i believe this is some of the best public expenditure britain makes and i'm very proud to have been a member of a government which stood by its promise to the poorest people in the world and in spite of a time of great austerity and britain refused to balance the books on the backs of the poorest in the world or indeed in britain now this budget it contributes to the safety and stability and the prosperity of some of the poorest countries in the world it stopped conflict from starting once it stopped it then seeks to reconcile people caught up in conflict and it also focuses absolutely on building prosperity by trying to make sure that economic activity increases because the way the poorest people lift themselves out of poverty is by being economically active so it has a real impact on the ground in the poorest parts of the world but it's also in our national interest every penny of this budget helps britain's national interest by making the world a safer and more prosperous place that increases our own trade and our own safety

here on the streets of britain and as you look at the problems that are coming down the runway migration. climate change terrorism protectionism the international development budget spent by britain really tackles all those things at the heart of those problems that's why i strongly support it and why i think it's one of the best public expenditure we in britain support well welcome under mitchell you were the international who during the budget towards this target of zero point seven percent which was achieved in twenty fifteen for the first time but it's not under a fierce time people say the daily mail the newspapers say that look because of the in large budget some of the spending years mr active put your answer to that well it is a large budget and we have to justify every penny and the way it is spent to the british public we have to be clear that every pound of hard earned tax payers money that is spent. international development is actually delivering

a hundred pants on the ground and i think in fact it's one of the more efficient budgets that white or dispensers but we justify because it makes the world a safer and more prosperous place and britain is a big hearted country and we need to support it what we need to justify because it has huge effectiveness on the ground but we're undergoing a major crisis and the national health service of the present moment we're fortunate to be able to look at that creators in the health service say well some of that thirteen billion pounds spent of international aid would be better devoted to the health service. well firstly i think you should do both i think public expenditure should pursue both these objectives i think they're both very important i think the international development budget is a huge investment in the future of the younger generation and there is an intergenerational this year in britain where the older generation of had it rather better than the younger generation have it these days so i think it's an important investment in their future but as i say i think you need to do both but you need to

justify the spending because there's nothing that more irritates people than the suggestion that the international development budget is either being misspent or corruptly taken. both yourself and your success. just in getting. heavily committed seen as being heavily committed to this last international budget but since then some people of the tepid not so much enthusiasm among the setlist indeed but it's just in the form of just christmas the top of the breaking old jam jars to use international aid spending for other budgets what's your view and well the commitment that the coalition government made which this government reaffirmed the general election is not only to the point seven it's also to the way in which that money is spent in other part other departments. who have eligible expenditure under the rules which govern the spending of international development money they

are entitled to spend that money and they should spend it but it has to be spent well and it has to be spent in accordance with those objectives and the treasury would never allow us not to do that and it's one of the reasons why i established a watchdog which looks over the expenditure so the public can have faith that the money is being spent in accordance with those rules and being spent well but many people in the international sector than in the volunteer aegis is this a real danger of other departments effectively reading the international aid piggy bank for example there would be for security purposes things you think that could be prevented in terms of the rules that your stylist i think it's not possible to do that because it's not possible to spend it in in the wrong way because the rules governing the way this expenditure is made are so clear so for example there is money from defeated the development apartment which is spent by the foreign office by the environment department and also by the defense ministry but they have to be

in accordance with the rules and tackling instability and insecurity tackling conflict is absolutely at the heart of international development it's a totally eligible expenditure and indeed conflict is development in reverse in the sense when you apply sleeves you must have seen many projects on the ground can you point to one which you you find most moving or most impressive in terms of the the good it was doing to deprive communities internationally well i suppose it is the humanitarian relief work that britain leads in many different parts of the world seeing there's nothing more moving really than seeing starving children and seeing the british taxpayer through our efforts coming to the aid of children who are starving and i've seen severe malnutrition in parts of africa. in the horn of africa and uganda and i see the way the british taxpayers efforts are making a real difference to the life saving lives of people in desperate poverty and in

