middle east as a whole and i don't think it's over yet two thousand and over again but the severity very major step it's a major setback for the united states and their allies mark if you take away from the viewpoint of. living in russia the russian media and perhaps the media the left in the us this has been a year under siege a year of constantly having to battle back a neo mccarthy narrative that not only intends to target trump but intends to silence voices of opposition with the left media syria as well it's far from over but at least a regime change is off the table but we have a whole new middle east destabilisation with truck playing games in the clearing
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jerusalem to really get it over with our viewer questions demon i think two thousand and seventeen was a year a year or inconclusive to the crisis i think in syria ok then the u.k. and france dropped for the moment they demand. to go but the united states remains there so the war is not over yet unfortunately but the crisis is over you know it seems to me in a moment on that before we go to the questions it seems to be a crisis of leadership i mean as i was going to the studio here we. still are some flip flopping again on a sign to me it would go back and forth yes yes yes so why is seeds in conclusion conclusive i agree with you it's go to the first question from one of our viewers here my question is what exactly is the deep state and who's in it victor and that's a good question a deep state there's a nexus of the u.s. special seriousness of the u.s. permanent political bureaucracy and the mass media that serious. and essentially it
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performs with controls the daily functioning of the nation while the president that's his own thing you know it's really interesting that this mark i think you pointed out i think was a year ago almost exactly that we started talking about how the new york times uses the term deep state that never was used in circulation in the mass media and now it's you know published. you're still going to well we have and it was only to somebody else so somebody else had the state yeah ok so there's a long history of talking about the deep state academically in the u.s. back to eisenhower warning about the military industrial complex but we have had a recent rejuvenation of it and the deep state has become active something it's not always it that your nose is posted because challenge the. foreign policy and we're talking about specific people we need to take a look. at this is difficult because if we knew who specifically is leaking and
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disrupting policy they'd be in jail michael morrell the former acting director of the cia a clinton surrogate the one who infamously said to charlie rose that the u.s. needs to start killing more russians and iranians so we're going to sleep is different says here the deep state is they're not supposed to be political they're not supposed to be active and now we have high government officials in the f.b.i. looking for insurance policies to make sure their views. and i think. act according to a little too liberal globalist ideology it's that they are. so this you call them the second i was you know when i was doing which is not always seen but you know it relies on the ultra liberal ideology which which signifies that a new cruelty a new law is justified if the so-called western values are not supposed to be seen
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but it's certainly felt when they want to do you issues that democracy is not just a facade states. well i would say we go it's a fraud just a second question let's go to the second question what is the future with ukraine is there a russian plan or shall some parts of ukraine be like somalia work yeah well there's a lot of discussion that putin had a cunning plan at one point but i don't know if it's been so cutting what we have is a frozen conflict and i think we may see some some escalation you know we see a frozen conflict there were four hundred fifty two civilian deaths in the last year and and i'm sure that wasn't. just about the so you can hear that was but unfortunately the russian government probably should have acted more proactively when this west back porch first overthrew the government and seized power i warned about it at the time they did not now there is really no military solution and the
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kremlin is basically hoping that over time the corruption the unpopularity of this regime helps bring it down to the max i think we're going to something with in two thousand and eighteen we know now that lethal weapons are being sold to the ukrainian regime and that's that's going to make this conflict let's go forward to look at well now it's official go ahead to believe it told both russia can see this ukraine an independent state so there was no russian plan for ukraine there was no point did you say the u.s. considers ukraine and the independence ok you know i don't you know you but you know i have said a lot you could see that it was you know that in order to see if i got your sense that it was going to give you an indefensible i didn't see it isn't that independence there's no such thing as independence and when it comes to the view of washington either you're under their heel or you're in and there's another thing absolutely between but probably and that was a mistake here i agree with mark russia had no plan for ukraine but the common
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sense would prevail first and told that there would be if you called for a lot and i think that was my biggest positionally because criticism. russian foreign policy is that hopes for a reason absolute that is not already frozen is not only for me to keep our viewers view when there is not a student or a man they want to be there to question their. doctors their question what is the future of the middle east may look like next year with syria and being but yemen and lebanon continuing in the struggle and what might we see as actual policy response to the jerusalem decision ok so the jerusalem decision by the time put me on station actually gives opportunity to moscow to russia to become much more active. in the conflict and the russian is also going to be much more active in discussions in tehran and they yet it is no shit prize that for the
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first time the king of saudi arabia came to moscow to meet with putin in the kremlin and now russia is going to be much more active in this really i mean its foreign policy is destructive it's really interesting picture and where you know the picture is absolutely right is that you know it's because of the failed proactive policies of washington and its client states that actually opened creates openings for from moscow and to read first of all syria is not over libya is not over and yemen is not over and none of them will be over next year either but at least with syria now there is a light in the tunnel. the u.s. has there's a lot of talk that donald trump has forfeited control of the middle east to russia by not being proactive and doesn't buy that but i was out there they said it's completely nonsense the u.s. is constant the u.s. and saudi arabia blowback against their repeated regime change in meddling in the
