time and. united nations security council holds an emergency session on the anti-government protests that swept the wrong. turkey lashes out at america apparently threatening to drop bilateral agreements after the conviction of the turkish banker in the us that is as pakistan also backs away from its alliance with washington. cream hardship in france thousands of migrants are living in the streets by the president promised to find them all shelter before the end of two thousand and seven. a colleague and a farmer joins you next hour for a more complete look at the day's headlines but next cross talk gets into the continuing collapse of trust in the mainstream media seems.

slow and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle if you trust the mainstream media well then you're in the minority sadly a great deal of media today is not designed to inform but rather confirms political bias this approach of the news is not only polarizing but it's also lowering journalistic standards is this why readers and viewers seek their news elsewhere. across talking the news i'm joined by my guest charles or tile in new york he is a private investor and a writer as well as host of the podcast show sunday with charles and in williamsburg cross to andrew he is president of the institute liberty for. as well

as the host of the andrew langer show on. in baltimore all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it charles let me go to you first i mean one of the reasons why i wanted to do this program is the scandal around brian ross over at a.b.c. and of course that was a horrific mistake and. the perception is there that that wasn't very good journalism and it's true because he was getting ahead of himself so much so much of the media gets ahead of itself not in reporting information but to further their agenda and in the process they're damaging journalism the standards of journalism of drop so badly in the western world right now and i would say and we can talk about this later in the program it's destroying institutions that we used to cherish go ahead charles you know i totally agree with that i'm actually i started out as an investment banker and about ten years ago i began exposing corporate fraud and then charity fraud and i took the scandal which is still not

been prosecuted the clinton foundation scandal to brian ross through one of his closest friends about about two years ago and he refused to cover oh i did the same thing with jake tapper and the same thing with maggie haberman the new york times and what i think you have here is the established media needs to preserve access to the established political parties and they're never going to take an assault as far as it needs to go into the truth you know and really that that's so well put there because there are so many you know we had this unmasking after the election but nobody ever talks about that we have we have the democrats they did not allow access to the d.n.c. server we know that the democrats and possibly f.b.i. was paying for this. dossier there's nobody talks about that in the mainstream media it's always pushed away because it doesn't further their agenda and instead

they go after these myths with what i call a conspiracy without a crime of course i'm talking about russia gate go ahead and. well listen there are a couple things that are going on here one of the real problems i see is what we call the twenty four second news cycle everybody is racing to be first with the story they don't care particularly if the story is right if the facts are accurate they just want to be first to the headline because they make their money through whatever click that they can get and that's very difficult to hedge against this and i think you're absolutely correct there are certain standards of journalism that simply are being followed that i've gone down this road with journalists myself journalists are not following their sort of standard practices. journalistic ethics or what have you with regards to these other stories we have to remember right is that it's not just that journalists are like anybody else. but what we're finding more and more is that we have journalists who have no real intellectual

curiosity no with no real interest in sort of delving further unless it's to pursue some sort of an agenda you know we talked we were talking before about this imraan alwan story which is the story of the i.t. director for some eighty democratic house members who was downloading terabytes of data from the house computers had access to the d.n.c. computers and yet there is one actual reporter and then and then a couple of other sort of writers who are writing on this story out of washington d.c. this is a massive scandal and yet nobody is covering it because for whatever agenda reasons or because they're just not curious about it you know you know charles we chose you and we already heard the word click here and i think that's very interesting is that in this is what it's really gotten down to is to get clicks to get eyeballs and worry about it later i mean we saw this during the last year's campaign where journalists openly said well this is a very different kind of candidate so we have to relax my word relax our

journalistic rules i mean that is a very slippery path ok either you have principles or you don't have principles and what and what they're doing is that since we're going to treat him differently as a result viewers and readers are now seeing mainstream media is not fulfilling those principles that they say that they uphold go ahead charles. you know what i founded by experiences with journalism please don't take this the wrong way but you know most journalists are excellent with words and hopeless when it comes to understanding numbers vary and what we have since ninety ninety eight ninety nine is an economic realignment where unregulated globalism is growing to dominate even try to large markets like the united states europe etc and the proponents of this unregulated globalism are republicans and democrats and even not allied people around the world why because in this gigantic unregulated global market you could

