hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle a cursory glance at the media environment could easily give you the impression that the vast majority of journalists studied psychology at university so many are convinced donald trump is not mentally fit to be president or the same journalist suffering from trump derangement syndrome. crosstalk in the media i'm joined by my guest steve malzberg in new york he is a conservative political commentator in bloomington indiana we have kevin howley he is a professor of media studies and defile university and author of drones media discourse and the public imagination i love that title and in west palm beach we cross to dr

jean allowed in she is a psychology expert and host of america trends with dr gina ok crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate it kevin let me go to you first here is the media suffering from trumped arrangements and drone because i could go through the things that we have had to deal with i mean i actually made up a list here you know from push the hat marches to the comi stuff to steal dossier and its contents we have the motor investigation we have a shady lawyer don don jr being just a shady one by to say that we have these long distance experts determining the mental health of the president of the united states and we can go and there's a lot more to the media goes bonkers so are the media bunkers go ahead kevin. nothing new under the sun in many respects we've seen this before we can go back to any number of instances think about the clinton impeachment and how that became

a national obsession over the o.j. simpson trial what we're seeing here i think is an application and intensification of a tendency that's been part of the media sort of the court of the d.n.a. of the corporate media for many years now ok steve but i do think it is different because they're trying to unseat this president without any due cause and you know you know i'm a lay person will talk to jean in a second she has more expertise in this here but when i see people going on and c.n.n. an embassy in d.c. saying the president of states is insane and should be reviewed reviewed removed from office it's going too far i don't think anybody said bill clinton was insane ok he had a problem with his ip or not his mental health go ahead steve. you know me this to me this is unprecedented it's a continuation of bush derangement syndrome notice it skips democratic presidents they hated bush they said all kinds of disrespectful things against him but not to this extent i mean i've talked to people like you know in the nixon white house who

said they hated nixon but they've never seen anything like this what the media is doing now is more dangerous than anything they have done because they're telling the world you know they're so worried about donald trump's tweets they're telling the world every single day and of course it's not true that our president is mentally incapacitated unable to perform his duties and that we're very very weak at this point and that we have a lot of enemies out there so they think they're playing this little game to get rid of the president and throwing journalism aside but they're actually doing severe horror to our country and i would say to journalism itself and we'll talk about that a little bit later gina let me go to uni west palm beach i mean you're you're a professional mental mental health i mean how do you react to seeing journalists on the on the cable stations talking about the health level of the president of the united states must be quite shocking for you because you are an expert was interesting because i don't think that they would diagnose the president you know

without ever even talking to him in most cases or having a chance to speak with him clinically and so it really is it really does say a lot more honestly about their own obsession with overturning an american election i mean that's what this really comes down to they really just want to make this whole thing go away they're not happy with the election result so they'll try everything they can to negate it and it says a lot more about their mental steadiness if you will than it does his if you look at the fact that he has functioned so amazingly well even despite all of the constant barrage of hate coming at him from the media and from the establishment and even so. fide has that he is a pretty mentally fit guy to be able to withstand all that and to be so productive you know kevin i was looking at some of the exit observe michael wolf's book i don't want to pay for it we can you explain it on online for free. they did more

good there and i looked through some of the excerpts there and you know this is just trash ok i can't believe the lot of the things that he's writing there's no cooperation there the reason why i mention it and you know who cares about the national enquirer ok but again it's polled on to the networks and they and the cable stations confirming their prejudice their blind hatred and it hurts the country it hurts journalism and i think jena just brought up a really good point i mean i've never seen anyone take so much pressure you know day in and day out and he's still going on i mean i find that actually quite remarkable not but i'm not saying i agree with everything he says or tweets i mean exasperated by a lot by a lot of it's like a lot of other people go ahead kevin. couple things i think we have to take a little historical perspective here of partisan press of the eighteen eighteen hundreds. of in ways that are very reminiscent of what