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region has hit them again and again and again attempts to curtail the iranian influence helps growing russian influence if there's any i. the responsibility it's donald trump over lying upon the intel would be even well that's true but i think coming back to the results of the i think one of the main events was this meeting all of the presidents of russia turkey and iran and so on you would juxtaposition of forces that is going to determine two thousand it's not going to be sued but it's not going to be pro american versus american is going to be sovereign states against the west and why are they going to need to be reminded of that because he just called the president of syria a terrorist again the other day presidential roughly how to present your point that russia one should i mean you know to be geopolitics is not about and has never been a part of morality or about this if you dos obviously it is it is the art of
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finding common ground with other nations and using those unions those alliances against against other cities so to be in a position has not been in for the last fifty years opposing to. be. a much tougher relationship with washington than ever before you know for the post-war year so again i thought it was russia that was trying to create divisions within nato i guess one of their own members are doing actually it's not the russians it's not the russians going to move forward to it in front of a firing line in norway it was need to do and it wasn't russia that sponsored the coup into a key it was some western states and we can leave we don't we we don't really know what it is and you don't agree with that still what is important is that now we have sovereign states versus us quien states and this is going to continue and for russia you know when people are the stoic about the soviet union they say this if
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you will so much stronger than russia the soviet union had dependence you know that you know the middle east that wanted money from us you know egypt. now we have the saudi king coming to more school with have the turkish president come into law school they are what i would think about them much more serious spotlights than the ones that we've had before so from the point of view of russia's national interest that is one of the main results of two thousand and seventeen if you during your business has been you know continued a specially for nafta after our program will continue our discussion on questions from our viewers stayed with r.t. so much that that russia could. pay everybody i'm stephen bach. collingwood guy the suspect every proud
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american first of all i'm just george bush and r.v.'s to say this is my buddy max famous financial guru well just a little bit different i. think. there was no doubt with all the drama happening in our country i'm good have fun every day americans. and hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the great american people which. was guiding insisting that we don't go to them i am. trying to list as. best that. climbing you when you go forward but it would be when you. grow so
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world either for the better or worse in two thousand and seventeen that event will be the greatest long term positive or negative effect for or repercussions i think we kind of talked a little bit about them right now i think what's happening is that i think i'm going to go with your thread here is that. it's briggs and trump that happened the year before and we're still trying to grapple with the the outcomes of those two democratic decisions i mean democracy got of the way with the of these global elites ok i mean going into leaving this year going to next year we see hungry and poland being sanctioned within the european union because they're expressing their sovereign right i guess nobody told them when you join the e.u. you lose all of your sovereignty so and that's the cold reality that there we're going up to well so talking about an event i wouldn't say it's an event it's a sequence of events that you object to poles like roll castro said he would say that next year there will be another person running cuba you have zyuganov
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challenge and putin anymore there is a much more serious candidate and i would challenge in him at the election you have point and hungary basically oppose in the e.u. you know with their elected governments on the other side a side you have been declared before you need and in the united states you have the french president for whom and minority vote at you know someone who wasn't wanted by the majority of the french and it was only thanks to manipulations that he became president you have the longest post-war political crisis in germany where they can form the government so you see how the east is getting more and more democratic the former socialist world what i would call it and the west is getting less and less democratic talking about forty mediums who can for spies prohibited people to talk to foreign in basso this i want to get in my now we have members of congress saying that you know. every russian is suspect i mean i mean i mean what
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are they supposed to do where some kind of red star on their on their sleeves down the streets but you know what i'm doing is i'm here in florida to mark posts that the thoughts were somehow related to russia but then i guess too many people. really wanted to read those posts to see what it's all about and then facebook stopped marking them so it did not act at them but really we are in. a very special period in a period of change from pax americana from in america sam to so our world to have multiple worlds so it's the end of the universe only moment in the when a car how much washington wants to expand to me no matter what it does to prolong its period of global warming has it that i mean this is going the way they buy the market the same thing can be said about the monopoly that the mainstream
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media had for decades that's being broken up the fact that we're sitting here talking right now and viewers are watching us that monopoly continued to be broken in two thousand and seventeen but there's a lot of pushback tzschirner to a lot of support with with declaring for media to. foreign agents and then trying to attach the label to the left in the old media the pay walls that are going up across the mainstream media outlets there is a there really isn't in for war on the internet although i think the common people are more the victims and it with this corporate mainstream media and the stenographer thing from the from the government that's pushing it but i agree with victor completely this is the year that the hedge i'm on was challenged they had him on which challenge that home with the election of trump and the u.s. political regime both elected and the unelected portions are at war with itself it's shaking the us as role as not the leader of the free world but as the headroom