make a lot of money trading influence. you know for various various ways and so people are doing it on the campuses they're doing it investment funds are doing the banks they're doing it the global media complexes to understand this you have to understand basic economics and financial statements and you have to know how to follow the money and these journalists don't know how to do that i think it's an excellent you know entry said you know what i think we've seen over the last twenty twenty five years is that the mainstream media is just the p.r. for the establishment it's not news i mean i because of my the nature of my job i have to watch m s n b c i have to watch c.n.n. it's you know i sometimes i need a bucket but you know i have to do it and i don't learn anything i mean i don't get my news from them i have my own sources i put five or six hours every single day seven days a week in learning about news from people that i trust and places that i can i can go that i can trust ok but that i don't because all i see is just advocacy for the establishment for a liberal ideology for globalism as charles has mentioned here and i think that's

intentional right now ok i mean this is they they're channeling all of this to keep this narrative about the status quo and we do know if we look at the last election the two different parties we had an insurgency with the democrats we had an accessible insurgent with with trump and the republicans i think the establishment is terrified and this is why the media needs to get things back and that's why they're moving towards censorship and we'll get to that in the second part of the program all of these things come together go ahead. and while that's that's exactly right they do flow one into the other you have these issues where things sort of step over the line into advocacy and some of it has to do with not wanting to damage the existing relationships that are out there right maggie haberman who went to the same. whether the same high school as me if you want to talk about duplicitousness we were supposed to appear on a panel together talk about high school students and she had the gall to say she

because she was a journalist she was going to appear on a panel with me because i'm in the advocacy world when in fact the course of her reporting is done. from an advocacy basis i mean i was i was sort of floored by this and i said ok all the more reason for her and i do appear on a panel of no she wouldn't do it so i've been there i think that that's a really great story here because that's that's what i come across all of the time is that you know it's really it's not news it is how to deflect from your narrative protect your narrative and the people that are protecting you ok i mean i'm not on television because of my pretty face ok i'm on television for a very different reason when i look at the cable stations i think that it's more they can read the teleprompter but probably better than i can because i'm off a lot of even after all these years i mean that's what it is i mean it's advocacy and it least you know and this n.b.c.

is open about it and i respect that and fox is open about and i respect that but everybody else you know they like to pretend that they're journalists they're not i mean that it's claptrap really what they're going to go ahead charles and peter go to let me go to charles with one thing i would say is that where i get my news in addition to you know your channel and other places one of the best sources for news i like isidro hedge yeah dot com and that's it and that's an independent. channel for news that does a really good job of getting out ahead of the curve not only within our. but providing you access to source documents another one is free republic to both do the same thing you know you have to check and check these facts you know and challenge your mind charles i think why wait around you are absolutely zero hedge because you're going back to something you said earlier they like numbers they understand the economy and i really like the marriage of news and economic news that they have that's very well done and you want to jump in there go ahead. you

know i just want to sort of you talk about this relationship between establishment journalism and nowhere is it more clear than the one thing that nobody seems to be talking about in this whole michael flynn mess which is this issue of you know we know the f.b.i. was listening on the conversation with him between flynn and ambassador chris lee act. we know that they tracked flynn with it later on what we don't know is how and why the washington post got their hands on that transcript except this relationship between the establishment the deep state and you know the so-called mainstream journalism you know you know chelsea you know i can't get one minute before we go to the break here everybody likes to use this word collusion you know in technically in the legal sense it's not illegal but on all the collision i see is with the f.b.i. it with the media and a lot of the of course the democratic party and its establishment that seems to be a collusion i mean we could use the word cobol or something like that but they're in lockstep all of the time go ahead charles you know i think it goes all the way

back it could go far back as one nine hundred eighty nine it's a collusion of cooperation between establishment wings of the democrat republican party to promote the interests of the big defense contractors big global media big big global banks etc to obstruct the analysis and the finding of the real truths that need to be address it's a joke it's a gigantic long term many decades long i would argue conspiracy well it's certainly been corrosive all right gentlemen we're all going to go to a break here and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the news industry stay with art. being in debt is to express your true self as an american and part of the