desperate conditions so i certainly saw almost every day that i was development secretary the power of good that the british taxpayer was doing through the disposition of this budget and what would. those countries who've achieved the united nations target which was say away by more than a generation ago in the sky the living countries mainly what would your message be to the other rich countries in the world who haven't got anywhere near. what germany for the first time has reached it recently and i think that's great we want to see rich countries putting their money where their mouths have been and standing up and spending this commitment for the benefit of the poorest in our world and it really matters because the world is scarred by these extraordinary inequalities of opportunity and wealth and our generation has the power to do something about that

and we need to make sure that our generation steps up and does precisely that. you offered was a binge of the you trained of conservatism in favor of international development in favor the key public spend the church is losing. the governing party at the person you think you strand of conservatism is are alive and well yes i do but of course there are dangers in that if you dismiss the budget or disparage the budget then it will that will be reflected in the public view on international development and people will will feel that it's not doing the enormous amount of good that it is you know it's important that the conservative party stands up for this expenditure and explains why it matters but you know the tory party is a coalition like the scottish nationalist party and there are different views and i certainly don't feel alone in expressing the views i. within the conservative party on this very important matter finally andrea mitchell do you think your case for sustaining that zero point seven percent of of national income devoted to

international development do you think that would be sustained and win the day if they do because parliament will not allow even if the government wanted to parliament will not allow britain to step back from that commitment and both by that i have every confidence that the government will continue to stand by this is story commitment that is delivering so much around the world to britain's interest as well as to the interest of the people we're helping now and are just just one remaining thing from the well from the new year from coming on a state patient total to the quick gallic for the loving cup you know how to do this of course goes and there are some other less potent substance if you wish and then you pass alone your close friends and only of course friends thank you very much indeed i have a scottish heritage so i'm familiar with it and i shal use it with pride and pleasure and eventual thank you very much for stating your case thank you coming up

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a button and get rid of trade this is far too important to be farmers to political backlash money is a very fine people think and i think it will be very quick before people found ways around it because as i say it may be damaging it might cut it back but the idea that you could do anything nearly anything with this album is very unlikely. prescribe medication is widespread on the us market and a frequent cause of death at that point in my life i just felt like everything was ashes my family was literally coming unglued i had actually planned. to commit some site what or who has made antidepressants so commonly used we were doing what the doctors told us to do we were being responsible and what the real side effects.

was is generally all to what i did was done on a cocktail of legal drugs. just because something's. please doesn't mean it's saying. welcome back the treatment of the u.k.'s international targets since twenty fifteen has not been controversial although no one strain has a legal commitment that has been a powerful newspaper led campaign to both the strict and better target the thirteen billion pounds plus budget does because but examining some of these arguments his commitment to foreign need has been a subject of considerable debate in the house of commons what does it say about the priorities of a government when it allows so many operations to be cancelled over the next few weeks at the same time as more and more money every year into overseas aid can i say to the minister to the government through the minister that people are now

angry about this in the country where there's so much money billions of pounds of overseas aid when it is so clearly needed by both really people at home in the united kingdom will the government get a grip of this is massively out of touch with public opinion if it doesn't. take government's point seven percent commitment a budget to foreign aid has been strained in law since the two thousand and ten coalition government of late however that money has been spread across a number of departments i spoke to head of advocacy all spun to find out the impact of that on the work they do keep him interested in finding aspects some of the current work in the areas of critique across the world what are your latest project i mean sadly it sort of breaks down as really an ever increasing list of humanitarian crises around around the world where one of the only major international n.g.o.s actually working inside yemen where you currently have

sixteen million people that's greater than the population of london and new york combined without access to clean and safe drinking water and we're trying to work with in there to deal with the conditions that we have. and of course as is always the case women and children are to support me affected by and things happening internationally and of course natural disasters do you have any projects on specifically to help women find their feet again absolutely we do anyway you have to take gender and the needs of women and girls into account on all levels so take something like a refugee camp without proper feedback mechanisms that ask women how it works for them you don't find out things like the fact that inadequate lighting around shower blocks mean that they will go without going to the bathroom for fear of being attacked going to visit the toilet in the night without understanding the fears about leaving the camps for instance to find so i would in places in africa