we're seeing today so again i don't think that it helps to suggest that this is somehow an anomaly i think this has historical precedent particularly when you have a very partisan press whether it was back in the days of abraham lincoln or in contemporary america as far as trump taking that pressure quite well i think that is definitely debatable ok it strikes me and i'm not alone on this right it strikes me that there are many instances where he seems. particularly. you know rattled by any sort of criticism and tweets storms are you know frankly embarrassing and so you have the president ited states lashing out at critics in ways that. undermines the legitimacy of the presidency now i'm not a psychologist so i'm not going to i don't know if that's true at all i don't think that's true at all. well again here we need to isolate you you may not like go

ahead jump if you never had we've never had a. i think charles anyway the that's ok look the fact of the matter is this president took the press to task from day one he told it like it is he was the only person who could beat hillary clinton because he was the only person who would stand up there and scold the press and scold us or tractors and call them out for what they are that's what the people who voted for and love about him the fact that he tweets out these things there's nothing wrong with that it doesn't diminish the presidency it's who we is he's not a politician and people have to get used to that they never will and that's too darn bad he's going to i always wish and you're right i absolutely agree with that and that's that i think is part of the problem i mean he is in many ways a tabloid creature yeah but at the same time it's ok lead to ok now we have to be back now we have just a creature. that we have yes that's true now we have symmetry because he's an

anomalous president and i would say we have an anomalous media gina jump in you know all of these mistakes all of these a bad reporting that we've seen and never never a back story or you know explain nation you know the last one with don jr in the e-mails you know the dates were wrong c.n.n. did receive. they were they were made and they were and they held accountable for ok so so if i can just jump in here gene is going to be a journalist this is this is a president who has decreased black unemployment to an all time low this is the president who has black housing more black families have houses than ever before certainly during the obama presidency who was supposed to be the so-called black president because he likes to chop people up and divide of that way this president is the president of all people he said he wants all people to be as rich as him and yet where is the heralding of that in the media he is that these declare january

human trafficking month is slavery not an issue we can all agree on where is that. the media i mean you can see the bias written all over them and for anyone who wants to argue that his tweets are somehow not presidential that's how he communicates his message because he has no other way since the press won't do it and we know that is the counter-puncher and you know what americans laid out here we are so tired of having a president that you know their hand up for us to the rest of the world and put america first this is not only this is not only not diminishing the presidency this is the president going forward steve you want to jump in there before we go to the break they. just they're putting this wolf character out there who admits half my book is inaccurate when people like ed klein and conservative authors can't buy a ticket to any of the shows where they write a book critical of hillary or obama their ignore their mocked as you know jokes and

inaccurate but but this well guy he's all over the place the double standard is just horrific ok kevin you know i think we all saw the segment with steven miller and jake jake tapper on c.n.n. i mean you know we have steven miller he's invited on his program to talk about talk about what it was going on in camp david with the g.o.p. officials the weekend before he was asked to come on and talk policy i watched the tape and jake tapper did not want to talk about policy geno does gina just mention facts ok where is c.n.n. when talking about facts that was an ambush he was very rude jake tapper was very unprofessional go ahead that's the bias that i'm talking about. well again i think it's i think what you're seeing is a lot of corporate channels are chasing this story particularly the russia gate story you know whether or not that's a legitimate investigation not that remains to be seen what we need to keep in mind

is that there are some substantive questions about this presidency. i think in terms of his twitter feed alone i think it would be behoove corporate media to ignore that for a time in fact i'd like to see twitter suspend his account because he's breaking user agreement oh my gosh but let's get back to the let's go back here to me. i don't think we're where all chasing the same ok i thought wow i could have a conversation but we're all chasing the same yes it's scandalous i asked for a conversation right now let's tone it down and to liberate a little bit because i'm worried what one size our economy is the same or even was do you want me to do ricky in life are you directing that to the president the united states or the liberal media ok you're going to censor the hat in your are going to go along the shore and break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the media's stay with art.