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welcome back across the uk where all things considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing the news industry. ok and i can introduce now for the program mark crispin miller here in new york he is a professor of media and culture in communication at new york university as well as author of the book fooled again the real case for electoral reform ok mark i understand you were listening to a part of the first part of the program and you already have a reaction go ahead jump in yeah i do i mean i find the conversation that i was able to hear really fascinating and i agree with with pretty much all of it i would simply comment that it does have a slightly amnesiac quality i mean i was. pleased to hear i think it was charles trace this colu shin that we're talking about back to one thousand nine hundred

nine i think you know to be perfectly honest what we're talking about here really dates back at least to november twenty second one nine hundred sixty three i mean it was with the kennedy assassination and that the press jumped wholeheartedly into the position of ferocious advocate for the official narrative of that. historic history changing incident which which they continue to promote to this day i mean recently it was back in the news because of the delayed and partial release of a number of documents by the cia and f.b.i. they were supposed to have released them a while ago. due to a law that was passed in the early ninety's after the release of oliver stone's film i think president obama gave them a pass let them not release them we don't need to get into the weeds on this the

fact is it was back in the news now we're talking about. an official story that some four fifths of the american people no longer believe you know and something like sixty percent of the american people now believe that the cia was involved in kennedy's assassination nineteen percent think that lee harvey oswald did it ok despite that overwhelming majority to this day the new york times and c.n.n. and n.p.r. and the new yorker and all the rest of them all the rest continue to flaw that very dead horse of you know warren report you know but martin of you know let me let me go to intrude on this here i mean i think that's a good starting point there but then we have the pentagon. papers we had what happened in watergate and there was actually a few moments of glory for journalism i would say there and then it's all downhill

the illegal invasion of iraq in two thousand and three and then we know when there's no prosecutions for what happened in the in the great financial crisis of two thousand and eight and it just goes on and on the difference is the technology changes and i think this is why the elites are really they are going to turning to censorship absolutely they want to pull this back in they want their monopoly back they want their monopoly back for exactly this one of the reasons that mark pointed out to us and i think this is a very interesting very dangerous time because these people have a lot of power and they don't like people like me and where i work go ahead andrew well let me add to this right because normally what you would have is we would have independent organizations going out there and verifying and acting as a check on whatever malicious fraudulent stories are out there now we have this very nebulous definition of fraud and attorneys general all around the country eric schneiderman new york and california who are using very weird vague definitions of

fraud to go after these nonprofit organizations and go to the heart of what they're doing it's part of why folks are going after what they call dark money from these organizations to try to get it who's funding them because they can't attack the veracity of what folks are saying so what they're going to do is they're trying to going to try to say what they're saying is fraudulent and then try to shut them down i mean that's operation choke point was something the government did that was the pretext was to go after fraud you had as i said eric schneiderman in new york going after organizations gauging and advocacy saying they were engaging in fraudulent behavior and so that's the next sort of tactic in all of this you know but it's interesting charles i mean i think it's really interesting what andrew just said there but is anybody going to really seriously take a look at the pedestrian brothers i mean and he want to look at we know what you know at fraud. ok what if you go to the center of it ok i mean again it's this silence just cybil and so all the time you hear the crickets in the background here

i mean if we want to go back to you know all of the events since the election there is so meant so much it would gallery going on the leaking the unmasking all of this there is no interest in it whatsoever in the mainstream media if you watch c.n.n. and m s n b c it's not as if he didn't even happened i mean that's how dangerous things are and then they talk about things you know they talk about myths than and unicorns that's what i call russia gate go ahead charles well the largest unprosecuted fraud in history is going on right now that's the clinton foundation the obama foundation creating these fake foundations that our audit is where billions of dollars is sent towards these foundations but not accounted for where they're engaged in partisan activities where they're enriching the clinton family the obama family and all of that is supported in the case of the clinton foundation by the ivy league by the big universities the universities who if the drug ministration wanted to do this could be put out of business i mean you could go to