you realize that women are sort of going without finding food because they're too scared about leaving the camps and being and being raped by belligerence in the conflict so gender has a huge place in humanitarian programming but absolutely also in the kind of long term work we do with communities and so much of our work with communities is about working with women and i think getting that point across is really important because there are many invaded for use and impressions on international aid will come to that in a second in the government's commitment but also public perceptions around it because obviously a lot of your fund raising comes from from private entities from individuals etc to understand that this is not just about helping people in these difficult situations but it's by helping them build both a future and both upon their skills and i think as much as can be done to highlight that we see it must help you in terms of getting people to donate to some of your causes and the british people are through and through tremendously generous i've done fundraising in the london underground just running around in victoria for so

many crises and people would be pins that come together and we see that in comic relief and we see that in responses to disasters but of course when the media camera goes away these these pop. don't disappear and let's come on to forty's and international development we know of the government's commitments and schoolish government point seven percent however there's been much commentary about how that is now is being spent the entire fiscal studies said last year that this concern about an ability they impact on eradicating hopefully global poverty if that to be spread across departments and the national audit office and also suggested that this the need to be much more in-depth analysis of how the money is actually being spent four in departments with death said i wonder what your view was in all of this and how it's impacting on if it's not going to gestate is not a challenge channelings to that how does an impact on the work that you can do part

of this shows just how observed scrutinized and regulated aig money is that some of the most scrutinized money that the government spends because of the need to prove to the taxpayers and to others that that it's value for money so you know transparency like this and questions like this is all also always a good thing it's also west saying that the vast majority of british aid doesn't missing things you know there are eleven million children around the world that have an education thanks to british aid it's helping in yemen it's helping in bangladesh as i said it's helping in in uganda. but i do think that it's important to get past the question of how much aid we spend to sort of new point set and we've got across party consensus on that and that's great and should be here to stay and start focusing on on how all the landscape and some tory backbenchers are challenging that point seven percent it is still a a broad cross-product issue consensus yet not without its challenges but we hope that to stay with a question of how it's spent is importance. and oxfam would observe the same thing

that some of these reports are saying this it is undoubtedly the part with the most experience and the most infrastructure in place to spend money in the way that leads to poor perty reduction which is what it's all other government but departments have a huge and important role to play in development often it's not about spending a money it's doing things like bringing peace to yemen which is the ultimate thing that people need rather than aid money it's doing things like tackling climate change which one are major drivers of poverty it's conducting research other government departments have a huge role to play that could well involve bonding aid money but what we think is that until the white structures transparency oversight is in place we shouldn't see a lot more money spent by other government departments of the ndis it they're the experts and they're where the majority of spend i think should remain and sing the bush johnson has spoken of more uses where it's sensible spending and of this money

across departments but it begs the question you raise a point yourself we spend money on international development and foreign aid but if any other reined arming. the saudis in terms of what's happening in the yemen you're almost canceling out a lot of your good work yes exactly spending our money as vital as it is is not the be all and end all of this government's global responsibility we have a responsibility as you say we believe to hold arms sales to southie arabia we have response busy to push harder for peace in yemen we have a responsibility to play by in. national global rules and to uphold them that also means the world that our companies use when they're considering their tax base for instance because the use of tax havens is is undermining the revenue that could be used to fight poverty around the world and of course government is driven also by public opinion and public opinion it can be framed by what we read in the prey and and it is certainly been of concern to see over the past sort of couple of years

certainly quite a high level headlines which are a very negative impact on people's perception of international aid for need to seen as a cinderella of politics how can we change perceptions around that i think it's incumbent on organizations like oxfam actually to inspire people more about what age can do there are not risks to be taken in delivering age your you're making investments if you like in some of the most risky areas of the world i think the central political question that there's been around about aid how much do we spend and we can start to have a conversation like we do on all other areas of government policy which is well what's the best way to do this how can we innovate how can we get better at doing it and how can we make sure that the whole government has a complementary approach to to ending poverty what would your message be to pay more and internationally that was extreme in terms of what you'd like our department to be doing moving forward so we wrote to penny just pretty soon after