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billion dollars that they have appreciated in value is causing a genuine effect in their economy and this is going to be the year twenty eighteen or a big point cryptocurrency how does geo political influence. welcome back to cross like we're all things considered i'm peter letterman you were discussing trump and the media. ok let me go back to west palm beach where it's probably the warmest on this program gina you know i consider myself a midwesterner i grew up in my childhood in colorado so i know that the heartland you know and you know we can talk about all of the intricacies of the campaign who

did a thing who did it did it right who did it wrong how much money was paid but you know it was really the deplorable statement and i think that really brought home to the voters you know who they are the voters in this in the country and where they stand in the eyes of the media because i still contend that the media elected donald trump because they took they have contempt for the public the media has absolute contempt for the public and donald trump stood up for them i mean again i'm not going to carry water for the president as it's a very complicated man and he's that done and said things that i really don't like ok but the fact of the matter is he the way that the media treated him actually helped him and the media continue to help him because of the way they're back their bad treatment of him in the end and in the heartland they feel it every single day go ahead gina. yeah that the trump russia conspiracy theory that they just cannot

seem to let go of it is is helping him every single day that that's still in the news because it is going to come out mark my words i said it right here and i promise you it is going to come out that the only collusion that took place was on the democrats' side we will see this and all of the people who have been beating this drum so relentlessly for so long are going to look like fools that they are and furthermore it's going to expose them the more that they talk about him being insane or anything other than policy as you said earlier the more they talk about how he shouldn't tweet or how he's not mentally fit or any of those things the more it exposes them their lack of mental fitness their collusion and their own problems within their party the bottom line is they don't have policy issues to run on they don't have candidates unless it's oprah and even she has yet to determine as anything viable and so it just it really they have themselves in

a really bad place and they're just spare is what is showing you know kevin you know one one one can go you know call the president the united states deplorable i mean now we know that there are high officials at the f.b.i. calling the president of the united states a drip of food in saying you know what that's all fine that's all your opinion and i think people have a right to say that here but you know in the media hold itself to a higher bar because it's not getting them anywhere they're the people have very little regard and trust in them in the news right now c.n.n. goes from one blunder to another and brushes it off like look here move on we don't take any responsibility so i wonder who has to be held up to a higher bar i mean all these sophisticated people on the coasts are better than donald trump they don't show it on a daily basis go ahead. well again i think we need to put this in a larger perspective. journalist make mistakes oftentimes usually they they they

own up to it c.n.n. c.b.s. n.b.c. made. a mistake last week and they weren't held they weren't held accountable and they weren't holding themselves accountable that's that's a problem i agree one hundred percent on that score. but to suggest that the news media should take an adversarial position to people in positions of power and authority is to give way to authoritarianism and this is not the way we need to conduct what i want you to have out on the press that's not afraid to ask tough questions and to hold people hostage and how are countable ok i don't know that. they have like this i mean are well suited to do that ok i mean disc it's down to and i'll dress is this how i let me hang on here let me see even just this to both of you stephen do you know here i mean what happened to the idea of a loyal opposition because this the media has abandoned that ok asking hard

questions is fine oh for eight years barack obama was never asked one hard question not one he was given a complete free pass atelier you know and i kevin is right i mean this should be adversarial but the they treat him is the enemy ok that is very different than the how they treated like nixon or even bush go ahead steve. but they said nothing to hillary about they about the women for years and years and years that accuse bill clinton and then how hillary help treat them and that never would have been an issue today if hillary had one you're absolutely right look barack obama stood by and watched putin take crimea he stood by and he watched putin go into syria he stood by and watched you know you reigning in one go to putin he stood by and he did nothing. nearly as much as he could have done when it came to cyber security with russia and he said on a hot mike tell vladimir i'll have more leeway after the election yet it's trabant