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on the globe and legitimacy at home and abroad here let's go to our next question you know probably the most controversial and i'm kind of curious how you guys are going to react considering your old man is the moral corruption of the west in the formulation of its foreign domestic social. an economic policy caused by feminism. i thought you had i think it's caused by primitive on the stand in a famine ism i think this year will be remembered not on live because over there. pax americana but also it will be remembered in russia for example by the attacks media text against the women who oppose the global dominance. because there was a whole campaign this year in the russian media in the foreign media you know. that ukrainian. was released and her needs was demanded by all the world's media nearly step up and woman man east ukrainian sitting in jail since two thousand and
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fourteen simply because she participated in the referendum to do it really really a very interesting he said i would say two thousand and seventeen in least in the west as a war on men yes. today we are talking about the war on land and yes it's not just feminism it's actually it's radical feminism from the sixty's and seventy's that doesn't just oppose p.t.o. but once meteoric you but there you go into utopian sentiment is going to come in the few years we are actually today talking about what i'm going to end up which is ation a new industrial revolution and that brings the specter of a world where gender differences are not going to matter that much at all robots do not need sex and that is the real danger in the next decades ok the more there is moral corruption in the west but it doesn't come from feminism even from a few radical feminists in the later years that have gone off the ranch this show
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is made by women and they're produced without federalism it sure would be i've got no problems with classical feminism the right comes from actually classical liberalism because of the individual and the. if occasion of neo liberalism the economic system of the unfettered unregulated free market over everything the market is a sham the commodification of all human relations that's where the real moral decay of the west comes from ok i don't think we have any comments about that in two thousand and seven he was the year of the robe i'm thinking of harvey weinstein and charlie charlie rose did you say the year of the robe the open robe ok what i was i was saying i want to keep going here because i think this is a question that came from don de bar frequent. guest on this program and constant viewer he always is reminding me you know when is the program going to be on you tube ok will trump be removed from office now victor i'm going to turn to you
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because i think almost every single episode you've been on the last six months you're predicting the removal of trump from us will be removed from office in two thousand and eight she and this is going to be his fierce and last new year in the oval office and the. special counsel. is going to pressure those around him put pressure on his family members and this actually he's going to be asked to step down all right victor one year from now we're going to save this clip and then i'm going to ask you do explain it or say i told you so go ahead mark trump we don't know trump may eventually be removed from office it most likely won't be in twenty eighteen it will depend on how the republicans do in the midterm elections do they make control and does trump keep trying to push a foreign policy like they talk with russia that's against the establishment so far it appears he's going in the opposite direction and bowing down to everything that
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neo cons want at this point so it in that way he's actually giving them what they don't know but i've been saying this all along you know he said you know he does cave time the time he got in by returning this time but i'm going to get going no he didn't think it kudos for it but ok he did and he only gets worse. only gets worse no it's because neal liberalism this postmodernist project it doesn't believe in negotiation will only include their my if your new go shade it is called appeasement and then if you peace them they want more and more this is what the ideology was but i think mccain did that who we knew who said he wanted good relations with russia who said that there are russians even in crimea and it's basically why should he go into ukraine that candidate has been removed from or at least years out of absolutely so they can do that the most serious the engine mrs clinton that wanted to drain the swamp of that kenya that has been removed from office the fact that there is
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a person who can exactly wake him sitting in the water is making some statements that is not very important which was mostly. their problem for the police has been removed trump their official we may be still there but the country remains terribly divided i mean we still have a lot of very deep deep red states here and this is what you know what we did actually did a program a civil war i mean i don't know to what degree it will get you know hot to warm up but certainly in the discourse of opposing narratives that the civil war is raging right now and i have every reason to believe it's going to continue in two thousand and eighty it is going to get even worse because these attempts to be moved up they are going to divide the country even more you are exactly correct when you say that there is going to be there is a likelihood there were a constitutional crisis. at them to fight but here we attempt to. accuse those who are trying to remove him of those misdeeds that they are guilty of
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and it will be very very nice people to but these people don't they don't they have every expectation to bribe this president because they believe they know what's best ok and we all know you know the. these federal employees life employees the vast majority of the mark are democrats they pay they have to give me contributions for the democratic candidate we're talking about again that deep state this unelected bureaucracy that continues even after every four years the political head changes year the hill reported that for the two thousand and sixteen election cycle ninety five percent of federal workers donated the clinton that trend is only expected to. continue in two thousand and eighteen but relax the deep state's frontman this cobol of general mattis mcmasters kelly they got this truck has just about admitted that he's turned over ford military policy to them right
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now he's just the twitterer in chief he's a figurehead he's something that they may find they can live with at least until the end of his regular four you're going to think that it was an important thing the trauma didn't he he dumped t.p. so now it's clear that there won't be just one globalization they can use several globalization's one of them so that this sentence will do that to states the china and russia so that is one of the main results of two thousand and seventeen all right gentlemen many thanks to my guest here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember crosstalk.
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