a harvard which has support of the clinton foundation and say listen you're engaged in illegal in norman you're donating to a charity that doesn't exist we want to shut you down you're out of for profit corporation technically you could do that if you wanted to you know mark it's really interesting and i've got one interesting element in all of this i used to be an academic and. i was basically hounded out because i can't i can't accept political correctness because and accepting political correctness gets in the way of doing real science and real scholarship ok because they want to have blinders ok that's not scholarship ok and in this is the the the role of the academy of universities i mean brainwashing youth i mean it's amazing to pay so much money to learn junk because that's essentially what young people learn millennialist learned junk at a very high price tag go ahead mark. yeah well that's true and what we're talking about is a moment in which both the media and the universities. have have really kind of

started tightening the gag in a way this is a very very dangerous moment and i want us to you know focus directly on on the issue you raised a moment ago in your question which is the you know tightening censorship that we see going on all around us it is it is successful in large part because for decades both the media and the academy and you could include high schools as well the education establishment and the media establishment have both long refused to acquaint americans to teach americans to let americans think about and know about the dark side of american history most americans are unaware of the real record of the cia and the f.b.i. for example and then there's the a holdover of all the years of intense anti communism you know that created a kind of sediment in the mass mind on which now sure the press has successfully

built this sort of demonic vision of contemporary russia which is exceedingly dangerous now now what i find really unprecedented in my many years of observing all this is that now we see a a really. push across the board to shut down free expression of in many many points of view and if we see it with google changing its algorithms facebook is now you know basically limiting the number of notifications one one can get we see the same thing happening with twitter and you tube we see legislation being passed or considered that will outlaw russian propaganda whatever that is that's not defined we see. the criticism of israel and north zionism now labeled a kind of hate crime and laws are being passed to outlaw that then they're an

explicit means whereby discussion of other inconvenient subjects is as good as it legalized i mean for example vaccines you cannot question the official verdict on vaccines i.e. that they're all safe they're all necessary there's no problem with any of them the same with pizza gate you mentioned the pedestrian or others it's practically an arrestable offense even to bring that subject up ok now on top of this we have what you call political correctness this is kind of bizarre fanatical fanatic ocean fanatic who identity politics it's fanatical identity politics that also makes certain questions certain subjects practically grounds for you know no mark i'm going to i think it's already it's already god to the extreme it's about pronouns now ok i'm afraid to go to canada and california well i might yes

they're wrong pronoun your andrew looking to you right rapidly running out of time this whole mindset this cobol if you want to call about i mean they're destroying institutions to destroying principles all right and then this is what i find really really worrying because this political correctness this gagging this leap the control of the mainstream media they're not satisfying people's problems they're not reaching they're not they're not thinking about their problems ok a better future for their children a better job they all want to talk about transgender toilets that's not going to fix the country ok go ahead and do. well listen i don't want to say this you know as someone who is an ardent anticommunist who believes that i'll act alone who believes in vaccinations to who believes i just want to say i believe that you know censorship is a massive massive problem that any it sort of attempts to censor speech is a massive massive problems i want to say so to differentiate myself with mark but to make it really clear that there is that point of agreement you know that being

said right we you know anything that serves to divide us and divide us as a people makes it easier for people to be controlled and it seems that people against one another it's much much easier for people to control them ok charles let me tell you the last forty seconds on the program i really like what andrew had to say there because this divide and conquer it's a very very risky strategy because the people that are divided can't even talk to each other anymore that's the kind of environment to be live in that's very very dangerous go ahead charles last word well i think i'd like to close with some good news and that is the horse long ago left the barn the horse long ago left the barn there are now millions of independent thinkers and journalists courtesy of the internet there's a lot of information to engage your mind around and the price point for these establishment colleges is out of control high so the global media is under assault you stablish universities i think are under threat and free minds around the world are engaging in collaborating and i think getting our most of the true father what

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