who is the knight it's trump who is in bed with putin that's because we don't have an adversarial media when it comes to democrats we just plain don't because they have democrats fact they're all democrats are there and we go to jeanne i mean most people working with mueller are democrats too and gave the democratic candidates ok go ahead gina. yes you're absolutely right and that's why that's why this president is such a threat because he has come in and said he's going to clean house and as the elite who have enjoyed their very luxurious cushy lifestyles their access to the white house right the bureaucrats extend beyond the media as part of those in choying that whole cushy lifestyle and so that's when the when the president came along and said he was going to drain the swamp you couldn't say more paralyzing frightening words to the elite establishment in washington d.c. then those and that goes all the way to both coasts to the banking industry to you

know to wear that to the real money in the united states and that's why as you mentioned early in the conversation they want to deal agenda in fact if they could just make the electoral college go away it's of the only votes that count where those in the financial centers on the coasts and just overlook the heartland altogether they would do it in a heartbeat because that would mean they could get away with the corruption that this president is cleaning up. the eternal college is really interesting i did say to our viewers here if they get rid of the electoral college then we have to get rid of california washington and oregon ok and that'll create a little bit of a bounce there or else it'll be it will be democrat forever ok just these little archipelagos on the east and west coast will that dominate the country's politics or you know kevin you know with what does the media have to do to get its credibility back because as we've pointed out on this program so many gaffes. or is it just a business model interest built in right now i mean you write these trashy salacious

stories and you get hits and eyeballs and you know that's your model i mean you know that there's there's nothing wrong with making money for your shareholders but i thought journalism was how to hire cars like informing people go ahead. well a lot to take on a i think we need to start with trying to avoid taking on very difficult complex nuanced questions and do it in such a simple minded fashion and i think that's a large part of what's going on you know. to take just one example the whole notion of trump coming in to drain the swamp if you look at his policies to look at what he's done over the past year clearly this is a textbook example of crony caps you know go ahead jump in go ahead. yeah i. don't even make sense to most people normal deplorable types like me out there when he says that he's eliminated regulations that is the limit needing government that

is quintessentially draining the swamp when he says that he's eliminated whole vast parts of departments making government smaller is bringing it closer to the people that was the intention of the founders of our constitution and the president is restoring that in record time with more than eighty accomplishments in his first year and repealing more than eleven of obama's rule by even act and he is eliminating this one it's systematic and you know you can say that his in his cabinet is comprised of i mean you can label people have you want but the the actions speak a lot louder than the words my friend ok well you know steve i mean you're an actor this is speaking speaking quite loudly in terms of whether words whether it's environmental policy or whether it's. tax policy. any any suggestion that this is nothing more than a handout to the well to do is wishful thinking ok well we're getting out we're

going into the weeds here ok i want to talk about the media so we have two more minutes in iowa steve i mean the problem is is that the media is so damn elitist in the end and they cannot they cannot see outside of their ideological bubble they simply can't comprehend how other people live ok and you know donald trump like him or hate him he traveled the country back and forth back and forth even went up to the blue the blue wall no wonder it fell ok he saw how the american people live this is one of the things that i i admire him for actually getting his hands dirty and actually talking to people in that the democrats don't have a message they don't they're not connected with the people this one man is i don't know about the g.o.p. one minute left go ahead steve. yeah peter the media doesn't care that they're in there elitist bubble and their purpose is to ruin the presidency of donald trump and them in the meantime it's to get the congress back in the hands of the democrats and the first thing they'll do is impeach the president that is there

a whole purpose when you have the s.p.n. anchors calling the president f. and stupid and when you have. two separate occasions saying over and over in the same separate shows the president's a b.s. artist but he says the work and nothing happens and there's many examples of that throughout the media they have a goal they don't care about middle america they don't care about anything their management is on board they're on board room the presidency of donald trump at all costs to twenty seconds go ahead i chose to support this president when i saw him stay after a very early on in the campaign while all the other fifteen republican candidates ducked out after they talked to the alphabet soup media i watched this president stay for two hours and answer questions from every little citizen journalist blogger that's how much he cares about the people that haven't had a voice in america including the low level media. we've totally run out of time many thanks to my guests in new york bloomington and in west palm beach and thanks

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