she was elected and put yemen actually top of our radar and we were thrilled to see her make a trip to the degree to which is the port which people used to get into yemen and has cells have some tough conversations i think with saudi officials and be influential in helping to keep the main port of yemen open as a woman in cabinet herself i think it makes absolute sense to do as she is doing to continue focusing on the role of women and girls and the central role of investing in them. not just. women's economic empowerment which is a lot of people are talking about of the moment but ensuring whether it's in economic life or not that women have voice and have a sense of control over their lives and so power in their communities and he said if you spend money on women she will a women will look to save not spend all of it once and make sure it's spread around a greater group of people it's

a space interesting statistics about the importance of more women in imparting women and you'll be aware of course of that the scottish government's work with refugees are very proud in scotland to have taken in more refugees pedal population than the native in eighty nine but also the work of our first minister nicolas storage and empowering syrian women to deal with the crisis which is facing to live and to rebuild city and i am sure you believe like haiti that women hold the key to today to the future empower those women unable they will help we help rebuild those countries exactly and. understanding the needs of women often turns out to be the key to understanding what the right thing to do in any situation creates the needs of women often are about also the needs of families the needs of communities the needs the needs of people who are going to build back a sort of a staple life whether it comes to refugee policy where at the moment we're focused on the need for family reunion in the u.k. there are too many people here who have reached suppose it's safety here in the

u.k. but on able to build a life here because that's a nice you know their adult children even if that's only a nineteen year old girl alone in europe. they're denied other family members that they they care for so yet the needs of women families communities to be resilience to help each other i think that. is an inspiring message to think about development in twenty eighteen it is kids to have a party thank you very much ideally thank you bonnie. but watching from oxford i thought one of her key points was when she said look internationally budget in this all is not enough it has to be consistent across the range of government policies because an example of we have policies might come into conflict with a point well made by keep to cli and misspeak where information has been released that in the years since the breaks vote they've been three billion pounds worth of arms export licenses issued by the u.k. government one point one billion of those inhalation to saudi arabia and so it does

become a vicious circle and should be questioned not asked he points from from kate was the role of women targeting the women's role and development as such so important well as couple of aspects to that there's a need to ease in the aftermath of of attacks and helping people you know helping women rebuild their homes but beyond that it comes to rebuilding their countries and giving women the scholars it might not necessarily have to be able to do that is a hugely empowering thing and something oxfam and many other agencies are committed to doing people to see empowerment and you can rebuild your nations and whether this diversion of siphoning off money out of the international aid budget of departments or. a bigger danger thoughts from see that is that's one of the greatest concerns for aid agencies because the defense budget is greatly scrutinised and you know whether the money's being spent it's all channels to address that but bush wants the foreign secretary suggest that there are more i use his words sensible ways of spending that money that will go across different

departments and i started to happen that then can impact on the effect that the different defeat department can have on ensuring that they are contributing their eye to the eradication of global poverty because being spread across a number of places and despite the attack some quite ferocious at the present moment on the concept of having zero point seven percent the mark targets been around longer than i've been in politics so must be slower. satisfaction among the international aid agencies that the target is finally been stuck to and hopefully adhere to absolutely secure not my money's been hugely important to our commitment to international aid it's an shined in the war not of a good thing and surely not protected any showing that it's not infected by the often front page headlines we see where it's questioned why and there were even spending this amount of money in the first place must mean the top of our agenda i think you mean people across the whole of the nice kingdom and

a pride of our commitment to helping people and cause conflict zones people their life has been a thank you very much now thirteen billion pounds is a fear of cash and times of a started over this not even three quarters of one percent of the national income of the u.k. joining the select club countries to make this sort of level of contribution was a proud boast of a common government and i'm certain when asked to detail the achievements of his time in office the former prime minister turns to this subject rather than the bricks are left on and up some m.p.'s backed by much of the press while half in power for better wastage of resources but most people see the essential point about contributing something to those in this world who have nothing and what immediate danger this is a diversion of international development funding into other budgets for example the line between international security spending and genuine development spending can be a very narrow one indeed but i just hope that the light is drawn firmly to do otherwise

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